You are just part of a culture that calls this cheating. In other parts of the world this is simply a different way to enjoy the game. Try to be more open minded.
You are filth. Nobody likes cheaters. If it's simply a different way to enjoy the game within another part of the world, then keep it within that part of the world. The rest of the world does not want cheaters, not ever.
Cheaters populate games really quickly. It's never surprising to have cheaters in the first few days of a new shooter, but how long they last is what could be a bad sign.
Looks like the community team is taking this kind of things seriously (along with the dev team). I mean, I already reported a few people for minor things (like inappropriate nicknames) and got a response pretty soon informing that they have already changed names as a "punishment". I expected much less coming from NetEase and got really surprised by how quick it was (took just a few hours). And on some cases of cheating it seems like some cheaters have already been banned. It looks like they're taking action just based on reports by now, but will probably have some form of automation down the line. Sounds good enough to me since it's a brand new game.
There was a cheater in casual day one... I snuck up behind enemy lines as Spider-Man, and the Punisher in the turret just snaped 180 degrees around himself and instantly killed me...
@@justdrawdotcom4647 Looks like a match replay. Any match you play, you can watch a replay and choose to follow any of the players that were in the match
Lol I had the same experience with my friend night one. Dude was walling with iron man, I'd be behind him invisible as psylocke and he'd prefire before I could turn the corner
@@justdrawdotcom4647 i saw his kill cam. He literally snapped 180 degrees backwards to kill me, even though there was no way for him to even know i was there, since i was coming at him from the direction of their spawn, and he was behind the rest of his team. In other kill cams of him i saw his reticle snap to people just like in this video. No other player looked like that in their kill cams...
The report system so far is great. I have reported people for chat abuse and such and you get a notification saying who you reported and what action was taken it was sooo satisfying to see someone who was using slurs in game get chat banned and it notified me of it.
Reporting people for literal "typed words" is beyond insane... Willing to bet everything in my bank account you're the kind to report someone for something as simple as a curse word...😐
The game has 20 million people playing it you think a couple of them aren't cheating? Get real. All anti cheat are Kernel level you don't even know what that means past what you heard in youtube videos and the Reddit echo chamber of people who really need to take a shower. EVERY SINGLE anti cheat is kernel level.
@@user-if9pp4vg7g World of Warcraft's anticheat (Warden) is fully usermode, Roblox's anticheat (Byfron) is fully usermode, funnily enough, these outperform most kernel anticheats because kernel anticheats just do the same thing than usermode anticheats but it is for lazy people because it's easier to detect things with kernel access, if you're good enough, usermode is way more than enough, what can I say, people like to overkill, but it's mostly a SKILL ISSUE
@@user-if9pp4vg7gThis is simply untrue. In fact, a majority of "smaller" developers just use input detection and/or hook detection, though now with OBS and Discord both being so common to hook those are extremely insecure methods. Point to say, no. It's not "all kernel level" and I'd venture to guess you barely even know what that means yourself. Edited because I can't spell when I type too fast. Also going to mention in advance you won't get a reply but hopefully a different developer will correct if you say something ridiculous a second time.
it's because her projectiles are ridiculously strong. She deals 70 damage, starts to falls off after 18m, up to 30m at 70% damage at 2 rounds per second in comparison the other sharpshooters in the game: Black Widow's rifle does 120 damage - no fall off, IF she fires from ADS (which has a mini-charge time) at .83 round per second. (fall of is 10m up to 50% damage on 20m - so yeah she's basically forced to snipe) Clint on the other hand does 80 damage on max charge (.9 seconds) doesn't fall off. Much better if not for the fact that not charge at all makes him fire a TWO damage arrow. eugh. This makes her the best no-scope semi-auto sniper as headshots or critical hit as they are called deal x2.1 damage. Plus really if you're gonna wall hack and auto-aim I'm pretty sure it's more obvious if you're ADS long distance or charging per attack.
@@CulturedDegenerate why they thought hela being hitscan was a good idea is beyond me. She should be projectiles with how ridiculous her damage is with no scope.
@CulturedDegenerate That's not accurate. Programming-wise, projectiles in this game are fast enough that their trajectory can be predicted using basic linear interpolation or velocity-based calculations, without needing complex simulations. It's straightforward and computationally light.
There may be a monetary incentive here. Its a classic of competitive games where a person boosts an account and then sells it for profit. The issue is pretty rampant in league of legends. Cheating just allows someone to climb higher and faster. And if there is not a monetary incentive and its all just ego. Plenty of people only interact with media for escapist purposes, not to have 'fun' or get good at a game. For the cheater, escapism takes the form of a power fantasy where they just roll over the competition.
"they buy a high ranked account because they think they deserve it then get a rude awakening" I wish.... half the time they just go "I was GM but my teammates were awful so now I'm back down to gold" then buy another account
6:50 It's a projectile Ult, remember if he's using an AIM bot the program is not compensating for travel time. This is typically why players who use hacks play Hit-Scan centric shooters.
Will mention that cheats do have the ability to account for projectiles. That kind of calculation is incredibly easy to code but is also even more obvious played back. Popularly you can look up old videos of Apex Legends cheaters.
Bro I’ve alr encountered over 6 cheaters, and then even weren’t trying to hide, all of them was just rage cheating, it crazy that this game just came out Iike few days
@@anthonysmith1228 Only start to cheat, when your team is about to lose, or because you have been killed (Outskilled) by the enemy team too many times (Sometimes it can be just one Death). So you are mad and turn on your hack to "Show it to them" or to try and get the win. Different than just cheating from the start of the match, as most often it's a hurt ego, or the person thinking they are better than everyone, but then being proved wrong.
