I was working at Harley in the wheel department when this bike was introduced. The race wheels were very light but would bend if you weren’t careful when you mounted the tires. The cool thing was sound of it in the roll test booth!
Not a single person I know of opens a barn and proclaims weak valve springs will keep a graveyard vehicle down. It might float valves, it might miss, but it will run so send it if it's doomed to die.
@@spacecadet0 Do you completely understand what can happen to a high-performance engine such as this, if it has weak valve springs? It can do MUCH more than just "miss" or "float valves". With the valve lift that this engine certainly has, the valves are awfully close to the pistons. With weak springs, the valves can EASILY kiss the pistons if the springs can no longer control them properly, ESPECIALLY at the RPMs that thes race engines operate at. That would instantly destroy the engine. With a normal "economy" or lower power OEM engine the much lower valve lift, lower engine speeds, and the engineers designing in more room for safety, a weak valve spring isn't a huge issue. But in an engine like this, it most CERTAINLY IS. 4 valve springs for a 2 cylinder is inexpensive, and there's NO reason NOT to do it.
@@spacecadet0i don’t think springs will go bad by just sitting. I bought an R1 that was crashed, didn’t run for three years. I fixed the bent forks and wheel, put gas and oil, and started it up. It runs fine, and pulls to 12k rpm. Unless the v-rod uses the cheapest springs ever made, which I doubt since it was made by Porsche
If the motor locks up it could lock up the rear tire and the consequences could be fatal, no video or time slip is worth it if you don't live to show it off
Your story about your first fast bike reminds me of mine on a brand spanking new '87 Honda Hurricane 600 that belonged to the mechanic I took my car to as a kid. I was admiring the bike and he said, "You know how to ride?" I said I did, failing to mention that the biggest, fastest bike I'd ever ridden at that point was my uncles '70's something 250XR. Mechanic says, "Here, take it out and open it up." Yeah, he did, I kid you not. That was 30 plus years ago, the place was called "Master Tune" in Gallup, NM. I can still see the bike in my mind... yes, those first fast rides stick with you! I'd like to say I took it out and ripped up 66 on it (Highway 66 runs through Gallup), but I'd be lying. I got out on the road, slipped it into second and gently twisted the throttle and had my teeth pulled to the back of my throat. I idled the bike in second back to his shop and thanked him. He laughed and said, "Yeah, I'm scared of it too!"
To stay it's not safe you are going against the National Hot Rod Association safety Safari that forces every motorcycle or car manufacturer or sponsor to go through a series of check inspection as the National Hot Rod Association has the highest safety record ever boy learn how to do research before you put your brain in gear
V-Rod is a great motor and a fun bike, the only issue & its a big one..... if you are 6'4" you can't ride this bike for any distance at all and it has a 110 mile range.. so when i bought mine it was maybe 100 bikes in the state of Fla.
Love those bikes. Seems it would be worth checking valve clearance, and replacing the valve springs for good measure on that particular bike and putting it back to it's real use.
Absolutely.. I'd toss the valve springs also. I would guess that it's been sitting with at least one valve open for quite a while. That's a killer for springs when there's a large cam involved.
Those 21 bikes are not stashed. Harley gave them to pro race teams and I know MMI Orlando has one. One of my Screaming Eagle instructors has one, but he races top fuel now. His wife races a turbo Sportster.
The new allroad harley makes 150hp, so pretty close to this. Probably has also power/weight ratio but being so tall it's probably hard to get under 11 secs on quarter mile.
Did you know there are ways to lower the suspension on motorcycles and did you know there are other ways to just take that engine out of that stupid dirt bike and put it in a hardtail frame with no suspension at all but just a few inches off the ground or should I say the quarter mile drag strip
@@dongatello6969 IIRC he used to race bikes, not sure if he still does, but it was mantioned in their older videos, even some footage of him riding, i am also a bit surprised to see him here, but not that surprised
It WAS a Harley. It was never meant to replace the classic bagger. I still own a carbureted Evo Electra Glide and a V-Rod. They are both my favorite bikes I've ever owned for very different reasons. Both Harley!!!
@@chonkyhonky1887 Take it out to lunch. Without a speedometer, he wouldn't know how many miles you put on it. Better make sure the boss ain't there. Someone might hear it.)
@@karrpilot7092 i personally have put i would guess 100 miles on it in 5 months... Ill ask him if i can run it to McDonalds tomorrow. He is pretty cool about that. Ive taken his bikes, showroom bikes etc..
owned and raced one of these when they came out. I can tell you what the engine sounds like when its coming apart at 130 plus on the strip lol. that was an expensive rebuild. Ended up selling it and started racing a busa.
@@skyblazethereborn547 screw that. Bring it to Utah and put a headlight on it. They’ll take your money if it has dot tires and the minimum requirements.
