Neel 51 Trimaran Atlantic Crossing, ARC Regatta - Ep.3/5
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2022
- Atlantic crossing on Sailing trimaran Neel 51 with ARC Regatta from Canary Islands to Martinique via Cape Verde. 6 days sailing to Cape Verde and than 15 days to Caribbean, Martinique. How to sail and living aboard sailing catamaran.
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I found this fascinating, as my father was a cartographer who remapped a country back in the sixties, and also because my primary hobby is astronomy.
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Hey xxxx. Regarding the sponges you "don't quite know why they were in the yellow bag", is actually one of the most important things to have in a raft, both in extremely hot and extremely cold environments. They can be used to extract all seawater inside the barge, as water located at the bottom of the raft leads to loss of body heat, the first priority is to stay as dry/warm as possible. In order to collect water, sponges are used to dry up condensation from the raft's tent inside, mostly at night, this requires that one does not vent out too much internal air, only have a little open in the lower part of the raft's tent opening. Chris.
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I have not been sailing for 40 years and so your videos and your excellent explanations are so interesting and informative. Thanks for taking the time for your simple to understand explanations, especially your navigation without instruments.
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Thankyou for doing simple to understand sailing and also the way to know much better the boats features. Nice trip
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Hi Igor. I love your sailing philosophy and totally agree. I don’t race I sail and cruise for fun. Why make extra work out of it?
My two rules -
One do not go overboard, use all safety devices, especially in weather or at night
Two if it isn’t fun, then you are not doing it right. If you are not having fun then speak up and we will make changes
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Igor thank you too much for sharing your knowledge 🙏 keep mastering your journey Craig
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Igor the true Captain 👨✈️
Hello Igor, another brilliant video. Thank you so much.
Doing old school navigation is a great way to spend time at sea and could come handy.
Maybe I can contribute a couple of things...
Variation is due to the fact that the magnetic and geographic north poles do not coincide. It varies depending on the location on the earth and keeps changing over the years. It is important to check the date on your chart so you can check for when the variation was calculated, it usually comes with a little chart or graphic to calculate it for a few years.
I believe the boat compass is in that position so it is close to the helm. Once you know your deviation it is very easy to factor this in so it is not a problem. You need to be careful as variation can vary with the heading. If you are serious about this you need a a paper chart that tells you the deviation according to heading. The best way to calibrate this is using alignment points on land which is extremely accurate.
Nowadays nobody bothers with this as there are about 10 different GPS on board , and I can't blame them, still doing this kind of thinking really puts you in touch with nature on a big scale as well as with the sailors who came before GPS (like me...). Fair winds.
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Variation varies with geographic position not heading, that's deviation. He,s not likely to experience it on a plastic boat apart maybe engine proximity. The wheel is stainless and therefore diamagnetic. ,s deviation.
@@tregenna you are right I got mixed up in my post. Deviation is due to magnetic objects on the boat and varies with heading.
Glad I found your channel! Thanks Igor!
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Igor does it again! Great video. Thanks for so much detail. You are answering questions that no other boating RUclipsr is doing. When you say you like or dislike something you have the experience to relate to us “why” which is very helpful. Keep up the good work!! 🇨🇦👍
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Hi Igor, great info on old style nav! In GA especially on older planes with limited equipment, a lot of what you explained is relevant to us too. When flying things happen at a fast pace, so time is of the essence. So we have many "Rules of thumb", Like the "1 in 60" rule. You may well know it, but just in case, it states that for a distance of 60 units, 1 unit elevation or to the side, is equal to one degree. For nav it is good for making course corrections when a land feature is identified. For vertical nav it is used to calculate descent rates on final approach to land. EG; 1 mile is 5280 feet, so we use 6000 for ease of calculation, the difference will only result on 50 feet per mile error! So 1 mile, use 6000'/60 = 100. The general slope on approach is three degrees, so if you count of 1 mile markers you need to drop 300 feet per mile. Now you can calculate at 90 Kn is 1.5 mile per minute, so to stay on profile we need a descent rate of 450fpm. PS, a military pilot told me at critical stages of navigation, landing for example, always fly in multiples of sixty, as it makes mental calculations so easy. If you are flying at 120Kn and ATC asks for ETA the boundary etc, You just read off the DME say 26 miles, and in a flash you know it is 13 minutes away. Try doing that if you are running at cruise power with say 139Kn on the dial! Wind is taken into consideration, however with the speeds we are travelling the wind has a much smaller percentage effect on the numbers, and is usually only 5 degrees left or right!
On the compass deviation problem, it happens in aircraft too, once every year we do a compass swing. The aircraft is placed on an exactly marked area with true north, e s w marked and the aircraft is pointed at each cardinal point two or more times to get the true value. Then variation is taken into account to get deviation, much the same as you did in the video. Then we have to have, by law, a compass deviation card, signed and dated placed on the compass, This is a typical card www.leadingedgeairfoils.com/decal-placard-compass-deviation-cards.html
Aviation and ship s navigate by the exact same principles, we just do it at different speeds.
