Thank you! I have a Ph.D. in astrophysics, and am a very critical user. I have been using the FSD versions since they were first released. They have always been a fabulous driving aid, far beyond anything Mercedes or anyone else has, but the latest FSD 12.3.6 continues to startle me by detecting "events" before I do. Not quite "robotaxi perfect," maybe, but shockingly better than expected.
How is a PHD in astrophysics related to the driving experience, unless you're riding a spaceship to Alpha Centauri? I am not knocking on your experience, but I am holding off for improvements. You can't launch a rocket to the space station with an incomplete FSD unless you're Boeing.
I was driving my Model Y on FSD 12.3 yesterday it I was about 3 meters away from running into a parked bus. I quickly took over because I was paying attention. It's got a little ways to go.
how would u know if it will hit the bus and not do a hard brake. don’t get me wrong, i disengage as well on things i felt dangerous and it is still definitely Supervised FSD.. but im impressed on things i thought was tight and it handled it well. i just had an instance 2 weeks ago of a car running a red fast and FSD 12 saw it first and quickly braked while moving to another lane to avoid it… that is another side of the story
@PinoyTeslaTech, It wasn't going to stop. I’ve been driving FSD for over 2 years, and I am very lenient with the car, to the point where I make my passengers uncomfortable. In this particular instance, I was very focused on what was happening and was a little shocked by the cars inability to see the bus. I am a big FSD fan, and I don't scare easy. This one scared me
Have been user of FSD since the first roll outs. Currently on 12.3.6 and have had only two of those scary incidents. One was the car having a moment of indecision on whether to go on a left turn into oncoming traffic and another at around about where another driver had a late decision maneuver creating a complicated yield. I got 12.3.6 5 weeks ago and am totally impressed with the improvement. I have routinely driven in downtown city scenarios full of pedestrians, bikes, and construction. It sees stuff that I don’t and is very safe. I get that people want as it is named, “Full Self Driving”, but for me it is extremely close to that and safer than I am without it. I have the technical knowledge from my years in building AI capable chips for AMD, and now the practical experience of seeing an application of machine learning success. This gives me confidence that Tesla will continue to get FSD even better and is well ahead of everyone else. As for the robotaxi stuff, yeah I agree 12.3.6 is not enough yet. But, 12.4 will be adding for drive endpoints like a door drop off or self parking as a choice. It already can pull up to the curb and stop at destination. And then start out from an open parallel parked position when there is no car in parked in front. It is getting better faster now with a 100% neural net stack. No, not a “ long way to go” unless you want to watch a movie, read a book or go to sleep like robotaxi should allow you to do.
Thanks for the valuable daily updates Sam ! I can imagine that in the future vehicles will have higher IQ than the drivers. And learning how to drive will become obsolete for human beings in 20 - 25 years.
Tesla has these problems,i hope they will fix it,lack of acceleration noise (like ixm60 or taycan line up)too much simplified interior which people dont like,lack of new battery tech,they still use 10 years old ncm batteries,that is why tesla evs dont improve their range because there is nothing new about ther battery pack tech,
It is bonkers what an ordinary man can drive these days. Just have tried Volvo EX30, small city SUV box, two motors, 4x4, 428 hp, 0-100 km/h in 3.6 seconds. All this for "normal" car price, moreover on cheapish side. Basically you are able to excersise unlimited supercar acceleration inside a city, at a 100-200 meters streights. This IS a revolution.
Sam, "more fun to drive" because the car does the boring stuff, and you can do the fun stuff, IF you want to. FSD 12 is just plain fabulous (I admit I am 81, but still have good motor skills). Ver 12.4 continuously startles me as it detects things before I do. It is getting difficult to find anything it cannot do (there are still a few, but these are dwindling!
i agree…we will never buy a vehicle without FSD… we plan to get a BMw or Rivian next but FSD 12 changes it. a legit game changer for us for long commutes and daily trips,w family, errands, road trips, etc. my body aches from driving dropped and its also another layer of protection for us w 50k daily deaths per year on the road
@mervstash3692 you can get insurance discounts if cars have certain options. For instance if it has a forward collision warning system you pay less for insurance than somebody who doesn't have it. These discounts can add up.
I don't think everyone will want it. People love driving cars. I know folks including myself that have all kinds of driving features and never use them, not even on trips. It's even more stressful to have to baby sit FSD than to just be in control and paying attention all the time. Humans can often sense there is going to be a problem long before it would trigger a response from a self driving system. Even something as simple as not following a truck dropping rocks is automatic for drivers but FSD won't avoid that or tire hazards or pot holes or bad parts of town.
@frankcoffey obviously not 100% of the population is going to want it. But I was one of those people in the 1980's who had a relatively expensive (> $1000) Motorola bag phone (with Cellular One) plugged into my car's cigarette lighter (I got it for FREE from a friend who had upgraded to a newer better one). Almost everybody back then was saying to me "hey you think you are somebody somehow too important to use a regular phone???" I would reply "it's just something convenient to have..it really is". I would then get a weird stare response back. Fast-forward to today and most people are on the verge of SUICIDE if they don't have access to their cell phone. A downright amazing 180 degree turn! I think there is going to be some rejection of FSD in the beginning (mostly by those who feel it is a silly expensive waste of money...just like the bag phone) but then as the price comes down it is going to be seen as something so indispensable that MOST people will refuse to buy any car without it. I've been through it all before but luckily this time everybody I demoed FSD to has had mostly a positive reaction.
@@frankcoffey I just came back from a 1600 mile road trip. I got the FSD trial the day before I left. No way would I want to go on a road trip without it. If there is a truck throwing rocks on front of me all I have to do it hit the turn signal and the car changes lanes by itself. It's not more stressful..
So. A small light robotaxi with a 30-40 kWh battery thy can fully charge in 10-12 minutes and go 350km on a charge. Running all day every day. Optimus at the central charging stations to put the plugs in to charge.
Mr Sam Viking, I hate to break it to you but Jensen is just talking his book. He just wants to sell more of his GPU chips and boards, and the best way to do that is if all competitors to Tesla start training their own AI LLMs because they'll have to use Nvidia chips and boards primarily. They cannot afford to design and produce their own gpus.