@@Upliftyourbrothers so will the stats of Indiana as I acquired a state of Indiana motorcycle title after you get a cop to sign off on the inspection list of street legal lights Etc and I bought a vanity plate that said xr600r as that was my street bike for 20 years riding a race bike on the street. If you want the biggest Hoot get a cr500r 2-stroke and put some lights on it....and of course you will need a vanity plate with the numbers of CR500R ...AND you can ride it to now popular vintage motocross races win the race and tie your trophy to the front number plate headlight combo like Marlon Brando did in the movie The wild one when he had won a race in that movie on his old Triumph then go bar-hopping showing off your trophy LOL hehehe
My gf just broke up with me and my anxiety and nervous stomach have beeen causing me sheer agony your videos allow me to smile and distract myself from my pain thx bro
My man, I know exactly what your going through, I have the same nervous stomach that you have. And I ve had my share of break ups. Here are some tips 1) no drugs or alcohol. Those things will not numb the pain they will just prolong it. 2) surround yourself with good friends who can help distract you. And 3) you never know what Gods plan is for your life. the last girl that broke up with me just got done putting our 4 kids to bed and we have been happily married for 12 years. God could also have another better girl for you. So until she comes around become the man that she deserves. And find your comfort in the word of God
Never rode a bike in my life im 42 but I watch yall and im soooo interested speaks volumes for yall because im an a.d.d kinda guy! Maybe one day ill learn and get a bike unless yall have a class im there...
ps Hookes Law, those valve springs are distorted only in their elastic range, they will be Ok as long as there is no rust pitting (unlikely) to them. GO FOR IT!.
If the engine was completely sealed off in a showroom environment (which it sounds like it was), then I doubt there is rust. Also, you are correct about spring distortion. They have to be pushed out of their elastic range into their permanent deformation range, which isn't going to happen while sitting- that usually happens when an engine is overclocked. you can always just take the valve covers off and check for damage, rust pitting, and measure the tolerances.
@@FJ80Coop I know Chi-Town Harley used to have one on display. Conrads Harley has one still on display. There might be one at Fox River Harley still too. I'll pick my General Managers brain and see if any of our sister location might still have one.
I can think of one person that probably breathed a sigh of relief on the news about the bike not doing a drag strip run. That would be your wife, it's one less thing she needs to worry about.
7:36 "haven't actually ridden it, everything I've said about it I've read" really dude.... just frekin ride the thing before comparing it to a space shuttle.
Yeah. Gather the parts needed to get track-ready and just sit on it for a decade. I bet the value on this will double or triple. Of course, there is always the risk that it won't.
@@27Zangle it is a rare bike, limited, never been used to race, definitely it has all the parameters to become rare collectible. Would a gem stone of any collection.
Back when these wete new, my local H-D dealer had one, they wanted something like $30k or $60k, I can't remember for sure, but it was something outrageous like that.
I honestly feel like it would be fine. Maybe down a little on power but those valve springs are OK I'm willing to bet. I got the feeling the dealership wanted to make a little dough.
@@bdr7557 especially since those valve springs are the Beehive design made out of titanium built by Terry Vance and Byron Hines who used to work for Russ Collins if you catch my drift
@@bdr7557 Right. Gun forums have endlessly discussed whether storing loaded magazines causes their springs to fail. Engineers and experiences have concluded no weakness and no failures from storing springs compressed. The HD dealer was just spouting HD BS.
@@bdr7557 I used to think that also, but then I found out first hand that they DO... My drag race big-block has a roller cam with close to .750 lift and valve springs with 850lbs of open pressure. I used to put it away for the winter without touching the valvetrain at all. One year when I pulled the car out of storage for the season, I noticed a head gasket leaking. I pulled the heads off to repair it, and figured I would give them a quick once over as long as they were off the motor. As I was checking the valve springs for tension, I noticed that they were all fairly close except for a few of them that were pretty far out of spec compared to the rest of them, I'm talking like by 50+lbs. I went back and looked at the position of the lifters in the short block as I hadn't rotated it since I removed the heads, and sure enough, every valve spring that was down on pounds lined up with every lifter that was up on the cam lobes. I now pull the rocker arms off when I put the car away for the winter, they are shaft rockers and I can take them on and off without even having to re-lash them. Takes less than 30 minutes to do, and is worth it.
I remember seeing one of these in Little Rock when I was a kid. I saw it driving by the showroom and thought, who on earth would buy that 😂. Had no idea they were that rare.
After about a year of occasionally watching videos on here I finally found a reason to watch slightly more often (just for the laughs = lack of mechanical knowledge). Air Shifter inside the clutch cover?🤣 If you simply look at the Shift Lever you'll see the Air Ram that's bolted to it (and the frame)... And something you missed knowing/saying about the Destroyers is, there was a Destroyers only class in an all Harleys Drag racing series back then (I rode a mid-7 second Methanol Turbo HD that was only 103CID at those events) and one of the strictest rules in the Destroyer Class was you weren't allowed to modify the engine "to make more power" E.g. they always had a dyno at those events to check/confirm your Destroyer wasn't making more power...
