Thanks for the tests, but what about range. When I think bigger antenna I don't think "faster" but "further" or "stronger" (stronger=can go through walls better). I do like the smaller form factor especially for the wife-approval-factor.
With Wi-Fi generally it's not the access points range that matters. It's the endpoint. It doesn't matter how far the wap can broadcast if the endpoint can't talk back. You will find even the smallest wireless access point has a much larger antenna and much more powerful radio than any endpoint.
@@mgzukows Best test is to do it in pairs. Get two of every unit and put one unit in client mode and the other in AP mode and measure their speed at various distances from each other.
I just installed 4 of these, with possibly 2 more going up, for my church, and the biggest reason I chose this over V1 was the size, they look amazing in place and the performance is great, and they can fit in tight spaces, loving them so far. They have quite the beefy range.
Almost the same to a little better performance, for this new small form factor, is a plus. But these numbers need to consider the range too ! I suggest a new video for a range reviews.
Strangely, I actually use these TP-Link APs instead of UniFi APs because they are much easier to mount and dismount with the former than the later. I think the UniFi ones are meant to be harder to be stolen off their mounts. However, if these are used in the homes, theft is not an issue, so the TP-Link ones are preferred.
Totally agree. That v1 is crazy huge. Just ordered a v2 and look forward to a less conspicuous WAP. v1 is still in the 30 day return window so back it goes!
I'd like to see an updated review of Omada with the complete controller, router, switch, and AP all set up and how it compares to UniFi, especially for SOHO/SMB environments. I'd also like to hear your opinions on if TP-Link is to be trusted even if they are a Chinese based company or are the privacy and security concerns like with Huawei and others. I haven't heard anything and don't expect there to be concerns with TP-Link, but I'd like to hear opinions of others.
ruclips.net/video/tjtxDcKCZ18/видео.html is a good comparison ruclips.net/video/UBtPme0RQ2U/видео.html is Crosstalk doing a review of Omada from 4 months ago
Awesome. Glad to know about the v2. I have a v1 in my home. Its as big as a clock on the wall. Really like the v2 size. It would fit very nicely and look a bit like a fire alarm. Omada gear is fantastic. Ive had it running for over a year and have POE switches running various APs and the firewall/router. Geat stuff. Very reliable.
Sorry if i didnt get it, but what was the positioning of the APs and devices for the test? Was it a realistic scenario with 5 or 6m and a wall between them?
There’s a way to test the raw speed form device to AP using iperf2. If you ssh directly into the AP, you can run iperf2 server and then run iperf on your device to test your raw wireless speed without network switches and other stuff influencing the test Of note, I don’t think you can ssh directly into the AP while it’s adopted into a Omada controller though
While a bit unrelated, can the Ubiquiti airMAX and other similar PtMP devices be used as a more traditional access point? Mainly wondering for locations such as homes on larger plots of land such as farms. Usually WiFi router with a decent radio placed by a window facing the field (1 watt transmit power and 4+ dBi antennas, will usually get around 600ft line of sight for basic clients such as smartphones. While not the main use case, can the airMax products work to support basic clients from a longer distance, since a high gain antenna can also receive weaker signals from a longer distance it would be interesting if those could be used for a niche use case like that
I bought a v2 too, and it's acting weirdly slow. Connecting my pixel 7 pro and steam deck LCD to my desktop and running iperf3, I'm only getting 200Mbit/s. Any ideas why? I'm only like 10 feet from the WAP and both mobile devices are connected via 5Ghz. The desktop is wired in through ethernet and has no problems on the gigabit LAN.
TPlink is my go-to product because of ease of install and low cost controller. But, why didn’t you compare speed through one and two walls. Speed at a distance is paramount. Customers don’t care about speed at 3 ft through air, but rather what is speed at the room down the hall. Next, TPlink needs to reduce size of the outdoor WiFi 6 AP, especially chunky Ethernet port.
@@matthewbeardsley7004 We have over 50 locations and I want to send any tech to any location. Also, I don't want to fund a dedicated laptop to a location when a low cost $85 Omada controller is sufficient. Sorry, don't have a clue how to implement free tier VPS.
Thanks for the tests! Weird.. i have the eap653(US). The one with only 22db and I’m getting between 720-730 down and 690-700 up with 5 tests. iPhone 13 Pro Max and 2019 Intel MBP, 4m or 10ft from the disk. I thought those more expensive 610s were faster. No doubt the range is definitely lacking at 22db. But for a small condo unit, i think i picked the right AP. These are much cheaper than the 610s.
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They should better advertise the half power aspect of the 653. I've returned mine because of the smaller range.
