I am really surprised that they left the comments on for these. People can be brutal on youtube comments. This student did well! Probably a resident now!
I don’t view this as a “PC” situation. Many people of color present from many countries. Our communities are more diverse (which is great). Clarifying the patient identified association is relevant to overcome any misconceptions/stereotypes (I.E. the patient may be a Latino-American of color that does not speak English, or African from a francophone country-again, doesn’t speak English).
I’m at a medical school in London, UK and we’re told to mention the ethnicity regardless - we’re told that it’s especially important as sickle cell is more common in the Afro-Caribbean community.
Teaching medicine is so complex that......if u wanted all to be as you wish.........I think u would not have Doctors....I thank the teachers of medicine. It's more like teaching you how to hold a pencil in first day of kindergarten.
Why are the female doctors wearing skirts and is their hair not tied together? In the netherlands that is one of the basic protocols for working in a hospital
You can't wear dresses or skirts on the wards in the Netherlands? You can in the UK... Hair should be tied up though, especially if they are about to perform a procedure eg venepuncture
I agree but skirts aren’t really an issue... I’m more concerned about white coats as it’s a clear infection control issue. I’m in the UK and we have to be bare below the elbows because of this.
Watching this because I'm starting to learn how to do oral presentations. Those that aren't in medicine should know that it is insanely difficult to present ANY patient to their team in a coherence manner. There will be a lot of "umms" and "uhh" because it's human nature to use those filler words instead of standing in complete awkward silence for those 1-2 seconds. It's even more nerve wracking when you're a student doing it in front of EVERYBODY. The important part is to present the patient, not to make a speech. I'll also be quite honest, oral presentations in a teaching scenario is quite useless. In real life, they only want to know the pertinent information that are relevant. It'd be useless to present this to your attending physician 5-6 times per day. If that was the case, then any medical student would've gone into a speech career than medicine. It's also very hard to record every patient's detail which is why there's the EMR to look it up.
You are giving incorrect advice Cloo Lcoo. The presentation in the video is how formal presentations are done in the United States. However, they are usually done outside the patient room, I'll admit. You state the name, age, gender, and ethnicity of patient (the presenter did not state gender which he should have). The presenter did a really good job for the most part.
Too lengthy, to verbose. Just to the AP/MDM already. Know one gives a shit thats 8/10 or anything of that of crap. I always hated having to hear these long winded and useless presentations. Your attending does not give a shit about all the ancillary details either.
I would add the first step. Don't treat the patient as an object. So such presentation else where not near the patient. This culture if bedside one sided presentations should be modified. Anyone notice how discomfortable the patient and relative appear during this trauma?
It’s the patient history and presentation, no secret about. He asked for permission to present in his presence, and besides how else would you want your doctor to have learnt medicine if not with patients.
if i said "" y/o african american here I'd get punched in the face. this isn't real, obviously they are all med students and this is some sort of simulation center. They made the video for their P3 class
The ethnicity is important in this case because this man came to the hospital for a suspected Sickle Cell Disease pain crisis. Sickle Cell Disease is alot more prevalent in African-Americans than in Europeans. It's therefore a relevant fact that needs to be taken into account in order to give this gentleman the proper treatment.
@@Mr196710 Ha! Your comment shows that you have no clue. Representation matters for people of color. You are a part of the problem if you cannot comprehend that fact.
@@eccentriclocs 'Equity at all costs' is an example of 'Cultural Marxism'. I suggest reading up on the Tavistock Institute and a dose of Dr. Thomas Sowell PRN.
@@Mr196710 No thanks. Representation is so important for people of color for so many medical and practical reasons. If you are a practicing MD of color you would be able to understand.
S J it’s rounds- it’s a teaching hospital. rounds are only to be done in the morning and there shouldn’t be that many people in a room unless the patient has gone under urgent distress eg. crashes as you’d know it
@@melissa-zk4tb Aren't they all saying they are teaching hospitals? At least here they do. But we still all should have the right to tell them to get the hell out. Privacy, modesty and right to non forced concent. Meaning consent spelled out in understandable language, and patient allowed to read every section and saying which items they consent to and those not. Including we should have option to ask for and receive same gender support staff.