He was so full of shit, the Stage IV's from Harley for the M8's push 141 HP and about 140 ft-lbs and they are not a "simple cam change" whole new head and pistons crying out loud. Also, I don't believe him on the valve springs. I own 2012 V-Rod anniversary edition and had a destroyer. They don't just "self-destruct." and if it were the case, getting the valve covers off on these V-Rods is a 1-2 hour job and people like Fitzgerald motorsports machine their own parts to rebuild the destroyer, same with Vreeland's.
@@Joes432 hell, check out shadetree surgeons channel where they dyno the 131 M8. Just like Shaun said, makes around 130 HP. Ive only seen one harley make over 200. And the motor had so much work in it there was no harley parts left in it
I don't think the cam change was the 200*200, because he was talking about forced induction and such, I think he was claiming a cam change could get you close to that destroyers numbers, which is also unlikely.
@@Joes432 the Destroyer came with beehive valve springs made out of titanium that are built by Screamin Eagle Vance & Hines Harley-Davidson drag racing team headquarters just north of Lucas Oil Raceway Park Brownsburg Indiana headquarters for Vance & Hines and the racing capital of the world Indianapolis Indiana my hometown
I know someone who has a destroyer. He ran it for the first time (on a drag track) a couple days ago (on 06/21/22) at Beach Bend Raceway in Bowling Green, KY. He did what he was supposed to do - he kept it a "break in" RPM's, but that bike is pretty awesome to watch. We'll see it some more in the coming weeks. It's pretty impressive.
Should preference it as, fast for a Harley. Liter bikes and bikes like Hayabusa and Ninja zx12 run 9-10 second and they're street legal with all the extra weight of lights, gauges and fairings. And they don't need wheelie bars to do it.
Yup my buddy had 3 at one time and then bought the Bonneville vrod that Harley had and we went to the salt and he was able to set a new record. In the altered engine form the bottom end bearings wouldn’t last more than a few minutes, the crankcase would flex enough that the bearings would self destruct and often spin. After his first pass on the flats the oil looked like gold metalflake paint. Put in the spare engine and pulled tuning out of it to set record.
Yep. High-powered engines with factory crankcases tend to do this. I'm into drag racing Oldsmobiles and with a factory block, every time I would get over 600-650 h.p. out of one, the main bearings would end up wasted in no time. The OEM blocks just weren't strong enough and would flex, pinching the bearings against the crank. I stepped up to an aftermarket 4-bolt block with MUCH beefier main bearing saddles and webs, and a Billet crank, and now I have no more bottom end issues at over 700h.p. and 7000+ RPMs.
Dads a vet,got 15 guns,has anger issue,s and love,s his little girl,,,so bring her home in one piece,,,,,,and not 1 second late...and no hand prints....
If you want a bike that can do 9 seconds, I heard a stock zx14r can do like 9.5, so maybe a slightly modified zx14r is what you're looking for! Not sure where you'd find one though, good luck on your hunt!
Let’s not forget this bike is nearly 20 years old now itself and no 30 year old jap bike is going to be laying down sub 10 second 1/4 mi times like this bike does. Despite have the same power. Heck even the late model jap sports bikes, very few of them can put down a sub 10 second 1/4mi time, especially without a good rider.
Ya know this dude buys a super rare awesome bike and then markets it in a video then sells it for profit. I could be wrong but if that's the case that's an amazing way to collect bikes (which he obviously loves), Make money, and entertain people. Brilliant! Love the content
That think is amazing! I would put the labor of love back into that and get it going! To me that is a bike that's kind of like an investment but I still ride the f*** out of it!
Changing valve springs is not a big job and aftermarket springs are available from plenty of cam companies. You just need the seat and open pressures of the stock springs and they can be ordered.
im doing some photo work for a band and the studio is literally 3 minutes down the road from you guys ! HAd no clue until recognized the roads you cruise. Id love to see the place. Daily harley rider !
My wife drag races at Norwalk OH. I think i have seen 1 of these there once. I used to have an 02 vrod with small mods for 115 hp that i raced, unfortunately sold it to buy her a trailer for her drag truck. awesome stuff. ive had a lot of bikes for being only 32, vrod was my favorite and i had it the longest with no issues at all. good stuff.
I washed and rode a few Vrods when I worked at Pikes Peak Harley... I had no idea the cvo was so rare, they weren't easy to ride around our parking lot... rough clutches. PPHD had a V-rod trike, if you'd be interested... it's stashed in back, cause the owner couldn't pay, years ago. Never seen one quite like yours!
I will be surprised if you see a 9 second run on that bike. They are fast, but I'm not so sure the average "destroyer" will do 9's. Good luck ! Have fun !
Yeah it should run high 9s. Pretty much any sport bike with a bit of suspension set up or a swing arm is running in the 9s. I’ve seen 600s scraping 9s and 1000s running 8s
With the wheelie bars, the slick tire, and air shifter it should be able to get into the 9’s. Most of that will come from being quick off the line and through the first 1/8th. Would be relatively slow on the big end.
Re: Modern Liter bikes can get into 9's. Maybe so with the right rider, but the average person wont buy a new liter bike and RIP a 9sec pass. I've seen more than a few people brag about what a magazine says their bike can do and be handed an 11 or 12 sec time slip after their trip to a dragstrip.
