Friday Favorites: Is Cheese Harmful or Healthy? Compared to What?
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- What about the studies that show cheese has neutral or positive health effects?
Everything we eat has an opportunity cost. Every time we put something in our mouths, it’s a lost opportunity to put something even healthier in our mouth.
Just because study is industry-funded doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad science, though. Check out How the Dairy Industry Designs Misleading Studies (nutritionfacts.org/video/how-t....
Here is the series I mentioned in the video:
• The Saturated Fat Studies: Set Up to Fail (nutritionfacts.org/video/the-...)
• The Saturated Fat Studies: Buttering Up the Public (nutritionfacts.org/video/the-...)
If we don’t eat dairy, though, what about osteoporosis? Check out: Is Milk Good for Our Bones? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-m....
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But once the dairy industry has their foot in the door of the FDA and our corrupt grifting politicians, how do we get it out? We can’t. All we can do is to refuse to buy it and kiss our tax dollars goodbye. It’s a shame. Those dollars could do so much good to improve our health.
@@chazlon5061 cry yourself a river since we already know what to avoid but you don't 🙂
@@chazlon5061 maybe you should whine because you know nothing
I never understood why a pizza, already laden with cheese, needs a cheese stuffed crust!
Have you evet tasted one? Very addicting. I wouldn't go near one today. I'd be off and running. Don't ever want to go through the 'getting off it' again, so it goes on my abstinence list. Buh by.
To sell more cheese?
Haven't you ever had pizza quattro formaggi? I still remember my first in Italy, its like my top food memory. I did not know what i was ordering, and got this pizza that simply had a puddle of cheese on it. It was amazing.
@@Nobody-Nowhere Yes I have eaten that in Italy also but there it is a thin crust and less cheese because the cheese has deep flavor. American pizza cheese is bland. Overall if I order pizza I skip the cheese because it isn't a favorite of mine. I think the American stuffed crust pizzas are a ridiculous excess of plastic, tasteless cheese.
@@gelbsucht947 Yes! To make the product even more fattening.
Dairy is meant baby cows. End of story. Why doesn’t drinking the squeezings from the boobs of another animal seem gross to people? It does to me.
People are disgusted by the thought of drinking human breast milk after being weened but will drink from a cow?!
when i hear people say "yeah but CHEESE tho I want my CHEESE, I'd rather d/ie than give up on CHEESE" I say "make it with your own t/its then!" , don't steal it from other animals who get abused just for your gluttony ;-) (i say the same with any animal-derived product lol)
@Flying Fists human milk is meant for babies, like cow milk is for baby cows. There’s just no need as an adult.
And plants are made for cows. So?
@@wocket42 you’re clearly confused.
Peanut butter vs cheese is no debate, even my dog agrees peanut butter is the best thing ever.
My dog goes crazy over cheese
As long as you skip the Skippy
You mean processed food peanut butter
@@camarosspr A beneficial processed food unlike ultra processed foods.
When it’s not compared to anything, and examined on its own for human health, it’s not a good thing.
Those are the facts. Dairy has had the most successful lobbyists. Dairy was the hardest for me to get but I am so much healthier.
I love blueberries.
Your brilliantly educational videos have shifted my nutritional paradigm, but how on ever is this going to become accepted mainstream and in a decent time frame?
I know so many people who think dairy and meat are healthy. Yet are on all the pharmacy for all the usual suspects.
Dairy is good for baby cows. However, it is very 'deathy' to humans.
Dairy is not deadly. It's unhealthy.
@@sherril.562 yeah, they're unhealthy but won't kill you on contact.
I'm not saying this to be annoying, I'm saying this because when you start preaching outside the choir and tell people they will literally die if they eat cheese, they will laugh at you and point to the obvious fact that the last pizza they ate didn't actually kill them.
@@kazuoua It is understandable where one is coming from.
However, let's not forget to acknowledge the species on the verge of death and the species that are now forever gone---through our continued needless exploitation of other animals such as the dairy industry. And of course, the very cows and calves themselves.
Thereby, threatening humanity by the loss of biodiversity.
