This dude spends 100k on a mobile game and makes a video bragging about it, meanwhile I throw 20 bucks on a mobile game and I spend the rest of the week feeling like I ruined my life financially.
Lmao this statement is beyond truth. It amazes me how there are people out there dropping that much money on a game they will cast aside in a year or two. I hate when I spend $10-$20 cause I know I likely will only play it for a few months, if that even... Actually invest that money or give some to me bro. Give money to people instead of meaningless gems in a game.
yup. I bought a LoL skin ONCE and I've regreted spending that money for years. Can´t even phatom why this people spend thousands, evend hundreds on a video game.
I kind of wonder how he has this much money to spend in the first place (not just on Diablo, but in other games he's played). Imagine if he invested the same thing in Real Estate.
Diablo shit mortal, already made 6 million dollards in less than a week, there are a lot of suclers out there, a lot, that is why gaming is dying, no one want good product, i mean come on, i was watching overwatch 2 reveal yeasterday and gameplay is the same, the single player campaing the selling feature of the game, not appear, and the change to the characters, more diversity and inclusion, please, gaming is dead, is gone
Well it’s not a scam if the person spending the money knows what he’s doing I mean he knows he put 100k into the game and he kneels why he did it this guy is just really dumb for doing it and that goes for all the whale they no what there doing
Except it's not really a scam ... It's just really really really anticonsumer monetization *can't say bad because its actually working for some dumb reason*
"Rich went 44-0 because he was a whale going against f2ps" "Paying in this game doesn't give you an advantage over F2p" This guy's not a clown, he's the entire circus
I dont even think rich ppl will play this game. There are other things they can spend time and have fun. Mostly poor and middle ppl who cant control his/her addiction will spend this much money and go broke.
He is investing actually. Think like this: He is paying 100k, for what? To create a Twitch Audience. Would you know about this guy, if he spent 30$? No. But because he spent 100k, not only we know about him, and him being a Streamer, but he also managed to lure Asmon into this scheme. He would not Put a Target into himself if it wasn't for this, he want's the attention, that's the return of his investment, a Community. Wanna know how much that is worth? Way more than 100k, Streamers can make Millions per Year. It's an Investment, a risky one, but a smart one as well. And if he managed to grab Asmon, it's working.
Invest... And what do you get back... Fun? Well I invested in $10-$30 games on sale and got the same s*it, he sounds like a bad financial advisor to me.
@@raphaelmerino100 That's a fair argument, and that may be the case for this guy, but for 95%+ of those spendng big money on the game, it won't be. It also might only work for this guy, I would argue, because of his underlying gaming prowess. Spending big on games doesn't build a big or loyal audience. Being excellent at games is what keeps people around. If he can move on to a game and be great without money, the crowd will remain. If he is mediocre without money, people will move on. Or he'll just have to stick to games where he pays to be great, and hope his royalties make it worth it. Most youTubers have a short career of success. Almost none of those I as watching 5 years ago I still watch.
I get that it's an expression, but it has to be that way. Otherwise, you'd be convincing people that they were fooled when they weren't, thus fooling them and arriving back at the original statement.
it really boils down to him just having an addiction to spending and gambling. the game is literally just a worse version of diablo 3 which is 15 years old and doesnt require you to spend thousands of dollars to push content lol
Did you even watch the fucking video? The guy paid at his own will because he likes the stuff, as well as every other mobile game he played. Stop making it look like someone is forcing anyone to pay for the game and it is some kind of ploy which every whale falls for. You are delusional.
@@Joseph-R But that's not the question that will be asked at the next IB. What will be asked is: "How much did it cost to make this "Game" and how much did it make in return? If the later number is bigger (hopefully not by a small margin, fingers crossed there are enough gullible suckers out there) stock price will be more likely to rise.
And consequently that guy is precisely the reason why OW2 is dead. Blizz's profit expectation changed thanks to whales, and they stopped supporting OW2 PVE because of it.
@@DawnAfternoon lets be real. NOBODY relevant gave a FUCK about overwatch pve. They lost all the people with any sense when they introduced brigitte into the game.
Just look at pubg mobile. It's normal for mobile players. Mobile Players seems to have a lot of money compared to pc and console players. That's the reality now, like it or not.
Hearing this guy's arguments legit make me wanna cry. How can someone be so disconnected from reality and shove 100k+ Dollars into a game. The fact that he says it's the "best" mobile-game he has ever played show that the bar for mobile gaming just isn't very high.
Not surprising this scam is the "best mobile game ever made!" most mobile games are literally false adverts to trick you into watching other ads before you realize its a reskin of some generic shit heap crapped behind a giant ad wall and you delete the game. The bar for mobile games is really really fucking low.
It's not even close to being the best. There're tons of actually good mobile games that don't try to exploit you at any turn, including indies made by passionate people who got sick of these practices.
Man the damage the industry has done to this mans gambling addicted brain and the way he justifies it is actually so fucking sad to see :/ The world needs to catch up with gaming scams
The world needs to hear dumb people like you, to separate the sane people from them. He is clearly willing to pay and is able to pay for whatever he wants, because he is a grown man and can do whatever he wants with his life, because he enjoys something, I can see your jealousy coming off. If you define a scam as "well, there is a shop, where you can buy stuff, how could they come up with this multi-level insane ploy" then every single shop in the world is a scam by your definition. And, you are very clearly informed with texts and info for what you are about to pay for. I guess learn to read first.
@@keonkla I have no idea what you are talking about. The guy is clearly enjoying the game, he tells about a lot of people he knows regardless of how much they paid enjoying the game. Me myself enjoy the game, I'm currently ranked 1 in battlegrounds PVP on my server with battle pass and boon of plenty only ($15). If the game is not for you - don't play it, it's that simple.
The grind vs pay buffs are incomparable. It’s like a human and a saiyan. Every battle makes the saiyan exponentially stronger vs the human getting experience and being blocked off from zenkai boosts
@@CongoTheBongoyour watching a video from a twitch streamer who makes all their money playing games on the internet, reacting to a video talking about PC vs mobile gaming. EVERYONE here is a massive nerd, you included.
The way he referred to his addiction as "The itch" made me incredibly sad. There are people who are paid incredible amounts of money to develop ways to exploit human psychology. It's sad man.
@@ThwipThwipBoom gaming has devolved into simple gambling. While other places in the world are banning games like this and loot boxes, at least it'll always have a home in the good USA.
He just mentioned 13 real life friends. He's gotta be pushing 40. Only douchebags and liars say they have that many real life friends at 40. Assholes can make an infinite amount of friends because they have zero standards. I've barely met that many people in my life who were worth being friends with. Most people are awful. Yeah, he might have a lot of friends but don't invite any of them to your house because a week later you will come home and all your stuff is gone.
@@ThwipThwipBoom unfortunately, this system basically means that meaningful changes will skip a generation every cycle. At least it seems that way considering the people handling out important affairs likely couldn't tell you what an address bar is. It's pathetic and the positions are far too profitable. Positive change shouldn't be reliant on the deaths of these old fools.
Sad part is that these type of guys are ruining it for the rest of us, I don't mind to pay 60 bucks on a good mobile game and even a 10 dollar sub fee if the game is good, but having to deal with P2Win people on a PvP game, to hell with that...
The "itch" he referred to is the psychological manipulation to spend money. Computer games are commonly less predatory, but that is, sadly, starting to change.
@@jamesmaybrick6750 well if count all the game that has been release esp pc/console gaming then yes it is less predatory even with dlc and by some extent mtx. Mobile gaming especially gacha base are pretty much predatory since from the beginning, always have been an issue it is just it starts to bleed in to the pc gaming sphere ever since OW start the lootbox train.
Spoken like a true addict. It's like listening junkie to tell you that spending all his money to drugs hurts no-one and he is having the best time of his life. Oh, and the dealers are really the good guys... you just don't understand because you don't know how to have fun.
it's like talking about weed on reddit. nobody can seem to admit that it's actually less healthy than simply not doing it at all, and even if you argue the perks of a sober mind, suddenly everyone "knows a guy who's super rich who does weed." I've seen more than enough addicts to know this
You don't need to draw a stupid line between drug addiction and it. It's bad enough on it's own. It takes advantage of people with mental illness. Another thing, the drug dealers and the drug addicts aren't the 'bad' OR 'good' guys. They are just people like you and me, under different circumstances. Some of them are bad, some of them are good. All of them are bad sometimes, and all of them are good sometimes.
Companies should just increase the Pay to Win. Like, make 'endgame Soft Cap' free to play players can reach in 1 month cost just $100k then the Hard Cap fully Geared cost 10 million dollars. And then the top endgame, cost 1 billion dollars. I would like to know which 'Whale' reaches those numbers and is still proud and defends the game. We look at these Whales as big spenders but ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, they are spending just a little money. And it doesn't affect them. Like regular Americans spending 10$ in a game. It's little money.
that fact that he said "invested" destroyed my soul. even if i take ALL of my wow sub payments, all consoles and games i ever bought, my entire steam account and every single skin purchase in league or hots together, i wouldnt even be close to 10k, and i have played video games for 25 years, basically 4-16 hours every single day. that guy is fucking insane
You can check your whole money spent in league and steam iirc and you'd be suprised how much it is :D Probably not 10k but it's too much if you think about it
must be nice to have 100k to blow on stupid shit. Guy's like this are so disconnected from the reality of the world. when you can blow 100k on a mobile game and then call it an INVESTMENT when you're getting nothing out of it is just sad.
Dude, if i grab every spend i made nearly all mi life, not videogames everithing, i cant even be close he spend in that piece of crap, with sub par grafics, and i want to see what games he play i play mobile in the last what one and a half year two maybe
I respect that this person seems honest and genuine, they're just too deep in the rabbit hole and have completely deluded themselves. Like they're not lying about anything, they're just inhaling massive amounts of copium
It is amazing hearing people say they "invested" money in microtransactions I was feeling sick in my stomach everytime this guy started to justify and defend the game's monetization
@@pennyisdreadful You should stop trying to twist things to try and defend this game. He said he's getting "sick" when he hears people who spend real life money on power in games and call it "investing". You "invest" into microtransactions just like you "invest" into a scam coin.
Sorry if my original post was poorly written. That is exactly what i meant, I am not playing this, just following the stories, and today I watched Asmond live when he saw this one.
@@Tooamazin yeh like if you invest, i think normally you'd expect a return maybe you lose maybe you gain but you get something back. with this you get nothing you can't get the virtual items back to real money atleast not legitimately
Every time that guy tells "I have invested money into the game" I am blown away. You do not INVEST real money into the game to just play, you're PAYING for content, not for financial profit in exchange.
Don’t you “invest” time into a game? I know people who have invested over a decade into wow. Time you can’t get back for a video game. How is that “better” than spending money. Saying spending money on a game is dumb but spending years is totally okay. Some people can’t invest that time or choose not to. Rather than put down what they do in comparison to what you do, you could see that they’re getting enjoyment in the end just like you
This guy is severely disconnected from financial reality. Guess this is what happens when you have too much disposable income and forget or never knew what it is like to be paying the bills.
"There is no distinct difference between F2P and P2W", "The only way to get to the top end is to pay" and "The only difference is the P2W get better gear" all within minutes of each other.... The copium is unreal; like how delusional can one person be?
This guy is Blizzard's target audience. They love people like him who will dump hundreds of thousands of dollars into a game and defend it. This is why mobile games are heavily pay to win. It's because people like him dump so much money into it and defend the decision to abuse players like this. It's like that person you know who's clearly in an abusive relationship that they not only never leave and keep going back to the abuser and defending the decision to do it. It's called Stockholm syndrome; and this guy has it in spades.
Keep in mind that he HAS to defend diablo immortal because if he doesn't and the game dies due to lack of players from poor word of mouth, the 100k he spent on it is essentially worthless...which it is.
