Everybody running around a break neck speeds looking to make work, wtf? Why do we have lawns? That is so stupid. Now I gotta go outside for like an hour and push around some damn machine just to shorten the length of grass! Arrrggg! And!And! It never ends! Your going to be doing this every two weeks forever! Its like a hellscape!
infj female here. i find this intp insanely attractive 😱 the way he responds to each question, the way he considers potential ideas, his attentiveness and relatively easy going and calm demeanor! ❤️❤️
I recognised a lot of this in myself as an INTP. I have to "boot-up" every morning, so I always wake up at least an hour, maybe more, before I need to be somewhere or do something. And I find dealing with the banalities of life insanely annyoying, to the point where I put it off so long the thought of dealing makes me nauseous. I'm definitely a procrastinating sloth, but I also work extremely hard. It takes me ages to process information, I can contemplate something for days on end, sometimes because I never arrive at a concrete answer but rather have to keep collecting data. How anyone can have a concrete answer to anything is beyond me. The thing about University is very true! I feel like that is where I am meant to be, in an environment for learning and reflection, but I keep being sceptical to everything we do and that happens. I can never accept anything as it is, and question everything from why/what/where we learn to the teaching style of the lecturer. If I find something pointless (often because the value of it isn't sufficiently explained) I don't get curious about it, so I won't make an effort to learn it. But if I get curious I will work for days on end, even forget to sleep or eat. I rebell against University, but my procrastination from, say learning French, makes me learn the entire history of Western Philosophy on my own. And when I am taking International Relation courses, I will start studying psychology on my own in stead. I seem to need the Uni environment to learn, but I never read what they tell me to read, though I read in huge quntities every day. My friends can go insane when I question everything (I question the fact that I question), and they have to put up with my sudden glee at discovering the etymology of a word, or when I suddenly find the colour yellow ridiculous for no apparent reason. I'm a jack of all trades, master of none, and a sceptic. It can drive me insane how I never finish anything. I love contsantly having ideas, planning the execution of them, but sadly I never follow through. Being an INTP is amazing internally, but trying to be a part of the world can be very difficult indeed I find.
Julie Langås Holy shit hahahahaha You just described my inner world. The emphasis on being hooked on an idea for phases of days or certain amounts of time and having that voracious appetite to accumulate new and more knowledge and INTEGRATE it all! UGH the feeling of NEVER feeling like reached a conclusive conclusion/truth. I feel like maybe possibly it's my Ne that cant settle on litearlly any conclusion. Unfortunately I feel like, even like, amidst my tree branches of possibilities and possible conclusions, there is one branch and conclusion that is objectively truthful or right (as my Te dom friends will so skillfully address as their own inherent nature) for some reason, i cant really truly accept it as truth. I guess that constant skeptism about everything just paves way for more possibilities, but idk, it feels often like I'm floating in a network web of infinite interconnections of possibilities and unknowns. Hm. Idk. So aggree with being INTP is amazing internally (except the times I wish logic monologue would STOP and I could perceive instead!.) But I feel like honestly, with the way that external social economic structure is set up, we obviously need to make it out of our heads to be a dumb member of society. So although my laziness will impede and stagnate me (more so my natural tendency to stay in my head), I am in a process of trying to force myself to be more creative and proactive in tangible external world. Huzza. >.
Julie Langås I was lucky enough to find an INTJ to hang out with, so I'm good on the friends level. One good friend is better than having multiple... "bad ones". (I don't know what else to call them, but I know they're not bad.) And luckily for me, my parents and siblings are smart. Each of my family members are highly compatible with each other, most of us being introverted. I land directly in the middle of nine children from two parents. I have six sisters and three brothers. All of which were home schooled. Ah yes, my family is a machine. A very warm and fuzzy machine, they back me up wherever I go, and sibling rivalry was never a problem. ........Sorry, I'm getting off topic, aren't I? .__. Bad habit. My point is, I understand what you mean. I question everything, for example: "I wonder what philosophical thoughts and theories will go on in Julie's head if and when she reads this?" I love to hear the thoughts of like-minded people. :)
"intps ask questions." That's it in a nutshell. And no, these are not getcha-gotcha questions. They are questions that we as intps want to know answers to, genuinely. "I don't know. I've never thought about or considered that." IS an acceptable answer to the question for me.
The comments on this video!! THE COMMENTS!!! So intelligent, so sensible, so thought provoking and properly spelled! I LOVE YOU GUYS! I feel the need to read the entire thread like it's a homework assignment, and annotate the whole thing! I have found my friends.
INTJ here and when Mike mentioned that we ask "Gotcha!" questions, I laugh and had to pause the video. That's pretty much the only time I ever ask questions in my classes, lol. I realized it before but I'd never been able to put it into such a pithy statement so for that, and the laugh, thanks Mike.
One of the things that people don’t realize about Intp is that we are actually very determined and pragmatic, almost obsessive about things that we are interested in. The sloth is just if we don’t care, or are bored.
First minute in, I often notice that in class I think up abstract questions, but I don't ask them because they aren't directly relevant to the material we're learning. Also I worry that if I do ask the questions I think up, my classmates will get annoyed with me because I'm wasting class time. You saying you like it when your INTP students asked questions made me realize that perhaps I should speak up more and be more confident in these situations.
i think INTPs and INFPs are extremely similiar, I even thought I was an INTP for a while , then I read about the Fi function and I was like "oh, that me" lol
Wow! This was helpful! Luckily I kept a journal about 1-2 years ago. I really can emotionally relate! I think the biggest reason why I thought I was an INTP was because of my way of interacting with people. Most of the time it is on the cold side. Which I believe makes sense. After all Fi is a introverted funtion. Why would I be really warm and inviting to people? Anyway because of the coldness when ever I asked the people I was pretty close to what they thought they would assume I was a thinker. It also did not help that most of the people I am close to are not incredibly educated on typing people. Probably just should not have even asked their opinion. Thanks for your help! Now I am feeling pretty confident in my type. I might second guess myself again but for now I think I have a pretty soild answer.
Emmy Joy Haha, I think the fact you admit that you "might second guess yourself again" sounds like a P. Dismissing your friends' uneducated opinion and looking for hard evidence from your past really sounds like T. If you were F, your friends' opinions would probably hold more weight. As for your N, I'll be honest, I can't really think of anything. I myself am an INTP-so here is my requisite INTP disclaimer: I could be wrong about all of this. **mic drop**
I am a female INTP, I go to bed late at 1-2am and I wake up early at 5AM to go to work!!! I do not sleep too much. Some times I am extremely tired at night at 4am and I wake up look for the think I am analyzing and find information about it! I get along with ISTJs. We are thinkers and ISTPs are doers. They compliment us. We are no rebellious, we like to find the truth about every thing and some times politicians and people do not tell us the truth! You shouldn't lie to an INTP person. I feel like I have a big radar installed on top of my head and usually I am right about catching imperfections and superficialities..
horsetaurus intp Exactly! If pro and con are opposites, then doesn't that mean that congress is the opposite of progress? They don't even know how to be flat out honest! But instead they dodge all of our biggest questions because they know we wont like the answer.
So fascinating to watch. I can even see where as he's talking he stops paying attention to what coming out of his own mouth because he's simultaneously following six thought pathways in his head, some of which may not even be related to what he's discussing and have led to further tangents of their own.
Whenever I try to write an argumentative paper as an INTP, I always end up completely agreeing with both sides. I'll have the same number of pros and cons for each side, and since I don't really have a moral value system, I can't even give greater weight to the more morally compelling argument. The only way I can ever discount an argument is if it's not logically sound ("proof" from a "source" can work....but I'm generally skeptical) . Because of this, I usually pick a less popular position on everything and try to make people see that strong opinions are actually weak, and that it's VERY VERY hard to not be a hypocrite.