S J of course they have the right to have everyone out, but it’s very uncommon for someone to do something like that unless they have a mental condition or they just feel absolutely violated out of their privacy. the doctors will listen as they please and take some people out. most people are fine with it since they like the company and it’s only about 7 mins at max (where i’m from) anyways. i understand where you’re coming from, though
@@melissa-zk4tb Thanks for understanding but, you kind of called me and people like me who want the dignity of privacy mental. We are no more mental than those who want an audience for everything. Everyone should be asked ahead of time if they prefer one on one with their physician. I hate teaching hospitals and want privacy. I want to be left alone when in for anything except for my spouse and children.
S J never had i said you were mental, i’m saying it’s more common with people who have mental issues. don’t take things out of context. if you don’t like teaching hospitals, ask to be transferred to another hospital. you can’t expect to be alone forever since it’s a hospital. it’s their job to monitor you and check up on you
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Did this shit in medical school. I swear it’s one of the toughest things. Dude did this like a complete champion
No pain no gain. Keep going young doctor 👍
He did really well, congrats.
I am really surprised that they left the comments on for these. People can be brutal on youtube comments. This student did well! Probably a resident now!
Great presentation, great confidence
We are held hands to palpate, en listen and listen and held hands to listen hearts and chests.....its not easy.
I don’t view this as a “PC” situation. Many people of color present from many countries. Our communities are more diverse (which is great). Clarifying the patient identified association is relevant to overcome any misconceptions/stereotypes (I.E. the patient may be a Latino-American of color that does not speak English, or African from a francophone country-again, doesn’t speak English).
Exactly. Not to mention that there are potential differences in "first-choice" medications based on the ethnicity of the patient.
I’m at a medical school in London, UK and we’re told to mention the ethnicity regardless - we’re told that it’s especially important as sickle cell is more common in the Afro-Caribbean community.
I like the presentation good one so far keep serving life my fellow Doctors 🩺❤️
Helpful video, but the cartoon doctor graphic will give me nightmares.
Amazing, thanks
Teaching medicine is so complex that......if u wanted all to be as you wish.........I think u would not have Doctors....I thank the teachers of medicine.
It's more like teaching you how to hold a pencil in first day of kindergarten.
Very nice ❤
Third world countries medical teachers must watch this video to improve themselves
Doesn’t seem any different..
Alhmdullila we far more better then this..
Which countries are the third world????
What makes a country a third world???
This is ordinary presentation, I don't think any thing special.
Mate this presentation is simpler than what we've learnt here and I live in a third world country.
Keep calm steady and control the situation 7ls ward round medical history etc and
Bless
Great presentation and treatment. Is morphine an NSAID though?
Charity Atsu no..
No its an opiate...
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No, it’s an Opioid analgesic.
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Why are the female doctors wearing skirts and is their hair not tied together? In the netherlands that is one of the basic protocols for working in a hospital
You can't wear dresses or skirts on the wards in the Netherlands? You can in the UK... Hair should be tied up though, especially if they are about to perform a procedure eg venepuncture
I agree but skirts aren’t really an issue... I’m more concerned about white coats as it’s a clear infection control issue. I’m in the UK and we have to be bare below the elbows because of this.
Watching this because I'm starting to learn how to do oral presentations. Those that aren't in medicine should know that it is insanely difficult to present ANY patient to their team in a coherence manner. There will be a lot of "umms" and "uhh" because it's human nature to use those filler words instead of standing in complete awkward silence for those 1-2 seconds. It's even more nerve wracking when you're a student doing it in front of EVERYBODY. The important part is to present the patient, not to make a speech. I'll also be quite honest, oral presentations in a teaching scenario is quite useless. In real life, they only want to know the pertinent information that are relevant. It'd be useless to present this to your attending physician 5-6 times per day. If that was the case, then any medical student would've gone into a speech career than medicine. It's also very hard to record every patient's detail which is why there's the EMR to look it up.
i remember presenting a case mmm was nervous 😂😂
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He is overly reliant on the notes!
don't need to say african american if the patient is present in front of them
He didn't talk at all. For all they knew, he could've been African. It is important to clearly specify.