I ride 125 scooters for a daily, I had a go of my mates 1290 ktm Duke so I fully understand the story of when you had a go of your mates faster bikes haha
You need to check out the 2007 VRSCX screaming eagle street destroyer. It is the street version of the Destroyer drag bike. I have owned one for over 15 years. They only made 1400 VRSCX's so it's a pretty rare bike. :) did I mention it's stupid fast?
Compressed valve springs are generally not an issue, and unless you know for sure that it wasn't started the whole time it was parked you don't even know if they sat compressed.
Totally disagree with that mechanic. That engine is fine, go run it. I bought a gs1100 drag bike that Haden’s been started in 20years. Took to track and it ran like a raped ape. That’s like saying your springs on your car are bad after it sits for 14years with car sitting on wheels. Springs are fine.
BTW, I just got done restoring a 1985 Vmax drag bike, hopefully going to the track tonight. Built engine, nitrous (not hooked up yet), chain drive conversion, extended swing arm. It's an amazingly awesome machine. I need to add a air shifter, 2 step launch and get the nitrous setup soon. Colors are orang/black/carbon fiber, it's for CLL leukemia awareness for my wife's battle. I've wanted one since I was in HS when it came out in 1985 and was the world's fastest production bike. Here's a pic - photos.app.goo.gl/qZtFv5tAXXpzHUvA8
I knew that bike looked familiar. Walked pass it tons of times at Brian's. Never thought anything of it. But soon as I saw it on you channel, I had a feeling where it came from.
I have a lot more fun going slow on my CRF250L Rally but I’m glad you like it. Get it man. Get your new rear tire and air in the front. When you say Watch THIS! I will watch. Don’t kill yourself.
I rode on the back fender in Top Gear Sturgis with Tanner Faust for a day we had so much fun! Not gonna let my crossbones go but I need this in my life!
I raced against one of these back in 07 on my ZX14, video on my other channel, not of the actual race tho. Just me at the track on my 14. I dialed at 9.6 and he dialed a 9.3 and he took me within the first 120 feet and I couldn't reel him back in. Sacramento Raceway Park, 2007 Fox Hunt
I bet it feels like being superman on that bike. You guys could rebuild that motor during downtime through the week and Sendit on the track for another race season. It'd Make good content & fun at the dragstrip. You're only matching Tshirts away from a race team already.
Surely you could have a local bike mechanic pull the valve covers, pressurize the cylinder to hold the valves, compress and swap those springs so you can at least run a few passes before you swap that engine for a newer one. Or you could just sell that mint engine for more than the bike most likely, and use some of that cash to modernize that awesome frame.
$13k for a bike you can't ride...your wife is an absolute saint.
well look at all that plywood behind him, the guy must be a millionaire.
MISTER POOTIN 😶🌫️
$13k seems like a steal for one of the most notable bikes Harley ever made.
shes doesnt know , dont tell her
@@BikesandBeards or does she
I was working at Harley in the wheel department when this bike was introduced. The race wheels were very light but would bend if you weren’t careful when you mounted the tires. The cool thing was sound of it in the roll test booth!
I googled lite. It means low fat / low sugar?
If it's just going to sit around anyway, who cares if the motor's blown. I say take her to the track.
Not a single person I know of opens a barn and proclaims weak valve springs will keep a graveyard vehicle down. It might float valves, it might miss, but it will run so send it if it's doomed to die.
@@spacecadet0 Do you completely understand what can happen to a high-performance engine such as this, if it has weak valve springs?
It can do MUCH more than just "miss" or "float valves".
With the valve lift that this engine certainly has, the valves are awfully close to the pistons. With weak springs, the valves can EASILY kiss the pistons if the springs can no longer control them properly, ESPECIALLY at the RPMs that thes race engines operate at. That would instantly destroy the engine.
With a normal "economy" or lower power OEM engine the much lower valve lift, lower engine speeds, and the engineers designing in more room for safety, a weak valve spring isn't a huge issue.
But in an engine like this, it most CERTAINLY IS.
4 valve springs for a 2 cylinder is inexpensive, and there's NO reason NOT to do it.
@@spacecadet0i don’t think springs will go bad by just sitting. I bought an R1 that was crashed, didn’t run for three years. I fixed the bent forks and wheel, put gas and oil, and started it up. It runs fine, and pulls to 12k rpm. Unless the v-rod uses the cheapest springs ever made, which I doubt since it was made by Porsche
@@PatricioGarcia1973 fatigue comes in many forms. Cook it once.
If the motor locks up it could lock up the rear tire and the consequences could be fatal, no video or time slip is worth it if you don't live to show it off
Your story about your first fast bike reminds me of mine on a brand spanking new '87 Honda Hurricane 600 that belonged to the mechanic I took my car to as a kid. I was admiring the bike and he said, "You know how to ride?" I said I did, failing to mention that the biggest, fastest bike I'd ever ridden at that point was my uncles '70's something 250XR. Mechanic says, "Here, take it out and open it up." Yeah, he did, I kid you not. That was 30 plus years ago, the place was called "Master Tune" in Gallup, NM. I can still see the bike in my mind... yes, those first fast rides stick with you! I'd like to say I took it out and ripped up 66 on it (Highway 66 runs through Gallup), but I'd be lying. I got out on the road, slipped it into second and gently twisted the throttle and had my teeth pulled to the back of my throat. I idled the bike in second back to his shop and thanked him. He laughed and said, "Yeah, I'm scared of it too!"