@@darkblossum4379 rage cheating is also when they are blatantly obvious. since someone hiding cheats would get mad they are losing and then turn them up full blast. the term isn't as ingrained with its origin anymore as someone can be rage cheating from the first second of a game with it still being considered rage cheating
the magic bullet thing was also in titanfall 2 but we called it soft aimbot. gotta be one of the worst ones to go against cause in killcams their aim looks completely normal (and in a game that fast especially it can be hard to tell sometimes if their aim was actually far enough off to warrant a miss) the big thing that gave it away in titanfall was that the bullet trails would curve if they used certain weapons and usually theyd go perfectly center mass cause pure headshots in titanfall was just obvious cheating. Idk if there will be a giveaway like that in rivals but hopefully what theyve said about the anticheat in marvel rivals is true so these players are out of the playerpool pretty quickly.
the thing was it was customizable too so you could chose exactly how many degrees you could be off by for it to lock on the best cheaters would have it on like 0.2 degrees of error and it was super hard to tell
Oh interesting. I didn't know that was a thing. I thought this kind of looked like an auto-clicker that detects when firing will result in a hit and does it automatically. It also looks like totally normal gameplay for the most part, until someone goes afk with their stream on and you can see they are still firing whenever someone moves past their crosshair.
In death cam it's so easy to see, had a punisher on his turret. You can't tell me that he saw me out of his field of view shooting someone else not even killing them but then turn to me (me haven't even damage him and I was low) and shoot me.
I have tried cheating in games, usually in customs and it's actually just so fucking boring but I've met people deluded enough to believe that the cheats are just "a little helpful" and their actual skill level is good enough or maybe just a few ranks lower. I won't even pretend to be high ranked bro dude I'm like peak bronze in every competitive game I play lmao but yeah, playing games with hacks is actually just so mind-numbing. I know a few people who do it bc they're like "ah these people practiced hard to get here and all I have to do is download these files" which I don't get at all but I know is a real mindset people have.
@@CR4CKSM0K3R I agree, it's boring, it sucks the life out of these things. This can be applied to art and AI art as well, people desire the skill but do not want to do the work, not recognizing that the work adds value to the end result. Cheaters generally enjoy the "number go up" aspect of getting a lot of kills, but do not enjoy the grind of actually ranking up. I personally had to relearn to enjoy things just for the sake of enjoying them instead of only enjoying a game if I do well (which is good for me bc as I said, I'm ass and would never have fun if I was still focused on winning)
Cheating in a game with a kill cam and in-built replay system... You'd either have to be a complete idiot, or a total psychopath who just enjoys being the most boring person in existence to try that.
Kill cams and replay systems don't mean anything if the company won't actually do anything to restrict them from playing, which is most cases in gaming.
I think an angle a lot of ppl do not think of is most cheaters lack an ungodly amount of empathy like a narcissist or sociopath for example the far end of those brain types/spectrum show almost no signs of empathy or none at all when their brains are scanned for empathetic reactions.. to them they know its a cheap win but what they want if not money is admiration. its fine if u or ppl in this comment thread think he's/she is a low life. bc all that person needs is a few ppl to think hes rly great... and that to a narcissist is worth more then almost anything. how their perceived matters much more then how they rly are. integrity and a care for others is just not something they have access to or care will ever care about and some are so unaware they think other ppl think like that(when their the minority atm) and are unaware their lack of empathy means they will never experience all the human emotions normally. like what is "love" if ur brain shows no sign of empathy under a microscope.. its just an imitation and usually a poor one but some sociopaths do form bonds however manipulation is still something they do at the root of all or most of their actions. others perceptions being twisted by their manipulation would effect them in no way as long as they get what they want. like if their GF or whatever thinks there great at games they dont care there bending reality around someone they say they love they just want to be seen that way. its a very empty and parasitic way of living but to them is the most fulfilling thing Ever also for anyone curious lol narcissist and sociopaths are rarely hereditary "illnesses". their made and the process is basically they grew up not using empathy or ever feeling it in their emotions. and during the brains development its possible to gimp a brain that could had formed empathy and turn them into a narcissist or sociopath and there is no reversing that process after a point/age. but also empathy is a spectrum. some ppl have so many empathetic neurons or whatever they will cry seeing someone cry over something or most things. like they just feel sad seeing this person genuinely sad. thats kind of the extreme spectrum for empathy. and ppl can be empathetic enough they wont cry bc they see someone crying. so like the frontal lobe which controls empathy can be altered through their own thoughts and need to feel superior. the only happy brain chemicals they feel is when their superior or perceived to be. its like sociopaths and narcissist inflict brain damage onto themselves by having an ego so weak they rly think outward forms of validation is all they need. like I would theorize a Ton of cheaters and horrible ppl know its horrible and know there ruining/taking others time and do not care bc they simply just lack a frontal lobe that developed empathy and the ego fuel is literally all they do anything for. but like there are lots of reasons ppl cheat tho for sure and just for money or sadistic wants to ruin ppls time are imo the most common. a 100 dollars to sell an account + the praise from random internet ppl they queue with is a good enough hobby for them.
I encountered a cheating widow day 1 of the game, I saw the kill cam and their screen just snapped like 60° onto my head. We still won and the widow didn't make any noticeable plays but still. Cheater on day 1
We had em in beta. In 100ish hours on beta, I encountered _one_ I can confirm with 100%. Cheats in this game work funny because of the destructible terrain. Then there's the classic lagswitching on consoles.
I've been shot through structure before it was broken, either the guy was betting someone was going past that wall or they had cheats that saw my head, either way the punisher and his turret melted the way and got a few hits on me before I dashed away
Why am I not surprise...since I had found a few hawkeye cheaters in the beginning as well. It's just how it is in online gaming nowadays...just need to see how MR will deal with cheaters.
I got a hela cheater today too, i didn't even realize until the end of the game where she had 40 kills (everyone else in the lobby had 10-15) her own teammate called her out in chat once we lost and it finally clicked 😅
I had a game as Iron man where I was fighting a Psylocke, and I made a very deliberate effort to hide behind tree foliage, and yet, she managed to land three perfect body shots on me. I feel validated that they were probably just cheating.
I feel like I've seen a few people straight up using subtle wall hacks too. Had a game as psylocke earlier where I'd be hiding around corners and a Luna would jump around the corner pre aiming her freeze at me and said "ur predictable" which is completely horse shit lmao
One thing I will give credit to netease is that they don't tolerate cheating or abusive chat and ban ppl all the time. They are always on top of cheaters and jerks.
i was wolverine and had a bucky head tap me, i did the wolverine dash, (which is like instant btw) and i was even out of his view in the kill cam, he instantly flicked me at the end of the dash.