Whenever I read the comments in these types of videos, or on test results, I see a lot of people saying that they used to be something else, but then became an INTP. But looking back, I can't say I was ever anything else. From a very young age, I couldn't stop thinking about things. And being so young, the majority of my thought process was devoted to fantasy and fiction. I was horrible at school because my mind was far too preoccupied to focus on it. I hear people say that INTPs are one of, if not the most intelligent type. But if this makes any sense at all, I feel like because I have been so purely INTP my whole life, I'm bad at school. True, I see genuine use for academic subjects. Mathematics apply to most everything and can make for an excellent component of detailed description. Using it to convey the appearance of a geometric or architectural figure. Or possibly to find the statistics of simple details in a plot line. And science can't be ignored as a wonderful bridge between what we can and can not explain on a universal scale. Math and science, of course, going hand in hand. But ultimately nothing captures my attention like creative writing, sci-fi fantasy, and concept art. Story ideas run through my head like a perpetual stampede of zebras. I can tell each story apart, but to the outside observer, they blend together in a sea of black and white stripes. Constantly moving and changing, interconnecting or splitting off into their own universe. All of which I feel can only be a truly meaningful story if it has a deeply rooted philosophical core. With that in mind. I'm utterly horrible at math and science, and practically all subjects. I see their potential, and understand the primary concepts. But so far I have been unable to memorize the most important formulas. Even in the classes I like, I just can't stop procrastinating to get my homework done efficiently. My brain needs at least twenty minutes to turn on in the morning, making me late for classes, and it refuses to turn off at night, with a constant flow of inspiration. And even now I CAN'T STOP TYPING THIS STUPID COMMENT BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH I WANT TO ADD TO IT!!! I want people to want to read this, and give me an equally thought out response, but hardly anyone wants to read a novel in one youtube comment, and there are only so many INTPs that will see this..... Help.. O___o
VidralliaArchives Haha this is basically my life in a nutshell. I have an instinctive understanding for humanities and social science related subjects, but math and science elude me. I understand politics economics or philosophy much better than most people my age, but calculus? OMG the Hell is that?? Of these, my favourite is definitely Literature, and even I love fiction and stories, though my interests run mostly to mysteries and adventures rather than fantasy. I can totally relate to the procrastination problem as well, even when it comes to subjects I like. That's one of the reasons I was never good at school. I can't put myself to sleep at night or make myself wake up on time in the morning. All that being said, things really do get better as we grow older and studies become more specialised. I picked Literature as my Major/Honours subject in college, with economics and sociology on the side, and life is definitely much simpler now. Not that I don't still procrastinate, but at least, having some idea about these things, I can get by without having to study the year round, which I never did anyway, no matter how many times people told me to. When I look back, it sometimes seems amazing to me that I managed to clear school without being held back at least once. I literally never opened a textbook except for the day before the final exams.
+VidralliaArchives +Nupur Chowdhury I really identify with all of this, I feel like I've changed a lot over the years but looking back I've always thought about things and interacted with people the same sort of way. I don't have the inspiration to write a long comment such as yours, I can channel some satisfaction knowing that we have a strong understanding here, (and now as I type I'm wondering if this will end up being long) I find I can't learn what I'm not interested in, but even within something I do like, I often only want the information that answers the specific questions that I need to answer in order to complete whatever contemplative quest I'm currently on, so the subject that interests me always has a strong meaning for me, though the questions I have extend beyond conscious thought, so my interest in something often ramps up quickly as I lock onto to answers and start looking for more of them, even learning about typology the last few weeks, I've come across really good detailed explanations of some of the theories and such, but then it'll be like "whoa, too much information" and I'll try to find something interesting. I've recently figured out a sort of three layer theory of thought, the subconscious level has deep and broad understanding of many things, and is constantly making connections, it's presence can be perceived by the conscious level, and actual conscious thoughts are solidified by virtual conversations between me and myself, me an and imaginary entity, (myself disguised?) or me and someone I wish I was having this conversation with (this is often simultaneously a fantasy of having such a personal and interesting conversation with that particular person) also writing seems to draw out thought from the sub-conscious realm/level, I suppose this is well known in various forms. Then the level of conversation with an actual other person, at which point I become aware of the distinction between conscious thought and understanding, and the frustration that such a border exists. Well hopefully you get to see this reply to a comment you made in the spring, I wrote this twice because I accidentally closed the tab! (oh the agony) kept it mostly the same, it was a little more fragmented before, so maybe it's better this way, a sort of forceful second draft. I feel like this was pretty well thought out, especially given how fragmented everything feels in my conscious realm of thought. I'm keenly aware of possible grammatical errors and tangents, but I'm mostly satisfied with this, now I'm tripping over myself... I'm going to stop before I fall down a really deep rabbit hole :P ;)
Nupur Chowdhury For some reason I only saw this reply until now. And reading it makes me wish I had at least one INTP as a close friend. One of my sisters is an INTJ, another an ISTP, and one of my friends is an INTJ. We all get along great, but none of them can quite relate on the procrastinating as easily as an actual INTP could. Like the fact that I'm practically nocturnal, and am always forced to shower after everyone else because I take forever. (It's not my fault, though! I just get distracted thinking and forget to wash myself. ;_;)
zmac My gosh, all of it, I inhaled your comment like a vacuum cleaner. I have friends in the world. (happy cry) I feel the same way! I got really interested in meteorology a while back, and started looking stuff up. At first it was fascinating, but eventually the topic strayed into the mathematical things, and how they calculate it exactly, and it quickly became very boring. I was far more intrigued with how sand storms in Africa were the cause of rain in Europe. And the three layer theory of thought sounds really interesting (goes to look it up), that's exactly the kind of thing I'd get sucked into. Incidentally, I tried looking up documentaries about the human mind once, none of them were put together nearly as well as the other documentaries I've seen. One had a really annoying host, and all of them were just going over the natural instincts, how the brain reacts to fear and pain and all that, when all I wanted to know about was the creative mind. I've found the best way to learn about it, is to talk to other introverted analyst types. I've also deleted my comment before, so I can empathize with you there. I got so pissed off once when I accidentally clicked on a link in the midst of typing a long comment. Only those who put a lot of work and thought into their comments would understand. Whereas most people throw crappy, misspelled comments to the wind and don't give a care if it makes them sound like a blockhead. That is exactly why jacksfilms created "Your Grammar Sucks" videos. (They're pretty funny.)
VidralliaArchives Completely nocturnal and takes forever in the shower because I'm too busy musing about the randomest of shit? -> My life in a nutshell! :p I can hardly ever go to sleep before 3-4 in the morning, which make morning classes a nightmare. And let's just say my showers are notorious in my family!
some of us INTPS can get pretty verbal in our disagreement; it's just that the desire to continue debate fizzles out pretty quickly (that's for the INTJs)
INTP here. Yep, late sleeper, late waker (it's 3am right now). Takes me half an hour just to get out of bed and another half to actually start doing something productive.
Thank you for the video. I recently discovered my INTP'ness, that explains so much about my behavior in life until now ('m 26). I'm glad to see other people describing themselves the same way I would. It's comforting to feel like you're not alone.
This Brad guy talks almost EXACTLY like me. I think speech patterns are one way to pick out an INTP on the spot. Like myself, I feel like Brad is constantly trying to find the right word to explain his thoughts clearly, for example.
I really like this comment. Especially the idea of being true to self. I think a lot of INTPs get mislead by the school system and general population to think that their goals aren't valuable. I'm seeing more evidence that with INTPs success comes in proportion to how much we create and follow our own best paths.
I would agree this tool is helpful to understand and accept people like you said. But on the other hand, what if someone relies on this too much and meets another person, immediately assessing the newly met person. Isn't it dangerous to judge someone quickly, rather than give them an opportunity to prove themselves. However, I do agree with you that in this situation, we can understand them and adapt to the particular event.
This "rebelling against college" has been my issue for a while now, as an INTP. My main reasons are that I like independence and creating things, like my education, rather than paying for them. Having to pay for Col/Uni, even though I can use loans, put's me in a situation where I am dependent on money to be given credit for what I know, best resources to improve the world , and just to be around people who I can connect with on an intellectual level, (most are either in school/career/at home)
Low self esteem is usually caused by other people who think you should be like them, don't listen to them and find your own talents. INTP's don't 'suck', the world sucks for us. It's designed for the majority (not us) so you need to create your own space and make that part of the world yours to work the way you want it to. Specialise into something that uses your talents and make sure you implement those plans! :)
@mystdocu why not do online university? More freedom of what to study, sleep when and in whatever durations you wish, less force to conform, more quickly get to study exactly what you want to and bend assignments around your interests.