What if he was African...lol
There is no shame in being African lol...we Are proud
Cloo Lcoo Why is the term Euro American not in vogue
You are giving incorrect advice Cloo Lcoo. The presentation in the video is how formal presentations are done in the United States. However, they are usually done outside the patient room, I'll admit. You state the name, age, gender, and ethnicity of patient (the presenter did not state gender which he should have). The presenter did a really good job for the most part.
Deny the use of drugs?
😂too much time he is taking 😅
way way too much --- just get to the damn plan
This is non sense
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the way he said "african american" made me cringe and close this video. Bye forever.
No Social Distance And Mask
This was 5 years ago, long before covid...
Totally unacceptable. Patient's identity, privacy and confidentiality must be respected. What a director who allowed this.
Too lengthy, to verbose. Just to the AP/MDM already. Know one gives a shit thats 8/10 or anything of that of crap.
I always hated having to hear these long winded and useless presentations. Your attending does not give a shit about all the ancillary details either.
I would add the first step. Don't treat the patient as an object. So such presentation else where not near the patient. This culture if bedside one sided presentations should be modified. Anyone notice how discomfortable the patient and relative appear during this trauma?
It’s the patient history and presentation, no secret about. He asked for permission to present in his presence, and besides how else would you want your doctor to have learnt medicine if not with patients.
I certainly would be traumatised from learning the shit that's happening with me.
if i said "" y/o african american here I'd get punched in the face. this isn't real, obviously they are all med students and this is some sort of simulation center. They made the video for their P3 class
What?
yo dumbass. this is y u NOT a doc
The ethnicity is important in this case because this man came to the hospital for a suspected Sickle Cell Disease pain crisis. Sickle Cell Disease is alot more prevalent in African-Americans than in Europeans. It's therefore a relevant fact that needs to be taken into account in order to give this gentleman the proper treatment.
Not one African American resident🥺 Representation is so important.
In the medical profession only skills matter.
@@Mr196710 Ha! Your comment shows that you have no clue. Representation matters for people of color. You are a part of the problem if you cannot comprehend that fact.
@@eccentriclocs 'Equity at all costs' is an example of 'Cultural Marxism'. I suggest reading up on the Tavistock Institute and a dose of Dr. Thomas Sowell PRN.
@@Mr196710 No thanks. Representation is so important for people of color for so many medical and practical reasons. If you are a practicing MD of color you would be able to understand.
@@eccentriclocs Knowledge isn't PC and Affirmative Action in the medical professions could result in needed deaths. Empathy can be possessed by all.
Get all those people out of there. I will only want my doctor and my spouse and children present. What happened to privacy?
S J it’s rounds- it’s a teaching hospital. rounds are only to be done in the morning and there shouldn’t be that many people in a room unless the patient has gone under urgent distress eg. crashes as you’d know it
@@melissa-zk4tb Aren't they all saying they are teaching hospitals? At least here they do. But we still all should have the right to tell them to get the hell out. Privacy, modesty and right to non forced concent. Meaning consent spelled out in understandable language, and patient allowed to read every section and saying which items they consent to and those not. Including we should have option to ask for and receive same gender support staff.
S J of course they have the right to have everyone out, but it’s very uncommon for someone to do something like that unless they have a mental condition or they just feel absolutely violated out of their privacy. the doctors will listen as they please and take some people out. most people are fine with it since they like the company and it’s only about 7 mins at max (where i’m from) anyways. i understand where you’re coming from, though
@@melissa-zk4tb Thanks for understanding but, you kind of called me and people like me who want the dignity of privacy mental. We are no more mental than those who want an audience for everything. Everyone should be asked ahead of time if they prefer one on one with their physician. I hate teaching hospitals and want privacy. I want to be left alone when in for anything except for my spouse and children.
S J never had i said you were mental, i’m saying it’s more common with people who have mental issues. don’t take things out of context. if you don’t like teaching hospitals, ask to be transferred to another hospital. you can’t expect to be alone forever since it’s a hospital. it’s their job to monitor you and check up on you
That was hot garbage.
uhhh yeah uhhh uhuh uhh never had a pneumococal vaccine which is interesting uhhh