"Dont let your daughter go to prom with a kid named Destroyer."
That's just good life advice right there.
Ah, he'd probably just be called 'Troy'...
@@dashingdave2665 Tiger Woods
wouldnt it be better if she didnt go with a guy named bill? especially Bill C.
The Prom, a relatively modern idea, still older than white, sliced bread and yet seemingly every bit as devoid of substance.
Depends how you take the name destroyer in what way 😂😂
“So we looked at the bike and everything is fine.”
“So it’s safe?”
“No”
To stay it's not safe you are going against the National Hot Rod Association safety Safari that forces every motorcycle or car manufacturer or sponsor to go through a series of check inspection as the National Hot Rod Association has the highest safety record ever boy learn how to do research before you put your brain in gear
@@donniebaker5984 Are you drunk? That was called a joke.
His face when he started it was priceless 🤣
kid's smile
He looked so happy
He was the happiest man alive
He could get a regular V Rod and interchange parts.
V-Rod is a great motor and a fun bike, the only issue & its a big one..... if you are 6'4" you can't ride this bike for any distance at all and it has a 110 mile range.. so when i bought mine it was maybe 100 bikes in the state of Fla.
Love those bikes. Seems it would be worth checking valve clearance, and replacing the valve springs for good measure on that particular bike and putting it back to it's real use.
Absolutely.. I'd toss the valve springs also. I would guess that it's been sitting with at least one valve open for quite a while. That's a killer for springs when there's a large cam involved.
Those 21 bikes are not stashed. Harley gave them to pro race teams and I know MMI Orlando has one. One of my Screaming Eagle instructors has one, but he races top fuel now. His wife races a turbo Sportster.
We just sold one at auction in Oregon
MMI Phoenix got one, too. That one he's showing looks exactly like the one we assembled and modded out at school. Was an awesome project!
@@nunyaargo9629 it was sitting in one of my classrooms at MMI PHX I can't remember which
@@greengoat5654 the V-Rod class when I was there, lol
The new allroad harley makes 150hp, so pretty close to this. Probably has also power/weight ratio but being so tall it's probably hard to get under 11 secs on quarter mile.
Did you know there are ways to lower the suspension on motorcycles and did you know there are other ways to just take that engine out of that stupid dirt bike and put it in a hardtail frame with no suspension at all but just a few inches off the ground or should I say the quarter mile drag strip
@@donniebaker5984 what?
It’s the pan America not “allroad” lol
Lauri what you doing here?
@@dongatello6969 IIRC he used to race bikes, not sure if he still does, but it was mantioned in their older videos, even some footage of him riding, i am also a bit surprised to see him here, but not that surprised
Old Harley Guy: I'm glad they got rid of that stupid V Rod that's not a Harley
After this video: BRING IT BACK!
"That's a Honda Davidson, man!"
Fools, vrod was the best thing Harley ever made. This on the other hand was a joke.
It WAS a Harley. It was never meant to replace the classic bagger. I still own a carbureted Evo Electra Glide and a V-Rod. They are both my favorite bikes I've ever owned for very different reasons. Both Harley!!!
I love my Nightrod. What makes it awesome is the fact that it’s Harley but in a different way.
The fastest harley is probably as fast as a $10,000 yamaha
Who else was staring at the flat tyre the whole time he was talking
Me. :)
Yes
me
Yea me too
In Tennessee it's a tire.
my local Harley dealer has had a destroyer on display for as long as I can remember
Most Harley Davidson dealers have all kinds of bikes on display. It's because they won't move off sticker.
The dealership i work for has a harley-davidson wla on display. I get to ride it around the shop twice a week.
@@chonkyhonky1887 Take it out to lunch. Without a speedometer, he wouldn't know how many miles you put on it. Better make sure the boss ain't there. Someone might hear it.)
@@karrpilot7092 i personally have put i would guess 100 miles on it in 5 months... Ill ask him if i can run it to McDonalds tomorrow. He is pretty cool about that. Ive taken his bikes, showroom bikes etc..
There are some parts still available. I had the privilege of taking one into the 9's. Hopefully you can too.
owned and raced one of these when they came out. I can tell you what the engine sounds like when its coming apart at 130 plus on the strip lol. that was an expensive rebuild. Ended up selling it and started racing a busa.
Destroyer? I’d like to get to know her first.. I’m a gentleman.
I was instantly bummed when he said it couldn't be registered to ride on the street. 😪
@@skyblazethereborn547 screw that. Bring it to Utah and put a headlight on it. They’ll take your money if it has dot tires and the minimum requirements.
