- You're welcome! It would be controlled using either the gate or compressor controls, depending on whether you're plugged into the gate or compressor sidechain connector.
Thanks, man! It would be certainly interesting to look a video about sidechaining. Especially in this device.By the way, how would't'be operated? through the gate rotary knob?
- Yes, only one channel was demonstrated here. If running stereo you would of course run both left and right through separate channels of the ACP88. Main inserts are just like the channel inserts, except the entire mix would be processed instead of just one channel.
- It depends, but in a simple PA system you connect the output of the mixer to the power amps, and then connect the power amps to the speakers using speaker cable (not mic cable!)
+Slash713 A feedback destroyer is connected in the same way as a compressor: channel insert if you want to use it on only one channel, main mix insert to use it across an entire mix.
Good day Sir, I just want to ask in your video, is it possible that the two channel of power amplifier will function even if only one input of the power amplifier you use? Thank you.
Quick question, instead of the "Main Out" will it be the same if I used the "Main Insert" with insert patch cord? If so, do I have to run two separate patch cords to the L/R Main Insert? Thanks for your informative videos. God Bless!
Yes you can insert on the mains as well as on the individual channels. You will need two insert cables, one for the left and one for the right main insert points.
Darn, I can't find a good schematic anywhere on what to plug into where to do side chain ducking. If you know and it isn't too much trouble to explain I would greatly appreciate it.
Sure - basically what you're doing is controlling the compressor on the music channel using the signal from the vocal mic channel. So you set up the compressor on the music channel as normal. Then you run a cable from an output on the vocal mic channel (use a direct out or similar) to the compressor sidechain input on the music channel compressor. Then you adjust the compressor controls to give you the appropriate amount of ducking when the vocalist speaks. Does that help?
Hmmm, so I have an 8 channel mixer with inserts that I want to connect to the compressor. I'm trying to get all 8 channels to listen to each other so they can duck frequencies and create a breathing type effect. Am I still going to use the channel inserts for this? If so, what cables do I connect to the "compression side chain" input? It's rough, I'm a visual learner and can't find a tutorial on this anywhere. Thanks for taking the time out to try and help.
You connect the channels to the compressor in the normal way, using the insert points. In terms of getting the channels to 'listen to each other' you'll need to work out how to do that yourself ;) Decide what you want your controlling signal to be and work from there. Good luck!
For applying compression or other signal processing to the main outputs or other buses, why not just send and return signals on the insert jacks like those placed adjacent to the output jacks on the CFX desk in your video? Doesn’t inserting a signal processor across a bus achieve the same result as connecting it in line between the mixer’s outputs and the inputs of the amplifiers/speaker processor?
Yes that will also work fine. It achieves the same result with the difference being that it places the compression pre rather than post fader. Also, not everyone today owns insert cables - in fact many younger sound engineers don't even know what they are!
Hi Bruno. Many thanks for your very wonderful and informative videos. I have used them a lot from a complete novice to run my church PA system. God continue to favour you in all ways and all your endeavours! Thanks for continuing to impart that knowledge freely to many! I had to 2 questions on the current video. a) ACP88 to AMP connection: you've only run one cable from mixer to input 1 of the AMP. Don't you also need to run to input 2 of the AMP? b) With the addition of the AMP connection, do the rest of the connections on the ACP88 remain (are they) from the mixer e.g. insert from 8? And what's the implication when you send the overall mix to the AMP as opposed to the previous setup - were ACP88 connections from the mixer, I noticed most of the ACP88 channel were used?
Hello Simon thanks for getting in touch! 1) Yes you would connect a second channel of the ACP88 for a stereo connection - I only showed one channel for demonstration purposes. 2) When you connect the compressor between the mixer and amp you are compressing the entire mix rather than individual channels - this gives you less control but is simpler to implement and still gives much better results than no compressor. Let me know if you have any other questions :)
Thanks Bruno for your very quick response. The following further questions please. Do you still retain the remaining 6 connections from mixer to ACP88? If you do, what does it aim to achieve in terms of overall compression of the mix? In your example I still see the connections remain.
You're welcome! It's up to you - having separate compression for both the individual channels as well as the mix as a whole will give the most options. So for example you could run high ratio, high threshold compression on the drum channels but a low ratio, low threshold compression on the mix as a whole, similar to what a mastering engineer might do on a mix. Experimentation is the name of the game here :)
so i have the tascam 16x08 and hopefully about to buy the presonus acp88, could i use the line outs of the interface into each input of the acp88 and then go out of the acp88 into the behringer fbq1502 using TRS cables?
Yes you could but why would you want to as there is already compression available in your DAW. Are you using the Tascam purely as a mic preamp for live sound?
+GLB Productions thanks for replying! yes im using it to record my drum set and a vocal mic. im using it so i can get the best sound before i hit record.