The thing I don't get about Tesla's approach to FSD using neural nets is why it sometimes fails at basic non edge case driving scenarios. Is this a fatal flaw the way LLMs like ChatGPT hallucinate, which they are struggling to solve? If I was Tesla I would include a robust supervising CPU with backup power, sensors, etc. that would be monitoring what the neural net GPU is doing but using traditional algorithmic that r not likely to fail for basic driving or generally in the same manners, and intervene if it detects the neural net is erring, or failed and shut down, etc. thus about to crash. This would avoid many potential accidents and put a lot of people and the authorities at ease and much more likely to get approval and get adopted. Tesla already has an algorithmic based approach with FSD version 11 so would be easy to implement and having redundancy at multiple levels is a wise idea. Computers suddenly fail all the time, like any OS. Besides, the car could even drive itself while supervised in an emergency if the neural net has failed and using algorithmic CPU, or at the least pull over at a safe spot. Once FSD is mass adopted many younger people may opt out of bothering to learn to drive but would still prefer the freedom of owning a car vs Robotaxi, so having redundancy unlikely to fail in the same ways would be wise to have, maybe required. I know I would make it a requirement if I was a deciding authority. This could make the difference between FSD being safer than humans now vs never or in 10 years. Who knows
I have 2020 Tesla X. Recently I received 30 day trial for FSD. It’s almost killed me twice! First time it had a merge issue on the highway. Another driver did not yield entering the highway and then it got complicated. I had to take over. But even scarier I was heading due west during sunset. Tesla slowed down for a yellow light, but then before stopping it sped up and ran the red light! Luckily there weren’t other cars around! WTF? Is this suppose to happen?
Did you send it to Tesla? I mean the data of this intervention? Then it will be fixed very soon. It is getting exponentially better with your help. Soon it will get the magnitude of orders better than any average human driver and later better than Avery human driver.
Tere will always be the odd ones like many people in my country Romania that refuse to buy cars that don’t have manual gear shifting. Their argument is that this is the only way you feel like driving.
Tesla is still one of Nvidea's largest customers in its datacenters. #Dojo does the 'training/learning, but Nvidea is the 'front-end' processor. For the old-school techies, you might remember the IBM 3270/3705 architecture, combined with the DEC VAX-cluster system.
It's not sufficient to compare self driving accidents with all accidents. It's not a fair comparison because the self driving system doesn't activate in some situations and requires the driver to take over in others. You would have to count all times when the car wouldn't self drive or required the person to take over as an accident to get a clearer picture. That would be unfair in the other direction. We need real criteria that is stated before the results are known. The self driving systems have to do things like pass driving tests, pull over when a police car pulls them over, pull over when a firetruck or ambulance is approaching, let passengers out who want to get out, etc. Reliable behavior under these circumstances is not iminent.
Is there a poll or other indication as to how many people actually want FSD? There are all these assumptions, but what if people will treat it as a video game and not want to pay much for it?
@@ElySky95 my point is FSD is fools errands.. Most of AI academics agree that the current crude neural network model is not ever going to achieve AGI no matter how much compute and data you throw at them.
I wasn't sure that FSD was the future until I saw that my elderly mother is using it every day on her Model Y. She used to be afraid of driving in places she wasn't familiar with but not anymore because FSD literally handles 95% of the driving and she handles the rest. When people discover that you can have a robot literally drive you anywhere you want day or night, the game will forever be changed. Right now I believe 90% of the general population has no idea what FSD is.
2:52 when he says more fun to drive “” I rented a Tesla model 3 long range for 8 days in September 2023 with FSD .. I used the FSD during over 1,500 highway miles on that trip .. when he says “fun to drive” he means in traffic which is stressful and awful .. I figure I’m more likely to get in a crash going slowly in traffic than fast on an open road
Oh wow these are some really encouraging and game changing words from individuals! Let’s forget about any reasonable way to evaluate results. Let’s just sit here and talk about words and anecdotes. Makes sense. As electric Viking tells us in this video these words and anecdotes ‘vindicates’ the firing of 10-15% of the workforce. This is certainly not a shilling this is just a rational and highly supported claim from a well researched man on RUclips.
I love my EV but I would not want it to drive me. I really love driving, FSD in my car is pointless, but having driven in the USA, I can understand why they would want FSD.
So I believe the NVIDIA drive will also allow all car makers to achieve autonomy. The problem is currently only Tesla is developing a dedicated robo taxi car which can be mass produced cheaply. So Tesla is really the only legacy car manufacturer who can turn a profit with the robo taxi model. I expect China will develop a competitive robo taxi before any other legacy auto maker.
Just got my first smart phone last year. The only reason my wife and I finally got them is that we know our children will eventually start using them when they get older.
While I have not driven it myself, I was a passenger in my wife's self driving trial. I surprised her, but did a better job than she does and it felt good to me.
Once FSD is perfected, it will be the death of the auto industry. Self driving electric taxis will be so cheap to operate, it won't make sense for most people to own a car. I believe Tony Seba made this point.
Don't want anyone "making love" in my car if I use it as a robotaxi. Or at least lay down a towel. And it's not a toilet. This is my biggest concern with putting my car on the Tesla Network.
Nvidia CEO says something that will sell more Nvidia products 😮. Shocking! I’m actually blown away he didn’t roll out the latest Blackwell chips while he was saying everyone can do what Tesla is doing if you just buy this chip.
See how carefully crafted wording is. Yes Tesla is far ahead of everyone else in self-driving, but it doesn't say how close it is to full autonomy. Just because you are number 1, doesn't mean you are close to goal. That doesn't matter when you are just trying to sell picks and shovels to rake in billions, for as long as people live in delusions that you can take a nap while car is taking you to desination.
Nvidia CEO is not a lawyer… lawyers and tech people are different…especially w “carefully crafted words and documentation”. 25 years ago, do i ever imagine that im going to drive a full EV? let alone 2 in my driveway.. no way…. and now, entire family is 90% or more a passenger only while the car goes to work, school and long road trips without a gas station visit. if u think people a delusional that they can take a nap, im sure folks will say the same thing about mass EV a decade ago… as a daily user of FSD 12, while i see tons are stressed w their long commutes... heck yeah… they are close
@@blackhawkteslatech don't extrapolate EV to self driving. Completely orthogonal problems. AI is a lot farther. My guestimate is at least 20 years away
Difficult for me to say Tesla are doing it the right way if they aren't using stereo vision to use parallax to get depth perception. A single camera cannot do that. Also, variable resolution would optimize processing speed a lot. We have a macular and peripheral vision for a reason! Also making love while driving isn't recommended... Take the coffee out of the cupholder first!
