Important to note on Bacha with appo. It can be negated because appo negates activation not the effect being activated. It’s very poorly worded but bacha will not protect that
@@rejeanbrown3621 so bacha says the effects of fusion melodious monsters cannot be negated. But appo negates the activation of the effect not the effect itself. The effect never happens to be negated. I hope this helps
Very nice video man! I was talking about Melodius Chimera a few weeks ago and a lot of my friends sent me your list when you won the Toronto regional! Great job!🍻
The melodious engine in literally any deck is free real estate. You don’t have to worry about shit cause they can’t nib you without giving you a free vortex dragon. At best the melodious package baits 2-3 interactions BEFORE you commit your core decks function. 100% getting super upgrades for this engine in OTS 25
Lol I'm trying to use it in goblin biker I'm currently using the super heavy samurai package to get to therion king regulus but I'm thinking of replacing that engine with this one and when I get the two refrains on the board overlay for spriggans merrymaker into sargas to search for the regulus the only problem would be to make sure I can somehow get a machine into the grave to summon it out but that shouldn't be a problem. I'm just a bit apprehensive cause I have to commit a lot into my extra deck for it similar to the ghost trick package I was running before
I love using the engine in Lightsworn. Not only do you have all the lines and benefits that you outlined in the video, but the scales allow you to Pendulum Summon a bunch of Lightsworn monsters that might otherwise be stuck in your hand. Ever see what happens when a Garroth is allowed to stick on the field? XD
There are ways to use Soprano the Songstress for the dump effect on the scale, which provides another level 4 on board, but obviously puts another brick in the deck. Then you can have the option to go for the new level 8 fusion, which is actually very good imo.
@@ggGio Using the fusion, probably. It atleast has applications in dodging nibiru and targeting effects. It’s random, but using this variation for the extra body, I used Melodius as an engine in Exosister. Since one ostinato gets you 2 rank 4s and some omnis/appo and a magnifica.
You put Gear Gigant X as one of the rank4 XYZ we can make to search but it needs 2 lv4 machines, was it a mistake or i'm missing something? Cause i want to use this engine in Shining Sarc and i need Gadget Trio searcher
Tbh I've been liking the melodious engine a lot in Chimera, but I feel like there are other decks where the engine shines a lot more. A common issue I've been seeing people have is that generally you have too many normal summons in Chimera and little ways to protect your normal since we're in a handtrap heavy format. This means that if you open Refrain instead of Ostinato, your options are cut very short and you have to commit more to a normal summon if you didnt open a way to fusion first for the coatl protect. Still think there's some room for change like maybe cutting back on the refrains or maybe cutting Tamtam.
Judges have been ruling that impermanence/effect veiler vs bacha doesn't negate the effect that special summons but will still have a lingering negate afterwards
@@lifeisadream1992 interesting for sure. It seems like it might be on a case by case basis until YCS Indy then? That's the first I've heard of it being ruled that way
I only think it's not going to see an insane amount of play because none of the best decks need it to be good (like snake eye), and it there doesn't seem to be another deck that utilizes it well enough to compete. I think it'll just keep popping up here and there as a pure deck in top cuts until something is released that really takes advantage of it like a new Pendulum archetype that is all light monsters or something.
Great insight into the combo, thank you! What would be the combo if you open Refrain instead of Ostinato, which seems likely, since you play 3 of them?
Interesting strategy, congratulations also for the result. Can you recommend an alternative to s:p? Unfortunately I still need my kidneys. I'm asking you for advice as I can see that you are quite familiar with the deck and the engine
its tough because there's not really one link on its own that does what s:p does. You could just play beatrice or something in that slot instead? That's probably the next card in line to make it into the extra deck
@ggGio you're completely right, but sadly, it is also the same reason that card is about 100 doubloons. Beatrice was the first coming to my mind. Maybe I'll take 1 cosmic out of the side deck and put 1 copy of Rise to full height or any other useful target. What do you think?
After watching the video, melodious sounds really fun to play, but what are the restrictions with the engine if any? I want to try adamancipator with a melodious package but I am not sure if the combos and lines of play will work as well as superheavy samurai.
The restriction is that you need to start with Ostinato since it needs zero monsters on the board. Also if you draw Refrain instead of Ostinato you'll need to normal summon it instead.
Very nice video m8 - personally I hope it doesnt become the next big thing, cause I like the pure deck - that would suffer if konami has to ban or limit cards...