@@Threat_LvL Not if you spend it on real assets. Not in a computer game but a piece of art or a house or stocks in a company. Then it just becomes more valuable over time due to inflation.
This dudes arguments is basically "I enjoy buying my way to the top and being better than everyone because of my wallet." literal vile consumerism that the mobile gaming market preys on. This dude is the perfect player all those mobile games BEG to have on their game.
Pay to win? More like pay to not play the game. I never understood why people want to pay to skip content, pay to not have anything to play for. For what? So you can feel good about killing someone who had 0 chance against you? And somehow in ur lil inbred brain you feel better then that person? By what logic may I ask? 2022, still monkeys around me left n right. And they ask me why I'm depressed in a world filled with inbreds. Asmon is no better. He loves to brag about not gambling etc, but fails to see that's exactly what he did with Lost Ark. He bought materials to gamble. Then he continued that with Diablo Immortal. And he fails to see that he is apart of the problem, then goes to talk about he did it for the stream like it changes anything at all. Something happens to a person when they become rich. And it's very ugly. It shows their true colors don't it.
Can I just say that I love watching and listening to all the storys you have to tell and the reactions on other video's. Honestly besides learning a lot, Im really enjoying your video's. You earned a sub!
@@TeritotheLegend investment provides return that should be more than money that was put in. not spend $100 and have $1 as return. that's not investment.
and there are some bleeding hearts who think this guy is a victim. Nah he is a pampered man child. hope he blows through so much funds he becomes homeless . Can't believe these parasites ruin it for other men and woman with self control.
"Me being a pay to play, how does this affect the game of a free to play player?" I will tell you. Because you pay insane amounts of money for the game, you literally incentivise game makers to create games exclusively made for you. You incentivise game makers to add monetization to everything. And this isnt even just mobile games, it clearly isnt, we have seen how this has been creeping more and more into PC games. It used to be that if I bought a game for 50 bucks, I had a game, with everything in it at my disposal, where I could play to unlock achievements, often in the form of skins. Then they started making skins pay to play only. Then they started adding customisation just to increase the amount of payment ppl do. And its obvious why. If you pay 100k on a single game, just think how many copies at 50 bucks that is. You singlehandedly pay the same amount that 2000 other players would spend on a tripple A title. That means any player who drops 50 bucks on a game only pays 0.05% of what a single whale pays. Or to turn it around. 0.05% of whales pay the same amount of money as the entire rest of the playerbase. Why on earth would any company care for the rest of the playerbase, if they can instead try to get more whales. Double the amount of whales and you get 50% more profit. And for most games that only means to get a few hundred or thousand whales into the game. So it very much so affects the average player. Cause games companies would rather build casinos for ppl that dont know what to do with their money, than to create fun video games. Especially as a lot of people never had this type of money to spend on games in their entire life. I have like 100 bucks a year to spend on video games. And these insane purchases from people that have too much money are the reason why those 100 bucks are increasingly worthless. I can buy less and less games, and get less and less content in the games I do buy. And this is just the systemic issue behind this bs. The fact that these types of games systematically take money from children who literally cant afford it pushing entire families into financial ruin is the cherry on top of all this nonsense.
Agreed. Last part though is somewhat irresponsible parenting. There's plenty of options to restrict children's ability to spend within app and play store.
"I simply enjoy spending ridiculous amounts of money to show my rank vs being ranked by skill." is absolutely a mindset that should seek professional help for so many issues...and the companies who prey on people like him should be held accountable for their deception and greed.
I don't to me this is what being a man child is and if anything he ain't running out of money if he is throwing away money like that. If he does blow through it hopefully he ends up homeless and hungry.
Lmao imagine feeling sorry for a guy that can spend 100k or more on a video game. It mean he isn't poor and 100k isn't mean anything for him lol why would you feel sorry for him, do you feel sorry for every rich man that spend million on a car or some mansion that too big for 1 person to live in ?
As soon as I hear that someone "invested" money into the game I write them off as delusional. If you're engaging in doublespeak right from the start, its probably already too late for you, the game companies got you.
@@dubstepXpower I actually have them on my watch list, not that I'm going to buy any anytime soon. Was curious about how far they might drop with all the negative things surrounding them. xD
Yeah all he had to say is you don't have to spend a dime. You're just paying to skip the grinding. That's all it really is. It's not like it forces you to pay to climb or rank up.
He lost his argument the moment he said "I invested." I think people like this don't have a problem because they feel like the money they spent is the accomplishment. They "invested" the money, so they get the greater reward.
He literally invested because his stream are growing up which can return his money in long term...and yes he is growing bcs he is ultra whale in Diablo Immortal. Deal with it.
@@Jookeerrr11 I dont think people will be interested in the long run. He is not charismatic, diablo immortal probably wont be a very popular game for streaming. Also he just started streaming, no way he is gonna make 100k back this year.
The FACT that he just COMPARED being the highest rank in CS GO a 100% skill dependent game 0% pay to win with Diablo Immortal a mobile game that is 100% pay to win, just shows how out of touch this man is...
Lol I wrote the same comment before reading this. And if you watch the whole video this guy is so entitled and ignorant as a rich boy, he perfectly underlines the stereotype of being rich in a capitalist world, he just doesn't get it, to him everything is fine, he doesn't see any problem :)))))
if you pay over 100.000$ for a video game, no matter how rich you are, you are not only out of touch. in my eyes this is completly stupid. i didnt know it is so easy to rob rich people - wtf
@@chrishunter1109 clothing, cars accessories you name it I see most people with this problem. I bet you have a pair of Jordan's laying around that you spent 200+ on.
11:20 He's trying to reason his way through what Rich was able to do but he's basically admitting that you can buy your way to being the equivalent of a global elite player in Diablo Immoral lmao
He can't even see the obvious logical flaws in his own statements. It's almost not even worth debating someone who only applies a singular layer of thought in their argument
Seriously though if you've spent over 100 on a game, you're an addict. 100,000.. shit you could have bought a Ferrari to share rides with your family for decades. Bought a family trip for 10k and got lifetime memories for EVERYONE going. Or paid most of the college debt for two kids. Down payment on a house etc. This is the DEFINITION of SELFISH. Got nothing but bytes to show for it and only an experience you can share by yourself.
@@saveyoutub A few hundred (or even 2000-3000 if it's over a long time) I can justify, if that game actually has content, and you're spending on the game itself and not to gain some advantage. For example I've easily spent 200-300 on WoW just on expansions and subs in about 2 years, or around 120 on FFXIV in a year, but I got thousands of hours of fun out of it. The difference is that I was paying to extend my playtime and not to reduce it, and it was over longer periods of time and not in a week.
Congrats at helping Blizzard pay their court cost and legal fees as well as law suits. No way should you have to spend thousands of dollars (or even 100s of dollars) to enjoy a game and such
I think it's understandable if you have to spend around 60 to 100 dollars (That's the total amount so if the base game is 60 if you spend extra 40 to get extra things Thats ok) Because that the game cost .
@@Faissal-zg8pb even that's questionable and then this guy is spending hundreds of thousands like holy shit i can't even pay my college, you're over there spends thousands to have the fun you could get with 60$
"It only cost me 50k to get a maxed out character - it's not much compared to other games." I've maxed out multiple characters in multiple games for only $60 each. This guy just isn't part of reality.
I know right :D you can even max out characters for much cheaper than that. And imagine that you can actually even play the game while doing so instead of just opening boxes and other random popups while your wallet is crying.
$60 each GAME, not each CHARACTER. I hate how mobile games are so efficient at making money with so little effort. Those companies spend $1 to make $1000, while a good company making PC single player games (like Horizon Zero Dawn, Elden Ring or Sony Spider-man) may have to spend $100 to make $1000.
Imagine giving your opinion on a predatory game while admitting you have a gambling addiction to the point he gets "the itch". He should have posted the video with the title "Rehab please help me".
I absolutely love the word "Invest". You have used 100k to find some sort of happiness in a game. The jitter in this guys voice shows that he knows this is incredibly fucked up. its an addiction and this guy is trying to justify what he did. PC gamers want to buy a game and have fun, maybe buy a few skins throughout the process. We like to use skill and theory crafting to get better. 16 Days since launch. its costing this guy 6250$ a day to have fun. let that sink in.🤯🤯🤯
Came here for this. Every time he says he “invests” makes me want to see his stock portfolio. That $16,666.00 he has just sitting in his account is worthless 1s and 0s.
I am happy that Asmongold is talking about this dangerous stuff on his stream while hundreds of thousands of people are watching him. He is raising awareness about the right things
@@Notyourbusinesschap A guy spending a lot of money in a video game is a novelty he needs something to keep the viewers, or to just have an entertaining show personality.
of course, this video alone will make asmon and him way, way more than that laughable 100k he spend. people have 0 clue, thats why its so easy to make millions of dollars
That kind of mobile game is like drugs. 'Pay to win' makes you feel better than 'Free to win'. Game makers focus on how to make you addicted in gambling and empty your wallet instead of making good game contents. There're so many mobile games like that in my country China, even some online pc games.Although they're shits, there're still many players being addicted to it and throwing lots of money. $100,000 is not that much comparing to chinese 'pay to win' players. Spending more than $1,000,000 is not rare to see.
"I'm a gambler" "get that itch" dude just inadvertently admitted he has a gambling problem with this video which is exactly why he loves the game so much, he doesn't even realize he has a serious addiction thats being 100% exploited by blizzard, I honestly feel bad for these people I was a drug addict for years and blizzard is exactly like the dealers that would keep pushing me away from getting clean...😔
yeah this whole diablo immoral situation is just another name for your typical drug dealers feeding drug addicts for profit but worse because the world governments doesn't treat this threat seriously like how they treat drug cartel.
@@kukuhimanputraraharja8084 absolutely right, ODing when it comes to gambling addiction isn't as cut and dry or obvious as say heroin but it can be just as harmful, it more looks like someone losing every penny they have because they literally can't stop until they have nothing left and taking their own life as a result because not only do they at that point have nothing and no1 left but they can no longer feed "that itch" they have that they feel was the only thing that brought them joy
Mate, there's no dealers that are pushing you from getting clean lol. What do they do? Rock up at your house and make you smell the drugs? Sounds like a good way for them to get a quick trip to the slammer. It's actually hilarious watching people comment on drug abuse equating it to microtransactions pretending they actually know anything about either, if you want to pull people's heartstrings do the obvious and true thing, which is; these systems extort the mentally ill. That is a fact. That is concrete. You don't need to draw a stupid line between drug addiction and it.
18:21 "When you've only played PC games, you don't understand that itch that mobile gamers have in all the different ways they enjoy the game." It's easier to tell yourself that you are a 'mobile gamer' instead of a gambling addict.
@@synthiandrakon also if you spend 100k at a casino they're going to give you multiple thousands of dollars in comps, probably a free suite for the weekend, hell the games manager might even let you fuck his wife for buying him a new car. Additionally that 100k could lead to winning a few hundred grand - million dollar jackpot or mini jackpot. Depending on what you're playing. Or give you the bankroll you need to sit out ur bad beats card counting / learning other poker players betting/hand ranges and how they play so you can exploit their tells and make a profit
The profit this game has made thanks to dudes like this is chilling. It really does feel like gaming is moving in a direction we have little hope of coming back from.
I wouldn't say that. There will always be outliers like this but the backlash over this has been astounding which is a good thing. Everyone is actively shitting on this model. Think gaming will continue to improve but money grabs like this will come and go. Mobile gaming will always be p2w though
No, no, we are just pc plebs and we don't understant that this is how mobile gaming is. I frickin love how whale is no longer enough, we now need the new term of mega whale. Because that's just how mobile gaming is.