Hello Bruno. I couldn't find a video on headphone ampliiers on your channel. I heard these amps can be an affordable way for band monitoring system. Could you please explain how this can be done, and whether it applies for a band including acoustic drums. Look forward to hearing from you.
Yes it can be done but typically you really need a professional to set something like this up and operate it. Monitoring on headphones requires a stereo feed for EACH musician/singer and also requires much more processing power than simple wedge monitors. So it's not really a simple or affordable solution if it's going to be effective.
+philo fu You're welcome, thanks for watching. The only way to achieve a serial connection on a powered mixer is to use the main insert points, also known as the 'preamp out' and 'power amp in' jacks - these allow you to place a device between the mixer section and the power amplifier section using standard guitar cables. Does your powered mixer have these connection points?
+philo fu That's not a powered mixer my friend - a powered mixer is one which contains one or more power amplifiers for driving speakers directly. Something like the Mackie PPM1012 would be a powered mixer :) With the 1642 there are many ways to connect - you can use the channel inserts, the main mix inserts, or connect the compressor inline between the mixer and power amplifier. Does this make things clear?
Hi Bruno. Merry Christmas.I am a bit confused about the amp Serial Connection. Does this set-up eliminate the XLR connectors in your video going to the amplifier? I am not sure I am following you. I think I am missing a piece of the puzzle. Perhaps I need to see another video that "reasons" this set-up as it pertains to the amp. Can you link me to that video if it exist. I find the mic channel set-up exciting as you explained it. I love learning from you.
+Dennis Neuhaus Hello Dennis, Merry Christmas to you too! In this particular video I only demonstrated the use of unbalanced connections between the compressor and the power amplifier. However the ACP 88 features inputs and outputs that can be balanced OR unbalanced depending on what connectors are used. If you wanted a balanced connection between the ACP88 and the amplifier, you would simply use TRS to XLR male cables, or TRS to TRS cables. Does this make sense?
Well. It seems to me strange to insert only one output line into the compressor. Why haven't you taken L+К and put into separate channels? - you could ruturn them into a mixer channel after that, having the "Parallel compression" -dry/wet- ability of mixing. And 1 more question - what about "Maiin inserts" - is it for a kind of dynamic gear, or simply another measuring tool or instrument?
Sure - the easiest way would be to connect it inline between your signal source and the audio interface for use when tracking, or inline between your interface and 2-track recorder for use during mixdown. It depends a lot on your specific interface and whether you use a mixer as part of your recording setup.
Thanks for the info by looking at the video the in series part you only sending channel five to the amplifier not the whole apc unit all 8 channels correct
Sir, what is the best option to connect the compressor? C an I connect at the same time the 2 channl at the same time how to do? please help. Many thanks Sir.
- I'm afraid I will need more specific information before I can help you - if you could send me a link to each of the components you would like to connect that would be best.
Hi! am called kasule from Uganda, i have been in sound almost 15 years but never been in school or training, every thing you explain i have come across them or i do them but i feel like i want to be a professional can i be helped, thanks
Definitely - the important thing is to begin working somewhere and gain professional experience. This will also allow you to make contacts and get a feel for whether the job is for you. Some sound companies will also send you for training if they feel you are a good worker and willing to learn more. All the best!
Hi Bruno, thankyou sooo much for your presentations, they have been enormously helpful in setting our band up for live sound.😁👌
You're welcome Brian, very glad to hear that the videos have been helpful 😄 All the best with your music!
hi Bruno, can you make a video about sidechain compresstion? I can't make it work right... Thanks...
- You're welcome! It would be controlled using either the gate or compressor controls, depending on whether you're plugged into the gate or compressor sidechain connector.
- Anytime, always happy to help if I can!
Thanks, man! It would be certainly interesting to look a video about sidechaining. Especially in this device.By the way, how would't'be operated? through the gate rotary knob?
- Yes, only one channel was demonstrated here. If running stereo you would of course run both left and right through separate channels of the ACP88. Main inserts are just like the channel inserts, except the entire mix would be processed instead of just one channel.
- Probably both - use the compressor to even things out a bit, and the limiter as a safety net to catch any really loud spikes like dropped mics.
Much needed help! Thanks alot for your knowledgable help!
- It depends, but in a simple PA system you connect the output of the mixer to the power amps, and then connect the power amps to the speakers using speaker cable (not mic cable!)
Just love your presentations❤️👍🏾
Thanks for watching!
You're detailed and clever! thanks for your video.
+Eliezer Mezano You're welcome, thanks for watching :)
Bruno,
Thanks for another great tutorial! Can you show us how to connect a compressor and Feedback Destroyer to a mixer?