I encountered the same thing, the kill cam showed that they locked on to me while I was behind a wall and followed me till I walked out was also a hela player
Ranked is just filled with whiney cowards. If you can’t play your main you throw the game like a child, or the cheaters in general cause they can’t handle a loss.
I honestly don't get how you can even have only one main in a game like this... I feel you can easily find 6 characters you like to play and can be good with, so that there's always at least one of them that didn't get picked by anyone else...
@ yeah. If anything it’s smart to always have at the least 3-4 back up picks. Especially if it’s really popular like Jeff or Spider-Man. Me I have 2 choices of each class at the least I might be a bad tank but if we need one and no one wants to soak up damage I’ll go tank or just be the 3rd strategist if cloak and dagger are open.
@@unseeninja83 Same. Picking 2 from each role makes sure that not only will you always have a character to play, but also if five of them are already chosen, your final pick will balance the team.
@@AndreyKrichevsky I understand it, some people don't want/feel like/have the time to put in the effort to learn another character. However, I wouldn't throw if I was someone who one-tricked unless there was a hacker. I'd find the next closest thing that's available, and tell my team that I might not carry my weight. And I'm someone who isn't even touching ranked until I get more used to some of the characters that I want to play. The game keeps going "Yo bro, you're too good, go play ranked!" and I'm just there thinking "I'm level 11 with less than 3 hours on the game, I'm not ready for ranked yet" - I don't know what my second support will be behind Jeff (leaning Mantis), and I haven't touched half of the DPS so I just know that I like Squirrel Girl and Iron Man there. At least with Tank I know I like Doctor Strange, Thor, and Hulk.
was in quick play, and the enemy namor literally phased through all mine and my teams attacks, and never took damage, never had a single cool down, and basically had 10 octo turrets in one spot, instead of the usual 2 at a time.
Replay was bugged at the time this was uploaded. But It is kind of crazy how some of it just looks like cracked aim, but then there are the moments where it just locks onto someone lmao. Crazy shit
she may be cheating, but the 2:15 doesn't do justice because the game records at a lower data, meaning the movement is not smooth, and the aim is snappy aimbot-like. depending on the server performance, what you see is miliseconds in the past, so in this video, she may shoot at nothing, but it connects, but in her POV, she shot at the enemies directly. like Team Fortress 2 spectator cam. Although it is possible that she used silent-aimbot = if your game ran at 66 ticks per second, you and others couldn't see the aimbot in action because the aimbot took action within he hidden 6 ticks. thus, you see, she aims somewhere else, but the hit register at someone she wasn't even aiming for. what you will see is the same as Star Lord's ultimate. ESP = see-through walls. self explanatory. Backtrack = it shows the enemies' ghost, you shoot that ghost, and it'll damage the owner of said ghost. what you will see is the same as one of Hawkeye's abilities. Trigger-bot = automatically shoots whenever an enemy is within your lines of fire. can be set to shoot at head or body only. It seems like she didn't use fake lag . It appears laggy when you actually aren't. it makes it harder for the enemies to hit you. at first, i was like damn some of these abilities are straight-up legalized cheats lmao.
yeah its pretty blatant. not just the perfect aim (only on normal attacks) and wall hacks, but also seemingly being aware of enemies that never appeared on her screen and turning to snipe them instantly.
the fact that theres straight up hitscan champions in the game and hela is one for ex doesnt make the whole cheater-scenario better tbh. i see large problems there for ranked games in the future getting lazered like that
This doesn't bode super well for the cheat detect in this game... Though I suppose OW cheater protect has been on vacation for like a year or 2 so what's the difference
The devs did say that they have a system that detected cheaters in the beta within 7 games. Cheaters aren't going to not be there. The question is how quickly they are found and kicked.
I also got my first cheater yesterday. He was playing iron man, his aim was normal for the first round where he lost, then second and third it would jitter and get all snappy out of nowhere. Not like the OW ones but still completely aim bot.. uh I hope netease doesn't let that get any worse
That's the thing with free games, it attracts cheaters to the game. A Reason why so many cheaters in dbd use an Epic Games account is that the game can be free from time to time, so often when it is free, hackers make many Epic accounts and then get the game for free on all of them, just so if they get banned for cheating, they have another one to go. I had seen fewer cheaters when overwatch was still overwatch 1, as you had to pay for it. Only times where maybe free weekends. But ever since its free, the amount of hackers has spiked. This happens in any game, that's free and competitive. Not to mention a newer games that are as popular and talked about like Marvel Rivals
I know you say that they were arguing with each other and didn't know that he was cheating, but it's still possible that the other team realized that he was hacking based on his positioning/gameplay when compared with the shots he hit and the lobby rank. He also could have been bragging about the cheating, had the Punisher main threaten to throw the game before the argument, then picked Punisher out of spite - people can be THAT petty. Normally I despise people who blatantly throw/flame, but if you're gonna do it to anyone, do it to a hacker and I'll be happy with you.
Seeing how massive the cheat community is & how fast someone is to dump the game's code online for others to use, I'm not surprised. I've played so much CSGO I just stop caring about cheaters, the only thing I care is how good the anticheat is & how quick devs are to dealing with them.
WAIT HOLY SHIT I FOUGHT THIS GUY BEFORE!!!! yeah I was able to confirm from outlr game he is a cheater. I bullied him with Peni with webbing him a bunch, trapping every vantage point he wanted to use, and with a spider-man on my team would constantly pull him into my active mine field to get nuked. He raged in the chat and dropped a bunch of altered slurs and it was the funniest shit ever.
This is why I only play competitive games on console even though I have a decent PC Sure there are strike packs, but you will never run into aimbot/wallhacks etc on console
Me toco un hawkeye cheaters en una partida, cuando todos lo notamos e incluso su propio equipo lo notaron cambio a punisher. Lo delato aun mas porque no fallaba un tiro y te seguia atravez de las paredes, yo usando a Scarlet Wicht me disparaba una rafaga perfecta seguida incluso siendo invisible.