NFGeeks with Dr. Mike! You have this notion that INTJs are trying to prove their intelligence rather than contemplate. I've noticed it to be true with a lot that they like to prove to you how smart they are. But, to be fair to them, they really do try to contemplate too. They are pretty curious individuals. INTPs are pretty rebellious. They really value originality. If you give us a problem we don't really care about how you want us to do it. We will use our originality, novelty and innovation to find completely new creative and efficient ways of doing things. This is why it's important for INTPs to find an environment (usually technical work like STEM) that supports this quality in them.
Male version of me! As a female I have developed more sensitivity, but this was learned and makes sense logically in order to get to where I need to go.Having children draws on sensitivity as well...it softens and balances.
I agree with the reading thing - I do read often, but when I read I scan through some pages and skip them, especially if the author explains how a room is decorated or how a character looks like. When I read articles on the internet, I read the comments with more interest than the article itself - sometimes I do not even read the article, I just read the comments of other people who read it, because I find it interesting. College- ugh - luckily only 1 year to go.
On the note of INTPs and sleeping in... Honestly, I like to wake up quite early. I feel like I've wasted my day if I'm up past 8am. I have lately felt I may be changing, and I'm not sure if I'm mistyped, or simply didn't know myself, or if I'm simply an irregular INTP. Many have told me I'm very extroverted for an INT, and furthermore I feel I'm more of an Ne user than a Ti lead. I have also been told that I'm quite anal with regard to my work habits and that, uncharacteristically of an INTP.
Right now I feel like the social isolation is one of the worst aspects of not being in school when you are the type who is at there best socially when in school. Although I haven't tried it much, I feel online communities can only do so much. An ENTP could easily, and might even enjoy approaching strangers with their ideas. For an INTP, it is possible, but it's inconvenient. The structure of a classroom with presentations, labs, discussions, intellectual density and effort, seems unmatched.
I am 50%P and 50%J. 90%T, and 85%N. Some times I think we have sixth sense. What about the other INTPs. Can you predict thing ahead of time? We are Intuitive. It happens to me so many times, I know what is going to happen, not always but a lot of times! I do surprise people around me!
like blurting out what you are sure someone is going to say and they cannot fathom as to how you figured it out? Yeah, I don't understand why others can't do the same, I usually come to the joking conclusion of: "Stupidity!" I know I shouldn't but I'm always judging people on their intelligence. Constantly correcting people is a massive habit of mine, people think I want to pick a fight with everyone but all I want to do is offer an informed opinion.
I think we simply reconise patterns. Pretty much anything is a pattern, and once you see the pattern, you know what's gonna happen next. That is what is great about being an INTP I think. Downsides are for example watching movies. You can predict pretty a whole lot more than others can, and as an INTP I like to be SURPRISED by something new and cool.....but mostly it just goes as I thought it would, even alot of the 'mind fuck' movies, who are supposed to surprise you. Anyway..to reconise patterns is key I think to pretty much anything. Although I'm sure I'm quite T dominant, I am still able to tell if people are honest, since they portrey different behaviour if they suddenly do something different (a lie) ....their tone changes etc etc....I do not recall ever fallen for a scam or not anyone I know has betrayed me. I think we INTP's have a pretty good "radar" indeed, as someone else mentioned it
I used to work in retail and tripped newer coworkers out with that. Until one day it just kinda stopped, now sometimes I feel like someone cut off my third hand.
Focusing on your "shadow functions" is a great path towards failure. That would be like me, an INTJ, going into the performing arts. The simple fact is INTJ's suck at art unless we pick up an instrument early on. Likewise with INTP's, they might be able to fit into military structure, but they'd be really stressing their Si and Fe and not really using their Ti and Ne.
While INTPs are also logical, from an INTJ's perspective, they can ask irrelevant questions. Although pondering these questions may seem aesthetically pleasing, the extent to which any "philosophy" is true is limited to the extent the foundational principles are self evident. This is why INTJs gravitate towards natural sciences. But it is all still incredibly philosophical. (ex Quantum mechanics). I suggest "Human Action" by Ludwig von mises for a philosophical tour de force through economics.
> ask true questions of inquiry as apposed to questions that are bait. I can relate to that, normally when I ask questions it is to get a better deeper understanding of a subject usually they are very broad philosophical questions. Occasionally though people may think I have an ulterior motive like I am looking to question their views or intelligence.
I know exactly what are you talking about... I am INFJ and long time I had just the same feelings... But then I saw Dave here in some videos from NF Geeks and it was like looking in a mirror. I saw that we are pretty much the same - the style of speaking behaving... - and I was really, really glad, that there are other INFJs people too... But the best moment was when Dave said: "You know I write poetry..." and Mike: "Of course you write poetry, you are an INFJ!" By the way, I write poetry :D
You're a good interviewer. Really, that's what I was thinking all along even though I came here for the "INTP" because I am that myself. I like your voice, the way you speak, your tone, your questions etc. Keep it up I guess, heh.
Actually, you can. Psychology relies very heavily on generalisability. Whilst it can't show nuances of an individual's personality, it gives a good general idea of the behaviour and cognition of each type. If we were unable to generalise people, the likes of the bystander effect, Stockholm syndrome and stereotyping would not exist.
Questions that, in my experience, either get us real answers or expose holes in theories for everyone else. I've been told that, despite my inability to counsel people like an NF, my thought process sort of breaks the intellectual ice for everyone else in the conversation, or disrupt flawed logic without attacking it. I'd like to directly help sometimes, sure, but having that special niche (at least with my friends) makes me feel purposeful. It's a very INTP satisfaction.
As a INTP you basically summed up perfectly, but there is TON of perks to being INTP as well. My dad is a INTJ and I think I would rather have my personality type.
Being an INTP in the military would be very trying. There are lots of positives about being an INTP though. I'm still a relatively young person but as I grow older I'm starting to become more comfortable with my personality. It might be interesting for you to know that of all the personality types, INTPs are the most prolific inventors. Try to settle on a technical career with interesting problems and you won't have any trouble being productive.
I'm an intp, almost sure I'm infp, yet I don't always need sources, I tend to base myself in pure logic, and expect everyone else to understand and agree with me because it simple logic (a bad habit of mine).
the question about quiet rebellion was also quite astute. we hate the jumping through hoops, dotting eyes and stating the obvious that may academic exercises demand.
i now see why alot of infp's love intp's. some of my coolest friends were intp but i got annoyed because i found them a little slow in working through an verbalising things, though they were all brilliant minds
You have to take a taoist approach. The more you become aware of your faults and limitations the more options you have and the more growth can be achieved. Your personality limitations are consistent over time, so really getting in touch with them is the key because they are not going anywhere. There is nothing comfortable at truly acknowledging your limitations. But you cannot leave the box until you acknowledge there is actually a box and the box is real. That is how you transcend.
I think part of the reading thing is that INTP's use Ne, whereas, for example, INTJ's use Ni, which makes INTJ's way more receptive in general to big loads of idea-information regarding a particular topic; Ne on the other hand causes us to want to express "our own version" of a given idea that we come into contact with, since we usually get this idea that our version is more precise (part of it is that we understand it better when we can dig into all the definitions of words and such).
One of my closest friends is an INTP! They are great :). For some reason most of my friends are NTs (lots of INTJs and one INTP). I am married to an INTJ but sometimes I wish he had a p function instead ot the j (because he has a hard time relaxing).
I'm an INTP and I ask questions of people that I know the answer to, however I do it to test the other person. I like to know if the other person is going to BS me or how they react to situations where I know they don't know the answer.
Astrology, is based upon Barnum-Statements first coined by J.c Barnum, its a statement that applies to most people; the same is true for MBTI, but in regards to a specific temperament (permanently affects their behavior). A currently ongoing study by Jerome Kagan, an american psychologist, found that there were noticeable changes in low-reactive and high-reactive temperament at 4 months old, which was an excellent predictor of introversion/extroversion. variation is limited, by the framework.