@@monicasong427 but there are more cows thanks to the dairy industry.
Also, by that logic, shouldn't we be more concerned with human's favoritism towards cats? Apex predators that threaten the small fauna in most environments.
I'm joking, however, because that really is not the question to answer. If I have to exterminate an entire species of malaria carrying mosquitoes to save human lives I would do it in a heart beat. My concern is not the "loss of biodiversity" but the loss of human life.
@@kazuoua @jon My reply was to your response stating dairy is not deadly.
Animal agriculture is leading cause of ecological destruction which is a direct threat to human lives.
It is a misunderstanding to think the loss of biodiversity is separate from the health of human beings.
"Compared to what?" Is always the question to ask.
YOU spit the highest level of facts out there! Thanks so much
Thank you for this video.
What about Yogourt? I haven't seen anything bad against it. Only thing that I miss from cutting dairy.
Thank you so much for sharing
As always... Great job!
Here in Romania, buying cheeses compares with buying a coffee. We also have goat and sheep cheeses. As for the USA, money talks.
These are all observation studies--- to know for sure, we need double bliind tests on population in say some developing countries and adminster "chesse" like drugs over a few yeras to see if their bodies deterioirate on a range of health indicators...
The problem is that people consume more fat would naturally reduce consumption on carbs - and so the effect of carlorie restrictions kick in.
You are a HERO, Dr Greger.
Great video! 👍👍👍 #BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
"Dairy, dairy, dairy... ok then" 🤣
Well done!!
Dear Michael Greger can you make an video about even and odd saturated fat theory promoted by Robert Lustig MD?
Nope, nope, nope dairy is not good for anyone! Even if it’s organic or fermented, well that’s my POV on it anyway.
It's also the science. It's made from the milk of another species. How stupid are people?
Maybe this is just me but dairy always fs up my skin
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@@jetsofaqua2206 it sure does! As an eczema sufferer all my life, I definitely hated milk but could eat cheese even though I knew it wasn’t good for me. Now that I gave it up years ago those little bits of my skin issues cleared up !
@@jetsofaqua2206 When I was younger I bought into the whole drink lots of milk to be manly and grow big muscles nonsense. It ended up with me having these cystic pimples on my cheeks that I would jokingly call volcanoes. It was gross. I wish I had known about how bad it was sooner. Now I just have the scars to remind me lol.
Nice video. Argumented.
I'm from the UK, does anyone know if the government in UK does the same thing, giving hand outs to junk food/dairy industry?
I believe all of this. I just plain *like* cheese! I seldom eat it anymore, but I want to.
Say no to cow teat squirt products.
I say yes!!!! I’ll eat your share.
@@drewfeld836 I will collect your Social Security then. 🤑
@@wadeb47540 you never know…..I might be collecting yours.
@@drewfeld836 ya, but it would be because wade got hit by a car, not because of heart disease or diabetes.
Around 75% of the world is lactose intolerant. I wonder if many of these health studies only used subjects who could properly digest lactose. Most white/people of European descent are able to properly digest lactose. But they only make up about 16% of the world population. All other major ethnicity groups I am aware of are lactose intolerant by up 100% (as adults)
humans lose the ability to digest lactose when they are weaned from their mother's milk. There is no reason for people to consume milk for the remainder of their lives but for some odd reason, some people think it's a good idea to drink milk from another species of animal. Then the dairy industry blames the population when they can't digest cow milk.
Excellent. Come on now industry shills ... lets have some of that expensively acquired snark your clients enjoy so much.
I would be interested in learning more about cultured/fermented dairy with obesity prevention, and reduction of the risk of metabolic disorders and immune-related pathologies. More studies are needed I believe. Cheese and Kefir has been around for 4,000 years. Not as old as bread as 30,000 years, however people have been eating this food as sustenance for a very long time. I strongly believe in everything in moderation and consume veggies with everything.
So, it's ok to hit yourself in the head with a hammer as long as you do it in moderation. Got it.
@@soyboy2238 that’s the stupidest analogy I have ever heard. No relevance. I hope that is not your best.