Cheaters get off by irritating other players and trying to show off, as such, many of them also try to gain fame with it, because ppl like to watch skilled players. Another reason is that the person is so childish he cant deal with losing any match, thinking it is unfair or that every one is using so he will level the plain field. It is disgusting and in many cases can kill games if not dealt with.
Yeah its crazy how cheaters is an issue with this game too. I have only been playing Marvel Rivals and The First Descendant these days. Both games have anti cheat software running 24/7 but doesn't stop these people. Its insane though, I understand people cheating in a pvp game is very common these days but doing it in a purely PvE game like TFD is just baffling!
Not really that baffling. A game where the grind can become beyond insanely time consuming, people will cheat to kill stuff faster. It's dumb sure, but not surprising lol
@IIMiikexDII ok yeah that's actually true, the grind used to be so horrible but they have improved it a lot now tbh. There are still some rare cases where cheaters will one shot the end game colossus but Nexon has been pretty proactive with handing out punishments
Think the thing with cheaters is that they are always losing. So to them winning these games means they are getting validation of their delusion that they are the cool kid and not a loser anymore. For the bought accounts, they just think they lose because everyone else sucks and they are gods that deserve to be high ranked while seeing the buying as getting by elo hell they don't "deserve"" to be in and when in high elo games they still blame the teammates. For both types of players, it's always everyone else's fault
I’m really scared about the anticheat because netease is a Chinese company. In China cheating isn’t seen as a bad thing, it’s what you do to get ahead in games.
There was a Thor cheater in a casual just now, me as Iron fist and 2 others as hulk and spiderman just wailing on this guy and not a pip of his health was going down, heck we even forgot the mission and just wanted to kill him lmao For 2 minutes we jump him and nothing happened, then after we lost the match we 3 had to endure the rest of our team calling us scrubs and rats 😂😂😂 Thats really unfortunate, the game is really good( and I dont even like hero shooters) but to find its already getting populated by people like this... 🤦
I haven’t cheated but due to the performance of my device sometimes my dpi goes super high and sends my screen flying when too much things happen lol. I kinda worry it makes me look like I am cheating. Happened to me in beta as well lol.
Saw Cheats on day 1. Had a Punisher lock onto people in turret mode so yeah, not a fun time. I find this game to be fun, but cheaters just take away that fun for their own amusement.
That's why I gave up FPS multiplayer online games. You will always be on doubt if someone is cheating or playing really good. Notice that modern cheats mimetize human behaviour so they will turn it on/off to not make it too batlant.
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You are just part of a culture that calls this cheating. In other parts of the world this is simply a different way to enjoy the game. Try to be more open minded.
you couldn’t of presented a more unanimously disagreeable opinion. Nobody likes cheaters
@@Ablackdruid you are joking right?
You are filth. Nobody likes cheaters. If it's simply a different way to enjoy the game within another part of the world, then keep it within that part of the world. The rest of the world does not want cheaters, not ever.
Pin of shame
hahahaha
Cheaters populate games really quickly. It's never surprising to have cheaters in the first few days of a new shooter, but how long they last is what could be a bad sign.
Looks like the community team is taking this kind of things seriously (along with the dev team). I mean, I already reported a few people for minor things (like inappropriate nicknames) and got a response pretty soon informing that they have already changed names as a "punishment". I expected much less coming from NetEase and got really surprised by how quick it was (took just a few hours). And on some cases of cheating it seems like some cheaters have already been banned. It looks like they're taking action just based on reports by now, but will probably have some form of automation down the line. Sounds good enough to me since it's a brand new game.
@@KlebinDaBoca that's really good to hear
They seem to be taken care of quite fast actually. Remember we can also help the devs by reporting as much as possible.
@Marcus-Gold yeah they seem to be doing all the right things, it's a real breath of fresh air in the current gaming climate
@@KlebinDaBocaplease tell me you dont report names like poopybutt but just slurs
There was a cheater in casual day one... I snuck up behind enemy lines as Spider-Man, and the Punisher in the turret just snaped 180 degrees around himself and instantly killed me...
Did you get his footage or spectate cause you could’ve been lagging
@@justdrawdotcom4647 Looks like a match replay. Any match you play, you can watch a replay and choose to follow any of the players that were in the match
Lol I had the same experience with my friend night one. Dude was walling with iron man, I'd be behind him invisible as psylocke and he'd prefire before I could turn the corner
@@justdrawdotcom4647 i saw his kill cam. He literally snapped 180 degrees backwards to kill me, even though there was no way for him to even know i was there, since i was coming at him from the direction of their spawn, and he was behind the rest of his team. In other kill cams of him i saw his reticle snap to people just like in this video. No other player looked like that in their kill cams...
I think you get matched up with bots if you lose too much in quick play
The report system so far is great. I have reported people for chat abuse and such and you get a notification saying who you reported and what action was taken it was sooo satisfying to see someone who was using slurs in game get chat banned and it notified me of it.
Reporting people for literal "typed words" is beyond insane...
Willing to bet everything in my bank account you're the kind to report someone for something as simple as a curse word...😐
@Invictus-XVI imagine being mad at being held accountable for being racist. That is crazy.
@@Invictus-XVI bet you’re one of them
@@Invictus-XVIit’s a little more than a curse wors
@@Invictus-XVI"NuOooOIOO, i cAn'T insUlT pEopLe aNd bE tOxiC"
>kernel level anti-cheat
>blatant hackers day 2 of ranked
Insane
everytime
Meanwhile Roblox is getting rid of 99% of the cheaters on Windows with usermode anti-cheat
The game has 20 million people playing it you think a couple of them aren't cheating? Get real. All anti cheat are Kernel level you don't even know what that means past what you heard in youtube videos and the Reddit echo chamber of people who really need to take a shower. EVERY SINGLE anti cheat is kernel level.