Read a little and you will discover that Tesla has 3 forward facing cameras behind the rearview mirror. That's one more than humans use when looking forward. As for rear view, almost all vehicles come with a single rear camera now and most of them display some very accurate lines that bend and twist when the front wheels are shifted....and that seems to work very well. The only issue that I see with using the camera system is the snow and salt grime in the winter which eventually occluded one or more of the rear/side views and need to be cleaned....but, I'm sure Waymo and Cruise would never have that issue with all those sensors they use? I wish their passengers luck when the vehicle tells them that it can't continue and would like for them get out to clear one of the 20+ sensors.
@@TeslaDo_d I have a Model 3 AWD thanks, and know very well how they work. Having multiple cameras is not the same thing as having stereo pairs. Try playing tennis or driving with one eye instead of two, and you will understand what i mean.
@@ahaveland How do you think it’s generating the 3D scene when parking or pulling into the garage? How do you think it’s accurately able to show the locations of dozens of pedestrians around the car? If you have a Tesla do you disbelieve your lying eyes?
@@jamesmcneal1821yet common sense and brains do not go together with the lack of attention spans people have today, so there will be an increase of fsd caused accidents because of the Tesla owners are using it while reading the paper, sleeping and generally being a bunch of retards when they should be paying attention to the road and driving themselves and not letting a program do it.
True. Again today, I will watch my Model Y drive from my driveway at home to the parking lot at work 25 miles away. At which time, I will be required to tap the brake and chose a parking space that is highlighted on the screen. Maybe I won't need to tap the brake when the car stops in the parking lot in v12.4? It's such a pain. LOL! I want to choose an option on the screen that allows me to exit the car and then it parks itself in any empty space not marked as 'reserved or handicap' while I am walking away.
@@jamesmcneal1821 I doubt that'll ever be the case. I rather expect even supervised self driving to get into crash cos as more people rely on it, the more they'll lose their own driving skill.
I thought about this as well. I paid for the full package and it hasn't been worth much for the last 2 years, but it was fun. After the v12 release, my car's behaviors and capabilities improved phenomenally. I am watching a near perfect robotaxi drive me around daily. So, to your point, I now believe that Tesla's hardware will be added to nearly all future cars by the end of this decade and the 'ability' for Tesla to take over at any time you wish will be in every vehicle. However, Tesla may offer different levels of autonomy for different prices and the prices could be based on mileage or time. If Tesla wants to offer L4/L5 driving where they assume all liability for the vehicle's behavior, then the price will be high because the car can then be sent to a destination with no human occupants, or the occupants can sleep, etc. If Tesla wants to offer L4/L5 'supervised' where the car will drive itself but Tesla has no liability because you have provided insurance info to them, then it can be at a reduced price. I was caught in a region wide traffic jam in the northeastern US after the eclipse and I was so thankful to have version 12. My car drove itself for 5 hours and patiently travelled the backroads all the way to my home 200 miles away while everyone in 'less' capable vehicles were absolutely stopped on the highways. That's when I thought, "If they all had a way to purchase a 1 day FSD ride to cover their 10-12 hour ride back to the big city for $50 (or less), Tesla would have made $50 million on April 8th alone. FSD will not be dependent upon the powertrain. It will work in ICE vehicles as well.
Of course he praise Tesla for a reason! A CEO always act in the interest of their company/shareholders. Two suggestions: 1. He wants Tesla to move back to the Nvidia platform. 2. Tesla uses AI as their method to achieve full self driving. If other car manufacturers emphasize that same method they will likely buy Nvidia.
The issue I have with the tesla self driving is that they are not promoting criteria for how we will know when it is achieved. Tesla and the whole community is just using anecdotes and feelings to make a marketing argument.
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This is pretty frightening since Tesla has been promising full self driving since 2019. Literally every year. If this company is way ahead of everyone else, I think I understand what the Nvidia CEO is saying
What do you expect Jensen to say otherwise? Tesla is a client, Elon and Jensen knew each other for years; Jensen is competitive and yet he never talked bad about its competitors.
Guess what................ I don't give a holy shit about "Self Driving" cars. I want a good solid car that I can drive to cover my day to day needs for transportation. Self Driving cars are a toy for the rich to play with. We need a good $20,000.00 car that people can purchase without going into debt they can't afford.
Agreed. And wasn't that originally one of Elon's supposed gifts to humanity. An affordable EV for the masses. Instead of that he produced the garbage cybertruck. Now Tesla are indicating they will move away from private vehicle production altogether.
12.3.6 Has 112 miles driven to critical disengagements as per FSD Tracker. That number must be in the hundreds of thousands if not millions in order to be better by 10x than humans. There is still a long way to go, because in the last 8 years, Tesla is not improving this number to what in needs be. Elon is betting the whole company on an unproven technology.
wasn't there this video of Elon Musk a dozen years ago making fun of BYD...this nothing new, they'll catch up, they might not match completely, but they'll definitely get close enough to the technology
Yes, reporters were saying BYD was ready to go global in 2011 with the BYD e6 ( a 100% EV) and Elon Musk laughed saying BYD's tech wasn't ready enough for the world market and they should focus on winning the Chinese car market first before attempting to go global or they will be killed by their Chinese competitors. It's now 13 years later and BYD has only recently started going global after conquering the local Chinese market.
Its evolution, never give in, never give up. Theres the posibility that automonous self driving technology could be franchised out to automotive competitors as a service. The financial benifits are unlimited for Tesla. You would have to be insane not to consider investing. (Nope, i dont have shares, im piss poor broke, unemployed. Only an eduit cant see the future they are aiming for, going to space baby!)
Cui bono? Really… in which scenario does NVIDIA sell more hardware and services - LiDAR with stupid software OR massive scale video based Machine Learning 🤔
If the US had to put a 100% tariff on cars in order to prevent competition, that tells you Americans will be paying twice as much for a car as necessary.