One last bit of trivia, I am UK based and went to the US to get my FAA ticket. When we went on a cross country flight to the FAA office, it struck me big time the amount of variation in Connecticut, the VOR compass rose was around 15 degrees west! Looking at the chart confused me for a few seconds as Hertford Airport was roughly due north but we had to steer 019m, not something I had encountered in Europe! I think Italy was around zero variation back then, 1989!
Safe travels, and really enjoy your videos, I fly over the Thames Estuary often and the Channel, maybe one day one of the boats I see down below will be you? Can you listen out on 121.5, or is that only the Coast Guard etc?
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Spectacular video!!!
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i have learned so much from you so far, thank you, keep them coming
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Igor, Love your detailed reviews and expert sailing knowledge. This is a welcome contribution to the knowledge base of both seasoned and novice sailors. As a bonus you look and sound good on camera - great job!
I agree!
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Once again a very interesting and informative video. Especially the topics around navigation. Explained in a very practical way. Many thanks for this! 👍
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Great channel Igor! I’ve been watching sailing channels for a while but on yours I actually learn something in addition to experiencing the journey with you. Great job all around, really enjoying it and thank you.
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Hey Igor. Greetings from Slovakia. I wanted to become a sailor for a long time now, I will hopefully start my captain's course this year. I really like your channel and your very relaxed and simple way of explaining sailing, that truly is of great value for me. Wish you many safe and adventurous voyages in the future. Michal
sail a lot THEORY ONLY GET'S YOU so far Fair winds
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Another really excellent video - thanks Igor!
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Igor, you are an incredible sailor, I would trust you with my life!
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Kind of a brilliant insight. Learned a lot. Well done 👍
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Very well explained all boat and sailing details .All your videos are welcome. Thanks and best regards from the Bay of Biscay, Spain.
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Very good informative, Igor. Unlike most other channels they're more site seeing tuned. One note on your compass deviatiion, it comes from magnetic north versus geographic north which can change over time quite rapidly. Polaris is geographic north within about .7 degrees. Love the explanation of true sailing and what modern sailing is all about.
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This series has been very interesting.
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Another great vid mate,im learning all the time.
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This guy makes sailing look easy.
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Loving these vids Igor.
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Love how you pronounce "Greenwich" (DON'T CHANGE IT!). But here is a Kraut letting you know the proper British pronunciation: Grenitch.
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Мне нравится Ваше видео, Игорь.
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Brilient thank you
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Sharing the lat log calculations is pretty cool.
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Very educational.
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Is good comment for great adventure. I like the information you give for sailing the Atlantic, particularly in regards natural magnetic variation allowance on de compass! Is good..
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good info Igor :) from the Viking
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nice informative content. thanks.
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Where's the next episode? I want to sail all the way to the Carrabeans with you guys 😁 really enjoying your content too, thanks. Safe sailing.
Premier is on Saturday.
Really appreciated the bits on navigation !-so nice to get such valuable basics presented in a fun and informal and narrative and anecdotal way.
(but still can't see why ,in cruising, one might favour a spinnaker over a genaker,,,,,,,,,,,??
Thanks for the fun and instruction !!
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Amazing content and learning a lot. Can you film yourself actually putting up the sails form beginning to end with all the details and your comments. Also docking and undocking and all the little intricacies and thoughts going in your head during the operation would be very helpful. Almost done watching all your videos and trying to read all the comments and responses. Best sailing channel on RUclips and thank you for sharing your knowledge, experience and intuition with us. Really appreciate this amazing content.
Thanks! I plan to film how to sail catamaran this summer :)
Thanks for sharing your journey. Awesome video and great sailor. Please store your bananas upright and keep them away from all other fruits, as they ripen they omit ethylene, that will ripen your other produce more rapidly
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Igor Greenwich is pronounced grenitch. Love that boat and great video.
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Great video, really like your approach to learn something on the go.
And you bring it back for us to enjoy.
Regarding of the devaton on stationary compasses, there should be deviation table somewhere around for all the cources.
And if not it is pretty easy one to make yourself on a calm day just by sailing around let's say in a all the cources in 30 or 15 degree interwals and noting down the error.
In between the measured courses it is easy to extrapolate by plotting errors.measured on a paper, as the line is usualy smooth.
Thanks 👍🍻There should be tables but I had them only on one boat and those were wrong as the official person doing them never sailed out to do them but instead just wrote them while drinking beer but it was ok for registration of the boat 😳
@@IgorStropnik Wow! That a disapointment.
I would assume that boatmakers will try to make it at least somewhat accurate if they do it at all.
I'm currently preparing for an exam and in one of navigation textbooks author recommends just to make those by yourself.
That's not surprising the book being russian, 10+ years old an author dislikes the usage of electronics means of navigation as a main one.
Very informative read for someone like myself sofa based GPS-spoiled wannaby sailer.
But will take a note to myself, to make one for every boat that I'll sail offshore.
Fair winds.