+Slash713 A feedback destroyer is connected in the same way as a compressor: channel insert if you want to use it on only one channel, main mix insert to use it across an entire mix.
Good day Sir, I just want to ask in your video, is it possible that the two channel of power amplifier will function even if only one input of the power amplifier you use? Thank you.
Hello Herbert, this video will answer your question: ruclips.net/video/HKpV30pjvIo/видео.html
Thanks a lot brother... for u r accurate explanation on this connection...... and may god bless u for further videos..... thnk u soo much.... :-)
+A john You're welcome, God Bless you too :)
Thanks I thought there was more to it lol! Where do you connect the amps to?
Quick question, instead of the "Main Out" will it be the same if I used the "Main Insert" with insert patch cord? If so, do I have to run two separate patch cords to the L/R Main Insert? Thanks for your informative videos. God Bless!
Yes you can insert on the mains as well as on the individual channels. You will need two insert cables, one for the left and one for the right main insert points.
))) Did you insert the Main into the compressor in the purpose to use it as a limiter, or as a dynamic gear tool?
thanks for the informative videos! Any chance you are going to make a sidechain tutorial?
Probably not as I personally don't use the technique much. Thanks for watching!
Darn, I can't find a good schematic anywhere on what to plug into where to do side chain ducking. If you know and it isn't too much trouble to explain I would greatly appreciate it.
Sure - basically what you're doing is controlling the compressor on the music channel using the signal from the vocal mic channel. So you set up the compressor on the music channel as normal. Then you run a cable from an output on the vocal mic channel (use a direct out or similar) to the compressor sidechain input on the music channel compressor. Then you adjust the compressor controls to give you the appropriate amount of ducking when the vocalist speaks. Does that help?
Hmmm, so I have an 8 channel mixer with inserts that I want to connect to the compressor. I'm trying to get all 8 channels to listen to each other so they can duck frequencies and create a breathing type effect. Am I still going to use the channel inserts for this? If so, what cables do I connect to the "compression side chain" input? It's rough, I'm a visual learner and can't find a tutorial on this anywhere. Thanks for taking the time out to try and help.
You connect the channels to the compressor in the normal way, using the insert points. In terms of getting the channels to 'listen to each other' you'll need to work out how to do that yourself ;) Decide what you want your controlling signal to be and work from there. Good luck!
Hello very good thank you 😊
You're most welcome.
For applying compression or other signal processing to the main outputs or other buses, why not just send and return signals on the insert jacks like those placed adjacent to the output jacks on the CFX desk in your video? Doesn’t inserting a signal processor across a bus achieve the same result as connecting it in line between the mixer’s outputs and the inputs of the amplifiers/speaker processor?
Yes that will also work fine. It achieves the same result with the difference being that it places the compression pre rather than post fader. Also, not everyone today owns insert cables - in fact many younger sound engineers don't even know what they are!
hey can you make a video full set up of audio processor and mixers?
- The purpose of a power amp is to drive loudspeakers, that's about it :)
Can you do a video explaining the purpose for power amp? Thanks
Hi Bruno. Many thanks for your very wonderful and informative videos. I have used them a lot from a complete novice to run my church PA system. God continue to favour you in all ways and all your endeavours! Thanks for continuing to impart that knowledge freely to many! I had to 2 questions on the current video. a) ACP88 to AMP connection: you've only run one cable from mixer to input 1 of the AMP. Don't you also need to run to input 2 of the AMP? b) With the addition of the AMP connection, do the rest of the connections on the ACP88 remain (are they) from the mixer e.g. insert from 8? And what's the implication when you send the overall mix to the AMP as opposed to the previous setup - were ACP88 connections from the mixer, I noticed most of the ACP88 channel were used?
Hello Simon thanks for getting in touch!
1) Yes you would connect a second channel of the ACP88 for a stereo connection - I only showed one channel for demonstration purposes.
2) When you connect the compressor between the mixer and amp you are compressing the entire mix rather than individual channels - this gives you less control but is simpler to implement and still gives much better results than no compressor.
Let me know if you have any other questions :)
Thanks Bruno for your very quick response. The following further questions please. Do you still retain the remaining 6 connections from mixer to ACP88? If you do, what does it aim to achieve in terms of overall compression of the mix? In your example I still see the connections remain.
You're welcome! It's up to you - having separate compression for both the individual channels as well as the mix as a whole will give the most options. So for example you could run high ratio, high threshold compression on the drum channels but a low ratio, low threshold compression on the mix as a whole, similar to what a mastering engineer might do on a mix. Experimentation is the name of the game here :)
Excellent Bruno, thanks once again very much, it's clarified the issue!
Is there a video on how to side chain duck the bass drum connection?
Not at this time.
u da best !!!!!!!
Thanks Fatz!