Yeah, there's another variant of the combo that you can do with normal summon refrain! It doesn't end on as much obviously but its still an apollousa for 2 and either a link 2 or a rank 4 plus a draw and scales. It really depends on what deck you're playing for that to be worth it though (mainly for decks that can make use of the pend summon better)
@@hiddenfog180 Normal refrain, add couplet, scale couplet and search concerto, concerto with both guys for Bacha, Bacha cl1, scales cl2 and summon refrain #2 from deck. Refrain scale eff to send refrain #3 to gy, link for cross-sheep or IP, cl1 bacha on refrain in gy, cl2 concerto to draw, link refrain and the link 2 for exceed, exceed eff for refrain, exceed summon, link again for apollousa for 2, pend summon 2 refrain and make a link 2 or r4
@@ggGio Oh thanks for the explanation. I actually figured out a way to end on that same board but using Dugares instead lol. Can't tell which way is better now
It’s a lot of extra deck requirements which people don’t like (depending on your deck) also I feel like this engine is gonna be outplayed by fiendsmith cause realistically that deck actually doesn’t have any bricks and people tend to look more for the non-bricky engines, if they do hit this deck further down the line I think refrain to 2 might do it tbh
@@KidInari I'm not entirely sure what the PK extra deck looks like these days but if you can fit in the 3-4 extra cards for the combo I don't see why not, seems better than adventure in theory
Important to note on Bacha with appo. It can be negated because appo negates activation not the effect being activated. It’s very poorly worded but bacha will not protect that
good catch thank you
@@ggGio no worries, just a very niche interaction but sure to come up. great videos btw
Explain that better for me please not seeing how appo can negate it.
@@rejeanbrown3621 so bacha says the effects of fusion melodious monsters cannot be negated. But appo negates the activation of the effect not the effect itself. The effect never happens to be negated.
I hope this helps
Oh I see what you're saying. It is indeed very weird
Melodious is the new super heavy samurai engine.
Very nice video man! I was talking about Melodius Chimera a few weeks ago and a lot of my friends sent me your list when you won the Toronto regional! Great job!🍻
The quality of this video is excellent, keep this up man!
I thoroughly enjoyed the pace of this video and info. Much appreciated brotha
youre my new fav yugituber 🙌 SO MUCH CONTENT IN THIS VIDEO!
Gggio can 1v1 anyone in ygo
Except me the final boss
The melodious engine in literally any deck is free real estate. You don’t have to worry about shit cause they can’t nib you without giving you a free vortex dragon.
At best the melodious package baits 2-3 interactions BEFORE you commit your core decks function.
100% getting super upgrades for this engine in OTS 25
Lol I'm trying to use it in goblin biker I'm currently using the super heavy samurai package to get to therion king regulus but I'm thinking of replacing that engine with this one and when I get the two refrains on the board overlay for spriggans merrymaker into sargas to search for the regulus the only problem would be to make sure I can somehow get a machine into the grave to summon it out but that shouldn't be a problem. I'm just a bit apprehensive cause I have to commit a lot into my extra deck for it similar to the ghost trick package I was running before
I love using the engine in Lightsworn. Not only do you have all the lines and benefits that you outlined in the video, but the scales allow you to Pendulum Summon a bunch of Lightsworn monsters that might otherwise be stuck in your hand. Ever see what happens when a Garroth is allowed to stick on the field? XD
What does a Lightsworn / Melodious deck look like?
Wish I could travel over there. Want you to sign my chimera the Illusion Beast.
There are ways to use Soprano the Songstress for the dump effect on the scale, which provides another level 4 on board, but obviously puts another brick in the deck.
Then you can have the option to go for the new level 8 fusion, which is actually very good imo.
I think at that point you might be better off just playing pure Melodious
@@ggGio Using the fusion, probably. It atleast has applications in dodging nibiru and targeting effects.
It’s random, but using this variation for the extra body, I used Melodius as an engine in Exosister. Since one ostinato gets you 2 rank 4s and some omnis/appo and a magnifica.
Well done. I appreciate the detail.
Great Video ! Feedback: Gotta turn up the audio. Max volume and still too silent for me - cheers :)
I have it at 1/4 volume and it's almost too loud. Your problem is entirely just a you problem not the videos.
@@salmonella7993 Oops! Must be my device then? My bad
You put Gear Gigant X as one of the rank4 XYZ we can make to search but it needs 2 lv4 machines, was it a mistake or i'm missing something? Cause i want to use this engine in Shining Sarc and i need Gadget Trio searcher
@@user-mp9pn9bz3z that’s my bad, def an oversight when I was just adding what I thought was generic rank 4s
Tbh I've been liking the melodious engine a lot in Chimera, but I feel like there are other decks where the engine shines a lot more. A common issue I've been seeing people have is that generally you have too many normal summons in Chimera and little ways to protect your normal since we're in a handtrap heavy format. This means that if you open Refrain instead of Ostinato, your options are cut very short and you have to commit more to a normal summon if you didnt open a way to fusion first for the coatl protect. Still think there's some room for change like maybe cutting back on the refrains or maybe cutting Tamtam.
Such a great video, is insane this is only your 3rd.
👏👏👏
More good content is on the way 🙏
Judges have been ruling that impermanence/effect veiler vs bacha doesn't negate the effect that special summons but will still have a lingering negate afterwards
Not sure what judges you're referring to but every event I've seen since LEDE release has not ruled it that way
Here's a link to the Judges Lounge explaining it in more detail facebook.com/groups/judgeslounge/permalink/7436751516392450/
@ggGio all day yesterday, it was being ruled that the bachas activated effect still goes through even with the opponent using imperm/veiler
@@ggGio I asked the head judge before the regional
@@lifeisadream1992 interesting for sure. It seems like it might be on a case by case basis until YCS Indy then? That's the first I've heard of it being ruled that way
Great combos and love melodious! ❤
I feel like we're gonna get a 2nd edition of B.A.S.E.D. with Melodious, Tenpai, Fiendsmith and whatever.