I'm an into that reads a lot" I can concentrait when I'm interested otherwise, good luck. But yes I do wake up late a lot but I don't need a minute or two to adjust or what you said, I literally just burst awake with a burning question or a when I have a dream contemplating that or immediately resuming the book Im almost to the end of
i would like to hear more about the procrastination that comes along with intp orientation. some of this procrastination is borne of the rebellion you speak of, some of it influenced by our loathing of the mundaneness of execution, a bit by our distractibility but i think there is also an element of fear that comes from the notion of completion. any thoughts on this last notion...
We ALL should stay in our lane!!! Great way to put it. I am a big believer in this and that is a common theme here at NFGeeks. NF's are particularly bad at this sometimes, driving the wrong way in the NT lane doomed to have a terrible accident.
definitely takes quite a while to wake up, usually something like 30-60 mins, sometimes even 1.5 hours. agree with about everything else brad said. but its not nice to pick on NFs(unless they make the mistake of challenging you ofc :D), INTJs are much more fun for this purpose, except that they tend to get all emo and not realize it, which can be quite annoying. Great video and keep up the good work. -INTP
No. This is exactly why I do not like typing through the functions. It always ends up a miss. If read Nietzsche, his style is far to emotion laden and poetic for any NT. He is most likely an INFJ for that reason.
YEA!!! you're back! Finally Don't like the beard though, but really like your stuff mike. I could relate to Brad, and this video show how distinct NTs and NFs are. NF are trying to make a great discussion while engaging with the video, while the NTs are trying to discern the truth, literally stuck in their head with no intention of making the video entertaining but i don't know, i could be wrong
This is why I do like typing via the functions: I notive in Nietzsche his style is perhaps to self contradictory or poetic to be a T dominant. However he could still be an NT; I think his style is a testament to him prefering N over T.
I can perfectly relate to Brad in this video. I am a stereotypical INTP myself...It's amazing to see how behaviors are similar across cultures.....Continuing with your thoughts on arrogance...I would love to learn if knowledge and arrogance are correlated..I think ...in most cases...yes....
I'm an INTP and I absolutely love college, I get to talk about the things I care about and everyone has to listen :) Challenging the professors and often identify with them is pretty fun too. I hated the gen eds though, I couldn't stand the memorization aspects of college.. mostly the things I never cared about.
As for the philosophy thing goes, the INTJ vs. INTP temperament reminds me of mathematical logicians and the emergence of "analytic philosophy." The problem with analytic philosophy is that it must be grounded in self-evident principles for the formal arguments to have any meaning. Bertrand Russel had the right intuition about philosophy and that it sort of meandered endlessly.
Further, on the topic of sleep, my brothers and I have discussed this and theorized that, deep thought, just takes a lot out of you. How many people are taking their thoughts to the depth that an INTP does every waking moment? Not many, if any at all. Constant mental exercise can be much more wearying than it's physical counterpart. The only person I've met who has a similar sleeping structure, and is of a different type, is my INFJ boyfriend.
Personally I find INTPs to be most interesting! And to add to the positive attributes I find they have a great sense of humor and they're not easy to piss off either.
I've confused myself so much over the last 24 hours over my seeming split INTP/INTJ tendencies. For years, I was certain about being an INTJ but there are some very similar behaviors in INTPs with very subtle differences. Both are not greatly emotional, always seem wrapped up in thought, have a big picture view, etc. There may be something about the functions, but I can't grasp how it is manifesting in me. And I just looked down at the comments and noticed this. Seems to be a common confusion.
I prefer this post, the other is a giant appeal to academic authority. Anyway, your distinction between NF and NT thought processes is identical to the Jungian distinction between Sensing and Intuition. Except for the logical part, as that's not a function of Perception. Of course a thinker will be more attuned to logic. However, it is Intuition that is metaphorical, abstract and non-linear. Furthermore, only neurotic characters lose access to their feeling or thinking functions.
Yeah dude, I also brought up this opinion towards my friend who was really into the personality types. I supposed the only thing that makes this topic more "reliable" than astrology is that it's a majority of ppl have accepted it. But people did honestly believe in astrology too.. So i think it's nice and convenient to have this personality type, but there's room for growth and in science "there is always an exception to the rule."
"there are things in life that can't be explained" is like nails on a chalk board to me! The existential dread! So many philosophical rabbit holes that I've dove down and couldn't find the bottom. It's exhausting and frustrating that I can't seem to find an idea or system that I can believe in, because I'll just take it apart. Dogmatic people, both atheists and theists, seem to have an easier time. Most atheists I've known have some kind of moral framework that they find satisfying, or at least it appears so.
See this makes me think that even though I'm pretty sue I'm an INTP, I must be really damn close to being an INFP, because fuck sources. I mean I like to have a backing for my thoughts, but I hate doing any kind of citation. And a lot of times my impressions are just as valuable to me as source material in an argument. It's hard to tell where I lie, but I don't think I'm as full blown an INTP as the type is normally described.
I do something similar, not because I'm closer to INFP, (I'm most definitely INTP) but because I'm just lazy. If somebody says something that sounds reasonable but doesn't have a source I'll usually take them at their word, however I will go home and do my own research on the subject if it interests me, if it doesn't, then I just dont care. If something sounds like it could be untrue our faulty logic I'll ask where they heard it but I don't require a full blown MLA citation.
+ArcaneInsignia13 Our blood type determine 20% of recessive character..For example if you O blood type, you probably have 20% Feeling and 80% Thinking.
Trust me. I'm INTP and don't give a crap about sources or work cited pages. I trust I get a passing grade by how in depth I go and show a grasped concept. I mean, I still use sources, but always have the crappiest work cited pages, I just care about the paper and if the flow of thought was easily understood. I was actually wondering if he is an ISTP, but I don't have any grounds to back that up. I guess just because of how cool he was. In my mind I imagine INTP to have a more agitated composure. At least I do.
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I do not suffer from laziness!
I enjoy every minute of it.
I am a INTP and I work a lot. I once worked all day two years ago.
Everybody running around a break neck speeds looking to make work, wtf?
Why do we have lawns? That is so stupid. Now I gotta go outside for like an hour and push around some damn machine just to shorten the length of grass! Arrrggg! And!And! It never ends! Your going to be doing this every two weeks forever! Its like a hellscape!
hahaha!!
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infj female here.
i find this intp insanely attractive 😱
the way he responds to each question, the way he considers potential ideas, his attentiveness and relatively easy going and calm demeanor! ❤️❤️
INTPs are awesome. Very open-minded, and willing to explain themselves, if you'll only take a moment to ask and listen.
Also, do any other INTP's have a problem with procrastination?
Haha...story of my life.
Hte TsiehtA That in itself is probably the biggest issue
Hte TsiehtA i do, its so bad :(
I procrastinated life
Um, no. I have no problem at all with my procrastination. 😁
I recognised a lot of this in myself as an INTP. I have to "boot-up" every morning, so I always wake up at least an hour, maybe more, before I need to be somewhere or do something. And I find dealing with the banalities of life insanely annyoying, to the point where I put it off so long the thought of dealing makes me nauseous. I'm definitely a procrastinating sloth, but I also work extremely hard. It takes me ages to process information, I can contemplate something for days on end, sometimes because I never arrive at a concrete answer but rather have to keep collecting data. How anyone can have a concrete answer to anything is beyond me. The thing about University is very true! I feel like that is where I am meant to be, in an environment for learning and reflection, but I keep being sceptical to everything we do and that happens. I can never accept anything as it is, and question everything from why/what/where we learn to the teaching style of the lecturer. If I find something pointless (often because the value of it isn't sufficiently explained) I don't get curious about it, so I won't make an effort to learn it. But if I get curious I will work for days on end, even forget to sleep or eat. I rebell against University, but my procrastination from, say learning French, makes me learn the entire history of Western Philosophy on my own. And when I am taking International Relation courses, I will start studying psychology on my own in stead. I seem to need the Uni environment to learn, but I never read what they tell me to read, though I read in huge quntities every day. My friends can go insane when I question everything (I question the fact that I question), and they have to put up with my sudden glee at discovering the etymology of a word, or when I suddenly find the colour yellow ridiculous for no apparent reason. I'm a jack of all trades, master of none, and a sceptic. It can drive me insane how I never finish anything. I love contsantly having ideas, planning the execution of them, but sadly I never follow through. Being an INTP is amazing internally, but trying to be a part of the world can be very difficult indeed I find.