Bring it to ,Auckland,New Zealand,fk the street legal,how they gonna catch ya,we got Skoda,s for cop cars,🤣🤣🤭😂😀😳
Mississippi cops won't bother you
@@Upliftyourbrothers so will the stats of Indiana as I acquired a state of Indiana motorcycle title after you get a cop to sign off on the inspection list of street legal lights Etc and I bought a vanity plate that said xr600r as that was my street bike for 20 years riding a race bike on the street. If you want the biggest Hoot get a cr500r 2-stroke and put some lights on it....and of course you will need a vanity plate with the numbers of CR500R ...AND you can ride it to now popular vintage motocross races win the race and tie your trophy to the front number plate headlight combo like Marlon Brando did in the movie The wild one when he had won a race in that movie on his old Triumph then go bar-hopping showing off your trophy LOL hehehe
@@SamlSchulze1104 but it will not turn 6 seconds in the quarter mile and it will not beat the reigning Champion that is Harley-Davidson
My gf just broke up with me and my anxiety and nervous stomach have beeen causing me sheer agony your videos allow me to smile and distract myself from my pain thx bro
My man, I know exactly what your going through, I have the same nervous stomach that you have. And I ve had my share of break ups. Here are some tips 1) no drugs or alcohol. Those things will not numb the pain they will just prolong it. 2) surround yourself with good friends who can help distract you. And 3) you never know what Gods plan is for your life. the last girl that broke up with me just got done putting our 4 kids to bed and we have been happily married for 12 years. God could also have another better girl for you. So until she comes around become the man that she deserves. And find your comfort in the word of God
You forgot the V-Rod Muscle. 🥺
gotta love all these audio level spikes outta nowhere
Yeah, this one was hard on my headphone-covered ears.
Never rode a bike in my life im 42 but I watch yall and im soooo interested speaks volumes for yall because im an a.d.d kinda guy! Maybe one day ill learn and get a bike unless yall have a class im there...
If you are serious about riding, start small. 100cc dirtbike will get you moving enough to learn the basics. From there....the sky is the limit
Next episode....Craig putting valve springs in this thing 😆
I would 100% frame swap it for a street version, and run it on the road.
Finally, a harley that can go 120 mph
ps Hookes Law, those valve springs are distorted only in their elastic range, they will be Ok as long as there is no rust pitting (unlikely) to them. GO FOR IT!.
If the engine was completely sealed off in a showroom environment (which it sounds like it was), then I doubt there is rust. Also, you are correct about spring distortion. They have to be pushed out of their elastic range into their permanent deformation range, which isn't going to happen while sitting- that usually happens when an engine is overclocked. you can always just take the valve covers off and check for damage, rust pitting, and measure the tolerances.
He sounded like they knew from experience. Personally I’d never heard of such a thing.
I’ll also add, the guys at Fitzgerald Motorsports in OH are making a version of this exhaust and are servicing these unicorns today!!
That needs to be labeled completely differently.... $13,000 for an iconic Irreplaceable piece of American history
1 is in the training center at the Harley Davidson headquarters in Milwaukee. There is also a couple in the vault at the Harley Davidson Museum.
interesting thanks for the info
Also a few in motorsickle museums around the country as well as a few HD dealerships who have held onto one as a showpiece...
@@FJ80Coop I know Chi-Town Harley used to have one on display. Conrads Harley has one still on display. There might be one at Fox River Harley still too. I'll pick my General Managers brain and see if any of our sister location might still have one.
I can think of one person that probably breathed a sigh of relief on the news about the bike not doing a drag strip run. That would be your wife, it's one less thing she needs to worry about.
7:36 "haven't actually ridden it, everything I've said about it I've read" really dude.... just frekin ride the thing before comparing it to a space shuttle.
The soundmixing is totally out of wack on this vid. Sean's volume fluctuates constantly...
It’s going to be so expensive in a no time. Just keep it. Desirable piece of art!
Yeah. Gather the parts needed to get track-ready and just sit on it for a decade. I bet the value on this will double or triple. Of course, there is always the risk that it won't.
@@27Zangle it is a rare bike, limited, never been used to race, definitely it has all the parameters to become rare collectible. Would a gem stone of any collection.
I'd hang it from the ceiling.
Back when these wete new, my local H-D dealer had one, they wanted something like $30k or $60k, I can't remember for sure, but it was something outrageous like that.
I honestly feel like it would be fine. Maybe down a little on power but those valve springs are OK I'm willing to bet. I got the feeling the dealership wanted to make a little dough.
Springs wear from being compressed and released, they wouldn't wear out from just being compressed.
@@bdr7557 especially since those valve springs are the Beehive design made out of titanium built by Terry Vance and Byron Hines who used to work for Russ Collins if you catch my drift
@@bdr7557 Right. Gun forums have endlessly discussed whether storing loaded magazines causes their springs to fail. Engineers and experiences have concluded no weakness and no failures from storing springs compressed. The HD dealer was just spouting HD BS.