@@blan_27 even with the backlash the game is making incredible profits for Blizzard, even if the gaming community at large admonishes these practices, as long as they are allowed people will whale and more games like this will be made.
This guy is delusional. Paying for gear and armor is in no way a show of any skill. players in CS:GO and other competitive games that don't have Pay to Win didn't get to the top of the leader boards with their wallets. They worked and trained hard to get where they need to be as to Diablo Immoral the high rated players got to the higher ratings because their money got them there. I bet if there was no pay to win, they would be in the bottom of the leaderboards.
Him having to leave cs competitive scene might actually explain his current acceptance of p2w mechanics, since he can now stay on top by just throwing money into the monitor and fulfill his childhood dream
How did he get level 99 in hardcore Diablo2? I never got that because it requires 8 person Baal runs. I was strong enough to solo an 8 person Baal run but all the public runs were full of hackers that would try to kill you with hacks and exploits. Did he pay money for runs? I never really cared if I capped out at 95. How much money did he put into Diablo2? I used D2JSP all the time too, it was great. But I never put a dime in. I earned my forum gold by farming. Sounds like he was always using his credit card and buying stuff. It's not impossible to do legit. I guess you could make friends. And host private Baal runs. But I hate making friends. Lot of extra work for 4 extra skill points that I didn't need. Also he said under 18 dueling. It was under 20. I think that was a Freudian slip.
Actually, I'd say that he has resigned to the fact that he will open his wallet to get to the top of a game that free to play players can't get you even if they grind for years. He even says, he's a gambler and so instead of craps or roulette, he plays predatory mobile games.
@@dakawans83 To each their own, the guy stated that he greatly enjoys what he gets from spending. I (and probably you from your post) don't agree. But it becomes obvious that this guy is of a different mindset and is willing to spend a lot of money for instant gratification.
@@dakawans83 But it does. He's better than you or me or any F2P player and he wins pvp matches and stuff. That justification is enough to make him cope with the fact that this is probably the only time he sees himself happy in life.
Funny thing is I have been a PC Gamer since 486 days and I understand that this is purely a Cash Cow for Blizz. They know it and don't care. What I care about is the fact they cared when it was Gold Farmers on WoW doing it without them making money.
Filthy PC gamers. Wanting to max out characters by playing the game for months or years! Instead of paying 50k, maxing it out all in 2days and moving to different game. Thats some efficiency right there!.
@@solhigh1 the same company that let botters bot NONSTOP in the burning crusade classic. Who cares about the games economy, those botters were still paying 15$ a month.
This guy is the perfect target for diablo immortal. Justifying his addiction with explaination why this is bad and still says it's not bad... If this game has no F2P players this person won't be playing this game. They won't like it be whale Vs whale game, it'll be dick measuring contest.
@@attention_shopping well its really easy, he says he enjoys to max out the character and fight at high level with everything maxed out. Well I enjoy it as well and most people do, but the game prevents me from doing so if I don't spend ridiculous amounts of money. Why can't I max out as well? why can't I use my skill and grind the reach the max ranks? what he forgets is competitive players can't have fun if they cant compete. A p2w game you can't compete, and no, I don't care about competing with other silvers, I want to be high rank, and money shouldn't be the main factor for me to climb the ladder.
I've played gacha for several years and the mental gymnastics these people do is mind boggling. Somehow they don't seem to understand that just because they have fun doesn't mean it's good or couldn't be better for the consumer. Stuff like "the itch" he's talking about is literally addiction to a flawed genre. It's like smokers justifying their need to keep smoking because otherwise the withdrawal symptoms will show. It's an addict's reasoning and they can't see that themselves.
@@johnjack3578 it is objectively not good, and having fun doesn't change that in the slightest. having fun doesn't mean that it's not shit, it just means that you don't see the obvious issues or you're actively trying to ignore them.
@@johnjack3578 Let me put it in a way that your bird brain can comprehend it. Good for him ≠ good for the industry. Who gives a fk about whether they're having fun. They can have fun spending money on an obscure flash game all they want. What everyone care about is this is showcasing a bad model that more and more developers will adopt, because why these idiots exist. So in future, we might end up in a situation that we can't even finish any freaking game without spending $100k on it.
@@johnjack3578 Because the fun is produced through dopamine hits, which are hidden behind monetisation. The same case is true for straight-up gambling, but since gacha and similar mechanics aren't recognised as gambling, the companies behind it have 0 responsibility or morality to adhere to. That's why it's such a predatory genre and it's come to the point where people have not only accepted it, but even started defending it as a practice. Once you're down that deep, you don't care anymore how you get it. You just want the same, quick hits of dopamine mobile games provide. To me this is nothing other than addiction, and I say that as somebody who was exactly at that point and decided to quit for that reason.
@@johnjack3578 the problem is that he contributes financially to the game, making it more successful, and thus supports future games with microtransactions as predatory as this one. We aren’t saying he shouldn’t be having fun, we are saying he shouldn’t have to spend $100k to have fun.
@@Ziegfried82 not even a casino game, a casino type game gives you a chance to earn money back (selling your account, real money item trading) an example is CS:GO lootboxes skin trading. this is just a money drain
The only game I spend money on regularly happens to be a mobile game. PoGo is kinda my sink spot, I have agoraphobia and a lot of the time for me the only way to play the events is buying remote passes for raids. So I end do end up spending more then I’d like faster then I realize cause it’s gambling at that point if your going for a shiny. I haven’t spent nearly or even a fraction of the money in this video but for my income and means it’s enough for me to notice.
@@swaggadash9017 imagine renting 60 to 100 hours of movies (entertainment). Pretty sure you would reach 60$ fairly quick no? 60$ for a game isn't outrageous at all... they have to make something.. Are there some bad examples of 60$ games not worth it... sure. Still can't hand these things out for free. Don't know many folks who work for free
@@swaggadash9017 well then by that logic you should wait 5+ years to play games and it won't be so pricey. When a movie comes out in theatres you don't spend 8$ to get 1000's of hours worth of content. you spend 20$ for 2 hours. Sounds like you are more interested in something like steam where they make LOADS of unplayable games for real cheap. Well i guess you may want to download Steam? Now i will admit none of these are really direct comparisons as there are employees and time to make / production costs to make any of this. Would i pay 60$ for candy crush??? NO. There are also standards for these prices. Just tell me what's a fair price for a game that has taken 6 years to make with 100s of people dabbling their feet into it. you think 20$ is fair price for something like that? That sounds insane to me, you would never see a good game again because no one could afford to make. Games were fair when they were 60$ and not 100,000$ imo, id argue my points i just made dont really make it an opinion but eh. whats a fair price then? To go Golfing you would spend 60$ on just decent courses and that probably won't get you a golf cart, more looking at 80$. All just for 5 hours of fun and something you cannot keep in your posession (you are paying for more than just being there same as gaming)
You'd think a former CS professional would be immune to this kind of bullshit, because that's a completely fair skill-based game (assuming you follow tournament rules).
He's chasing the feeling of being the best on a game. From the sounds of it he used to be in the top 1% of gamers back in the day but is likely nowhere near that now that he's 32. So how does he satisfy that itch of reliving his glory days? Whaaaaaallliiiin out on mobile games.
You'd be surprised of how many hims are out there. People who have no time or skill and compensate, and the sad part is that's the exact reason it works. It's really easy to compete and be in the top 10% when by paying you eliminate 95% of the playerbase. It really makes them feel someone
You can still be one of the best at 32 without paying hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm 35 and still consistently in the top 2% of whatever I play seriously. Fluid intelligence barely declines at all until you hit like 60 years old and my reaction time is still as fast as Shroud's lmao.
@@philj8205 You are full of it. Cognitive ability, plasticity, and kinesthetic intelligence significantly drop as you age. There's a reason why you don't find a bunch of 30+ year olds in sports, and why adults have difficulty learning a new language.... Can a 30 something year old still be a top player? Yes, of course, but they are still significantly worse than they were at 22. It's just biology. There is no beating it. Does it suck, yeah, but it's just a part of life. Also important to know is that some things, like reaction times, degrade differently for each person, and there is not much you can do to change that. Even if you take two pros with identical reaction times, who practice and train every day, one might only increase ~10% when turning 30 versus when they were 20, while the other might have a 25% increase in reaction time. It's not that the second person is bad or worked less hard, it's just biology. But either way, everyone will slow down significantly by the time they are 30...
@@jakubmarz You can make millions on Twitch. Don't forget streamers with just a few hundred viewers manage to make a profit on stupid money sucking games like Hearthstone.
I do not have any respect for mobile game addicts like him. He does not know anymore whats ok and whats normal for us normal people with normal jobs and normal salarys Edit: Look at his channel. Another addict with Mobile Games only with so much Gacha i get broke just looking at them alone.
"You simply can't pull out your device and play diablo 2 or diablo 3 while you're in the airport" Bro is throwing away $100k instead of $300 for a switch and buying diablo 2 & 3
With modern game streaming you can literally do that if you have a decent signal or good wifi. Just pull out the phone and stream whatever game you want to play, minor latency isn't a big deal in a game like diablo anyway.
I know, that i would sleep a hell of a lot better at night, if i had 100k just laying around. And i also know, that i wouldn't waste it on a bloody mobile game. ... but i also know, that with me, that kind of money would last decades before i ran out and this guy essentially just went ahead and burned it
@@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148 fr spending even $100 on a MOBILE GAME still seems absolutely ridiculous. I’ll never understand how some of these people live like this
ye and he will make a million with this investment, just like asmon makes with this video right here right now, thanks to you and me, creating traffic = money
Imagine being so stinking rich that spending 100k on a video-game is peanuts whilst people have to live on the streets, children starve, people ruining their future with debts because they can't pay for their medical bills or literally dying because they can't afford their insulin and STILL think everything is fine. That pathetic dude spent 100k on literal virtual pixel garbage of no value whatsoever whilst other people struggle financially on a daily basis. I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror anymore if I was him.
@@FeuerblutRM I don't judge him for spending $100k on microtransactions, filthy rich people spend on much worse things. If I was rich enough to use 100k as pocket change I'd probably do the same, but I don't think it's something to be proud of OR something to encourage. This isn't something to show off as a badge of honor. If you enjoy it and you can afford it go ahead, but don't put yourself on a high horse because you're rich and have leeway to make poor decisions with your money.
Blizzard had a GREAT opportunity to seriously change the mobile platform. They could have brought a better structure like a flat 15-20 bucks for the game, or have small subscription fee to play seasons or something like 3.49 a month, etc, but instead they chose GREED and decided to solidify predatory mobile MTX and solidifying it as "normal" or "mainstream". It doesn't HAVE to be different. It's purposely designed to be broken so you pay to fix it, like you said!
This is the problem with games now, you pay to have and play everything and then you have nothing to do and people get bored and leave and you who spent a lot of money can't leave, apart from Diablo veterans we loved Diablo because everything was achieved by farming even if it took you weeks that was the fun and those who spend money will never know how much fun that is
The first minutes of his video actually held the most important information and made me understand his thinking: This guy was once really really good at video games but now he isnt anymore, so he spends 100k $ to compensate that. It is about keeping the identity that he had for like 20 years or more and thats a big problem, this guy is addicted. And by trying to convince others that the game is NOT pay to win and he is just a pro gamer who likes spending money on games he tries to reinforce that. This is not competetive anymore, its financial. The target group for pay to win mobile games are people with addiction problems and/or people who earn a lot of money but do not have plenty of time, so they can compensate for that by paying. Surely, the market is smaller but you do not need a big target group when 10 players give u 1000000$, makes sense huh? And its a huge problem especially regarding younger generations who might suffer because they dont have the capabilities to spend these amounts of money or because they get introduced to gambling. This game might have a bigger impact on the gaming industry and the society than most people realize especially since the Western countries usually reacted very allergic to pay to win/gambling addictive games. To me, it feels like Diablo Immortal is the attempt to introduce pay to win to the Western market. And just as a side note: It reminds me of bodybuilders who pump themselves up with steroids to compete or fulfill unrealistic expectations. His character is literally on steroids.