Sir what mixer I will be use in live performances?
so i have the tascam 16x08 and hopefully about to buy the presonus acp88, could i use the line outs of the interface into each input of the acp88 and then go out of the acp88 into the behringer fbq1502 using TRS cables?
Yes you could but why would you want to as there is already compression available in your DAW. Are you using the Tascam purely as a mic preamp for live sound?
+GLB Productions thanks for replying! yes im using it to record my drum set and a vocal mic. im using it so i can get the best sound before i hit record.
Hello Bruno. I couldn't find a video on headphone ampliiers on your channel. I heard these amps can be an affordable way for band monitoring system. Could you please explain how this can be done, and whether it applies for a band including acoustic drums.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Yes it can be done but typically you really need a professional to set something like this up and operate it. Monitoring on headphones requires a stereo feed for EACH musician/singer and also requires much more processing power than simple wedge monitors. So it's not really a simple or affordable solution if it's going to be effective.
Thank you so much for the detailed lesson.
However, how to connect a serial connection to an already on board powered mixer?
Thanks
+philo fu You're welcome, thanks for watching. The only way to achieve a serial connection on a powered mixer is to use the main insert points, also known as the 'preamp out' and 'power amp in' jacks - these allow you to place a device between the mixer section and the power amplifier section using standard guitar cables. Does your powered mixer have these connection points?
Understood.
Negative, it does not have preamp out/power amp in' jacks.
+philo fu What make and model is your powered mixer please? I'll take a look there may be a workaround.
Mackie 1642-VLZ3, sir.
+philo fu That's not a powered mixer my friend - a powered mixer is one which contains one or more power amplifiers for driving speakers directly. Something like the Mackie PPM1012 would be a powered mixer :)
With the 1642 there are many ways to connect - you can use the channel inserts, the main mix inserts, or connect the compressor inline between the mixer and power amplifier. Does this make things clear?
Hi Bruno. Merry Christmas.I am a bit confused about the amp Serial Connection. Does this set-up eliminate the XLR connectors in your video going to the amplifier? I am not sure I am following you. I think I am missing a piece of the puzzle. Perhaps I need to see another video that "reasons" this set-up as it pertains to the amp. Can you link me to that video if it exist.
I find the mic channel set-up exciting as you explained it. I love learning from you.
+Dennis Neuhaus Hello Dennis, Merry Christmas to you too! In this particular video I only demonstrated the use of unbalanced connections between the compressor and the power amplifier. However the ACP 88 features inputs and outputs that can be balanced OR unbalanced depending on what connectors are used. If you wanted a balanced connection between the ACP88 and the amplifier, you would simply use TRS to XLR male cables, or TRS to TRS cables. Does this make sense?
Got it. Thanks Bruno.
Dennis Neuhaus You're welcome Dennis, happy new year and blessings for 2016!
Well. It seems to me strange to insert only one output line into the compressor. Why haven't you taken L+К and put into separate channels? - you could ruturn them into a mixer channel after that, having the "Parallel compression" -dry/wet- ability of mixing. And 1 more question - what about "Maiin inserts" - is it for a kind of dynamic gear, or simply another measuring tool or instrument?
hey bruno, how would you connect this to an audio interface? or can you even use it with one?
Sure - the easiest way would be to connect it inline between your signal source and the audio interface for use when tracking, or inline between your interface and 2-track recorder for use during mixdown. It depends a lot on your specific interface and whether you use a mixer as part of your recording setup.
Thanks for the info by looking at the video the in series part you only sending channel five to the amplifier not the whole apc unit all 8 channels correct
That's right.
mine has a loud fan but it still works, will the fan end up being a problem? thanks
Very unlikely but if it does just get it replaced. Fans will always be available :)
GLB Productions thanks
Sir, what is the best option to connect the compressor? C an I connect at the same time the 2 channl at the same time how to do? please help. Many thanks Sir.
+Doy Caralos Connecting to the insert points gives you the most control. No, you can only connect to one channel at a time using this method.
What about plugging it into an interface?
You would need to connect it between your source and the input of the interface.
Hello how can I connect audio strip aphex channel with PCI RME? ITS POSSIBLE
- I'm afraid I will need more specific information before I can help you - if you could send me a link to each of the components you would like to connect that would be best.
Hi! am called kasule from Uganda, i have been in sound almost 15 years but never been in school or training, every thing you explain i have come across them or i do them but i feel like i want to be a professional can i be helped, thanks
Definitely - the important thing is to begin working somewhere and gain professional experience. This will also allow you to make contacts and get a feel for whether the job is for you. Some sound companies will also send you for training if they feel you are a good worker and willing to learn more. All the best!
how to connect preamplifier to mixer
You can use either the mic or line input on the mixer, depending on the output level of the preamp.
Sir what mixer I will be use in live performances?