Julie Langås
Holy shit hahahahaha You just described my inner world. The emphasis on being hooked on an idea for phases of days or certain amounts of time and having that voracious appetite to accumulate new and more knowledge and INTEGRATE it all! UGH the feeling of NEVER feeling like reached a conclusive conclusion/truth. I feel like maybe possibly it's my Ne that cant settle on litearlly any conclusion. Unfortunately I feel like, even like, amidst my tree branches of possibilities and possible conclusions, there is one branch and conclusion that is objectively truthful or right (as my Te dom friends will so skillfully address as their own inherent nature) for some reason, i cant really truly accept it as truth. I guess that constant skeptism about everything just paves way for more possibilities, but idk, it feels often like I'm floating in a network web of infinite interconnections of possibilities and unknowns. Hm. Idk. So aggree with being INTP is amazing internally (except the times I wish logic monologue would STOP and I could perceive instead!.) But I feel like honestly, with the way that external social economic structure is set up, we obviously need to make it out of our heads to be a dumb member of society. So although my laziness will impede and stagnate me (more so my natural tendency to stay in my head), I am in a process of trying to force myself to be more creative and proactive in tangible external world. Huzza. >.
Julie Langås I was lucky enough to find an INTJ to hang out with, so I'm good on the friends level. One good friend is better than having multiple... "bad ones". (I don't know what else to call them, but I know they're not bad.) And luckily for me, my parents and siblings are smart. Each of my family members are highly compatible with each other, most of us being introverted. I land directly in the middle of nine children from two parents. I have six sisters and three brothers. All of which were home schooled. Ah yes, my family is a machine. A very warm and fuzzy machine, they back me up wherever I go, and sibling rivalry was never a problem.
........Sorry, I'm getting off topic, aren't I? .__. Bad habit. My point is, I understand what you mean. I question everything, for example: "I wonder what philosophical thoughts and theories will go on in Julie's head if and when she reads this?" I love to hear the thoughts of like-minded people. :)
+Julie Langås Shieeet it touched the scarce amounts of feelings I have. Exactly me.
"intps ask questions." That's it in a nutshell. And no, these are not getcha-gotcha questions. They are questions that we as intps want to know answers to, genuinely. "I don't know. I've never thought about or considered that." IS an acceptable answer to the question for me.
The comments on this video!! THE COMMENTS!!!
So intelligent, so sensible, so thought provoking and properly spelled! I LOVE YOU GUYS! I feel the need to read the entire thread like it's a homework assignment, and annotate the whole thing! I have found my friends.
INTJ here and when Mike mentioned that we ask "Gotcha!" questions, I laugh and had to pause the video. That's pretty much the only time I ever ask questions in my classes, lol. I realized it before but I'd never been able to put it into such a pithy statement so for that, and the laugh, thanks Mike.
Rayos Since you’re willing to be honest, I’m wondering if you’ll share why you do that. Is it mainly out of boredom?
One of the things that people don’t realize about Intp is that we are actually very determined and pragmatic, almost obsessive about things that we are interested in. The sloth is just if we don’t care, or are bored.
"Um, my own ... feelings on ...?"
Sums me up. We know we have feelings, we just don't dwell on them or find them relevant most of the time.
I agree that androids are usually portrayed as INTPs. Robots, on the other hand, are ISTJs.
How do you distinguish between droids and robots? It seems to me that robots don't have personalities.
First minute in, I often notice that in class I think up abstract questions, but I don't ask them because they aren't directly relevant to the material we're learning. Also I worry that if I do ask the questions I think up, my classmates will get annoyed with me because I'm wasting class time. You saying you like it when your INTP students asked questions made me realize that perhaps I should speak up more and be more confident in these situations.
i think INTPs and INFPs are extremely similiar, I even thought I was an INTP for a while , then I read about the Fi function and I was like "oh, that me" lol
Im an INTP and I would say hands down, type I find absolute most similarities with is INFP.
Ti Fi are very different, but being introverted and having Ne and Si as a working chunk really makes us both really similar.
I agree. Right now I am trying to deicide weather I am an INTP or INFP. It is proving to be difficult.
Wow! This was helpful! Luckily I kept a journal about 1-2 years ago. I really can emotionally relate!
I think the biggest reason why I thought I was an INTP was because of my way of interacting with people. Most of the time it is on the cold side. Which I believe makes sense. After all Fi is a introverted funtion. Why would I be really warm and inviting to people?
Anyway because of the coldness when ever I asked the people I was pretty close to what they thought they would assume I was a thinker. It also did not help that most of the people I am close to are not incredibly educated on typing people. Probably just should not have even asked their opinion.
Thanks for your help! Now I am feeling pretty confident in my type. I might second guess myself again but for now I think I have a pretty soild answer.
Emmy Joy Haha, I think the fact you admit that you "might second guess yourself again" sounds like a P.
Dismissing your friends' uneducated opinion and looking for hard evidence from your past really sounds like T. If you were F, your friends' opinions would probably hold more weight.
As for your N, I'll be honest, I can't really think of anything.
I myself am an INTP-so here is my requisite INTP disclaimer: I could be wrong about all of this. **mic drop**
I am a female INTP, I go to bed late at 1-2am and I wake up early at 5AM to go to work!!! I do not sleep too much. Some times I am extremely tired at night at 4am and I wake up look for the think I am analyzing and find information about it! I get along with ISTJs. We are thinkers and ISTPs are doers. They compliment us. We are no rebellious, we like to find the truth about every thing and some times politicians and people do not tell us the truth! You shouldn't lie to an INTP person. I feel like I have a big radar installed on top of my head and usually I am right about catching imperfections and superficialities..
horsetaurus intp Exactly! If pro and con are opposites, then doesn't that mean that congress is the opposite of progress? They don't even know how to be flat out honest! But instead they dodge all of our biggest questions because they know we wont like the answer.
So fascinating to watch. I can even see where as he's talking he stops paying attention to what coming out of his own mouth because he's simultaneously following six thought pathways in his head, some of which may not even be related to what he's discussing and have led to further tangents of their own.
As an INTP, I definitely work a lot, but sometimes I'm too in my head to get things done quickly or efficiently. This guy seems to be fairly heavy Ti.
Whenever I try to write an argumentative paper as an INTP, I always end up completely agreeing with both sides. I'll have the same number of pros and cons for each side, and since I don't really have a moral value system, I can't even give greater weight to the more morally compelling argument. The only way I can ever discount an argument is if it's not logically sound ("proof" from a "source" can work....but I'm generally skeptical) . Because of this, I usually pick a less popular position on everything and try to make people see that strong opinions are actually weak, and that it's VERY VERY hard to not be a hypocrite.
So true.
The Bean - INTP.
Whenever I read the comments in these types of videos, or on test results, I see a lot of people saying that they used to be something else, but then became an INTP. But looking back, I can't say I was ever anything else.
From a very young age, I couldn't stop thinking about things. And being so young, the majority of my thought process was devoted to fantasy and fiction. I was horrible at school because my mind was far too preoccupied to focus on it. I hear people say that INTPs are one of, if not the most intelligent type. But if this makes any sense at all, I feel like because I have been so purely INTP my whole life, I'm bad at school. True, I see genuine use for academic subjects. Mathematics apply to most everything and can make for an excellent component of detailed description. Using it to convey the appearance of a geometric or architectural figure. Or possibly to find the statistics of simple details in a plot line. And science can't be ignored as a wonderful bridge between what we can and can not explain on a universal scale. Math and science, of course, going hand in hand. But ultimately nothing captures my attention like creative writing, sci-fi fantasy, and concept art. Story ideas run through my head like a perpetual stampede of zebras. I can tell each story apart, but to the outside observer, they blend together in a sea of black and white stripes. Constantly moving and changing, interconnecting or splitting off into their own universe. All of which I feel can only be a truly meaningful story if it has a deeply rooted philosophical core.