Thank you very informative, blessings from our Lord and Savior of good health, good weather and good friends 😊 ❤️ with increase, praise our Holy Abba thank you,😇❤️ in Jesus name, Amen.
Hi Igor, really enjoyed you comments and the educational parts. A ton of good stuff in it. I wonder why you did not mention to compensate the boats compass with a professional compensator.
You certainly know about that, but maybe you thought it would beyond the scope of this video.
Can’t wait for video #4 . . .😀
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@@IgorStropnik When is episode # 4 coming out. Can’t wait . . .
Hi Igor. I wanted to ask you if I could use a few clips from your NEEL 51 trans Atlantic series in an upcoming preliminary review of the new NEEL 52 that I am planning. I enjoyed your comments on the motion of the boat, the lack of squeaking, and the comfort of the aft facing settee in the cockloon. I would love to include these in my video. Please let me know if this would be OK. Many thanks. Dave.
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You don't need minerals in your water; you would need to drink a bathtub full of tap water to meet your daily mineral requirements! Fruit, veg, meat and other food is where you find organic minerals that your body needs.
Sailing is much more than the boat. Its about people interactions first.
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In order to correct the magnetic compass for the extraneous effects caused by metal and electricty onboard you would need to fit the compass into an old fashioned binnacle with iron balls on either side of the compass. Probably not cost effective for a modern boat!!! 😂
Handheld compass is the best…until you lose it.
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nice as always. is the motor Shaft or Saildrive ? can it be bespoked from the factory?
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I would prefer to add minerals, electrolytes to the fresh H2O. Great machine to have.
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Hey Igor. I love your very detailed videos. What do you think of the build quality of the Neels?
They feel stiff and strong.
@@IgorStropnik how about the interior cabinetry? Did it hold up?
@@crashtestrc no problem
Hola amigo Igor este también se corta los subtítulos en español por el medio del video no se si es un problema de aca en ARGENTINA coméntame como se puede arreglar es muy bueno como explicas las cosas pero nuestro ingles es precario desde ya muchas gracias buenos vientos Ruben
Looks like it is RUclips error...dont know how to fix.
You can but magnetic balls around the compasses (Lord Kelvins or Thompsons) Balls to compensate for the deviation many larger ships have them - obviously they have to be set up. Always assumed yachts had something similar but apparently not. (are you sure the heading on the B&G isn't just true heading though the difference between it and the compas seems pretty much teh same as the variation (8.5 degrees) the fact that your B&G knows what the variation is makes me think it's displaying true headings (otherwise why bother?).
B&g was magnetic but you can change it to true.
This boat seems to have alot of solar, couldnt you run the water maker off the house batteries, or does its electrical system not put out enough power?
Watermaker is 220v and a lot of amps.
Dear Mr. Igor, what would be your message to people who believe that the Earth is a flat plate?
Show me the edge 😃
Izvrsno, prekrasno , jednostavan pristup jedrenju , imaš li problema sa morskom bolesti?
Hvala🍻 Rjetko
For your time calculations, do you wait until the Sun is completely over the horizon to time sunrise? Or just before it appears? What about sunset? Do you wait until the Sun has just disappeared below the horizon?
In both sun has to be above horizon and touching it.
@@IgorStropnik Thanks for that info!!
Can you use the thermal camera to see the sunrise and sunset through the clouds?
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I've seen sustained speeds on a Outreamer 12 to 16 knots but i have never seen anything like that on a Neel Trimaran. Yet they say it can do that?
We were to heavy with food, spare parts,AC,…
hey igor. Thank you for your videos. Does the 'watch method' for measuring latitude work around the equinoxes? (without compass) :)
Probably should work
Hey Igor the infos contained in your videos is great but it's a bit long... sorry
Thanks! It’s long yes.
I think the weather is been too nice to you.
Yes
Does calculating longatude /latitude and time also disproves the flat earth argument?
Probably yes
Time 3:15. The sea is essentially flat. Waves are insignificant. You only have a head sail out. Why would you not put more sail up? Maybe raise the main to a third reef position. I would probably have done that but you did not. I am not unexperienced but I will gladly assume that you are more experienced. It is a Neal 51 tri-hull. Please educate me. Why did you not hoist more sail?
I think he was planning ahead and deliberately went slow as he did not want to arrive at night.
A little slow but this is very similar to actually being aboard. You need a bike trainer.
Shouldn't you look forward instead of aft? Shouldn't you want to know what you might run into rather than what you didn't?
Igor, do you know what your last name means in dutch?
No?
@@IgorStropnik damn, now i have to tell you, excuse me in advance, it’s “asshole-nik” 🤷♂️🤭😅
If sailing doesn't work out for you, you can get job as a Tom cruise stunt double.
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No Turkish subtitles? 🇹🇷
Just added Turkish to Neel episodes.
Why are you flying a Canadian flag?
It is registered there
Viruses😂😂😂😂😂😂
Learn to cook and or prepare food please … you’re missing too much of life’s rewards by just eating healthy raw food
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coisa chata, fala d+ do relogio e do barco nada...