Because dairy consumption carries the nearly the same risk as smoking it'd be like saying "we need more studies on fermented cigarettes people have been smoking tobacco for thousands of years sustaining them through rough times". While dairy may have been a great source of calories for survival in the past it carries no benefit for optimal health.
@@chikkmagneet You are incorrect. The research is not yet conclusive. You are making assumptions and jumping to conclusions. Not good science. Let the studies speak for themselves over time with meta analysis.
@@drewfeld836 no fermentation can offset the hormones, cholesterol, saturated fat, animal protein and the extremely high content of dioxins and other pollutants accumulating in animal bodies and their secretions!
Would be interested to see your thoughts on whether fish/seafood is healthy. Now sure, technically it's not healthy, mostly due to contaminants such as mercury, led, plastics, but compared to other foods, similarly to this video. A lot of people believe that because of their Omega 3 content, it's good for health, even though the negative effects of consuming fish outweight the positives, especially when it comes to bioaccumulation.
Check out his site. Tons of info on that! 😎😎
@@moresalad221 Well, videos are easier to comprehend. I find reading to be incredibly mind-numbing, but sure, ill check it out.
@@Kristers_K He attaches all the sources to his videos too. My favorite part 🎉
@@moresalad221 His videos are quite informative indeed and he himself is quite educated on health and nutrition. He and many others,including various activists fighting against animal exploitation, are the reason i've been vegan for many years. That and it completely changed my health, which was a complete mess prior.
@@Kristers_K That's awesome! I love stories like that because it proves that a whole foods dietary intake lifestyle can change someone's life for the better.
No comparison! Dairy is scary! Hormone city like all animal food!
Its on its own class when it comes to hormones, like 14x of milks estrogen content.
@@Nobody-Nowhere Yes and I remember hear some years ago, the ban body doesn't absorb the animals hormones , what a lie!!!
yeee, ... thanks again thanks 🙏🏻
Cheese is laden with sodium which is not healthy and also fat which is not healthy. I found I like the vegan cheese and when I gave it to my meat and dairy eating niece, she said it was much tastier than reular cheese made with milk. Makes great toasted cheese or good even by itself.
fat is not unhealthy, what brand?
I would like to know as well only because quite often vegan cheese is disgusting.
Its not laden with sodium. There is between 1.5 to 2.5 grams of sodium per 100 grams of cheese. This overdramatization really doesn't help your cause.
Vegan cheese is highly processed with high saturated fat oils and unhealthy pro inflammatory ingredients It might be even worse than meat itself. And FYI, unless your on the Dash diet it is not high in sodium. You are very misinformed.
You need sodium and fat in healthy amounts
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Ah cheese, my old friend. The only thing I miss since going plant-based.
I did as well for five years. Then I bought a lot of different cheeses on a uk holiday. They all tasted like gone off fat. Cured!
@@sherril.562 vegan cheeses are just sad... just forget about it, and put hummus, pesto etc. on your pizza.
Nutritional yeast doesn’t melt like cheese, but I find its savory taste quite satisfying. Plus, it’s full of beta-glucan which is a very good prebiotic.
@@sherril.562 Its not cheese, just forget about it. Let it go. Just sad when people try to make these weird vegan versions. How about just make good food, stop obsessing about the foods you used to eat.
Sir make videos on brain memory by meta analaysis
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Nothing is ever this simple. I know a couple of life-long vegetarians in their 70s both suffering from cardiac and cancer related health issues. I think the human body makes up for what you deliberately miss in the diet resulting in an inflamed state which is unnatural.
Vegetarians consume cheese and eggs sooo...
@@LeckieInstallsLondon BS
To say someone is a vegetarian or vegan only points to what they don't eat, not what they do eat. You could eat donuts all day an call yourself a vegetarian.
Damn
Does anyone have advice for substituting cheese? I recently cut out meat, but am struggling to cut out cheese and eggs (I replaced dairy milk with soy milk). Both flavour wise and nutritionally, what are some good ways to replace these things?
Don't try to replace stuff, discover new foods.
No! Cheese is not an expensive product in europe, which is consumed only or mainly by richer and better educated people!