With that in mind. I'm utterly horrible at math and science, and practically all subjects. I see their potential, and understand the primary concepts. But so far I have been unable to memorize the most important formulas. Even in the classes I like, I just can't stop procrastinating to get my homework done efficiently. My brain needs at least twenty minutes to turn on in the morning, making me late for classes, and it refuses to turn off at night, with a constant flow of inspiration. And even now I CAN'T STOP TYPING THIS STUPID COMMENT BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH I WANT TO ADD TO IT!!! I want people to want to read this, and give me an equally thought out response, but hardly anyone wants to read a novel in one youtube comment, and there are only so many INTPs that will see this..... Help.. O___o
VidralliaArchives Haha this is basically my life in a nutshell. I have an instinctive understanding for humanities and social science related subjects, but math and science elude me. I understand politics economics or philosophy much better than most people my age, but calculus? OMG the Hell is that?? Of these, my favourite is definitely Literature, and even I love fiction and stories, though my interests run mostly to mysteries and adventures rather than fantasy. I can totally relate to the procrastination problem as well, even when it comes to subjects I like. That's one of the reasons I was never good at school. I can't put myself to sleep at night or make myself wake up on time in the morning.
All that being said, things really do get better as we grow older and studies become more specialised. I picked Literature as my Major/Honours subject in college, with economics and sociology on the side, and life is definitely much simpler now. Not that I don't still procrastinate, but at least, having some idea about these things, I can get by without having to study the year round, which I never did anyway, no matter how many times people told me to. When I look back, it sometimes seems amazing to me that I managed to clear school without being held back at least once. I literally never opened a textbook except for the day before the final exams.
+VidralliaArchives +Nupur Chowdhury I really identify with all of this, I feel like I've changed a lot over the years but looking back I've always thought about things and interacted with people the same sort of way. I don't have the inspiration to write a long comment such as yours, I can channel some satisfaction knowing that we have a strong understanding here, (and now as I type I'm wondering if this will end up being long)
I find I can't learn what I'm not interested in, but even within something I do like, I often only want the information that answers the specific questions that I need to answer in order to complete whatever contemplative quest I'm currently on, so the subject that interests me always has a strong meaning for me, though the questions I have extend beyond conscious thought, so my interest in something often ramps up quickly as I lock onto to answers and start looking for more of them, even learning about typology the last few weeks, I've come across really good detailed explanations of some of the theories and such, but then it'll be like "whoa, too much information" and I'll try to find something interesting.
I've recently figured out a sort of three layer theory of thought, the subconscious level has deep and broad understanding of many things, and is constantly making connections, it's presence can be perceived by the conscious level, and actual conscious thoughts are solidified by virtual conversations between me and myself, me an and imaginary entity, (myself disguised?) or me and someone I wish I was having this conversation with (this is often simultaneously a fantasy of having such a personal and interesting conversation with that particular person) also writing seems to draw out thought from the sub-conscious realm/level, I suppose this is well known in various forms. Then the level of conversation with an actual other person, at which point I become aware of the distinction between conscious thought and understanding, and the frustration that such a border exists.
Well hopefully you get to see this reply to a comment you made in the spring, I wrote this twice because I accidentally closed the tab! (oh the agony) kept it mostly the same, it was a little more fragmented before, so maybe it's better this way, a sort of forceful second draft. I feel like this was pretty well thought out, especially given how fragmented everything feels in my conscious realm of thought. I'm keenly aware of possible grammatical errors and tangents, but I'm mostly satisfied with this, now I'm tripping over myself... I'm going to stop before I fall down a really deep rabbit hole :P ;)
Nupur Chowdhury For some reason I only saw this reply until now. And reading it makes me wish I had at least one INTP as a close friend. One of my sisters is an INTJ, another an ISTP, and one of my friends is an INTJ. We all get along great, but none of them can quite relate on the procrastinating as easily as an actual INTP could. Like the fact that I'm practically nocturnal, and am always forced to shower after everyone else because I take forever. (It's not my fault, though! I just get distracted thinking and forget to wash myself. ;_;)
zmac My gosh, all of it, I inhaled your comment like a vacuum cleaner. I have friends in the world. (happy cry)
I feel the same way! I got really interested in meteorology a while back, and started looking stuff up. At first it was fascinating, but eventually the topic strayed into the mathematical things, and how they calculate it exactly, and it quickly became very boring. I was far more intrigued with how sand storms in Africa were the cause of rain in Europe.
And the three layer theory of thought sounds really interesting (goes to look it up), that's exactly the kind of thing I'd get sucked into. Incidentally, I tried looking up documentaries about the human mind once, none of them were put together nearly as well as the other documentaries I've seen. One had a really annoying host, and all of them were just going over the natural instincts, how the brain reacts to fear and pain and all that, when all I wanted to know about was the creative mind. I've found the best way to learn about it, is to talk to other introverted analyst types.
I've also deleted my comment before, so I can empathize with you there. I got so pissed off once when I accidentally clicked on a link in the midst of typing a long comment. Only those who put a lot of work and thought into their comments would understand. Whereas most people throw crappy, misspelled comments to the wind and don't give a care if it makes them sound like a blockhead. That is exactly why jacksfilms created "Your Grammar Sucks" videos. (They're pretty funny.)
VidralliaArchives Completely nocturnal and takes forever in the shower because I'm too busy musing about the randomest of shit? -> My life in a nutshell! :p I can hardly ever go to sleep before 3-4 in the morning, which make morning classes a nightmare. And let's just say my showers are notorious in my family!
some of us INTPS can get pretty verbal in our disagreement; it's just that the desire to continue debate fizzles out pretty quickly (that's for the INTJs)
INTP here. Yep, late sleeper, late waker (it's 3am right now). Takes me half an hour just to get out of bed and another half to actually start doing something productive.
I'm an INTP and I relate to this guy alot. It's so interesting, please do more interviews.
Thank you for the video. I recently discovered my INTP'ness, that explains so much about my behavior in life until now ('m 26). I'm glad to see other people describing themselves the same way I would.
It's comforting to feel like you're not alone.
This Brad guy talks almost EXACTLY like me. I think speech patterns are one way to pick out an INTP on the spot. Like myself, I feel like Brad is constantly trying to find the right word to explain his thoughts clearly, for example.
I really like this comment. Especially the idea of being true to self. I think a lot of INTPs get mislead by the school system and general population to think that their goals aren't valuable. I'm seeing more evidence that with INTPs success comes in proportion to how much we create and follow our own best paths.
I would agree this tool is helpful to understand and accept people like you said. But on the other hand, what if someone relies on this too much and meets another person, immediately assessing the newly met person. Isn't it dangerous to judge someone quickly, rather than give them an opportunity to prove themselves. However, I do agree with you that in this situation, we can understand them and adapt to the particular event.
This "rebelling against college" has been my issue for a while now, as an INTP. My main reasons are that I like independence and creating things, like my education, rather than paying for them. Having to pay for Col/Uni, even though I can use loans, put's me in a situation where I am dependent on money to be given credit for what I know, best resources to improve the world , and just to be around people who I can connect with on an intellectual level, (most are either in school/career/at home)
Low self esteem is usually caused by other people who think you should be like them, don't listen to them and find your own talents. INTP's don't 'suck', the world sucks for us. It's designed for the majority (not us) so you need to create your own space and make that part of the world yours to work the way you want it to. Specialise into something that uses your talents and make sure you implement those plans! :)
I identify with so many of the things Brad said. I force myself to read all the time. I didn't even know it was an INTP thing.
I read until I get the main idea or concept or the gist of it then move on to something else
@mystdocu why not do online university? More freedom of what to study, sleep when and in whatever durations you wish, less force to conform, more quickly get to study exactly what you want to and bend assignments around your interests.
NFGeeks with Dr. Mike! You have this notion that INTJs are trying to prove their intelligence rather than contemplate. I've noticed it to be true with a lot that they like to prove to you how smart they are. But, to be fair to them, they really do try to contemplate too. They are pretty curious individuals.