@@user-if9pp4vg7g World of Warcraft's anticheat (Warden) is fully usermode, Roblox's anticheat (Byfron) is fully usermode, funnily enough, these outperform most kernel anticheats because kernel anticheats just do the same thing than usermode anticheats but it is for lazy people because it's easier to detect things with kernel access, if you're good enough, usermode is way more than enough, what can I say, people like to overkill, but it's mostly a SKILL ISSUE
@@user-if9pp4vg7gThis is simply untrue. In fact, a majority of "smaller" developers just use input detection and/or hook detection, though now with OBS and Discord both being so common to hook those are extremely insecure methods. Point to say, no. It's not "all kernel level" and I'd venture to guess you barely even know what that means yourself.
Edited because I can't spell when I type too fast. Also going to mention in advance you won't get a reply but hopefully a different developer will correct if you say something ridiculous a second time.
Interesting, literally every cheater I've seen so far (including beta) has been playing Hela.
it's because her projectiles are ridiculously strong.
She deals 70 damage, starts to falls off after 18m, up to 30m at 70% damage at 2 rounds per second
in comparison the other sharpshooters in the game:
Black Widow's rifle does 120 damage - no fall off, IF she fires from ADS (which has a mini-charge time) at .83 round per second. (fall of is 10m up to 50% damage on 20m - so yeah she's basically forced to snipe)
Clint on the other hand does 80 damage on max charge (.9 seconds) doesn't fall off. Much better if not for the fact that not charge at all makes him fire a TWO damage arrow. eugh.
This makes her the best no-scope semi-auto sniper as headshots or critical hit as they are called deal x2.1 damage.
Plus really if you're gonna wall hack and auto-aim I'm pretty sure it's more obvious if you're ADS long distance or charging per attack.
@@Valorhammer She deals 86 dmg, not 70, because of the awesome season buff mechanic
@@Valorhammer She's also hitscan. Aim hacks don't work as well with projectile travel time and drop factored in
@@CulturedDegenerate why they thought hela being hitscan was a good idea is beyond me. She should be projectiles with how ridiculous her damage is with no scope.
@CulturedDegenerate That's not accurate. Programming-wise, projectiles in this game are fast enough that their trajectory can be predicted using basic linear interpolation or velocity-based calculations, without needing complex simulations. It's straightforward and computationally light.
Guys I think there might already be cheaters in marvel rivals ranked
There are*
There most certainly are... An incredible amount as well.
um do you have any proof
@@logitechgamingmouse3985pfft you definitely are one of them.
Absolutely yes. I guess it's no too big of a surprise as all fps games are struggling dealing with the cheaters...
@@logitechgamingmouse3985 Yeah actually. I'm pretty sure I've saved a few clips. They just need some editing is all.
That's literally awful, gotta love other people who like to ruin it for everyone else
Imagine not putting time and effort in playing a game but to instead to resorting to cheating 😅
That's literally the point, or the case of skill issue and their wasting money on cheats.
@M4TTYN but we can all agree that cheaters suck and ruin the fun 😞
@@M4TTYN tbh we need the electric chair for cheating in online gaming
There may be a monetary incentive here. Its a classic of competitive games where a person boosts an account and then sells it for profit. The issue is pretty rampant in league of legends. Cheating just allows someone to climb higher and faster.
And if there is not a monetary incentive and its all just ego. Plenty of people only interact with media for escapist purposes, not to have 'fun' or get good at a game. For the cheater, escapism takes the form of a power fantasy where they just roll over the competition.
this guy trying to speedrun a ban
Free game tho, just make a new account
and chinese games publicly shame them on a ban list
@@M4TTYN i mean i wish that had teeth but it dont they just make a new anom account
"they buy a high ranked account because they think they deserve it then get a rude awakening" I wish.... half the time they just go "I was GM but my teammates were awful so now I'm back down to gold" then buy another account
6:50 It's a projectile Ult, remember if he's using an AIM bot the program is not compensating for travel time. This is typically why players who use hacks play Hit-Scan centric shooters.
Will mention that cheats do have the ability to account for projectiles. That kind of calculation is incredibly easy to code but is also even more obvious played back. Popularly you can look up old videos of Apex Legends cheaters.
It's not a shock that cheaters already exist. First cheats to the market will make bank so they will rush them out.
Bro I’ve alr encountered over 6 cheaters, and then even weren’t trying to hide, all of them was just rage cheating, it crazy that this game just came out Iike few days
What's rage cheating?
@@anthonysmith1228 Only start to cheat, when your team is about to lose, or because you have been killed (Outskilled) by the enemy team too many times (Sometimes it can be just one Death). So you are mad and turn on your hack to "Show it to them" or to try and get the win. Different than just cheating from the start of the match, as most often it's a hurt ego, or the person thinking they are better than everyone, but then being proved wrong.
@@darkblossum4379 rage cheating is also when they are blatantly obvious. since someone hiding cheats would get mad they are losing and then turn them up full blast. the term isn't as ingrained with its origin anymore as someone can be rage cheating from the first second of a game with it still being considered rage cheating
I’m ngl, someone in a discord server reported somebody for cheating on account of aimbot. And assumably they are banned until 2124. Fucking wild
yea i recently saw ML7's vod about this. it was crazy
Yeah… someone once got %100 accuracy. Like, I’m a big believer in good aim, but getting %100 is not even possible 😭
the magic bullet thing was also in titanfall 2 but we called it soft aimbot. gotta be one of the worst ones to go against cause in killcams their aim looks completely normal (and in a game that fast especially it can be hard to tell sometimes if their aim was actually far enough off to warrant a miss) the big thing that gave it away in titanfall was that the bullet trails would curve if they used certain weapons and usually theyd go perfectly center mass cause pure headshots in titanfall was just obvious cheating. Idk if there will be a giveaway like that in rivals but hopefully what theyve said about the anticheat in marvel rivals is true so these players are out of the playerpool pretty quickly.
the thing was it was customizable too so you could chose exactly how many degrees you could be off by for it to lock on the best cheaters would have it on like 0.2 degrees of error and it was super hard to tell
Oh interesting. I didn't know that was a thing. I thought this kind of looked like an auto-clicker that detects when firing will result in a hit and does it automatically. It also looks like totally normal gameplay for the most part, until someone goes afk with their stream on and you can see they are still firing whenever someone moves past their crosshair.