The Achilles heel for Tesla's FSD is the catastrophic failure modes you get with neural net AI. You can achieve statistical success of better overall safety statistics than with human drivers and still have unacceptable performance because when you do fail the car does something transparently idiotic that no human driver would do. Musk could care less - for him statistics are all he requires - but I think regulators and the general public will look for more acceptable failure modes. All you need is some oddly goofy construction site set up and the neural net training may not be sufficient to cover the situation: you need human controls in the car and somebody paying attention - or else failure causing damage and possibly life. Alternatively, you need a more sophisticated form of AI than simply good ol' neural net.
@@timsailors All robo taxi companies are going to fail, none are making money or even within decades of paying for the R&D. And that's if everything goes perfect and we all know it won't.
@mervstash3692 tell us all which specific consumer car models out on the road right now are "everybody else". Vaporware doesn't count. XPeng NGP is the only one I can think of that has both highways and local roads covered.
@mervstash3692 As I suspected your head must be on another planet. Vaporware shown in scripted videos but not in the hands of consumers so they can see if it actually "works" doesn't count or we could claim Tesla had a level 4+ FSD system "working" 8 years ago. There are no Audi car models for sale with FSD. The current Mercedes and BMW systems are just for highways and do not work on local roads. The current Hyundai car models only have highway systems and do not work on local roads. BTW .
@@someuser7501 Tesla is the only one calling it FSD. Which is Level 2 autonomy. No mental gymnastics is going to change that fella! Drink that copium!
Electric Viking, I think it would be beneficial to start covering Tesla Energy Storage more closely. Elon Musk meeting with leaders in countries like Indonesia, Argentina, and India is a phenomenal sign of their strategic expansion. Tesla aims to expand their Energy Storage business by another 15 times by 2030. Tesla is projected to reach 100 gigawatt-hours (GWh) of storage capacity by the end of this year, with a goal of reaching 1.5 terawatt-hours (TWh) by 2030. Tesla will need to build many new factories. At the current production rate of 40 GWh per factory, they would need around 35 additional factories unless they scale up the size of each factory. This expansion could generate $500-700 billion in revenue from energy storage alone by 2030.
Exactly... Also, don't you think that NVIDIA would like to sell their A.I. chips to every car manufacturer? This assessment is for their own benefit (even if they are right... we don't know).
Really so you mean it's better for Nvidia to be nice to Tesla and toss back every other car manufacturer customer? Maybe this is a paradox argument, what do you think?
@@3nd939n3r he wasn’t dissing his other customers, just saying that Tesla were a long way ahead in Self Driving. You could also take that as “You’ll need to buy lots of our shiny new hardware if you want to try to catch them”.
what does he have to gain? He said that every car will need the class of AI hardware that each tesla has. Who will sell them that lol. Use your head. But we all think he is right.
Thank you! I have a Ph.D. in astrophysics, and am a very critical user. I have been using the FSD versions since they were first released. They have always been a fabulous driving aid, far beyond anything Mercedes or anyone else has, but the latest FSD 12.3.6 continues to startle me by detecting "events" before I do. Not quite "robotaxi perfect," maybe, but shockingly better than expected.
Fsd alone will wash away ice vehicles exponentially faster than any regulations that are in place..
How is a PHD in astrophysics related to the driving experience, unless you're riding a spaceship to Alpha Centauri? I am not knocking on your experience, but I am holding off for improvements. You can't launch a rocket to the space station with an incomplete FSD unless you're Boeing.
Enjoying my Model 3 with 12.3 - looking forward to the new .4 update! Amazing technology that will save lives!!!
I was driving my Model Y on FSD 12.3 yesterday it I was about 3 meters away from running into a parked bus. I quickly took over because I was paying attention. It's got a little ways to go.
how would u know if it will hit the bus and not do a hard brake. don’t get me wrong, i disengage as well on things i felt dangerous and it is still definitely Supervised FSD.. but im impressed on things i thought was tight and it handled it well. i just had an instance 2 weeks ago of a car running a red fast and FSD 12 saw it first and quickly braked while moving to another lane to avoid it… that is another side of the story
@PinoyTeslaTech, It wasn't going to stop. I’ve been driving FSD for over 2 years, and I am very lenient with the car, to the point where I make my passengers uncomfortable. In this particular instance, I was very focused on what was happening and was a little shocked by the cars inability to see the bus. I am a big FSD fan, and I don't scare easy. This one scared me
@@davemiller6121 wow… hopefully they fix this
Have been user of FSD since the first roll outs. Currently on 12.3.6 and have had only two of those scary incidents. One was the car having a moment of indecision on whether to go on a left turn into oncoming traffic and another at around about where another driver had a late decision maneuver creating a complicated yield. I got 12.3.6 5 weeks ago and am totally impressed with the improvement. I have routinely driven in downtown city scenarios full of pedestrians, bikes, and construction. It sees stuff that I don’t and is very safe. I get that people want as it is named, “Full Self Driving”, but for me it is extremely close to that and safer than I am without it. I have the technical knowledge from my years in building AI capable chips for AMD, and now the practical experience of seeing an application of machine learning success. This gives me confidence that Tesla will continue to get FSD even better and is well ahead of everyone else. As for the robotaxi stuff, yeah I agree 12.3.6 is not enough yet. But, 12.4 will be adding for drive endpoints like a door drop off or self parking as a choice. It already can pull up to the curb and stop at destination. And then start out from an open parallel parked position when there is no car in parked in front. It is getting better faster now with a 100% neural net stack. No, not a “ long way to go” unless you want to watch a movie, read a book or go to sleep like robotaxi should allow you to do.
Thanks for the valuable daily updates Sam ! I can imagine that in the future vehicles will have higher IQ than the drivers. And learning how to drive will become obsolete for human beings in 20 - 25 years.
NOW it is obsolete for human beings to learn how to drive, not in 20-25 years!