INTPs are pretty rebellious. They really value originality. If you give us a problem we don't really care about how you want us to do it. We will use our originality, novelty and innovation to find completely new creative and efficient ways of doing things. This is why it's important for INTPs to find an environment (usually technical work like STEM) that supports this quality in them.
Male version of me! As a female I have developed more sensitivity, but this was learned and makes sense logically in order to get to where I need to go.Having children draws on sensitivity as well...it softens and balances.
I agree with the reading thing - I do read often, but when I read I scan through some pages and skip them, especially if the author explains how a room is decorated or how a character looks like. When I read articles on the internet, I read the comments with more interest than the article itself - sometimes I do not even read the article, I just read the comments of other people who read it, because I find it interesting. College- ugh - luckily only 1 year to go.
We're too busy making a list of all the things we'll never get around to doing.
I agree on the reading as well. I often find it hard to finish a book, I get distracted or lose interest by the time I get halfway through.
On the note of INTPs and sleeping in... Honestly, I like to wake up quite early. I feel like I've wasted my day if I'm up past 8am. I have lately felt I may be changing, and I'm not sure if I'm mistyped, or simply didn't know myself, or if I'm simply an irregular INTP. Many have told me I'm very extroverted for an INT, and furthermore I feel I'm more of an Ne user than a Ti lead. I have also been told that I'm quite anal with regard to my work habits and that, uncharacteristically of an INTP.
I can relate to this guy
20 minutes to wake up? Lucky. Takes me like 2 hours.
Right now I feel like the social isolation is one of the worst aspects of not being in school when you are the type who is at there best socially when in school. Although I haven't tried it much, I feel online communities can only do so much. An ENTP could easily, and might even enjoy approaching strangers with their ideas. For an INTP, it is possible, but it's inconvenient. The structure of a classroom with presentations, labs, discussions, intellectual density and effort, seems unmatched.
"is that the word im looking for?"
"sure"
I am 50%P and 50%J. 90%T, and 85%N. Some times I think we have sixth sense. What about the other INTPs. Can you predict thing ahead of time? We are Intuitive. It happens to me so many times, I know what is going to happen, not always but a lot of times! I do surprise people around me!
horsetaurus intp I definitely get what you're saying.
like blurting out what you are sure someone is going to say and they cannot fathom as to how you figured it out? Yeah, I don't understand why others can't do the same, I usually come to the joking conclusion of: "Stupidity!" I know I shouldn't but I'm always judging people on their intelligence.
Constantly correcting people is a massive habit of mine, people think I want to pick a fight with everyone but all I want to do is offer an informed opinion.
I think we simply reconise patterns. Pretty much anything is a pattern, and once you see the pattern, you know what's gonna happen next. That is what is great about being an INTP I think. Downsides are for example watching movies. You can predict pretty a whole lot more than others can, and as an INTP I like to be SURPRISED by something new and cool.....but mostly it just goes as I thought it would, even alot of the 'mind fuck' movies, who are supposed to surprise you. Anyway..to reconise patterns is key I think to pretty much anything. Although I'm sure I'm quite T dominant, I am still able to tell if people are honest, since they portrey different behaviour if they suddenly do something different (a lie) ....their tone changes etc etc....I do not recall ever fallen for a scam or not anyone I know has betrayed me. I think we INTP's have a pretty good "radar" indeed, as someone else mentioned it
I used to work in retail and tripped newer coworkers out with that. Until one day it just kinda stopped, now sometimes I feel like someone cut off my third hand.
As an INTP, I must say; we love to procrastinate and hate deadlines.
9:42 - most real moment of the interview. Said by xNTP of course.
I'm an INTP, and my best friend is an ENFP. We always joke about how he needs me to come up with ideas, and I need him to bring them into fruition.
Brad looks like Mike's son :)) the beard, THE GLASSES. haha nice video!
Focusing on your "shadow functions" is a great path towards failure. That would be like me, an INTJ, going into the performing arts. The simple fact is INTJ's suck at art unless we pick up an instrument early on. Likewise with INTP's, they might be able to fit into military structure, but they'd be really stressing their Si and Fe and not really using their Ti and Ne.
LOL--"We're too busy...you know..."
Glad I'm not the only INTP who neglects to finish sentences.
I love seeing another intp and seeing how much of myself I see in this guy.
The paragraph long explanations expose the INTP's. I could go on but i'm also a smartass so i'll keep it short.
While INTPs are also logical, from an INTJ's perspective, they can ask irrelevant questions. Although pondering these questions may seem aesthetically pleasing, the extent to which any "philosophy" is true is limited to the extent the foundational principles are self evident. This is why INTJs gravitate towards natural sciences. But it is all still incredibly philosophical. (ex Quantum mechanics). I suggest "Human Action" by Ludwig von mises for a philosophical tour de force through economics.
> ask true questions of inquiry as apposed to questions that are bait.
I can relate to that, normally when I ask questions it is to get a better deeper understanding of a subject usually they are very broad philosophical questions. Occasionally though people may think I have an ulterior motive like I am looking to question their views or intelligence.
I'm INTP and I wake up early because I like to; there's something about sleeping through the day that actually bothers me.
I know exactly what are you talking about...
I am INFJ and long time I had just the same feelings...
But then I saw Dave here in some videos from NF Geeks and it was like looking in a mirror. I saw that we are pretty much the same - the style of speaking behaving... - and I was really, really glad, that there are other INFJs people too...
But the best moment was when Dave said: "You know I write poetry..." and Mike: "Of course you write poetry, you are an INFJ!" By the way, I write poetry :D
I am an INTP and this video is amazing in that every thing that is talked about is me. Thank you for posting..
You're a good interviewer. Really, that's what I was thinking all along even though I came here for the "INTP" because I am that myself.
I like your voice, the way you speak, your tone, your questions etc.
Keep it up I guess, heh.
Actually, you can. Psychology relies very heavily on generalisability. Whilst it can't show nuances of an individual's personality, it gives a good general idea of the behaviour and cognition of each type. If we were unable to generalise people, the likes of the bystander effect, Stockholm syndrome and stereotyping would not exist.
Why are all the intp's so freaking attractive....
I'm an early riser. I wake up at 4:20 ish before any of my family does.
Jade Cook blaze it
+Jade Cook For INTPs that uses spiritual will always rose up early for the inner balance therapy :)
same these generalisation although cute become a tad tiresome.
Jealous.
0:53 *commence awkard intp laugh*
Yes. There ARE others. Always. You are not alone. You are never alone. Rejoice. I personally know three INTP's.
Questions that, in my experience, either get us real answers or expose holes in theories for everyone else. I've been told that, despite my inability to counsel people like an NF, my thought process sort of breaks the intellectual ice for everyone else in the conversation, or disrupt flawed logic without attacking it. I'd like to directly help sometimes, sure, but having that special niche (at least with my friends) makes me feel purposeful. It's a very INTP satisfaction.
As a INTP you basically summed up perfectly, but there is TON of perks to being INTP as well. My dad is a INTJ and I think I would rather have my personality type.
Being an INTP in the military would be very trying. There are lots of positives about being an INTP though. I'm still a relatively young person but as I grow older I'm starting to become more comfortable with my personality. It might be interesting for you to know that of all the personality types, INTPs are the most prolific inventors. Try to settle on a technical career with interesting problems and you won't have any trouble being productive.
I'm an intp, almost sure I'm infp, yet I don't always need sources, I tend to base myself in pure logic, and expect everyone else to understand and agree with me because it simple logic (a bad habit of mine).
the question about quiet rebellion was also quite astute. we hate the jumping through hoops, dotting eyes and stating the obvious that may academic exercises demand.
i now see why alot of infp's love intp's. some of my coolest friends were intp but i got annoyed because i found them a little slow in working through an verbalising things, though they were all brilliant minds
You have to take a taoist approach. The more you become aware of your faults and limitations the more options you have and the more growth can be achieved. Your personality limitations are consistent over time, so really getting in touch with them is the key because they are not going anywhere. There is nothing comfortable at truly acknowledging your limitations. But you cannot leave the box until you acknowledge there is actually a box and the box is real. That is how you transcend.