Line of sight signal isn’t really lacking. But the transmit power is. I’m not sure if they have the the 25db EU version, which should work. Although you are right. i found out that the 653s US version only has 22db after purchase because the power rating wasn’t obvious.
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@@coralchaser The EU version also has higher power, but only on the 5GHz band 3, whatever that is.
There is a new AP cbw150ax from Cisco. This has no subscription and can be setup standalone. There is also a mesh node that is launched with it. Do. you think you can get one to test ? At around 125$ I think this one competes directly with the Unifi 6 AP for SOHO.
Hi there, I’m keen on this TP Link 610V2 - I’m not running any Omada hardware. I have a POE TP- Link unmanaged switch. Can I still use this AP on my network?
Radiation to speeds.... Cancer to a go and we're up and running. 😂😀 Thanks for the video Chris. I always feel like I am shaving years off my life messing with these access points.
I'd love to see a comparison of power consumption between Unifi and TP-Link systems.
Omada EAP245 vs Unifi AC pro is the same. Between 3.5 and 4.1 watt.EAP610 v1 wifi 6 +- 4.7 watt
I just received an EAP620 HD v3 earlier today. I didn't expect it to be small too and I'm quite impressed!
Thanks for the tests, but what about range. When I think bigger antenna I don't think "faster" but "further" or "stronger" (stronger=can go through walls better). I do like the smaller form factor especially for the wife-approval-factor.
Exactly!
He's not going to reply because he didn't test for that sadly. That is half the battle, knowing performance over distance. Maybe in the future?
With Wi-Fi generally it's not the access points range that matters. It's the endpoint. It doesn't matter how far the wap can broadcast if the endpoint can't talk back.
You will find even the smallest wireless access point has a much larger antenna and much more powerful radio than any endpoint.
@@mgzukows Best test is to do it in pairs. Get two of every unit and put one unit in client mode and the other in AP mode and measure their speed at various distances from each other.
Range, range, range. Very important!!!
Many thanks for the update. For years, we were local agents for D-Link but it seems TP Link have now grabbed their crown.
Love DLink unmanaged switches but they seem to be left behind. Sad.
I just installed 4 of these, with possibly 2 more going up, for my church, and the biggest reason I chose this over V1 was the size, they look amazing in place and the performance is great, and they can fit in tight spaces, loving them so far. They have quite the beefy range.
Almost the same to a little better performance, for this new small form factor, is a plus.
But these numbers need to consider the range too ! I suggest a new video for a range reviews.
Strangely, I actually use these TP-Link APs instead of UniFi APs because they are much easier to mount and dismount with the former than the later. I think the UniFi ones are meant to be harder to be stolen off their mounts. However, if these are used in the homes, theft is not an issue, so the TP-Link ones are preferred.
The TP-Link WAP sizes were ridiculous. I had looked at Omada to replace my UniFi WAP's but the size was really off putting.
Totally agree. That v1 is crazy huge. Just ordered a v2 and look forward to a less conspicuous WAP. v1 is still in the 30 day return window so back it goes!
I'd like to see an updated review of Omada with the complete controller, router, switch, and AP all set up and how it compares to UniFi, especially for SOHO/SMB environments. I'd also like to hear your opinions on if TP-Link is to be trusted even if they are a Chinese based company or are the privacy and security concerns like with Huawei and others. I haven't heard anything and don't expect there to be concerns with TP-Link, but I'd like to hear opinions of others.
ruclips.net/video/tjtxDcKCZ18/видео.html is a good comparison
ruclips.net/video/UBtPme0RQ2U/видео.html is Crosstalk doing a review of Omada from 4 months ago
Can I set a solid home network with three EAP 610 v2? Thanks, I am a big fan of your work.
Awesome. Glad to know about the v2. I have a v1 in my home. Its as big as a clock on the wall. Really like the v2 size. It would fit very nicely and look a bit like a fire alarm.
Omada gear is fantastic. Ive had it running for over a year and have POE switches running various APs and the firewall/router. Geat stuff. Very reliable.
Sorry if i didnt get it, but what was the positioning of the APs and devices for the test?
Was it a realistic scenario with 5 or 6m and a wall between them?
No and No. My guess is a 6 ft cord like he plugged into.
There’s a way to test the raw speed form device to AP using iperf2. If you ssh directly into the AP, you can run iperf2 server and then run iperf on your device to test your raw wireless speed without network switches and other stuff influencing the test
Of note, I don’t think you can ssh directly into the AP while it’s adopted into a Omada controller though
Thanks. Would be nice to know the range.