I still see people walking, riding bicycles and horses...I bet you can still ride your porsche after fsd
Tesla has these problems,i hope they will fix it,lack of acceleration noise (like ixm60 or taycan line up)too much simplified interior which people dont like,lack of new battery tech,they still use 10 years old ncm batteries,that is why tesla evs dont improve their range because there is nothing new about ther battery pack tech,
It is bonkers what an ordinary man can drive these days. Just have tried Volvo EX30, small city SUV box, two motors, 4x4, 428 hp, 0-100 km/h in 3.6 seconds. All this for "normal" car price, moreover on cheapish side. Basically you are able to excersise unlimited supercar acceleration inside a city, at a 100-200 meters streights. This IS a revolution.
Sam, "more fun to drive" because the car does the boring stuff, and you can do the fun stuff, IF you want to. FSD 12 is just plain fabulous (I admit I am 81, but still have good motor skills). Ver 12.4 continuously startles me as it detects things before I do. It is getting difficult to find anything it cannot do (there are still a few, but these are dwindling!
How about this. An opinion from a customer who has personal experience with fsd. More valuable than the armchair quarterbacks.
Paul, you will not see many. I have been attacked by trolls so many times I stopped posting on anything!
@@FrankOClark ignore the trolls mate. The rest of us are interested in real feedback. Especially from an experienced gentleman such as yourself.
i agree…we will never buy a vehicle without FSD… we plan to get a BMw or Rivian next but FSD 12 changes it. a legit game changer for us for long commutes and daily trips,w family, errands, road trips, etc. my body aches from driving dropped and its also another layer of protection for us w 50k daily deaths per year on the road
I suspect the biggest driver to self driving cars will be insurance. Once insurance becomes less for full self driving, everyone will want it.
The company that owns the software is the one responsible. Why should the owners have to buy insurance for FSD?
@mervstash3692 you can get insurance discounts if cars have certain options. For instance if it has a forward collision warning system you pay less for insurance than somebody who doesn't have it. These discounts can add up.
I don't think everyone will want it. People love driving cars. I know folks including myself that have all kinds of driving features and never use them, not even on trips. It's even more stressful to have to baby sit FSD than to just be in control and paying attention all the time. Humans can often sense there is going to be a problem long before it would trigger a response from a self driving system. Even something as simple as not following a truck dropping rocks is automatic for drivers but FSD won't avoid that or tire hazards or pot holes or bad parts of town.
@frankcoffey obviously not 100% of the population is going to want it. But I was one of those people in the 1980's who had a relatively expensive (> $1000) Motorola bag phone (with Cellular One) plugged into my car's cigarette lighter (I got it for FREE from a friend who had upgraded to a newer better one). Almost everybody back then was saying to me "hey you think you are somebody somehow too important to use a regular phone???" I would reply "it's just something convenient to have..it really is". I would then get a weird stare response back. Fast-forward to today and most people are on the verge of SUICIDE if they don't have access to their cell phone. A downright amazing 180 degree turn! I think there is going to be some rejection of FSD in the beginning (mostly by those who feel it is a silly expensive waste of money...just like the bag phone) but then as the price comes down it is going to be seen as something so indispensable that MOST people will refuse to buy any car without it. I've been through it all before but luckily this time everybody I demoed FSD to has had mostly a positive reaction.
@@frankcoffey I just came back from a 1600 mile road trip.
I got the FSD trial the day before I left.
No way would I want to go on a road trip without it.
If there is a truck throwing rocks on front of me all I have to do it hit the turn signal and the car changes lanes by itself.
It's not more stressful..
So. A small light robotaxi with a 30-40 kWh battery thy can fully charge in 10-12 minutes and go 350km on a charge. Running all day every day. Optimus at the central charging stations to put the plugs in to charge.
Mr Sam Viking, I hate to break it to you but Jensen is just talking his book. He just wants to sell more of his GPU chips and boards, and the best way to do that is if all competitors to Tesla start training their own AI LLMs because they'll have to use Nvidia chips and boards primarily. They cannot afford to design and produce their own gpus.
The thing I don't get about Tesla's approach to FSD using neural nets is why it sometimes fails at basic non edge case driving scenarios. Is this a fatal flaw the way LLMs like ChatGPT hallucinate, which they are struggling to solve? If I was Tesla I would include a robust supervising CPU with backup power, sensors, etc. that would be monitoring what the neural net GPU is doing but using traditional algorithmic that r not likely to fail for basic driving or generally in the same manners, and intervene if it detects the neural net is erring, or failed and shut down, etc. thus about to crash. This would avoid many potential accidents and put a lot of people and the authorities at ease and much more likely to get approval and get adopted. Tesla already has an algorithmic based approach with FSD version 11 so would be easy to implement and having redundancy at multiple levels is a wise idea. Computers suddenly fail all the time, like any OS. Besides, the car could even drive itself while supervised in an emergency if the neural net has failed and using algorithmic CPU, or at the least pull over at a safe spot. Once FSD is mass adopted many younger people may opt out of bothering to learn to drive but would still prefer the freedom of owning a car vs Robotaxi, so having redundancy unlikely to fail in the same ways would be wise to have, maybe required. I know I would make it a requirement if I was a deciding authority. This could make the difference between FSD being safer than humans now vs never or in 10 years. Who knows
I have 2020 Tesla X. Recently I received 30 day trial for FSD. It’s almost killed me twice! First time it had a merge issue on the highway. Another driver did not yield entering the highway and then it got complicated. I had to take over. But even scarier I was heading due west during sunset. Tesla slowed down for a yellow light, but then before stopping it sped up and ran the red light! Luckily there weren’t other cars around! WTF? Is this suppose to happen?
Try and be nicer to our AI overlords next time.
FSD is currently using old non-AI FSD V11 code for highways. FSD V12.5 in July will support highways.
Did you send it to Tesla? I mean the data of this intervention? Then it will be fixed very soon. It is getting exponentially better with your help. Soon it will get the magnitude of orders better than any average human driver and later better than Avery human driver.
@@someuser7501 🤣🤣🤣
@@3nd939n3r in your dreams. how soon? 20 years soon?
Didn't Tesla move away from outsourcing chips to consolidate ensure in house vertical production?
Morning mate
Usually someone else has to comes along and take the technology away to fix it.
Tere will always be the odd ones like many people in my country Romania that refuse to buy cars that don’t have manual gear shifting. Their argument is that this is the only way you feel like driving.