I think part of the reading thing is that INTP's use Ne, whereas, for example, INTJ's use Ni, which makes INTJ's way more receptive in general to big loads of idea-information regarding a particular topic; Ne on the other hand causes us to want to express "our own version" of a given idea that we come into contact with, since we usually get this idea that our version is more precise (part of it is that we understand it better when we can dig into all the definitions of words and such).
I feel much better about my minimum length papers now.... heh!
INTP and ISTP seem so similar in demeanor.
GyroLamb Dominant Ti.
I'm a pretty darn scatter brained INTP. Maybe the guy in the video is an ISTP. He is way to cool headed. Who knows : )
One of my closest friends is an INTP! They are great :). For some reason most of my friends are NTs (lots of INTJs and one INTP). I am married to an INTJ but sometimes I wish he had a p function instead ot the j (because he has a hard time relaxing).
I'm an INTP and I ask questions of people that I know the answer to, however I do it to test the other person. I like to know if the other person is going to BS me or how they react to situations where I know they don't know the answer.
Astrology, is based upon Barnum-Statements first coined by J.c Barnum, its a statement that applies to most people; the same is true for MBTI, but in regards to a specific temperament (permanently affects their behavior).
A currently ongoing study by Jerome Kagan, an american psychologist, found that there were noticeable changes in low-reactive and high-reactive temperament at 4 months old, which was an excellent predictor of introversion/extroversion.
variation is limited, by the framework.
I'm an into that reads a lot" I can concentrait when I'm interested otherwise, good luck. But yes I do wake up late a lot but I don't need a minute or two to adjust or what you said, I literally just burst awake with a burning question or a when I have a dream contemplating that or immediately resuming the book Im almost to the end of
i would like to hear more about the procrastination that comes along with intp orientation. some of this procrastination is borne of the rebellion you speak of, some of it influenced by our loathing of the mundaneness of execution, a bit by our distractibility but i think there is also an element of fear that comes from the notion of completion. any thoughts on this last notion...
We ALL should stay in our lane!!! Great way to put it. I am a big believer in this and that is a common theme here at NFGeeks. NF's are particularly bad at this sometimes, driving the wrong way in the NT lane doomed to have a terrible accident.
definitely takes quite a while to wake up, usually something like 30-60 mins, sometimes even 1.5 hours. agree with about everything else brad said. but its not nice to pick on NFs(unless they make the mistake of challenging you ofc :D), INTJs are much more fun for this purpose, except that they tend to get all emo and not realize it, which can be quite annoying.
Great video and keep up the good work.
-INTP
No. This is exactly why I do not like typing through the functions. It always ends up a miss. If read Nietzsche, his style is far to emotion laden and poetic for any NT. He is most likely an INFJ for that reason.
And that includes sleeping till noon everyday?
Okay...let me get back to you. I'll check my library.
But we're so much less judgmental and more open-minded than INTJ. There's a lot to appreciate.
Old video but amazin, is incredible, this guy think exactly like me, is a copy or my brother
YEA!!! you're back! Finally
Don't like the beard though, but really like your stuff mike.
I could relate to Brad, and this video show how distinct NTs and NFs are. NF are trying to make a great discussion while engaging with the video, while the NTs are trying to discern the truth, literally stuck in their head with no intention of making the video entertaining
but i don't know, i could be wrong
This is why I do like typing via the functions: I notive in Nietzsche his style is perhaps to self contradictory or poetic to be a T dominant. However he could still be an NT; I think his style is a testament to him prefering N over T.
I'm an INTP and I'm exactly the same, including the medical research thing...
I can perfectly relate to Brad in this video. I am a stereotypical INTP myself...It's amazing to see how behaviors are similar across cultures.....Continuing with your thoughts on arrogance...I would love to learn if knowledge and arrogance are correlated..I think ...in most cases...yes....
I'm an INTP and I absolutely love college, I get to talk about the things I care about and everyone has to listen :) Challenging the professors and often identify with them is pretty fun too. I hated the gen eds though, I couldn't stand the memorization aspects of college.. mostly the things I never cared about.
CONT Thats how we are naturally built, just do & follow whatever you truly want to, bcoz you WILL get to some amazing places
I'm an INTP early riser. It's great.
As for the philosophy thing goes, the INTJ vs. INTP temperament reminds me of mathematical logicians and the emergence of "analytic philosophy." The problem with analytic philosophy is that it must be grounded in self-evident principles for the formal arguments to have any meaning. Bertrand Russel had the right intuition about philosophy and that it sort of meandered endlessly.
Further, on the topic of sleep, my brothers and I have discussed this and theorized that, deep thought, just takes a lot out of you. How many people are taking their thoughts to the depth that an INTP does every waking moment? Not many, if any at all. Constant mental exercise can be much more wearying than it's physical counterpart. The only person I've met who has a similar sleeping structure, and is of a different type, is my INFJ boyfriend.
Personally I find INTPs to be most interesting! And to add to the positive attributes I find they have a great sense of humor and they're not easy to piss off either.
haha I think it's great that even Mike gets pulled into Brad's tangents (the R2D2 conversation)
I've confused myself so much over the last 24 hours over my seeming split INTP/INTJ tendencies. For years, I was certain about being an INTJ but there are some very similar behaviors in INTPs with very subtle differences. Both are not greatly emotional, always seem wrapped up in thought, have a big picture view, etc.
There may be something about the functions, but I can't grasp how it is manifesting in me.
And I just looked down at the comments and noticed this. Seems to be a common confusion.
I prefer this post, the other is a giant appeal to academic authority. Anyway, your distinction between NF and NT thought processes is identical to the Jungian distinction between Sensing and Intuition. Except for the logical part, as that's not a function of Perception. Of course a thinker will be more attuned to logic. However, it is Intuition that is metaphorical, abstract and non-linear. Furthermore, only neurotic characters lose access to their feeling or thinking functions.
Your questioning is very INTP, ironically, even specifically being about MBTI.
Yeah dude, I also brought up this opinion towards my friend who was really into the personality types. I supposed the only thing that makes this topic more "reliable" than astrology is that it's a majority of ppl have accepted it. But people did honestly believe in astrology too.. So i think it's nice and convenient to have this personality type, but there's room for growth and in science "there is always an exception to the rule."
"there are things in life that can't be explained" is like nails on a chalk board to me! The existential dread! So many philosophical rabbit holes that I've dove down and couldn't find the bottom. It's exhausting and frustrating that I can't seem to find an idea or system that I can believe in, because I'll just take it apart. Dogmatic people, both atheists and theists, seem to have an easier time. Most atheists I've known have some kind of moral framework that they find satisfying, or at least it appears so.
See this makes me think that even though I'm pretty sue I'm an INTP, I must be really damn close to being an INFP, because fuck sources. I mean I like to have a backing for my thoughts, but I hate doing any kind of citation. And a lot of times my impressions are just as valuable to me as source material in an argument. It's hard to tell where I lie, but I don't think I'm as full blown an INTP as the type is normally described.
I do something similar, not because I'm closer to INFP, (I'm most definitely INTP) but because I'm just lazy. If somebody says something that sounds reasonable but doesn't have a source I'll usually take them at their word, however I will go home and do my own research on the subject if it interests me, if it doesn't, then I just dont care. If something sounds like it could be untrue our faulty logic I'll ask where they heard it but I don't require a full blown MLA citation.
ArcaneInsignia13 Ne makes us see that the source by itself is not nearly as useful as seeing it in context next to all of the other ideas we have.
+ArcaneInsignia13 Our blood type determine 20% of recessive character..For example if you O blood type, you probably have 20% Feeling and 80% Thinking.
That's wrong. Ne is an objective function. It compares ideas and connects them.
Trust me. I'm INTP and don't give a crap about sources or work cited pages. I trust I get a passing grade by how in depth I go and show a grasped concept. I mean, I still use sources, but always have the crappiest work cited pages, I just care about the paper and if the flow of thought was easily understood.
I was actually wondering if he is an ISTP, but I don't have any grounds to back that up. I guess just because of how cool he was. In my mind I imagine INTP to have a more agitated composure. At least I do.
I've been doubting for a long time that I'm an INTP but after researching for a while nothing else seems to be fitting.