In death cam it's so easy to see, had a punisher on his turret. You can't tell me that he saw me out of his field of view shooting someone else not even killing them but then turn to me (me haven't even damage him and I was low) and shoot me.
I have tried cheating in games, usually in customs and it's actually just so fucking boring but I've met people deluded enough to believe that the cheats are just "a little helpful" and their actual skill level is good enough or maybe just a few ranks lower. I won't even pretend to be high ranked bro dude I'm like peak bronze in every competitive game I play lmao but yeah, playing games with hacks is actually just so mind-numbing. I know a few people who do it bc they're like "ah these people practiced hard to get here and all I have to do is download these files" which I don't get at all but I know is a real mindset people have.
How boring. I dont even know why someone would waste their own time doing so
@@CR4CKSM0K3R I agree, it's boring, it sucks the life out of these things. This can be applied to art and AI art as well, people desire the skill but do not want to do the work, not recognizing that the work adds value to the end result. Cheaters generally enjoy the "number go up" aspect of getting a lot of kills, but do not enjoy the grind of actually ranking up. I personally had to relearn to enjoy things just for the sake of enjoying them instead of only enjoying a game if I do well (which is good for me bc as I said, I'm ass and would never have fun if I was still focused on winning)
The night and day difference when he goes into Hella ult 😂😂
Cheating in a game with a kill cam and in-built replay system... You'd either have to be a complete idiot, or a total psychopath who just enjoys being the most boring person in existence to try that.
siege has both features and was probably the most cheater infected game not long ago
Kill cams and replay systems don't mean anything if the company won't actually do anything to restrict them from playing, which is most cases in gaming.
People are sad. Imagine lacking so much confidence that you need to cheat in a video game that hasn't even been out for a year.
I think an angle a lot of ppl do not think of is most cheaters lack an ungodly amount of empathy like a narcissist or sociopath for example the far end of those brain types/spectrum show almost no signs of empathy or none at all when their brains are scanned for empathetic reactions.. to them they know its a cheap win but what they want if not money is admiration. its fine if u or ppl in this comment thread think he's/she is a low life. bc all that person needs is a few ppl to think hes rly great... and that to a narcissist is worth more then almost anything. how their perceived matters much more then how they rly are. integrity and a care for others is just not something they have access to or care will ever care about and some are so unaware they think other ppl think like that(when their the minority atm) and are unaware their lack of empathy means they will never experience all the human emotions normally. like what is "love" if ur brain shows no sign of empathy under a microscope.. its just an imitation and usually a poor one but some sociopaths do form bonds however manipulation is still something they do at the root of all or most of their actions. others perceptions being twisted by their manipulation would effect them in no way as long as they get what they want. like if their GF or whatever thinks there great at games they dont care there bending reality around someone they say they love they just want to be seen that way. its a very empty and parasitic way of living but to them is the most fulfilling thing Ever
also for anyone curious lol narcissist and sociopaths are rarely hereditary "illnesses". their made and the process is basically they grew up not using empathy or ever feeling it in their emotions. and during the brains development its possible to gimp a brain that could had formed empathy and turn them into a narcissist or sociopath and there is no reversing that process after a point/age. but also empathy is a spectrum. some ppl have so many empathetic neurons or whatever they will cry seeing someone cry over something or most things. like they just feel sad seeing this person genuinely sad. thats kind of the extreme spectrum for empathy. and ppl can be empathetic enough they wont cry bc they see someone crying. so like the frontal lobe which controls empathy can be altered through their own thoughts and need to feel superior. the only happy brain chemicals they feel is when their superior or perceived to be. its like sociopaths and narcissist inflict brain damage onto themselves by having an ego so weak they rly think outward forms of validation is all they need. like I would theorize a Ton of cheaters and horrible ppl know its horrible and know there ruining/taking others time and do not care bc they simply just lack a frontal lobe that developed empathy and the ego fuel is literally all they do anything for.
but like there are lots of reasons ppl cheat tho for sure and just for money or sadistic wants to ruin ppls time are imo the most common. a 100 dollars to sell an account + the praise from random internet ppl they queue with is a good enough hobby for them.
I encountered a cheating widow day 1 of the game, I saw the kill cam and their screen just snapped like 60° onto my head. We still won and the widow didn't make any noticeable plays but still. Cheater on day 1
We had em in beta. In 100ish hours on beta, I encountered _one_ I can confirm with 100%.
Cheats in this game work funny because of the destructible terrain. Then there's the classic lagswitching on consoles.
Hopefully the devs make it harder for them to cheat in the future
I've been shot through structure before it was broken, either the guy was betting someone was going past that wall or they had cheats that saw my head, either way the punisher and his turret melted the way and got a few hits on me before I dashed away
Why am I not surprise...since I had found a few hawkeye cheaters in the beginning as well. It's just how it is in online gaming nowadays...just need to see how MR will deal with cheaters.
I saw a groot cheater in casual. It’s insane already
I got a hela cheater today too, i didn't even realize until the end of the game where she had 40 kills (everyone else in the lobby had 10-15) her own teammate called her out in chat once we lost and it finally clicked 😅
I had a game as Iron man where I was fighting a Psylocke, and I made a very deliberate effort to hide behind tree foliage, and yet, she managed to land three perfect body shots on me. I feel validated that they were probably just cheating.
This gotta be one of the stupidest cheaters alive.
I feel like I've seen a few people straight up using subtle wall hacks too. Had a game as psylocke earlier where I'd be hiding around corners and a Luna would jump around the corner pre aiming her freeze at me and said "ur predictable" which is completely horse shit lmao
Good thing about this game is highlight system and reporting actually works I hope it gets a replay system too
It's soooo dope that you can go back and watch
Hey Eskay. You're my most viewed on Twitch recap. Pretty awesome ❤
yippee!!
One thing I will give credit to netease is that they don't tolerate cheating or abusive chat and ban ppl all the time. They are always on top of cheaters and jerks.