@@bdr7557 I used to think that also, but then I found out first hand that they DO... My drag race big-block has a roller cam with close to .750 lift and valve springs with 850lbs of open pressure. I used to put it away for the winter without touching the valvetrain at all. One year when I pulled the car out of storage for the season, I noticed a head gasket leaking. I pulled the heads off to repair it, and figured I would give them a quick once over as long as they were off the motor. As I was checking the valve springs for tension, I noticed that they were all fairly close except for a few of them that were pretty far out of spec compared to the rest of them, I'm talking like by 50+lbs. I went back and looked at the position of the lifters in the short block as I hadn't rotated it since I removed the heads, and sure enough, every valve spring that was down on pounds lined up with every lifter that was up on the cam lobes. I now pull the rocker arms off when I put the car away for the winter, they are shaft rockers and I can take them on and off without even having to re-lash them. Takes less than 30 minutes to do, and is worth it.
@@donniebaker5984 Being a beehive design or beimg made out of Titanium has nothing to do with storing them under compression.
It sounds like the 505" big block in my 9 second drag car, but minus 6 cylinders..
Bad-ass bike! I like it ALOT... 👌👍
You should have dressed Caleb in an apron and had him ring the triangle kickstand and say, "Dinner's ready!"
😂
Awesome bike
Definitely
I remember seeing one of these in Little Rock when I was a kid. I saw it driving by the showroom and thought, who on earth would buy that 😂. Had no idea they were that rare.
After about a year of occasionally watching videos on here I finally found a reason to watch slightly more often (just for the laughs = lack of mechanical knowledge).
Air Shifter inside the clutch cover?🤣 If you simply look at the Shift Lever you'll see the Air Ram that's bolted to it (and the frame)...
And something you missed knowing/saying about the Destroyers is, there was a Destroyers only class in an all Harleys Drag racing series back then
(I rode a mid-7 second Methanol Turbo HD that was only 103CID at those events) and one of the strictest rules in the Destroyer Class was you weren't
allowed to modify the engine "to make more power" E.g. they always had a dyno at those events to check/confirm your Destroyer wasn't making more power...
Nobody cares that you know more than the channel host.
My god I need that ridiculous thing in my life! Hell of a find!! NICE
You can still buy brand new and still in the crate for 50000
@@donniebaker5984 Good to know... I will NOT be spending 50k lol
This guy does this, cuz we all wanna see every video he posts. I live vicariously through him. We all do
Put some air in that front tire!
Nope just keep front tire in the air
9:15 Sounds like when I jumped off my 15bhp R125 onto the GSXR600 that i'd just bought. Not sure i'll ever have a feeling like that again.
Am I the only one who laughed when the dude said they can get 200 horse and 200 ft/lbs out of an M8 with a cam change?
He was so full of shit, the Stage IV's from Harley for the M8's push 141 HP and about 140 ft-lbs and they are not a "simple cam change" whole new head and pistons crying out loud. Also, I don't believe him on the valve springs. I own 2012 V-Rod anniversary edition and had a destroyer. They don't just "self-destruct." and if it were the case, getting the valve covers off on these V-Rods is a 1-2 hour job and people like Fitzgerald motorsports machine their own parts to rebuild the destroyer, same with Vreeland's.
@@Joes432 hell, check out shadetree surgeons channel where they dyno the 131 M8. Just like Shaun said, makes around 130 HP. Ive only seen one harley make over 200. And the motor had so much work in it there was no harley parts left in it
I don't think the cam change was the 200*200, because he was talking about forced induction and such, I think he was claiming a cam change could get you close to that destroyers numbers, which is also unlikely.
@@TearlessGosling I rewatched it. Qoute "we can get close to those numbers with a cam only in the Milwaukee 8. It's pretty simple to make over 200 HP"
@@Joes432 the Destroyer came with beehive valve springs made out of titanium that are built by Screamin Eagle Vance & Hines Harley-Davidson drag racing team headquarters just north of Lucas Oil Raceway Park Brownsburg Indiana headquarters for Vance & Hines and the racing capital of the world Indianapolis Indiana my hometown
I know someone who has a destroyer. He ran it for the first time (on a drag track) a couple days ago (on 06/21/22) at Beach Bend Raceway in Bowling Green, KY. He did what he was supposed to do - he kept it a "break in" RPM's, but that bike is pretty awesome to watch. We'll see it some more in the coming weeks. It's pretty impressive.
Should preference it as, fast for a Harley. Liter bikes and bikes like Hayabusa and Ninja zx12 run 9-10 second and they're street legal with all the extra weight of lights, gauges and fairings. And they don't need wheelie bars to do it.
Yup my buddy had 3 at one time and then bought the Bonneville vrod that Harley had and we went to the salt and he was able to set a new record. In the altered engine form the bottom end bearings wouldn’t last more than a few minutes, the crankcase would flex enough that the bearings would self destruct and often spin. After his first pass on the flats the oil looked like gold metalflake paint. Put in the spare engine and pulled tuning out of it to set record.
Yep. High-powered engines with factory crankcases tend to do this.