Any tests about wifi range ? Is there a difference between them ?
Would love to have seen a tear-down of those products.
I'm currently running Unifi AP 6 Lite and have been happy with it.
thanks, that was useful!
You need to test the distance too.
How about a comparison video of Unifi 6 to TP-Link EAP 6?
Hw thanks for the good video. What ist the power consumption of the two?
Hello from Greece! I would like to ask you if there is a big difference in the coverage if i mount it on the wall. Thank you!
@CrosstalkSolutions When will the 6E version come out? All I see on their website is the EAP690E HD for $462
Sorry if this has been asked before, but what’s the picture frame you have there?
Loving the videos!!
“Luminescent algae, Aquarium in Naples”
While a bit unrelated, can the Ubiquiti airMAX and other similar PtMP devices be used as a more traditional access point? Mainly wondering for locations such as homes on larger plots of land such as farms. Usually WiFi router with a decent radio placed by a window facing the field (1 watt transmit power and 4+ dBi antennas, will usually get around 600ft line of sight for basic clients such as smartphones. While not the main use case, can the airMax products work to support basic clients from a longer distance, since a high gain antenna can also receive weaker signals from a longer distance it would be interesting if those could be used for a niche use case like that
I bought a v2 too, and it's acting weirdly slow. Connecting my pixel 7 pro and steam deck LCD to my desktop and running iperf3, I'm only getting 200Mbit/s. Any ideas why? I'm only like 10 feet from the WAP and both mobile devices are connected via 5Ghz. The desktop is wired in through ethernet and has no problems on the gigabit LAN.
TPlink is my go-to product because of ease of install and low cost controller. But, why didn’t you compare speed through one and two walls. Speed at a distance is paramount. Customers don’t care about speed at 3 ft through air, but rather what is speed at the room down the hall.
Next, TPlink needs to reduce size of the outdoor WiFi 6 AP, especially chunky Ethernet port.
Is the controller really a deciding factor, they seem to all run on any computer or as I do, on a free tier VPS.
@@matthewbeardsley7004 We have over 50 locations and I want to send any tech to any location. Also, I don't want to fund a dedicated laptop to a location when a low cost $85 Omada controller is sufficient. Sorry, don't have a clue how to implement free tier VPS.
@@johnpoldo8817 ahh fair enough, as someone who manages a bunch of sites I can see the importance. It's just me and 2 AP's :-)
For me, this is good to know, but will never use tp link again. Had too much problems with the product in the past
Thanks for the tests! Weird.. i have the eap653(US). The one with only 22db and I’m getting between 720-730 down and 690-700 up with 5 tests. iPhone 13 Pro Max and 2019 Intel MBP, 4m or 10ft from the disk.
I thought those more expensive 610s were faster. No doubt the range is definitely lacking at 22db. But for a small condo unit, i think i picked the right AP. These are much cheaper than the 610s.
They should better advertise the half power aspect of the 653. I've returned mine because of the smaller range.
Line of sight signal isn’t really lacking. But the transmit power is. I’m not sure if they have the the 25db EU version, which should work. Although you are right. i found out that the 653s US version only has 22db after purchase because the power rating wasn’t obvious.
@@coralchaser The EU version also has higher power, but only on the 5GHz band 3, whatever that is.
@ i believe bandwidth is slower than band 1.
give me a list of compatible EAP? cause it doesnt look like there are not many support
There is a new AP cbw150ax from Cisco. This has no subscription and can be setup standalone. There is also a mesh node that is launched with it. Do. you think you can get one to test ? At around 125$ I think this one competes directly with the Unifi 6 AP for SOHO.
The old adage still holds true about new hardware: Don’t buy version 1.
in a village of about 200 homes, would it be better to strategically place mesh access points or saturate?
Hi there,
I’m keen on this TP Link 610V2 - I’m not running any Omada hardware. I have a POE TP- Link unmanaged switch. Can I still use this AP on my network?
How to wired backhaul set up 2 or more AEP's in Omada Controller with a Captive Portal/Hotspot?
Hi chris, you should start make review about Ruijie Networks. Thats great device and quite cheap. Thanks.
Chris, when are you reviewing the unifi DSLR camera?
I’m not.
@@CrosstalkSolutions any specific reason ?
when could Tp-Link also shrink the size of EAP660HD and EAP670? 🧐
Nice new studio but I have to say I miss the bears in the woods.
what about range ???
Test results without range are useless.
Radiation to speeds.... Cancer to a go and we're up and running. 😂😀
Thanks for the video Chris. I always feel like I am shaving years off my life messing with these access points.
Tp is China... Backdoor free😅