While it’s true that older, mature cheeses are more expensive, happily we can all afford some cheese without resorting to spray-can muck, or those manufactured slices that are like plastic. But I think it’s also true that in Europe, we have access to a lot more affordable fruit and veg. I hope this doesn’t change because of the food price increases.
Peanut (butter) is not a nut
Wish big dairy and government would just invest in lab grown whey and casein milk
for what?
Is vegan cheese made with cocconut oil better and healty than cheese??
Most likely not but we don’t pretend vegan cheese is healthy.
no it's not healthy. but to be honest, most of them are gross anyway. nothing beats homemade soft cashew cheese
@@anamimi18 Woah, is this a thing? What recipe do you use?
@@MisoAntro I think this is the most important point. Anyone looking to turn vegan and comparing their usual diet to that of the BS vegan products that can "Substitute" is always going to find it's not a great switch. Most likely still better, but not optimal.
Coconut oil is still full of saturated fat. Not good if that’s what you want to avoid for better cardio vascular health. I think it’s worse than cheese since at least you get some good stuffs from cheese such as more protein, post-biotics (like butyrates and vitamin K from the fermentation process)
Goat cheese any better?
"Better" is comparitive with good. So saying that goat cheese is better implies that cow cheese is good. A better question would be whether goat cheese is any less bad. It might be but it's sure not good for anyone but the kid.
ok who else is supposed to fund dairy studies except dairy research universities?
that being said, ya i know this study is biased but cmon 😗
Dairy universities? 🧐
I'm only half way through the video but it seems its centered on the fault in cheese studies. I am sure cheap American style cheese is bad but no one is studying raw, grass fed A2 cheese (goat, sheep, buffalo). I am sure the dopamine boost you get when enjoying quality cheese outweighs and negative aspects IF you have an anti-inflammatory diet to begin with.
How do you feed cheese grass? I hate that grass fed term, it hides from us the fact animals are exploited and their babies are killed for humans to take the mothers milk.
Though I confess to nibbling a little piece of cheese now and then, I believe cheese is nutritional garbage but PLEASE QUIT referring to peanut butter as healthy
Aside from very few brands, the crap always has a high percentage of palm or soy oil along with added sugar.
READ THE LABELS!
If the ingredients are anything but peanuts, its not peanut butter, its just another processed junkfood
@@LeckieInstallsLondon ,
Agreed.
What I've learned about dairy through experiments with my 'body lab' is this; dairy eaten WITH sugar or WHEAT is very detrimental. Studies never compare these factors. They examine them on their own but I've never seen a study that shows results with and without sugar or wheat eaten at the same time. I was vegan and became one point (119) from my blood sugar being pre-diabetic. I went Keto- 80% fat, 20% protein and 5% carbs. I lost 80 lbs. in 6 months. Now normal blood sugar, good A1c, lower blood pressure. Erased ALL MY INFLAMMATION. I eat lots of organic CREAM. Where I used to not be able to walk two blocks before and was scheduled for hip surgery, which has been put off indefinitely, I can easily go 4-5 miles. I'm 67. Still, don't drink milk! Only dairy fat is good. Also, check labels and avoid Carrageenan. It DESTROYS the Microbiome. Banned in Europe it's in a LOT of dairy stuff as a thickener. FDA sucks - Food pyramid sucks! All the lobbyists are keeping you SICK.
Carrageenan is not banned in Europe. In Europe it's in 100% of all non-organic cream, but forbidden in organic cream (I think). I think it's fine if you eat cream with it once a month, but fir daily use, get the organic one. But needs to be fresh!
@@wocket42 Though it's been used for hundreds of years and is indeed organic, there's damning health research around Carrageenan, suggesting that it is not necessarily safe to eat. It's been linked to IBD, IBS, rheumatoid arthritis and colon cancer and is thus banned in the European Union.Mar 25, 2021
One cup of milk has 13 grams of sugar. That's about 1/2 of what's in a cup of soda which is almost pure sugar. Your causal fallacy is like saying smoking a pack is fine but if you add 4 more cigs to that pack a day, it will be very detrimental, lol.