If you need people banned for “abusive chat” you’re a fruitcake
i was wolverine and had a bucky head tap me, i did the wolverine dash, (which is like instant btw) and i was even out of his view in the kill cam, he instantly flicked me at the end of the dash.
I encountered the same thing, the kill cam showed that they locked on to me while I was behind a wall and followed me till I walked out
was also a hela player
"Cheating is often more efficient"
~Seven Of Nine - Star Trek Voyager~
Yeah there is! Had someone spamming ult in one match it was pretty funny
Games have let cheaters go for a few weeks (maybe they will buy something), then do massive bans.
Ranked is just filled with whiney cowards. If you can’t play your main you throw the game like a child, or the cheaters in general cause they can’t handle a loss.
I honestly don't get how you can even have only one main in a game like this... I feel you can easily find 6 characters you like to play and can be good with, so that there's always at least one of them that didn't get picked by anyone else...
@ yeah. If anything it’s smart to always have at the least 3-4 back up picks. Especially if it’s really popular like Jeff or Spider-Man. Me I have 2 choices of each class at the least I might be a bad tank but if we need one and no one wants to soak up damage I’ll go tank or just be the 3rd strategist if cloak and dagger are open.
@@unseeninja83 Same. Picking 2 from each role makes sure that not only will you always have a character to play, but also if five of them are already chosen, your final pick will balance the team.
@@AndreyKrichevsky I understand it, some people don't want/feel like/have the time to put in the effort to learn another character. However, I wouldn't throw if I was someone who one-tricked unless there was a hacker. I'd find the next closest thing that's available, and tell my team that I might not carry my weight.
And I'm someone who isn't even touching ranked until I get more used to some of the characters that I want to play. The game keeps going "Yo bro, you're too good, go play ranked!" and I'm just there thinking "I'm level 11 with less than 3 hours on the game, I'm not ready for ranked yet" - I don't know what my second support will be behind Jeff (leaning Mantis), and I haven't touched half of the DPS so I just know that I like Squirrel Girl and Iron Man there. At least with Tank I know I like Doctor Strange, Thor, and Hulk.
Ive run into two widows who were insta snapping
The game is full of cheaters , and no they dont get banned pretty fast
It's even worse now, there are entire teams of people doing this. And then quickplay is full of bots impossible to lose against. Awful game hahaha
was in quick play, and the enemy namor literally phased through all mine and my teams attacks, and never took damage, never had a single cool down, and basically had 10 octo turrets in one spot, instead of the usual 2 at a time.
Replay was bugged at the time this was uploaded. But
It is kind of crazy how some of it just looks like cracked aim, but then there are the moments where it just locks onto someone lmao. Crazy shit
I've also seen Winter Soldiers cheat. Which is wild considering the man doesn't even have to aim.
Came across a Warlock aimbotter. Wasn't even trying to hide it
she may be cheating, but the 2:15 doesn't do justice because the game records at a lower data, meaning the movement is not smooth, and the aim is snappy aimbot-like. depending on the server performance, what you see is miliseconds in the past, so in this video, she may shoot at nothing, but it connects, but in her POV, she shot at the enemies directly. like Team Fortress 2 spectator cam.
Although it is possible that she used
silent-aimbot = if your game ran at 66 ticks per second, you and others couldn't see the aimbot in action because the aimbot took action within he hidden 6 ticks. thus, you see, she aims somewhere else, but the hit register at someone she wasn't even aiming for. what you will see is the same as Star Lord's ultimate.
ESP = see-through walls. self explanatory.
Backtrack = it shows the enemies' ghost, you shoot that ghost, and it'll damage the owner of said ghost. what you will see is the same as one of Hawkeye's abilities.
Trigger-bot = automatically shoots whenever an enemy is within your lines of fire. can be set to shoot at head or body only.
It seems like she didn't use fake lag . It appears laggy when you actually aren't. it makes it harder for the enemies to hit you.
at first, i was like damn some of these abilities are straight-up legalized cheats lmao.
Aaaaaaand Eskay is a detective
cheaters and toxic players, they try and make this game feel like ow like nah bruh im actually having fun
What's the point in having the "Anti-cheat loading..." come up if it can't detect cheats?
how many cheater do you want to have in a new born game?
people: yes
yeah its pretty blatant. not just the perfect aim (only on normal attacks) and wall hacks, but also seemingly being aware of enemies that never appeared on her screen and turning to snipe them instantly.
the fact that theres straight up hitscan champions in the game and hela is one for ex doesnt make the whole cheater-scenario better tbh. i see large problems there for ranked games in the future getting lazered like that
It is pretty much inevitable for hero shooters, or FPS games in general to have cheaters.
any online game will have cheaters. not even just shooters.
Honestly, I think it's only on Hera, I may be wrong but the few times I've suspected some cheating going on, it's always come from a hera player
This doesn't bode super well for the cheat detect in this game... Though I suppose OW cheater protect has been on vacation for like a year or 2 so what's the difference
OW has cheater protect enabled and working well.
Their cheaters are very well protected, you can't do shit to them.
The devs did say that they have a system that detected cheaters in the beta within 7 games. Cheaters aren't going to not be there. The question is how quickly they are found and kicked.
@@AndreyKrichevsky Automatic detection and prevention are possible, but not implemented in Netease's proprietary anticheat.
I also got my first cheater yesterday. He was playing iron man, his aim was normal for the first round where he lost, then second and third it would jitter and get all snappy out of nowhere. Not like the OW ones but still completely aim bot.. uh I hope netease doesn't let that get any worse
Ran into cheater on day one of release as a Spiderman, dude was just killing people with one hit
Found your channel on front page as recommendations. So sad that cheaters come to this new game. 😶😶🌫
That's the thing with free games, it attracts cheaters to the game. A Reason why so many cheaters in dbd use an Epic Games account is that the game can be free from time to time, so often when it is free, hackers make many Epic accounts and then get the game for free on all of them, just so if they get banned for cheating, they have another one to go. I had seen fewer cheaters when overwatch was still overwatch 1, as you had to pay for it. Only times where maybe free weekends. But ever since its free, the amount of hackers has spiked. This happens in any game, that's free and competitive. Not to mention a newer games that are as popular and talked about like Marvel Rivals
I also met a cheater playing Hela yesterday. So cringe.