You're right pretty much about everything, it's a big push with probably the "best" franchise they could think of. The good thing is that if it fails we'll likely resist the next waves. Help by spreading the word wise one, support our beloved quality products so they know we're still here. A lot of asian releases either don't even make it to us or tone down the p2w, and since our society is technically getting better the more hours of work we cut the better the hobby environment will be and being immune to the work-sleep-work eastern loop could mean partial immunity potentially forever
Sounds like a motive. Paying to get get to the top. He probably wouldnt be good enough for most competitive games anymore, If the goal is to be at the absolute top.
Diablo Immortal doesn't even pale in comparison to other mobile games XD.. paragon level far exceeds money, unless ofc its 100k lol, but yeah clash of clans? that game is even mild in mobile games and thats infintely worse than diablo immortal..
Meanwhile if you look up, there actually exagear enables you to play D2 Lod and devilutionx gives you d1 with hellfire for your phone. 100 percent free. So there is that too for your mobile gaming and shit
There is just no middle anymore lol. Spending 100k in a lot of ways is absolutely ridiculous. But gluttony exists in everything. Also there is nothing wrong with someone enjoying a game and throwing a few bucks at it to enchance your playtime and support the ppl playing this game.
It's staggering to me how absolutely oblivious people who are financially very well off have no concept of the value of money and how detrimental these kind of predatory games are.
Imagine thinking spending 100000$ on Diablo Immortal is an "investment". Investments have a return. That return might be a slight, or even major loss. But there's a return.
if hes using it in the sense that his diablo content brings in money you can think of it akin to a streamer using money to upgrade their setup and thus making making a return because of higher quality stream. Not defending anything Im just trying to stretch to find the only way i can possibly just to see it from his pov
@@ogaimon3380 yeah if I "invest" in some salmon or avacodos, I'm not expecting an ROI in monetary terms, but maybe in terms of life expectancy or health or food enjoyment.
@@ogaimon3380 The psychologists that create these schemes Asmongold often talks about are hoping that'll be people's perspective on the matter. They thank you for falling for the scheme, much appreciated.
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This dude spends 100k on a mobile game and makes a video bragging about it, meanwhile I throw 20 bucks on a mobile game and I spend the rest of the week feeling like I ruined my life financially.
Lmao this statement is beyond truth. It amazes me how there are people out there dropping that much money on a game they will cast aside in a year or two. I hate when I spend $10-$20 cause I know I likely will only play it for a few months, if that even... Actually invest that money or give some to me bro. Give money to people instead of meaningless gems in a game.
yup. I bought a LoL skin ONCE and I've regreted spending that money for years. Can´t even phatom why this people spend thousands, evend hundreds on a video game.
If 20 bucks is financially destructive you might wanna do something else than sit on thos
$20 shoulnd't amount to your life's value. Might wanna re-evaluate your financial situation if this is the case.
worked up over 20$ lol damn.
He's not justifying it to us.
He's justifying it to himself.
agreee
Exactly!
I kind of wonder how he has this much money to spend in the first place (not just on Diablo, but in other games he's played). Imagine if he invested the same thing in Real Estate.
I felt the same exact way as I was hearing him talk ...
I thought that too.
His arguments were targeting his own problems with the game not ours.
This just proves the point that no matter how shit the scam is there's always a sucker out there who's gonna fall for it.
Diablo shit mortal, already made 6 million dollards in less than a week, there are a lot of suclers out there, a lot, that is why gaming is dying, no one want good product, i mean come on, i was watching overwatch 2 reveal yeasterday and gameplay is the same, the single player campaing the selling feature of the game, not appear, and the change to the characters, more diversity and inclusion, please, gaming is dead, is gone
Well it’s not a scam if the person spending the money knows what he’s doing I mean he knows he put 100k into the game and he kneels why he did it this guy is just really dumb for doing it and that goes for all the whale they no what there doing
Except it's not really a scam ... It's just really really really anticonsumer monetization *can't say bad because its actually working for some dumb reason*
not quite fall for it. That rude is simple fitlthy rich man. Made no difference spend some pennies on DI.
@@andreschmitz8729 sadge
This man single-handedly funded Diablo immortal
You underestimated blizzard greediness
And diablo 4s wages
Didn’t know Matthew mcconaughey was a gamer
Alrigh alrigh @@Psychonaut165
this dude has somehow managed to become a paying actor instead of a paid actor.
lolololol
🤣😂
You killed me xD
BRO I CANT!
Underrated comment. Almost choked on my water laughing when I read that 🤣
"Rich went 44-0 because he was a whale going against f2ps"
"Paying in this game doesn't give you an advantage over F2p"
This guy's not a clown, he's the entire circus
Another amber heard logic fan
LMFAO
I dont even think rich ppl will play this game. There are other things they can spend time and have fun.
Mostly poor and middle ppl who cant control his/her addiction will spend this much money and go broke.
@@hoothoot673 my dude, rich people don't see money how you see it, they just blow it away without care. Asmon is different cause he wasn't born rich
@@hoothoot673 poor people can't afford paying for a mobile game. It doesn't work like that.
The fact that he said "invest" into a mobile games just threw his cred out the window for me...he's completely entrenched in the sunk cost fallacy
when one says he invested in a mobile game and gets gets out his fish name dictionary you know he is truly a lost cause.
He is investing actually.
Think like this:
He is paying 100k, for what?
To create a Twitch Audience.
Would you know about this guy, if he spent 30$?
No.
But because he spent 100k, not only we know about him, and him being a Streamer, but he also managed to lure Asmon into this scheme.
He would not Put a Target into himself if it wasn't for this, he want's the attention, that's the return of his investment, a Community.
Wanna know how much that is worth?
Way more than 100k, Streamers can make Millions per Year.
It's an Investment, a risky one, but a smart one as well.
And if he managed to grab Asmon, it's working.
Invest... And what do you get back... Fun? Well I invested in $10-$30 games on sale and got the same s*it, he sounds like a bad financial advisor to me.
@@raphaelmerino100 sadly, maybe. I just hope they dont stick around, cause hes boring af, and either a gambling addict or legit paid by blizzard
@@raphaelmerino100 That's a fair argument, and that may be the case for this guy, but for 95%+ of those spendng big money on the game, it won't be. It also might only work for this guy, I would argue, because of his underlying gaming prowess. Spending big on games doesn't build a big or loyal audience. Being excellent at games is what keeps people around. If he can move on to a game and be great without money, the crowd will remain. If he is mediocre without money, people will move on. Or he'll just have to stick to games where he pays to be great, and hope his royalties make it worth it. Most youTubers have a short career of success. Almost none of those I as watching 5 years ago I still watch.
45 min reaction for a 16 min video. Asmon really is a professional streamer
at 15 minutes he's already halfway through the video so he spends 30 minutes on the second 8 minutes lol
Nah a professional streamer would have a 16 min reaction for a 16 min video
@@id1550False, Reaction types are subjective. From person to person.
This guy is proof that it really is easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled
I get that it's an expression, but it has to be that way. Otherwise, you'd be convincing people that they were fooled when they weren't, thus fooling them and arriving back at the original statement.
Well said
it really boils down to him just having an addiction to spending and gambling. the game is literally just a worse version of diablo 3 which is 15 years old and doesnt require you to spend thousands of dollars to push content lol
@@TakashiAmanoOriginal he knows exactly what he's doing.. by tagging asmond, etc.. he wants his money back in attention
Did you even watch the fucking video? The guy paid at his own will because he likes the stuff, as well as every other mobile game he played. Stop making it look like someone is forcing anyone to pay for the game and it is some kind of ploy which every whale falls for. You are delusional.
Imagine how happy Bobby must be to have these kinds of people defending Diablo Immortal and giving him 100k
Yup. Justification
not as happy as when epstein would hit him up
yup. 1 person who's spent 100k on a game drowns out the voice of 50k people who refuse to spend money on micro transactions.
@@Joseph-R and that's beautiful cos beggars and peasants should stfu
@@Joseph-R But that's not the question that will be asked at the next IB.
What will be asked is: "How much did it cost to make this "Game" and how much did it make in return?
If the later number is bigger (hopefully not by a small margin, fingers crossed there are enough gullible suckers out there)
stock price will be more likely to rise.
This guy right here is *precisely* the reason this game was created.
Facts. He’s just a tool
Once he said he had 6 figures in Clash of Clans i lost all respect for his opinions.
And consequently that guy is precisely the reason why OW2 is dead.
Blizz's profit expectation changed thanks to whales, and they stopped supporting OW2 PVE because of it.
@@DawnAfternoon lets be real. NOBODY relevant gave a FUCK about overwatch pve. They lost all the people with any sense when they introduced brigitte into the game.
Even if I was rich like Dana white I wouldn't spend $100,000 on a game let alone a mobile game
The fact that it’s possible to spend $100k on a mobile game should be illegal
Nah he a grown ass man why you care so much
Why
Bro thats actually very common - on white out survival the top ranked player has spent over 500k
In clash of clans 1 guy spent 1M dollars on a rare skin for his castle
@@JohnathenStamos no they didn't
"That itch that mobile gamers have"
That is called addiction sir.
Yep
@@Garoslol probably because you are a PC gamer
Only mobile gamblers know what he's talking about
I mean gamers
@@teodorstefanov5103 i am a pc gamer and whenever i see unguarded shit (ingame) i can steal i get the itch.
It's like you took the words right out of my mouth.
Just look at pubg mobile. It's normal for mobile players. Mobile Players seems to have a lot of money compared to pc and console players. That's the reality now, like it or not.
Hearing this guy's arguments legit make me wanna cry. How can someone be so disconnected from reality and shove 100k+ Dollars into a game. The fact that he says it's the "best" mobile-game he has ever played show that the bar for mobile gaming just isn't very high.
it kinda is, the guy's just been playing the trendy garbage that shows up in all the popular app stores instead of hidden gems.
Not surprising this scam is the "best mobile game ever made!" most mobile games are literally false adverts to trick you into watching other ads before you realize its a reskin of some generic shit heap crapped behind a giant ad wall and you delete the game.
The bar for mobile games is really really fucking low.
It's not even close to being the best.
There're tons of actually good mobile games that don't try to exploit you at any turn, including indies made by passionate people who got sick of these practices.
I can't preach it enough but o e of the best mobile games has to be magic survival, its what inspired vampire survivor and its a ton of fun
I feel bad because there is so much potential in mobile gaming that is lost to overgrown capitalism. Ghost Trick was a banger and it was a DS port.
Man the damage the industry has done to this mans gambling addicted brain and the way he justifies it is actually so fucking sad to see :/ The world needs to catch up with gaming scams
The world needs to hear dumb people like you, to separate the sane people from them. He is clearly willing to pay and is able to pay for whatever he wants, because he is a grown man and can do whatever he wants with his life, because he enjoys something, I can see your jealousy coming off. If you define a scam as "well, there is a shop, where you can buy stuff, how could they come up with this multi-level insane ploy" then every single shop in the world is a scam by your definition. And, you are very clearly informed with texts and info for what you are about to pay for. I guess learn to read first.
Justifies
why do you have sympathy for this clown? He makes gaming worse for everyone.
@@keonkla I have no idea what you are talking about. The guy is clearly enjoying the game, he tells about a lot of people he knows regardless of how much they paid enjoying the game. Me myself enjoy the game, I'm currently ranked 1 in battlegrounds PVP on my server with battle pass and boon of plenty only ($15). If the game is not for you - don't play it, it's that simple.