Tesla is still one of Nvidea's largest customers in its datacenters. #Dojo does the 'training/learning, but Nvidea is the 'front-end' processor. For the old-school techies, you might remember the IBM 3270/3705 architecture, combined with the DEC VAX-cluster system.
It's not sufficient to compare self driving accidents with all accidents. It's not a fair comparison because the self driving system doesn't activate in some situations and requires the driver to take over in others. You would have to count all times when the car wouldn't self drive or required the person to take over as an accident to get a clearer picture. That would be unfair in the other direction. We need real criteria that is stated before the results are known. The self driving systems have to do things like pass driving tests, pull over when a police car pulls them over, pull over when a firetruck or ambulance is approaching, let passengers out who want to get out, etc. Reliable behavior under these circumstances is not iminent.
Is there a poll or other indication as to how many people actually want FSD? There are all these assumptions, but what if people will treat it as a video game and not want to pay much for it?
Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Your point being?
@@ElySky95 my point is FSD is fools errands.. Most of AI academics agree that the current crude neural network model is not ever going to achieve AGI no matter how much compute and data you throw at them.
I wasn't sure that FSD was the future until I saw that my elderly mother is using it every day on her Model Y. She used to be afraid of driving in places she wasn't familiar with but not anymore because FSD literally handles 95% of the driving and she handles the rest. When people discover that you can have a robot literally drive you anywhere you want day or night, the game will forever be changed. Right now I believe 90% of the general population has no idea what FSD is.
We know what it is but dont want it.
What else is he going to say? He's selling ai accelerators to Tesla, have to advertise his product
He sells to Chinese automakers too. Auto chips weren't banned.
Level 2 should be good enough for robotaxi.
I’m listening on headphones and every some time I can hear this bang noise like maybe you are biting your desk with and or something like this
2:52 when he says more fun to drive “” I rented a Tesla model 3 long range for 8 days in September 2023 with FSD .. I used the FSD during over 1,500 highway miles on that trip .. when he says “fun to drive” he means in traffic which is stressful and awful .. I figure I’m more likely to get in a crash going slowly in traffic than fast on an open road
I'd love to put the best Nio against the best Tesla with FSD.
Chinese self driving is like: hold my beer
They do still use nvidia chips
Oh wow these are some really encouraging and game changing words from individuals! Let’s forget about any reasonable way to evaluate results. Let’s just sit here and talk about words and anecdotes. Makes sense.
As electric Viking tells us in this video these words and anecdotes ‘vindicates’ the firing of 10-15% of the workforce. This is certainly not a shilling this is just a rational and highly supported claim from a well researched man on RUclips.
Nvidia wants to sell a lot of AI chips to our Lord and savior Elon. Why everybody believes that marketing BS.
Mercedes just don't have the knowhow
they don't know how, but they could learn.
Mercedes Who?
C'mon... There can't be only one way, especially in this area...
I love my EV but I would not want it to drive me.
I really love driving, FSD in my car is pointless, but having driven in the USA, I can understand why they would want FSD.
So I believe the NVIDIA drive will also allow all car makers to achieve autonomy. The problem is currently only Tesla is developing a dedicated robo taxi car which can be mass produced cheaply. So Tesla is really the only legacy car manufacturer who can turn a profit with the robo taxi model. I expect China will develop a competitive robo taxi before any other legacy auto maker.
Just got my first smart phone last year. The only reason my wife and I finally got them is that we know our children will eventually start using them when they get older.
isnt the increase of NVidia Stock over the last 5 years more like 3000%?
While I have not driven it myself, I was a passenger in my wife's self driving trial. I surprised her, but did a better job than she does and it felt good to me.
NVIDIA chips are a general AI solution, not a full self driving solution. Very different.
I now use FSD 90% of the time it just makes driving much safer. It work very very well.
Once FSD is perfected, it will be the death of the auto industry. Self driving electric taxis will be so cheap to operate, it won't make sense for most people to own a car.
I believe Tony Seba made this point.
If you don’t want to be tracked by the gov’t. You don’t get a smartphone….it will be the same with your car.
The government can track me as much as they like because I have nothing to hide. I'm sure they will find me quite boring to track anyway.
If you don't want to be tracked by the goverment don't do illegal stuff
@@jacqueshowell6874 lmfao…. You are being tracked doing legal stuff… that was an incredibly ignorant and naive comment
@@risingphoenix1484 you rather live with no goverment? Good luck with that
Indeed, why would govts track the activities of citizens?
Don't want anyone "making love" in my car if I use it as a robotaxi. Or at least lay down a towel. And it's not a toilet. This is my biggest concern with putting my car on the Tesla Network.
Nvidia CEO says something that will sell more Nvidia products 😮. Shocking!
I’m actually blown away he didn’t roll out the latest Blackwell chips while he was saying everyone can do what Tesla is doing if you just buy this chip.
Because his chip solves on part of the problem. Data is the other. Lots and Lots of data.
See how carefully crafted wording is. Yes Tesla is far ahead of everyone else in self-driving, but it doesn't say how close it is to full autonomy. Just because you are number 1, doesn't mean you are close to goal. That doesn't matter when you are just trying to sell picks and shovels to rake in billions, for as long as people live in delusions that you can take a nap while car is taking you to desination.
Nvidia CEO is not a lawyer… lawyers and tech people are different…especially w “carefully crafted words and documentation”. 25 years ago, do i ever imagine that im going to drive a full EV? let alone 2 in my driveway.. no way…. and now, entire family is 90% or more a passenger only while the car goes to work, school and long road trips without a gas station visit. if u think people a delusional that they can take a nap, im sure folks will say the same thing about mass EV a decade ago… as a daily user of FSD 12, while i see tons are stressed w their long commutes... heck yeah… they are close
@@blackhawkteslatech don't extrapolate EV to self driving. Completely orthogonal problems. AI is a lot farther. My guestimate is at least 20 years away
@@i6power30 already happening NOW w Waymo and others… drop by SF and try for yourself
Difficult for me to say Tesla are doing it the right way if they aren't using stereo vision to use parallax to get depth perception. A single camera cannot do that.
Also, variable resolution would optimize processing speed a lot. We have a macular and peripheral vision for a reason!
Also making love while driving isn't recommended... Take the coffee out of the cupholder first!