Definitely possible
Melodious Superheavy Fiendsmith Snake-Eye
@@autobotstarscream765 Imagine if that ungodly pile was used in arc-v against zarc lol
I only think it's not going to see an insane amount of play because none of the best decks need it to be good (like snake eye), and it there doesn't seem to be another deck that utilizes it well enough to compete. I think it'll just keep popping up here and there as a pure deck in top cuts until something is released that really takes advantage of it like a new Pendulum archetype that is all light monsters or something.
Great insight into the combo, thank you! What would be the combo if you open Refrain instead of Ostinato, which seems likely, since you play 3 of them?
I have a version of the combo with refrain in my other video about the Toronto regionals! It’s time stamped in the description :)
Interesting strategy, congratulations also for the result.
Can you recommend an alternative to s:p? Unfortunately I still need my kidneys.
I'm asking you for advice as I can see that you are quite familiar with the deck and the engine
its tough because there's not really one link on its own that does what s:p does. You could just play beatrice or something in that slot instead? That's probably the next card in line to make it into the extra deck
@ggGio you're completely right, but sadly, it is also the same reason that card is about 100 doubloons.
Beatrice was the first coming to my mind. Maybe I'll take 1 cosmic out of the side deck and put 1 copy of Rise to full height or any other useful target. What do you think?
@@fracampa903 rise to full height definitely earns a spot in the side if you're playing beatrice thats for sure
Volume for this video is low. Might wanna try to increase the gain next time.
Yeah people have been saying that. It was super loud on my computer so I’m definitely making sure I check better for future vids
Excellent video.
After watching the video, melodious sounds really fun to play, but what are the restrictions with the engine if any?
I want to try adamancipator with a melodious package but I am not sure if the combos and lines of play will work as well as superheavy samurai.
The restriction is that you need to start with Ostinato since it needs zero monsters on the board.
Also if you draw Refrain instead of Ostinato you'll need to normal summon it instead.
Very nice video m8 - personally I hope it doesnt become the next big thing, cause I like the pure deck - that would suffer if konami has to ban or limit cards...
quality content going to sub rn 👌
Can this engine do anything if you don't draw the Ostinato? Otherwise it seems like too many bricks
Yeah, there's another variant of the combo that you can do with normal summon refrain! It doesn't end on as much obviously but its still an apollousa for 2 and either a link 2 or a rank 4 plus a draw and scales. It really depends on what deck you're playing for that to be worth it though (mainly for decks that can make use of the pend summon better)
@@ggGio What's the Refrain combo?
@@hiddenfog180 Normal refrain, add couplet, scale couplet and search concerto, concerto with both guys for Bacha, Bacha cl1, scales cl2 and summon refrain #2 from deck. Refrain scale eff to send refrain #3 to gy, link for cross-sheep or IP, cl1 bacha on refrain in gy, cl2 concerto to draw, link refrain and the link 2 for exceed, exceed eff for refrain, exceed summon, link again for apollousa for 2, pend summon 2 refrain and make a link 2 or r4
@@ggGio Oh thanks for the explanation. I actually figured out a way to end on that same board but using Dugares instead lol. Can't tell which way is better now
It’s a lot of extra deck requirements which people don’t like (depending on your deck) also I feel like this engine is gonna be outplayed by fiendsmith cause realistically that deck actually doesn’t have any bricks and people tend to look more for the non-bricky engines, if they do hit this deck further down the line I think refrain to 2 might do it tbh
Personally from a melodious lover it would kinda hurt if refrain went to 2 but oh well 😂
I have to agree that fiendsmith will outshine this engine once it’s released but for the meantime Melodious is a strong place holder
@@ggGio most definitely, it’s sad that we were so excited for nib to be insane but fiendmsith will just make wave king and laugh
Can you search Ostinato off of Couplet? I'm guessing not.
Thankfully not since it’s not a melodious card
love the rank 7 odd eyes on summon 5. Go ahead, nibiru me, there's nothing you can do about this.
My imagination is telling me to find a way to summon Exodia 😂
Infinite Forbidden is almost here!
This might be a stretch, but could this work in PK? I do like access to my lvl 3s
Absolutely it can
@@ggGio no memeing?
@@KidInari I'm not entirely sure what the PK extra deck looks like these days but if you can fit in the 3-4 extra cards for the combo I don't see why not, seems better than adventure in theory
@@ggGio I’ll test this out. Because of the Horus engine, extra deck is kinda tight
This Engine is legit, 65% chance i am not on complete copeium
My melodious ruined...sigh.
It gives them something to do if they don't open Ties of the Brethren.
Given how cheap this engine is, they are gonna kill it like superheavy samurai...
Definitely a possibility! I think it really depends on how much play it ends up seeing in reality though
Free Scarecrow and ban the FTK enabler!
i hate this so muchhh
Seems like this engine will quickly be dealt with on a banlist. It was clearly an unintentional mistake