@@ВладиславВеретеник-у7ь COPIUM
The grind vs pay buffs are incomparable. It’s like a human and a saiyan. Every battle makes the saiyan exponentially stronger vs the human getting experience and being blocked off from zenkai boosts
Ok nerd 🤓
@@CongoTheBongoyour watching a video from a twitch streamer who makes all their money playing games on the internet, reacting to a video talking about PC vs mobile gaming.
EVERYONE here is a massive nerd, you included.
this dude is literally everything that is wrong with gaming, wrapped in one unironic person.
The way he referred to his addiction as "The itch" made me incredibly sad. There are people who are paid incredible amounts of money to develop ways to exploit human psychology. It's sad man.
addiction is an illness
He is a person
@@griffgruffl1 not anymore.
He pays so that you don’t need to. Developers wont make games without people like him
Bro this guy did the community a great favor by doing this, he gives great talking points to use as evidence of how malicious this game is.
@@ThwipThwipBoom gaming has devolved into simple gambling. While other places in the world are banning games like this and loot boxes, at least it'll always have a home in the good USA.
He just mentioned 13 real life friends. He's gotta be pushing 40. Only douchebags and liars say they have that many real life friends at 40. Assholes can make an infinite amount of friends because they have zero standards. I've barely met that many people in my life who were worth being friends with. Most people are awful. Yeah, he might have a lot of friends but don't invite any of them to your house because a week later you will come home and all your stuff is gone.
@@ThwipThwipBoom unfortunately, this system basically means that meaningful changes will skip a generation every cycle. At least it seems that way considering the people handling out important affairs likely couldn't tell you what an address bar is. It's pathetic and the positions are far too profitable. Positive change shouldn't be reliant on the deaths of these old fools.
lol he could've bought a small apartment here in Eastern europe. He could literally provide a home to somebody.
@@jpxyUA sure, but money isn't destroyed by being used. It just changes hands. It's only wasted if it's not spent.
This guy is like a addict that's trying to convince people it ain't that bad.
Sad part is that these type of guys are ruining it for the rest of us, I don't mind to pay 60 bucks on a good mobile game and even a 10 dollar sub fee if the game is good, but having to deal with P2Win people on a PvP game, to hell with that...
He literally described it as an "itch" like he was talking about drugs. This child is just an attention seeker.
No he is lmao
Had a mate with a heroin addiction. The words he uses might be different but the logic for the justification is the same. Pretty sad.
He played castle clash :😭
I was afraid to buy a game for 10 bucks cuz i dont want to spend money on "worthless fun". Now this makes me wanna buy it
This guy and others like him is the reason why we are dealing with pay to win games.
They are why you get to play for free.
@@kaydens6964 Even in games where we pay subscriptions or pay full price for.
@@kaydens6964 its more like they destroy the games for as.
@@aevic373 The thing is, when games stop making money, blizzard abandons them, look at sc2 and heroes of the storm
No the reason is because greedy assholes at the top like to take advantage of guys like him
The "itch" he referred to is the psychological manipulation to spend money. Computer games are commonly less predatory, but that is, sadly, starting to change.
No. It was like that, since MUDs. You guys are diluting Youself. Been blind for too long.
Yes and people like that guy are the reason for those changes. if nobody would spnd on Diablo Immortal the game would just die within weeks
@@jamesmaybrick6750 well if count all the game that has been release esp pc/console gaming then yes it is less predatory even with dlc and by some extent mtx. Mobile gaming especially gacha base are pretty much predatory since from the beginning, always have been an issue it is just it starts to bleed in to the pc gaming sphere ever since OW start the lootbox train.
This is not really a computer game so don't really see the change. This is a mobile game.
@@jamesmaybrick6750 Exactly. Predatory game is predatory.
"I spent $100k on pixels. Just like I spent $30k on pixel corn in Farmville."
- People who have too much money and don't know what to do with it.
So you've never spent money on any video game?
@@Gerald0613 You literally spend money on every game you play, but not fking thousands of dollars.
The word is addict.
Spoken like a true addict. It's like listening junkie to tell you that spending all his money to drugs hurts no-one and he is having the best time of his life. Oh, and the dealers are really the good guys... you just don't understand because you don't know how to have fun.
This is actually so accurate
it's like talking about weed on reddit. nobody can seem to admit that it's actually less healthy than simply not doing it at all, and even if you argue the perks of a sober mind, suddenly everyone "knows a guy who's super rich who does weed."
I've seen more than enough addicts to know this
You don't need to draw a stupid line between drug addiction and it. It's bad enough on it's own. It takes advantage of people with mental illness.
Another thing, the drug dealers and the drug addicts aren't the 'bad' OR 'good' guys. They are just people like you and me, under different circumstances. Some of them are bad, some of them are good. All of them are bad sometimes, and all of them are good sometimes.
@@jakemurray4346 Well said mate
Companies should just increase the Pay to Win. Like, make 'endgame Soft Cap' free to play players can reach in 1 month cost just $100k then the Hard Cap fully Geared cost 10 million dollars. And then the top endgame, cost 1 billion dollars. I would like to know which 'Whale' reaches those numbers and is still proud and defends the game.
We look at these Whales as big spenders but ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, they are spending just a little money. And it doesn't affect them. Like regular Americans spending 10$ in a game. It's little money.
that fact that he said "invested" destroyed my soul. even if i take ALL of my wow sub payments, all consoles and games i ever bought, my entire steam account and every single skin purchase in league or hots together, i wouldnt even be close to 10k, and i have played video games for 25 years, basically 4-16 hours every single day. that guy is fucking insane
I mean if you put it that way. Blizzard should make more Diablo Immortal type games if they make so much profit.
You can check your whole money spent in league and steam iirc and you'd be suprised how much it is :D
Probably not 10k but it's too much if you think about it
must be nice to have 100k to blow on stupid shit. Guy's like this are so disconnected from the reality of the world. when you can blow 100k on a mobile game and then call it an INVESTMENT when you're getting nothing out of it is just sad.
@Konstantin Dahlin It's an investment if your goal is to make gaming even worse for years to come.
Dude, if i grab every spend i made nearly all mi life, not videogames everithing, i cant even be close he spend in that piece of crap, with sub par grafics, and i want to see what games he play i play mobile in the last what one and a half year two maybe
I respect that this person seems honest and genuine, they're just too deep in the rabbit hole and have completely deluded themselves. Like they're not lying about anything, they're just inhaling massive amounts of copium
Any cult requires believers. You also get this kind of behavior from people who invest in speculation.
i used to watch him when he played castle clash, a lot of mobile games rly do require a lot of money to get ahead but idk why people get mad abt it sm
pretty genuine soul from what i can tell lmao
@@joivs4956 JT has been a big spender for a while now. I'd watched him from so long ago, even have JT added as a friend on castle clash
@@4head527 yeah always has been bro, i wonder if it makes him profit from yt lmao
Imagine exchanging $100,000 for strings of code.
Bitcoin
i dont have to. NFTS
It is amazing hearing people say they "invested" money in microtransactions
I was feeling sick in my stomach everytime this guy started to justify and defend the game's monetization
if diablo immortal is literally making you so stressed out it makes you sick maybe it's time to take a step back
@@pennyisdreadful You should stop trying to twist things to try and defend this game.
He said he's getting "sick" when he hears people who spend real life money on power in games and call it "investing". You "invest" into microtransactions just like you "invest" into a scam coin.
Sorry if my original post was poorly written. That is exactly what i meant, I am not playing this, just following the stories, and today I watched Asmond live when he saw this one.
Idk, haven’t spent a cent. Whales paying for game development for me
@@Tooamazin yeh like if you invest, i think normally you'd expect a return maybe you lose maybe you gain but you get something back. with this you get nothing you can't get the virtual items back to real money atleast not legitimately
This guy is the ultimate tool. Love how he “invests” in these P2W games. How’s your equity man?
His ROI is nonexistant.
Its so good that he has to now stream on twitch to make money for his mobile gaming "investments"
@@thegoodrevbadandyarr4272 or...his ROI is kickin in doing this crap and calling out 99.9999999999% of the gamers who know immortal is trash
its pay to play not pay to win
Bro!!!! Im dying after reading this comment. But so true lol.
Every time that guy tells "I have invested money into the game" I am blown away. You do not INVEST real money into the game to just play, you're PAYING for content, not for financial profit in exchange.
very true. At the end of the day, you are not getting that money back.
If he’s able to trade and sell them I think it’s investing but yea you’re right
@@Bigbuddahgee he could sell it for 1/100 of what he spent 😂
Don’t you “invest” time into a game? I know people who have invested over a decade into wow. Time you can’t get back for a video game. How is that “better” than spending money. Saying spending money on a game is dumb but spending years is totally okay. Some people can’t invest that time or choose not to. Rather than put down what they do in comparison to what you do, you could see that they’re getting enjoyment in the end just like you
Yeah it’s spending not investing.
I’ve got over six figures, “invested” into it.. can’t wait until those investments mature
This guy is severely disconnected from financial reality. Guess this is what happens when you have too much disposable income and forget or never knew what it is like to be paying the bills.
All you have to do is listen to his 15 minute speech about his "achievements", this mfer hasn't worked a single day in his entire life.
Stop living in his shoes. Sit back watch the show. Live your own life
It's confusing for me, how the hell people with mindset like this can be rich? Usually high income people are so efficient with their money.
@@MeltonCrest If he isnt lying, he wouldve played those games for 12 hours a day. He has definitely never worked.
@@Cakalank that's a lie told to poor people by rich people.
"You could be rich too if you didn't spend money on avacado toast"
This guy is the epitome of fishing for a whale. The game isn’t made for us, it’s a tool to get money out of these guy’s hands
Yeah hes worth 100 million f2p
@@cheapmovies25 infinitely more*
"he went 44-0 because he paid money"
"paying money does not give you an advantage over free to play players"
pick a side homie ahah
"There is no distinct difference between F2P and P2W", "The only way to get to the top end is to pay" and "The only difference is the P2W get better gear" all within minutes of each other.... The copium is unreal; like how delusional can one person be?
This guy is Blizzard's target audience. They love people like him who will dump hundreds of thousands of dollars into a game and defend it. This is why mobile games are heavily pay to win. It's because people like him dump so much money into it and defend the decision to abuse players like this.
It's like that person you know who's clearly in an abusive relationship that they not only never leave and keep going back to the abuser and defending the decision to do it.
It's called Stockholm syndrome; and this guy has it in spades.
Nailed it and that’s absolutely insane. The saddest part is there are assholes out in the world that can totally afford to do this.
not stockholm syndrome lol
They are the sole reason this is happening. Gg
This is well written, well done. 100% agree
True
Keep in mind that he HAS to defend diablo immortal because if he doesn't and the game dies due to lack of players from poor word of mouth, the 100k he spent on it is essentially worthless...which it is.
it's like taking out a mortgage on his house for 1 NFT, then finding out it was worthless yesterday
@@thahirshibu5042its worthless the moment you spend it.
@@Threat_LvL Not if you spend it on real assets. Not in a computer game but a piece of art or a house or stocks in a company. Then it just becomes more valuable over time due to inflation.
Facts man spent someone's house on something more worthless then NFT's lmfao
I read that last line in Anton Chigur’s voice
This dudes arguments is basically "I enjoy buying my way to the top and being better than everyone because of my wallet." literal vile consumerism that the mobile gaming market preys on. This dude is the perfect player all those mobile games BEG to have on their game.
you mean payer, the perfect payer all those mobile games beg to have on their game.
do you have pubg mobile on your phone i need to play 😃 PUBAHG MOBILE / FORNYTE?
PUBAH G
its a status, " i like the game, i can buy what u cant with my hard earned money, if want to buy this, you should work hard too"
Pay to win? More like pay to not play the game.