Read a little and you will discover that Tesla has 3 forward facing cameras behind the rearview mirror. That's one more than humans use when looking forward. As for rear view, almost all vehicles come with a single rear camera now and most of them display some very accurate lines that bend and twist when the front wheels are shifted....and that seems to work very well.
The only issue that I see with using the camera system is the snow and salt grime in the winter which eventually occluded one or more of the rear/side views and need to be cleaned....but, I'm sure Waymo and Cruise would never have that issue with all those sensors they use? I wish their passengers luck when the vehicle tells them that it can't continue and would like for them get out to clear one of the 20+ sensors.
@@TeslaDo_d I have a Model 3 AWD thanks, and know very well how they work. Having multiple cameras is not the same thing as having stereo pairs.
Try playing tennis or driving with one eye instead of two, and you will understand what i mean.
@@ahaveland How do you think it’s generating the 3D scene when parking or pulling into the garage? How do you think it’s accurately able to show the locations of dozens of pedestrians around the car? If you have a Tesla do you disbelieve your lying eyes?
@@diamond_h0us It's doing it with more computation and work than necessary.
@@diamond_h0us Predators have two forward facing eyes for a reason, to be able to judge distance accurately using parallax.
No crash on FSD, is also because it supervised!
Yes, human plus FSD is safer currently than either alone. Eventually FSD alone will be safest.
@@jamesmcneal1821yet common sense and brains do not go together with the lack of attention spans people have today, so there will be an increase of fsd caused accidents because of the Tesla owners are using it while reading the paper, sleeping and generally being a bunch of retards when they should be paying attention to the road and driving themselves and not letting a program do it.
True. Again today, I will watch my Model Y drive from my driveway at home to the parking lot at work 25 miles away. At which time, I will be required to tap the brake and chose a parking space that is highlighted on the screen. Maybe I won't need to tap the brake when the car stops in the parking lot in v12.4? It's such a pain. LOL!
I want to choose an option on the screen that allows me to exit the car and then it parks itself in any empty space not marked as 'reserved or handicap' while I am walking away.
@@jamesmcneal1821 I doubt that'll ever be the case. I rather expect even supervised self driving to get into crash cos as more people rely on it, the more they'll lose their own driving skill.
Tesla fsd is the best. i have tesla, lightning and rivian. nothing compares to the tesla's fsd.
In things that never happened.....
And the next good news without a big impact on the Tesla share price!
Tesla does use Nvidia chips? Elon said in the last call they do.
in their supercomputers yes..in their cars no.
I could care less about FSD . Driving a Model S Plaid is so enjoyable.
Tesla is a customer. So he has some incentive.
The cost will play a role. Not everyone has $8000 or 99 dollars a month to pay for complete self-driving.
I thought about this as well. I paid for the full package and it hasn't been worth much for the last 2 years, but it was fun. After the v12 release, my car's behaviors and capabilities improved phenomenally. I am watching a near perfect robotaxi drive me around daily. So, to your point, I now believe that Tesla's hardware will be added to nearly all future cars by the end of this decade and the 'ability' for Tesla to take over at any time you wish will be in every vehicle. However, Tesla may offer different levels of autonomy for different prices and the prices could be based on mileage or time.
If Tesla wants to offer L4/L5 driving where they assume all liability for the vehicle's behavior, then the price will be high because the car can then be sent to a destination with no human occupants, or the occupants can sleep, etc.
If Tesla wants to offer L4/L5 'supervised' where the car will drive itself but Tesla has no liability because you have provided insurance info to them, then it can be at a reduced price.
I was caught in a region wide traffic jam in the northeastern US after the eclipse and I was so thankful to have version 12. My car drove itself for 5 hours and patiently travelled the backroads all the way to my home 200 miles away while everyone in 'less' capable vehicles were absolutely stopped on the highways. That's when I thought, "If they all had a way to purchase a 1 day FSD ride to cover their 10-12 hour ride back to the big city for $50 (or less), Tesla would have made $50 million on April 8th alone.
FSD will not be dependent upon the powertrain. It will work in ICE vehicles as well.
I guess at some point we'll have driverless trucks delivering goods!
I have being watching RUclips videos while “driving” on the way to school for last two months.. it’s not future, it’s already happening.
Of course he praise Tesla for a reason! A CEO always act in the interest of their company/shareholders. Two suggestions:
1. He wants Tesla to move back to the Nvidia platform.
2. Tesla uses AI as their method to achieve full self driving. If other car manufacturers emphasize that same method they will likely buy Nvidia.
Elon Musk has been promising FSD since 2014 and yet nothing. Human intervention is still required after all these years later. 😂😂
Nothing….you better look agin
Tesla cuts Model Y production in Shanghai by at least 20% in Mar-Jun.
Yes he is right
The issue I have with the tesla self driving is that they are not promoting criteria for how we will know when it is achieved. Tesla and the whole community is just using anecdotes and feelings to make a marketing argument.
Viking is going to be crapping his pants when he sees how bad Tesla car sales are doing by the end of this year.
Gime chingah, gime ovah...pivot from cars...whaaaa?!
I can't believe you only just thought of sex in robocars.
And how you gonna do that without being belted in?
i thought I heard somewhere that musk will be releasing robo taxis in china later this year?? Around september
No date given
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FSD and AI will be key for the automotive, period. Tesla is the best at it.
This is pretty frightening since Tesla has been promising full self driving since 2019. Literally every year. If this company is way ahead of everyone else, I think I understand what the Nvidia CEO is saying
sounds like a bus driver saying smartphone far better than my toilet paper..........
What do you expect Jensen to say otherwise? Tesla is a client, Elon and Jensen knew each other for years; Jensen is competitive and yet he never talked bad about its competitors.
A US company praising another US company...
Just a small correction.
Please check your facts before publishing
Tesla currently uses N100 and H100 chips amongst others.
There is only one American self driving tech that works and doesn’t have lawsuits and it’s not Tesla!
Who is it?
Guess what................ I don't give a holy shit about "Self Driving" cars. I want a good solid car that I can drive to cover my day to day needs for transportation. Self Driving cars are a toy for the rich to play with. We need a good $20,000.00 car that people can purchase without going into debt they can't afford.