@@buckmurdock2500 Not quite. Your analogy is oversimplified. Much like most replies these days... not looking at the scientific and nuanced approach. For just one point the FAT in cream causes almost zero if not zero insulin response. Milk with milk sugars, casein, causes huge insulin and flammatory response. As I stated 'don't drink milk'.
USA has the best government money can buy.
you say healthier compare to what and then you follow later on that cheese is associated with CVD, so it's not healthier than nothing it's maybe not that bad compared to... or less worse than...
And what about dog milk? #carnism
If dairy fat is more harmful to hearts than vegetable oil, is it better for your heart to eat ice cream made from palm oil than to eat ice cream made from dairy, the former being cheaper than the latter??
No, palm oil is also very high in saturated fat, which is the main culprit for bad health as found in dairy and animal fats.
Saturated fat in general fine. If you don't ear enough palmitic acids your body will make it on its own. Saturated fats can be desaturated to oleic acid ("olive oil") by the body. The human body has a tight regulation of palmitic acid. It can be interrupted by too many refined carbs, though, so keep carbs down and it's fine.
So when Cheese correlates with health benefits we should look at other indicators such as economical status, but when there is a correlation that fits right into your propaganda, like meat and CVD, then we don't look for other factors?
Correlation isn't causation, in either situations. Cherry pick much? What a fraude this guy!
anay byproduct of a *cow* got *gluten* in it
As a Dutch country girl, i take a small piece of cheese daily for the vitamine K2.
Why not take a supplement that doesn’t require animal cruelty like cheese does?
@@MisoAntro because cheese is yummy
They make money BOTH ways and they really don't care about you.
Got to fund the military somehow!
The cadence in his voice is annoying
Cheese is not expensive in Europe at all.
One single kiwifruit is about sixty cents where I live and shop, so thats a euro twenty a day for my 2 pieces of fruit(although I usually eat more than that). That could also buy me about 200 grams of cheap cheese.
You can have criticism about the health benefits or detriments of cheese, but its not considered expensive or for the rich and well off at all. That crowd are way more into the veganism, fruit smoothie, nuts or expensive meats things than they care about cheese.
What are you going on about no one is talking about the cost of cheese, but the health effects of it.
@@iPervy I guess you missed parts of the video. Maybe watch it again and pay more attention? Kinda stupid this tbh
@@jonathanhijlkema8247 OH HATCHA SAAAAAIEAAA
question:
when I eat egg or cheese (I don't know which one of them) my digestion is better than purely vegan. Is it like that because I eat too little fat on a vegan diet or just because of less fiber?
It could be fat, it could be any number of things though, depends on the composition of the rest of your diet, other health factors, psychological factors......
Ok, fat from dairy is clearly bad for cardio vascular health, but what about non-fat dairy, such as Greek yogurt or Icelandic skyr?
It's not bad for vascular health, the stuff that is bad is made by your own body via de novo lipogenesis in an uncontrolled manner (e.g. when eating too many carbs). Has nothing to do with dairy fat. So if you mean the saturated dairy fat part, that basically turns olive oil before reaching your blood.
Now make a video about kefir.
but all I eat is cheese... egg sandwiches, quesadillas
Maybe its time for a CAC scan.
Eat, and let people eat whatever they want to eat....
This is the reason we spend billions on healthcare and as a result of the farming process were destroying the climate and environment too.
A person who does not eat cheese gives an advise on cheese. Ooookey ...
A person who has never shot himself in the head, can't advice other people not to do it. You need to experience it, its the only way.
How would eating cheese make a difference to the subject here?
He doesn't eat cheese because he had learned that it's bs. I don't drink anymore, but I'm sure I drank enough in my 20's to know whatever can be deduced from eating/drinking the product? Which I doubt is much, other than how it tastes and how crappy I feel after...
Kinda like a nonsmoking doctor advising to not smoke. Better not listen
He has done the research so he can talk about the health risks. If you want advice on taste, that would require eating it regularly. But by the same logic a cheese eater doesn't necessarily know anything about the health risks.