I never understood why people want to pay to skip content, pay to not have anything to play for. For what? So you can feel good about killing someone who had 0 chance against you? And somehow in ur lil inbred brain you feel better then that person? By what logic may I ask?
2022, still monkeys around me left n right. And they ask me why I'm depressed in a world filled with inbreds.
Asmon is no better. He loves to brag about not gambling etc, but fails to see that's exactly what he did with Lost Ark. He bought materials to gamble. Then he continued that with Diablo Immortal. And he fails to see that he is apart of the problem, then goes to talk about he did it for the stream like it changes anything at all.
Something happens to a person when they become rich. And it's very ugly.
It shows their true colors don't it.
this kind of people is pathetic honestly xd, it's the equivalent of buying your girlfriend instead of getting one through a real connection
Can I just say that I love watching and listening to all the storys you have to tell and the reactions on other video's. Honestly besides learning a lot, Im really enjoying your video's. You earned a sub!
I died when he used the term "Invested" into a mobile game, like it's provides some kind of return
He's literally streaming the game and making videos on it he's getting money back still horrible though
Who knows? Maybe Blizzard paid him to make a video like this 🙃🙃 I won't even be surprised. There's no limit to how low this company can stoop anyway.
@@TeritotheLegend you think his audience is donating/subbing 100k+? Doubt that.
As someone who works in this industry, if you think your mobile game is an "investment" you're a massive tool and total sucker.
@@TeritotheLegend investment provides return that should be more than money that was put in. not spend $100 and have $1 as return. that's not investment.
I could lift my entire family out of poverty for half the money he's spent on a video game.
and there are some bleeding hearts who think this guy is a victim. Nah he is a pampered man child. hope he blows through so much funds he becomes homeless .
Can't believe these parasites ruin it for other men and woman with self control.
yea, but then get more money just like he did
@@Ghost1170 So, your advice to everyone is to struggle more than everyone else. Totally rational :D
Could argue the majority of shit people blow money on is useless. Some people just blow their money on games
God... 100k dolars is equal to 87.000.000 clp... i can Just change my life with 10.000.000
"Me being a pay to play, how does this affect the game of a free to play player?"
I will tell you.
Because you pay insane amounts of money for the game, you literally incentivise game makers to create games exclusively made for you. You incentivise game makers to add monetization to everything.
And this isnt even just mobile games, it clearly isnt, we have seen how this has been creeping more and more into PC games.
It used to be that if I bought a game for 50 bucks, I had a game, with everything in it at my disposal, where I could play to unlock achievements, often in the form of skins.
Then they started making skins pay to play only. Then they started adding customisation just to increase the amount of payment ppl do.
And its obvious why.
If you pay 100k on a single game, just think how many copies at 50 bucks that is. You singlehandedly pay the same amount that 2000 other players would spend on a tripple A title.
That means any player who drops 50 bucks on a game only pays 0.05% of what a single whale pays.
Or to turn it around. 0.05% of whales pay the same amount of money as the entire rest of the playerbase. Why on earth would any company care for the rest of the playerbase, if they can instead try to get more whales. Double the amount of whales and you get 50% more profit. And for most games that only means to get a few hundred or thousand whales into the game.
So it very much so affects the average player. Cause games companies would rather build casinos for ppl that dont know what to do with their money, than to create fun video games.
Especially as a lot of people never had this type of money to spend on games in their entire life. I have like 100 bucks a year to spend on video games. And these insane purchases from people that have too much money are the reason why those 100 bucks are increasingly worthless. I can buy less and less games, and get less and less content in the games I do buy.
And this is just the systemic issue behind this bs. The fact that these types of games systematically take money from children who literally cant afford it pushing entire families into financial ruin is the cherry on top of all this nonsense.
I think you should comment in his video dude. We all pretty much know about this.
Agreed. Last part though is somewhat irresponsible parenting. There's plenty of options to restrict children's ability to spend within app and play store.
Is every computer gamers no life like you ? Instead of writing a big text on youtube how about put this effort in school ?
yeah and it will become a nice lonely world...this simp prob enjoys it
Absolutely spot on!
"Im not addicted"
Bro's account and character:
"I simply enjoy spending ridiculous amounts of money to show my rank vs being ranked by skill." is absolutely a mindset that should seek professional help for so many issues...and the companies who prey on people like him should be held accountable for their deception and greed.
He isn't a victim, he is being irresponsible with his money.
@@ChristopherGray00 that's how he got here, but he's still a victim because he is an addict.
Agreed, no arguments needed.
yeah lmao, almost sounds like they want to make the game work like real life
What deception? There is no deception? Are you going to close down every liquor store so normal people like me cant get any liquor?
I feel so sorry for that guy. The way he is trying to convince himself that this "big boy" behaviour is something worthy to be proud of.
Hes going to use this as a write off because he is streaming. Probably for realized profits from an actual business interest.
He’s a content creator. He’s not missing that money.
I don't to me this is what being a man child is and if anything he ain't running out of money if he is throwing away money like that.
If he does blow through it hopefully he ends up homeless and hungry.
Lmao imagine feeling sorry for a guy that can spend 100k or more on a video game. It mean he isn't poor and 100k isn't mean anything for him lol why would you feel sorry for him, do you feel sorry for every rich man that spend million on a car or some mansion that too big for 1 person to live in ?
he never said that, you are inventing shit
As soon as I hear that someone "invested" money into the game I write them off as delusional.
If you're engaging in doublespeak right from the start, its probably already too late for you, the game companies got you.
If you buy shares in blizzard sure.
I watched that dud's vid response to this video. Most of the games he plays are Blizzard games. I'd almost think ge works there.
@@dubstepXpower I actually have them on my watch list, not that I'm going to buy any anytime soon. Was curious about how far they might drop with all the negative things surrounding them. xD
This guy invested in bitcoin early or inherited a bunch of money.
I know right. Calling these “investment” like wtf
He keeps saying "invested" like hes getting a return on that money instead of just lighting it on fire.
I like how this guy trying to explain why it’s not a problem just shows more and more why it’s a problem.
Yeah all he had to say is you don't have to spend a dime. You're just paying to skip the grinding. That's all it really is. It's not like it forces you to pay to climb or rank up.
"I played a lot of computer gaming and a lot of PC gaming as well and..." yes he definitely is one of the gamers ever.
How do you do fellow gamers?
@@BleachRush I see what you did there ^^!
@Diavolo Jaegar he is gamer existing
@@genogrinberg6014 Yes, but does existence game?
@@ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 only mobile knows
He lost his argument the moment he said "I invested." I think people like this don't have a problem because they feel like the money they spent is the accomplishment. They "invested" the money, so they get the greater reward.
Yep spending money IS their reward, gets the dopamine juices flowing. Every gambler ever is all about spending against risk to feel good.
They are too afraid to pronounce the word wasted so they said invested.
He literally invested because his stream are growing up which can return his money in long term...and yes he is growing bcs he is ultra whale in Diablo Immortal. Deal with it.
@@Jookeerrr11 I dont think people will be interested in the long run. He is not charismatic, diablo immortal probably wont be a very popular game for streaming. Also he just started streaming, no way he is gonna make 100k back this year.
If you invest in stocks you can sell them again. Maybe at a loss but you can sell them again. You spend money on D2I that money is gone forever.
The FACT that he just COMPARED being the highest rank in CS GO a 100% skill dependent game 0% pay to win with Diablo Immortal a mobile game that is 100% pay to win, just shows how out of touch this man is...
Lol I wrote the same comment before reading this. And if you watch the whole video this guy is so entitled and ignorant as a rich boy, he perfectly underlines the stereotype of being rich in a capitalist world, he just doesn't get it, to him everything is fine, he doesn't see any problem :)))))
if you pay over 100.000$ for a video game, no matter how rich you are, you are not only out of touch. in my eyes this is completly stupid. i didnt know it is so easy to rob rich people - wtf
@@chrishunter1109 What do you think "art" was before it turned into a tax write off
@@wardosbox This is good! mobile gaming is still current. Wait till I published mine! please!
@@chrishunter1109 clothing, cars accessories you name it I see most people with this problem. I bet you have a pair of Jordan's laying around that you spent 200+ on.
11:20 He's trying to reason his way through what Rich was able to do but he's basically admitting that you can buy your way to being the equivalent of a global elite player in Diablo Immoral lmao
Good grief, is this real life O.o
He can't even see the obvious logical flaws in his own statements. It's almost not even worth debating someone who only applies a singular layer of thought in their argument
@@only1kingz Gamba brain
If you spent 100k on a mobile game ofcourse you are gonna say "It's Not That Bad".
sunk cost fallacy
Dude I could never put that much into any game
Seriously though if you've spent over 100 on a game, you're an addict. 100,000.. shit you could have bought a Ferrari to share rides with your family for decades. Bought a family trip for 10k and got lifetime memories for EVERYONE going. Or paid most of the college debt for two kids. Down payment on a house etc. This is the DEFINITION of SELFISH. Got nothing but bytes to show for it and only an experience you can share by yourself.
@@Garoslol Thing is, a gambling addict at least has a chance to win money back. You wont get any money back from DI.
@@saveyoutub A few hundred (or even 2000-3000 if it's over a long time) I can justify, if that game actually has content, and you're spending on the game itself and not to gain some advantage. For example I've easily spent 200-300 on WoW just on expansions and subs in about 2 years, or around 120 on FFXIV in a year, but I got thousands of hours of fun out of it. The difference is that I was paying to extend my playtime and not to reduce it, and it was over longer periods of time and not in a week.
that guy is one of the reason why freaking one cosmetic armor set cost as much as the whole game itself
The moment he said "invest" instead of "pay" was when I knew how far the deep end he's gone.
Now I want him to do (spend) the same to other classes. Hey, it's not a full Diablo experience without trying all classes.
what about the next season?
Glasses would also help
lol 🤣
@@blenfz Holy shit.. are they really going with seasonal characters??? Blizzard created a cash cow.
Of course just test your luck what class pay less to maximize 😂
Congrats at helping Blizzard pay their court cost and legal fees as well as law suits. No way should you have to spend thousands of dollars (or even 100s of dollars) to enjoy a game and such
especially if it's a mobile games..
I think it's understandable if you have to spend around 60 to 100 dollars
(That's the total amount so if the base game is 60 if you spend extra 40 to get extra things Thats ok)
Because that the game cost .
I'm actually mindfuck atm, for shame, and you have shown your face.. for shame. You will be known forever.
@@Faissal-zg8pb even that's questionable and then this guy is spending hundreds of thousands like holy shit i can't even pay my college, you're over there spends thousands to have the fun you could get with 60$
@@arronalt I dont think 100 is questionable for some games, for example paying only 60 bucks for elden ring feels like I'm ripping fromsoft off
$16k is small compared to other mobile games. We got people spending close to a million on Evony: The King's Return
16k on ONE type of currency currently in his possesion. He's paid a lot more if not the full 100k mentioned in the title on that single game alone.
"I've only been twitching" is so perfect for this video 😂
"It only cost me 50k to get a maxed out character - it's not much compared to other games."
I've maxed out multiple characters in multiple games for only $60 each.
This guy just isn't part of reality.
Imagine guys maxing out chars on all these different games for 50k-250k each.
Exactly. If you have two brain cells...
i've maxed out many characters in many games for exactly free, unless you include the cost of the game.
I know right :D you can even max out characters for much cheaper than that. And imagine that you can actually even play the game while doing so instead of just opening boxes and other random popups while your wallet is crying.
$60 each GAME, not each CHARACTER.
I hate how mobile games are so efficient at making money with so little effort. Those companies spend $1 to make $1000, while a good company making PC single player games (like Horizon Zero Dawn, Elden Ring or Sony Spider-man) may have to spend $100 to make $1000.
Imagine giving your opinion on a predatory game while admitting you have a gambling addiction to the point he gets "the itch". He should have posted the video with the title "Rehab please help me".