Agreed. And wasn't that originally one of Elon's supposed gifts to humanity. An affordable EV for the masses. Instead of that he produced the garbage cybertruck. Now Tesla are indicating they will move away from private vehicle production altogether.
There's nothing new for 20k
Not saying he's wrong, but Jensen is praising his biggest, longest running customer.
Mobileye saying hold my 🍺
Crash was in 2022
Who's gonna pay $7500 for FSD??
12.3.6 Has 112 miles driven to critical disengagements as per FSD Tracker. That number must be in the hundreds of thousands if not millions in order to be better by 10x than humans. There is still a long way to go, because in the last 8 years, Tesla is not improving this number to what in needs be. Elon is betting the whole company on an unproven technology.
I should have invested in Nvidia 😅
wasn't there this video of Elon Musk a dozen years ago making fun of BYD...this nothing new, they'll catch up, they might not match completely, but they'll definitely get close enough to the technology
Yes, reporters were saying BYD was ready to go global in 2011 with the BYD e6 ( a 100% EV) and Elon Musk laughed saying BYD's tech wasn't ready enough for the world market and they should focus on winning the Chinese car market first before attempting to go global or they will be killed by their Chinese competitors. It's now 13 years later and BYD has only recently started going global after conquering the local Chinese market.
What did Elon promise china to get FSD working there. Did he agree to license or give the FSD solution to the Chinese?
Its evolution, never give in, never give up. Theres the posibility that automonous self driving technology could be franchised out to automotive competitors as a service. The financial benifits are unlimited for Tesla. You would have to be insane not to consider investing. (Nope, i dont have shares, im piss poor broke, unemployed. Only an eduit cant see the future they are aiming for, going to space baby!)
He just talked up all his largest customers, Tesla is one of them- this is a nothing burger 🍔 imo
I saw that self driving video of that Benz it was absolute trash tesla has the best self driving software hands down
Cui bono? Really… in which scenario does NVIDIA sell more hardware and services - LiDAR with stupid software OR massive scale video based Machine Learning 🤔
If the US had to put a 100% tariff on cars in order to prevent competition, that tells you Americans will be paying twice as much for a car as necessary.
Tesla could be a customer for Nvidia in the future so they are going to say nice things about Tesla.
So Tesla’s the best! Like to hear that 24 hours a day?
Jensen had bought alot of Tesla stocks 😅😂
😂😂Tesla's competition is coming All over them self 😂😂
3:09 lol lots of things you could do if you don't have to be the driver
This will age like old milk.
The Achilles heel for Tesla's FSD is the catastrophic failure modes you get with neural net AI. You can achieve statistical success of better overall safety statistics than with human drivers and still have unacceptable performance because when you do fail the car does something transparently idiotic that no human driver would do. Musk could care less - for him statistics are all he requires - but I think regulators and the general public will look for more acceptable failure modes. All you need is some oddly goofy construction site set up and the neural net training may not be sufficient to cover the situation: you need human controls in the car and somebody paying attention - or else failure causing damage and possibly life. Alternatively, you need a more sophisticated form of AI than simply good ol' neural net.
Onvo already eating into model y sales. Yes the game is over
Tesla can enjoy being first in a losing game.
WTF are you talking about
@@timsailors All robo taxi companies are going to fail, none are making money or even within decades of paying for the R&D. And that's if everything goes perfect and we all know it won't.
Tesla has purchased $6bn in Nvidea chips, so some good words were kinda the least Jensen could return.
Does he have Tesla shares. If so, he's just trying to influence the market, just like the Viking.
So many Chinese EV companies relying on Nvidia Drive to catch up to Tesla's FSD. Not sure they are happy he is saying things like this.
Tesla FSD = Level 2.
Everyone else = Level 3 & 4
@mervstash3692 tell us all which specific consumer car models out on the road right now are "everybody else". Vaporware doesn't count. XPeng NGP is the only one I can think of that has both highways and local roads covered.
@@someuser7501 Waymo, Baidu, Mercedes, Audi, Hyundai, XPeng, BMW, VW. Just off the top of my head. All Level 3 & 4.
Tesla = Level 2.
@mervstash3692 As I suspected your head must be on another planet. Vaporware shown in scripted videos but not in the hands of consumers so they can see if it actually "works" doesn't count or we could claim Tesla had a level 4+ FSD system "working" 8 years ago. There are no Audi car models for sale with FSD. The current Mercedes and BMW systems are just for highways and do not work on local roads. The current Hyundai car models only have highway systems and do not work on local roads. BTW .
@@someuser7501 Tesla is the only one calling it FSD. Which is Level 2 autonomy. No mental gymnastics is going to change that fella! Drink that copium!
Tesla and Elon is the bomb of the world
Electric Viking, I think it would be beneficial to start covering Tesla Energy Storage more closely. Elon Musk meeting with leaders in countries like Indonesia, Argentina, and India is a phenomenal sign of their strategic expansion. Tesla aims to expand their Energy Storage business by another 15 times by 2030. Tesla is projected to reach 100 gigawatt-hours (GWh) of storage capacity by the end of this year, with a goal of reaching 1.5 terawatt-hours (TWh) by 2030.
Tesla will need to build many new factories. At the current production rate of 40 GWh per factory, they would need around 35 additional factories unless they scale up the size of each factory. This expansion could generate $500-700 billion in revenue from energy storage alone by 2030.
Tesla is a rather large customer of nVidia (their AI processing isn’t just on Dojo), it’s not too surprising that Jenson is being nice to them.
Exactly... Also, don't you think that NVIDIA would like to sell their A.I. chips to every car manufacturer? This assessment is for their own benefit (even if they are right... we don't know).
Really so you mean it's better for Nvidia to be nice to Tesla and toss back every other car manufacturer customer? Maybe this is a paradox argument, what do you think?
@SertacErbay including their own product "Nvidia Drive". I guess crapping on your own tech somehow improves the stock price.
@@3nd939n3r he wasn’t dissing his other customers, just saying that Tesla were a long way ahead in Self Driving. You could also take that as “You’ll need to buy lots of our shiny new hardware if you want to try to catch them”.
what does he have to gain? He said that every car will need the class of AI hardware that each tesla has. Who will sell them that lol. Use your head. But we all think he is right.