I know you say that they were arguing with each other and didn't know that he was cheating, but it's still possible that the other team realized that he was hacking based on his positioning/gameplay when compared with the shots he hit and the lobby rank. He also could have been bragging about the cheating, had the Punisher main threaten to throw the game before the argument, then picked Punisher out of spite - people can be THAT petty.
Normally I despise people who blatantly throw/flame, but if you're gonna do it to anyone, do it to a hacker and I'll be happy with you.
Seeing how massive the cheat community is & how fast someone is to dump the game's code online for others to use, I'm not surprised.
I've played so much CSGO I just stop caring about cheaters, the only thing I care is how good the anticheat is & how quick devs are to dealing with them.
It's okay I'll deal with them
thank you
This is the downside of a competitive focused game becoming F2P. FEAR COMBAT was notorious for this.
Are you surprised? I'm surprised it took this long.
The aim reticle is a bit off, try it in the target range, the crosshair has to be above the target to get a head shot.
WAIT HOLY SHIT I FOUGHT THIS GUY BEFORE!!!! yeah I was able to confirm from outlr game he is a cheater. I bullied him with Peni with webbing him a bunch, trapping every vantage point he wanted to use, and with a spider-man on my team would constantly pull him into my active mine field to get nuked. He raged in the chat and dropped a bunch of altered slurs and it was the funniest shit ever.
Let's be slightly generous, maybe the guy that went AFK notice the cheater on his own and threw on purpose.
getting crit 80% is crazy, that's definitely a cheat
Wait... being a Moon Knight main, how devastating would he be with cheats? Oh. Oh, no. Khonshu be with us.
His real aim is so bad he couldn't even hit anyone with Hela's GIANT ult projectiles
Ran into a captain america with infinite shield/healing. He had it for like 3 mins til someone called him out then he turned it off
This is why I only play competitive games on console even though I have a decent PC
Sure there are strike packs, but you will never run into aimbot/wallhacks etc on console
This game is cross play so u see players from all platforms when you play man
There's a console only setting
yeah ive seeing wall hacks already
Me toco un hawkeye cheaters en una partida, cuando todos lo notamos e incluso su propio equipo lo notaron cambio a punisher. Lo delato aun mas porque no fallaba un tiro y te seguia atravez de las paredes, yo usando a Scarlet Wicht me disparaba una rafaga perfecta seguida incluso siendo invisible.
Cheaters get off by irritating other players and trying to show off, as such, many of them also try to gain fame with it, because ppl like to watch skilled players. Another reason is that the person is so childish he cant deal with losing any match, thinking it is unfair or that every one is using so he will level the plain field. It is disgusting and in many cases can kill games if not dealt with.
Yeah its crazy how cheaters is an issue with this game too. I have only been playing Marvel Rivals and The First Descendant these days. Both games have anti cheat software running 24/7 but doesn't stop these people. Its insane though, I understand people cheating in a pvp game is very common these days but doing it in a purely PvE game like TFD is just baffling!
Not really that baffling. A game where the grind can become beyond insanely time consuming, people will cheat to kill stuff faster. It's dumb sure, but not surprising lol
@IIMiikexDII ok yeah that's actually true, the grind used to be so horrible but they have improved it a lot now tbh. There are still some rare cases where cheaters will one shot the end game colossus but Nexon has been pretty proactive with handing out punishments
Marvel Rivals is great, but if they don't have a good anti-cheat system in the game it could very well ruin it.
holy that persons pov is so jittery
His final Ult could have been done deliberately, he doesn't need to hit anyone, just stop the enemy using that door.
Think the thing with cheaters is that they are always losing. So to them winning these games means they are getting validation of their delusion that they are the cool kid and not a loser anymore. For the bought accounts, they just think they lose because everyone else sucks and they are gods that deserve to be high ranked while seeing the buying as getting by elo hell they don't "deserve"" to be in and when in high elo games they still blame the teammates.
For both types of players, it's always everyone else's fault
I’m really scared about the anticheat because netease is a Chinese company. In China cheating isn’t seen as a bad thing, it’s what you do to get ahead in games.
when you only have a couple hours a week to play games you can't improve naturally. just wish they would keep it amongst themselves
Cheating in a game like this just makes me delete it, not worth my time.
There was a Thor cheater in a casual just now, me as Iron fist and 2 others as hulk and spiderman just wailing on this guy and not a pip of his health was going down, heck we even forgot the mission and just wanted to kill him lmao
For 2 minutes we jump him and nothing happened, then after we lost the match we 3 had to endure the rest of our team calling us scrubs and rats 😂😂😂
Thats really unfortunate, the game is really good( and I dont even like hero shooters) but to find its already getting populated by people like this... 🤦
Game just came out when you're already messed it up way to go kids👍🏾
now i think making game with unreal engine really make people cheating so easy cause we have reverse tool everywhere
also, seeing the cheater snipe kayji, my ow2 and rivals rolemodel is really upsetting.
Got one and reported him. Surprisingly, they banned him.
wow im really glad for the kernel level anticheat that keeps crashing my game during ranked matches cool
I haven’t cheated but due to the performance of my device sometimes my dpi goes super high and sends my screen flying when too much things happen lol. I kinda worry it makes me look like I am cheating. Happened to me in beta as well lol.
Saw Cheats on day 1. Had a Punisher lock onto people in turret mode so yeah, not a fun time. I find this game to be fun, but cheaters just take away that fun for their own amusement.
If they're top 50 I must be the rank 1 player
That's why I gave up FPS multiplayer online games. You will always be on doubt if someone is cheating or playing really good.
Notice that modern cheats mimetize human behaviour so they will turn it on/off to not make it too batlant.
body shots on the venom yet all headshot dmg 1:56
dang pretty sad to cheat
With how unbalanced and broken this game is I don't blame the cheaters