I wish everytime he said "bring us together to have fun together" you cut to him laughing like a crazy person killing everyone
I absolutely love the word "Invest". You have used 100k to find some sort of happiness in a game. The jitter in this guys voice shows that he knows this is incredibly fucked up. its an addiction and this guy is trying to justify what he did. PC gamers want to buy a game and have fun, maybe buy a few skins throughout the process. We like to use skill and theory crafting to get better. 16 Days since launch. its costing this guy 6250$ a day to have fun. let that sink in.🤯🤯🤯
His voice comes across a little shaky... Then at 7:55 listen to how He says "buy 'em".
he sounds like an alcoholic or another kind of addict, i agree. its a kind of rambling in the voice i heard before
yeah i thought absolutely the same about "invest". hitting the copium pipe hard
Came here for this. Every time he says he “invests” makes me want to see his stock portfolio. That $16,666.00 he has just sitting in his account is worthless 1s and 0s.
I have no experience being a whale but i feel like he's chasing some sort of high like he had from competitive gaming.
I am happy that Asmongold is talking about this dangerous stuff on his stream while hundreds of thousands of people are watching him. He is raising awareness about the right things
I love how he said… “invested.” Lol! Like there is a return on it coming in the future. 😂
@@Notyourbusinesschap true but it’s a twisted route vs a free grind making real content instead of showing what debt looks like
Yea...return him to poverty.
@@Notyourbusinesschap A guy spending a lot of money in a video game is a novelty he needs something to keep the viewers, or to just have an entertaining show personality.
and the battleground to csgo comparison is ultra cringe
of course, this video alone will make asmon and him way, way more than that laughable 100k he spend.
people have 0 clue, thats why its so easy to make millions of dollars
That kind of mobile game is like drugs. 'Pay to win' makes you feel better than 'Free to win'. Game makers focus on how to make you addicted in gambling and empty your wallet instead of making good game contents. There're so many mobile games like that in my country China, even some online pc games.Although they're shits, there're still many players being addicted to it and throwing lots of money. $100,000 is not that much comparing to chinese 'pay to win' players. Spending more than $1,000,000 is not rare to see.
"I'm a gambler" "get that itch" dude just inadvertently admitted he has a gambling problem with this video which is exactly why he loves the game so much, he doesn't even realize he has a serious addiction thats being 100% exploited by blizzard, I honestly feel bad for these people I was a drug addict for years and blizzard is exactly like the dealers that would keep pushing me away from getting clean...😔
yeah this whole diablo immoral situation is just another name for your typical drug dealers feeding drug addicts for profit but worse because the world governments doesn't treat this threat seriously like how they treat drug cartel.
@@kukuhimanputraraharja8084 absolutely right, ODing when it comes to gambling addiction isn't as cut and dry or obvious as say heroin but it can be just as harmful, it more looks like someone losing every penny they have because they literally can't stop until they have nothing left and taking their own life as a result because not only do they at that point have nothing and no1 left but they can no longer feed "that itch" they have that they feel was the only thing that brought them joy
Mate, there's no dealers that are pushing you from getting clean lol. What do they do? Rock up at your house and make you smell the drugs? Sounds like a good way for them to get a quick trip to the slammer. It's actually hilarious watching people comment on drug abuse equating it to microtransactions pretending they actually know anything about either, if you want to pull people's heartstrings do the obvious and true thing, which is; these systems extort the mentally ill. That is a fact. That is concrete. You don't need to draw a stupid line between drug addiction and it.
He looks and sounds as if he’s itching for his next dose.
He obviously has money and is a happy gamer so quit hating.
18:21 "When you've only played PC games, you don't understand that itch that mobile gamers have in all the different ways they enjoy the game."
It's easier to tell yourself that you are a 'mobile gamer' instead of a gambling addict.
@@synthiandrakon also if you spend 100k at a casino they're going to give you multiple thousands of dollars in comps, probably a free suite for the weekend, hell the games manager might even let you fuck his wife for buying him a new car.
Additionally that 100k could lead to winning a few hundred grand - million dollar jackpot or mini jackpot. Depending on what you're playing. Or give you the bankroll you need to sit out ur bad beats card counting / learning other poker players betting/hand ranges and how they play so you can exploit their tells and make a profit
@@synthiandrakon it sounds just as bad
The profit this game has made thanks to dudes like this is chilling. It really does feel like gaming is moving in a direction we have little hope of coming back from.
I wouldn't say that. There will always be outliers like this but the backlash over this has been astounding which is a good thing. Everyone is actively shitting on this model. Think gaming will continue to improve but money grabs like this will come and go. Mobile gaming will always be p2w though
No, no, we are just pc plebs and we don't understant that this is how mobile gaming is.
I frickin love how whale is no longer enough, we now need the new term of mega whale. Because that's just how mobile gaming is.
I'm just sticking to solo player
@@blan_27 even with the backlash the game is making incredible profits for Blizzard, even if the gaming community at large admonishes these practices, as long as they are allowed people will whale and more games like this will be made.
Playing mmorpg back in the days spending hours grinding is the best feeling that i cant find now
6:17 the moment when asmon couldn't take it in 😂😂
This guy is delusional. Paying for gear and armor is in no way a show of any skill. players in CS:GO and other competitive games that don't have Pay to Win didn't get to the top of the leader boards with their wallets. They worked and trained hard to get where they need to be as to Diablo Immoral the high rated players got to the higher ratings because their money got them there. I bet if there was no pay to win, they would be in the bottom of the leaderboards.
Him having to leave cs competitive scene might actually explain his current acceptance of p2w mechanics, since he can now stay on top by just throwing money into the monitor and fulfill his childhood dream
if there was no pay to win, they wouldn't play because that's exactly what they're looking for in a game. It's just sad.
How did he get level 99 in hardcore Diablo2? I never got that because it requires 8 person Baal runs. I was strong enough to solo an 8 person Baal run but all the public runs were full of hackers that would try to kill you with hacks and exploits. Did he pay money for runs? I never really cared if I capped out at 95. How much money did he put into Diablo2? I used D2JSP all the time too, it was great. But I never put a dime in. I earned my forum gold by farming. Sounds like he was always using his credit card and buying stuff.
It's not impossible to do legit. I guess you could make friends. And host private Baal runs. But I hate making friends. Lot of extra work for 4 extra skill points that I didn't need.
Also he said under 18 dueling. It was under 20. I think that was a Freudian slip.
that was almost heartbreaking, the guy is in denial
Actually, I'd say that he has resigned to the fact that he will open his wallet to get to the top of a game that free to play players can't get you even if they grind for years. He even says, he's a gambler and so instead of craps or roulette, he plays predatory mobile games.
@@MrMartell77 But gambling has a pay out. Winning against other people doesn't feel like a great payout.
@@dakawans83 To each their own, the guy stated that he greatly enjoys what he gets from spending. I (and probably you from your post) don't agree. But it becomes obvious that this guy is of a different mindset and is willing to spend a lot of money for instant gratification.
@@dakawans83 But it does. He's better than you or me or any F2P player and he wins pvp matches and stuff. That justification is enough to make him cope with the fact that this is probably the only time he sees himself happy in life.
This guy makes me feel better about myself on how I handle my money.
Do you feel better knowing that these people can spend $100,000 on mobile games?
I agree. 🤝🏻
Except I don’t have $100,000 of disposable income to blow on a shitty mobile game.
@@MrDagon777 yes
@@DrRynsta this guy might not have either, loans, gamblers can dig a deep hole.
If i spent 20 dollars on a mobile game I feel like I wasted my money and should have rather have had Subway
13:44 "I'm a gambler. That makes me happy"
Asmongold: "I have no more questions, your honor"
"pc gamers don't understand"
"I've been a pc gamer since the 90s"
Well, at least he's self aware that he doesn't understand.
Funny thing is I have been a PC Gamer since 486 days and I understand that this is purely a Cash Cow for Blizz. They know it and don't care. What I care about is the fact they cared when it was Gold Farmers on WoW doing it without them making money.
Filthy PC gamers. Wanting to max out characters by playing the game for months or years! Instead of paying 50k, maxing it out all in 2days and moving to different game. Thats some efficiency right there!.
lmao
@@solhigh1 the same company that let botters bot NONSTOP in the burning crusade classic. Who cares about the games economy, those botters were still paying 15$ a month.
@@ento I'm used to boomer speak being one myself. It didn't even register.. lol
This guy is the perfect target for diablo immortal. Justifying his addiction with explaination why this is bad and still says it's not bad...
If this game has no F2P players this person won't be playing this game. They won't like it be whale Vs whale game, it'll be dick measuring contest.
Watch his live stream he plays battle grounds with other whales
I am sorry to say this but some of the long running p2w mmos are fully populated by whales.
yeah you need the f2p players as a feeder system for the whales.
1 whale for every 100k schools of fish = profit
ya and what's wrong with wanting to spend? asmon and the guy are talking past each other
@@attention_shopping well its really easy, he says he enjoys to max out the character and fight at high level with everything maxed out. Well I enjoy it as well and most people do, but the game prevents me from doing so if I don't spend ridiculous amounts of money. Why can't I max out as well? why can't I use my skill and grind the reach the max ranks? what he forgets is competitive players can't have fun if they cant compete. A p2w game you can't compete, and no, I don't care about competing with other silvers, I want to be high rank, and money shouldn't be the main factor for me to climb the ladder.
I just spent $30 on pizza and feel guilty as hell about it, then there's this guy
Why guilty, you sustained yourself till the next day or so off 30 bucks. It didn’t go to waste… you’re not gonna go get food from the store for free.
This guy has what we call a gambling addiction, kids.
he's also handing out free cra- i mean, free gems!
I've played gacha for several years and the mental gymnastics these people do is mind boggling. Somehow they don't seem to understand that just because they have fun doesn't mean it's good or couldn't be better for the consumer. Stuff like "the itch" he's talking about is literally addiction to a flawed genre. It's like smokers justifying their need to keep smoking because otherwise the withdrawal symptoms will show. It's an addict's reasoning and they can't see that themselves.
@@johnjack3578 it is objectively not good, and having fun doesn't change that in the slightest. having fun doesn't mean that it's not shit, it just means that you don't see the obvious issues or you're actively trying to ignore them.
@@johnjack3578 Let me put it in a way that your bird brain can comprehend it. Good for him ≠ good for the industry. Who gives a fk about whether they're having fun. They can have fun spending money on an obscure flash game all they want. What everyone care about is this is showcasing a bad model that more and more developers will adopt, because why these idiots exist. So in future, we might end up in a situation that we can't even finish any freaking game without spending $100k on it.
People always spend their money on things they don't need noting new here
@@johnjack3578 Because the fun is produced through dopamine hits, which are hidden behind monetisation. The same case is true for straight-up gambling, but since gacha and similar mechanics aren't recognised as gambling, the companies behind it have 0 responsibility or morality to adhere to. That's why it's such a predatory genre and it's come to the point where people have not only accepted it, but even started defending it as a practice. Once you're down that deep, you don't care anymore how you get it. You just want the same, quick hits of dopamine mobile games provide. To me this is nothing other than addiction, and I say that as somebody who was exactly at that point and decided to quit for that reason.
@@johnjack3578 the problem is that he contributes financially to the game, making it more successful, and thus supports future games with microtransactions as predatory as this one. We aren’t saying he shouldn’t be having fun, we are saying he shouldn’t have to spend $100k to have fun.
so basically,
"when you're poor and not addicted
you just don't understand"
There is no understanding, only paying. Let these idiots bankrupt themselves on a videogame version of a casino on their phone.
@@Ziegfried82 not even a casino game, a casino type game gives you a chance to earn money back (selling your account, real money item trading) an example is CS:GO lootboxes skin trading.
this is just a money drain
Even if I had unlimited money I still wouldn't give a dime to Blizzard, unless they would start making great games again.
I can’t imagine having so much disposable income that could ever justify spending that kind of money on a mobile game.
That was my big question. How does this guy afford to blow thousands / hundreds of thousands of dollars on these games?
@@Zeekman774 good pont, what is the average salary in US cant be like 10k
The only game I spend money on regularly happens to be a mobile game. PoGo is kinda my sink spot, I have agoraphobia and a lot of the time for me the only way to play the events is buying remote passes for raids. So I end do end up spending more then I’d like faster then I realize cause it’s gambling at that point if your going for a shiny. I haven’t spent nearly or even a fraction of the money in this video but for my income and means it’s enough for me to notice.
@@simasbagdonavicius9623 i think the average income is below 30k
@@tylerkelly9689 a year i hope
He actually thinks being good in counterstrike and paying money in mobile games are the same thing. How can someone be so delusional?
Correction. * Being good at early NA CS which really means he was sub par at best.
"There's no advantage to paying money"
"You have to pay more money to survive the boss"
Because the boss mechanics are broken..... yet also calls it a great game
If there was no advantage, why spend crazy amounts of money? 1k, 10k, 100k? Even 1k is TOO MUCH for a game.
@@TricoliciSerghei $60 and maybe a sub but spending that kind of money is outrageous.
@@swaggadash9017 imagine renting 60 to 100 hours of movies (entertainment). Pretty sure you would reach 60$ fairly quick no? 60$ for a game isn't outrageous at all... they have to make something..
Are there some bad examples of 60$ games not worth it... sure. Still can't hand these things out for free. Don't know many folks who work for free
@@swaggadash9017 well then by that logic you should wait 5+ years to play games and it won't be so pricey. When a movie comes out in theatres you don't spend 8$ to get 1000's of hours worth of content. you spend 20$ for 2 hours. Sounds like you are more interested in something like steam where they make LOADS of unplayable games for real cheap. Well i guess you may want to download Steam? Now i will admit none of these are really direct comparisons as there are employees and time to make / production costs to make any of this. Would i pay 60$ for candy crush??? NO. There are also standards for these prices. Just tell me what's a fair price for a game that has taken 6 years to make with 100s of people dabbling their feet into it. you think 20$ is fair price for something like that? That sounds insane to me, you would never see a good game again because no one could afford to make. Games were fair when they were 60$ and not 100,000$ imo, id argue my points i just made dont really make it an opinion but eh. whats a fair price then?
To go Golfing you would spend 60$ on just decent courses and that probably won't get you a golf cart, more looking at 80$. All just for 5 hours of fun and something you cannot keep in your posession (you are paying for more than just being there same as gaming)
You'd think a former CS professional would be immune to this kind of bullshit, because that's a completely fair skill-based game (assuming you follow tournament rules).
He's chasing the feeling of being the best on a game. From the sounds of it he used to be in the top 1% of gamers back in the day but is likely nowhere near that now that he's 32. So how does he satisfy that itch of reliving his glory days? Whaaaaaallliiiin out on mobile games.
Makes sense
You'd be surprised of how many hims are out there. People who have no time or skill and compensate, and the sad part is that's the exact reason it works. It's really easy to compete and be in the top 10% when by paying you eliminate 95% of the playerbase. It really makes them feel someone
You can still be one of the best at 32 without paying hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm 35 and still consistently in the top 2% of whatever I play seriously. Fluid intelligence barely declines at all until you hit like 60 years old and my reaction time is still as fast as Shroud's lmao.
@@philj8205 ok idk bro shroud is a fps pro who takes performance enhancing drugs such as energy drinks like gfuel. The man clicks heads like a pro
@@philj8205 You are full of it. Cognitive ability, plasticity, and kinesthetic intelligence significantly drop as you age. There's a reason why you don't find a bunch of 30+ year olds in sports, and why adults have difficulty learning a new language.... Can a 30 something year old still be a top player? Yes, of course, but they are still significantly worse than they were at 22. It's just biology. There is no beating it. Does it suck, yeah, but it's just a part of life. Also important to know is that some things, like reaction times, degrade differently for each person, and there is not much you can do to change that. Even if you take two pros with identical reaction times, who practice and train every day, one might only increase ~10% when turning 30 versus when they were 20, while the other might have a 25% increase in reaction time. It's not that the second person is bad or worked less hard, it's just biology. But either way, everyone will slow down significantly by the time they are 30...
This guy invested 100k to grow his twitch channel, the question is will he get a return.
Probably not, it's twitch afterall
He could use it to write off his taxes, so there’s that. He could also prob sell his account for some returns.
@@jakubmarz You can make millions on Twitch. Don't forget streamers with just a few hundred viewers manage to make a profit on stupid money sucking games like Hearthstone.
I seriously doubt it if people are watching him because he’s spending money then he will have to spend money to keep their audience happy
I do not have any respect for mobile game addicts like him. He does not know anymore whats ok and whats normal for us normal people with normal jobs and normal salarys Edit: Look at his channel. Another addict with Mobile Games only with so much Gacha i get broke just looking at them alone.
"You simply can't pull out your device and play diablo 2 or diablo 3 while you're in the airport"
Bro is throwing away $100k instead of $300 for a switch and buying diablo 2 & 3
That alone makes me want to buy those games. Haven't played any of these dungeon games in a long time.
With modern game streaming you can literally do that if you have a decent signal or good wifi. Just pull out the phone and stream whatever game you want to play, minor latency isn't a big deal in a game like diablo anyway.
Just bought MH rise with the wife and it's been a blast.
That's what I was thinking 🤣. I paid like $8 for diablo 3 on the switch and I can get all his stuff for that $8 but in like a week of casual playing
Pay to win should be illegal
$100,000 would literally change my life, this guy does it in a seemingly casual way. smh.
Thats what pisses me off. Spending that amount on a stupid pay to win game.
I know, that i would sleep a hell of a lot better at night, if i had 100k just laying around. And i also know, that i wouldn't waste it on a bloody mobile game.
... but i also know, that with me, that kind of money would last decades before i ran out and this guy essentially just went ahead and burned it
Even 10,000 would change my life now. I'm poor af lol.
@@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148 fr spending even $100 on a MOBILE GAME still seems absolutely ridiculous. I’ll never understand how some of these people live like this
ye and he will make a million with this investment, just like asmon makes with this video right here right now, thanks to you and me, creating traffic = money
I love how he tries to give himself the moral high ground.
Imagine being so stinking rich that spending 100k on a video-game is peanuts whilst people have to live on the streets, children starve, people ruining their future with debts because they can't pay for their medical bills or literally dying because they can't afford their insulin and STILL think everything is fine.
That pathetic dude spent 100k on literal virtual pixel garbage of no value whatsoever whilst other people struggle financially on a daily basis.
I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror anymore if I was him.
@@FeuerblutRM I don't judge him for spending $100k on microtransactions, filthy rich people spend on much worse things. If I was rich enough to use 100k as pocket change I'd probably do the same, but I don't think it's something to be proud of OR something to encourage. This isn't something to show off as a badge of honor. If you enjoy it and you can afford it go ahead, but don't put yourself on a high horse because you're rich and have leeway to make poor decisions with your money.
Blizzard had a GREAT opportunity to seriously change the mobile platform. They could have brought a better structure like a flat 15-20 bucks for the game, or have small subscription fee to play seasons or something like 3.49 a month, etc, but instead they chose GREED and decided to solidify predatory mobile MTX and solidifying it as "normal" or "mainstream". It doesn't HAVE to be different. It's purposely designed to be broken so you pay to fix it, like you said!
This is the problem with games now, you pay to have and play everything and then you have nothing to do and people get bored and leave and you who spent a lot of money can't leave, apart from Diablo veterans we loved Diablo because everything was achieved by farming even if it took you weeks that was the fun and those who spend money will never know how much fun that is
"I didn't punch you, I hit you" - mobile game developers
Kremlin level of mental gymnastics
They pledged to make sure that you couldn't buy power.
The first minutes of his video actually held the most important information and made me understand his thinking:
This guy was once really really good at video games but now he isnt anymore, so he spends 100k $ to compensate that.
It is about keeping the identity that he had for like 20 years or more and thats a big problem, this guy is addicted.
And by trying to convince others that the game is NOT pay to win and he is just a pro gamer who likes spending money on games he tries to reinforce that.
This is not competetive anymore, its financial. The target group for pay to win mobile games are people with addiction problems and/or people who earn a lot of money but do not have plenty of time, so they can compensate for that by paying. Surely, the market is smaller but you do not need a big target group when 10 players give u 1000000$, makes sense huh?
And its a huge problem especially regarding younger generations who might suffer because they dont have the capabilities to spend these amounts of money or because they get introduced to gambling. This game might have a bigger impact on the gaming industry and the society than most people realize especially since the Western countries usually reacted very allergic to pay to win/gambling addictive games. To me, it feels like Diablo Immortal is the attempt to introduce pay to win to the Western market.
And just as a side note: It reminds me of bodybuilders who pump themselves up with steroids to compete or fulfill unrealistic expectations.
His character is literally on steroids.
You're right pretty much about everything, it's a big push with probably the "best" franchise they could think of. The good thing is that if it fails we'll likely resist the next waves. Help by spreading the word wise one, support our beloved quality products so they know we're still here. A lot of asian releases either don't even make it to us or tone down the p2w, and since our society is technically getting better the more hours of work we cut the better the hobby environment will be and being immune to the work-sleep-work eastern loop could mean partial immunity potentially forever
Sounds like a motive. Paying to get get to the top.
He probably wouldnt be good enough for most competitive games anymore, If the goal is to be at the absolute top.
Well if this ain't the truth i don't know what is
I used-ta-could throw a pig skin a quarter mile
the steroids parts is off the analogy maybe u could say that about amateurs and gymbros, deff not about pros
This guy is on another level lmao. I cant believe people defending this, this game makes any other mobile games look like saint lol
Diablo Immortal doesn't even pale in comparison to other mobile games XD.. paragon level far exceeds money, unless ofc its 100k lol, but yeah clash of clans? that game is even mild in mobile games and thats infintely worse than diablo immortal..
Hes literally talking about the itch... He's a fking gambling addict...
Meanwhile if you look up, there actually exagear enables you to play D2 Lod and devilutionx gives you d1 with hellfire for your phone. 100 percent free. So there is that too for your mobile gaming and shit
o wow you must be new to mobile gaming then because this is literally the standard since over a decade
Thats funny, it also makes 10-20 year old pc games look very good in comparison.
There is just no middle anymore lol. Spending 100k in a lot of ways is absolutely ridiculous. But gluttony exists in everything. Also there is nothing wrong with someone enjoying a game and throwing a few bucks at it to enchance your playtime and support the ppl playing this game.
It's staggering to me how absolutely oblivious people who are financially very well off have no concept of the value of money and how detrimental these kind of predatory games are.
yup
Imagine thinking spending 100000$ on Diablo Immortal is an "investment". Investments have a return. That return might be a slight, or even major loss. But there's a return.
I see the word "investment" thrown around all time in such a stupid way, but this dude might be the worst use of the word I've ever heard lol.
if hes using it in the sense that his diablo content brings in money you can think of it akin to a streamer using money to upgrade their setup and thus making making a return because of higher quality stream. Not defending anything Im just trying to stretch to find the only way i can possibly just to see it from his pov
@@minami_janai If you want that perspective to matter you need to at least break even.
@@ogaimon3380 yeah if I "invest" in some salmon or avacodos, I'm not expecting an ROI in monetary terms, but maybe in terms of life expectancy or health or food enjoyment.
@@ogaimon3380 The psychologists that create these schemes Asmongold often talks about are hoping that'll be people's perspective on the matter. They thank you for falling for the scheme, much appreciated.