I'm into drag racing Oldsmobiles and with a factory block, every time I would get over 600-650 h.p. out of one, the main bearings would end up wasted in no time. The OEM blocks just weren't strong enough and would flex, pinching the bearings against the crank. I stepped up to an aftermarket 4-bolt block with MUCH beefier main bearing saddles and webs, and a Billet crank, and now I have no more bottom end issues at over 700h.p. and 7000+ RPMs.
if your daughter goes to prom with someone named destroyer, well i think we all know whats gonna happen to her that night....
Lol tf
Destroy - her ?
I don't get it.....:/
Looks like dads gonna be a shaparone for the prom,(if thats how you spell it)
Dads a vet,got 15 guns,has anger issue,s and love,s his little girl,,,so bring her home in one piece,,,,,,and not 1 second late...and no hand prints....
The way he looked at the camera when the HD guy said,"....it's a beautiful piece of art.."😂😂😂
If you want a bike that can do 9 seconds, I heard a stock zx14r can do like 9.5, so maybe a slightly modified zx14r is what you're looking for! Not sure where you'd find one though, good luck on your hunt!
nooo!, keep it, run it, if it blows up then it becomes a piece of office 'furniture'. Best B&B vid' i've seen, the anticipation was overwhelming.
I remember one of those sitting behind parts counter at Chicago Harley
So it makes the same power as a 30 year old Japanese bike?
Very impressive for a Harley Davidson!
Let’s not forget this bike is nearly 20 years old now itself and no 30 year old jap bike is going to be laying down sub 10 second 1/4 mi times like this bike does. Despite have the same power. Heck even the late model jap sports bikes, very few of them can put down a sub 10 second 1/4mi time, especially without a good rider.
Ya know this dude buys a super rare awesome bike and then markets it in a video then sells it for profit.
I could be wrong but if that's the case that's an amazing way to collect bikes (which he obviously loves), Make money, and entertain people. Brilliant! Love the content
That think is amazing! I would put the labor of love back into that and get it going! To me that is a bike that's kind of like an investment but I still ride the f*** out of it!
Changing valve springs is not a big job and aftermarket springs are available from plenty of cam companies. You just need the seat and open pressures of the stock springs and they can be ordered.
Good morning Sean, much love and God bless you brother. 💙🐻
im doing some photo work for a band and the studio is literally 3 minutes down the road from you guys ! HAd no clue until recognized the roads you cruise. Id love to see the place. Daily harley rider !
The camera literally shake while idle it's sick
My wife drag races at Norwalk OH. I think i have seen 1 of these there once. I used to have an 02 vrod with small mods for 115 hp that i raced, unfortunately sold it to buy her a trailer for her drag truck. awesome stuff. ive had a lot of bikes for being only 32, vrod was my favorite and i had it the longest with no issues at all. good stuff.
I washed and rode a few Vrods when I worked at Pikes Peak Harley... I had no idea the cvo was so rare, they weren't easy to ride around our parking lot... rough clutches.
PPHD had a V-rod trike, if you'd be interested... it's stashed in back, cause the owner couldn't pay, years ago.
Never seen one quite like yours!
This video is great! I don’t even mess with Harleys but the commentary and intro was great, had me laughing man, enjoying all your videos.
I never knew those bikes had that kinda HP that's pretty impressive compared to basic vrod with out a forced air induction system
Especially with a V-Twin... 👍
Top speed isn't anything to harp about....
but a 9 second quarter mile is absolutely insane for a muscle cruiser.
It's not a cruiser. It's a drag bike. You can't "cruise" anywhere on this thing.
I will be surprised if you see a 9 second run on that bike. They are fast, but I'm not so sure the average "destroyer" will do 9's. Good luck ! Have fun !
Most of the modern litter sport bikes can get into 9's.
Yeah it should run high 9s. Pretty much any sport bike with a bit of suspension set up or a swing arm is running in the 9s. I’ve seen 600s scraping 9s and 1000s running 8s
With the wheelie bars, the slick tire, and air shifter it should be able to get into the 9’s. Most of that will come from being quick off the line and through the first 1/8th. Would be relatively slow on the big end.
Re: Modern Liter bikes can get into 9's.
Maybe so with the right rider, but the average person wont buy a new liter bike and RIP a 9sec pass.
I've seen more than a few people brag about what a magazine says their bike can do and be handed an 11 or 12 sec time slip after their trip to a dragstrip.
That "goofy triangle" is how you kickstand your dirt bikes...
I ride 125 scooters for a daily, I had a go of my mates 1290 ktm Duke so I fully understand the story of when you had a go of your mates faster bikes haha
I ride a 96ci dyna and i also hopped on my buddies superduke 1290r. You can literally hit 100mph in first gear
You need to check out the 2007 VRSCX screaming eagle street destroyer. It is the street version of the Destroyer drag bike. I have owned one for over 15 years. They only made 1400 VRSCX's so it's a pretty rare bike. :) did I mention it's stupid fast?
Are you going to swap in the harbor freight motor? 😂
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 - Watched every video possible. I have loved his content for a while.
Compressed valve springs are generally not an issue, and unless you know for sure that it wasn't started the whole time it was parked you don't even know if they sat compressed.
Everything EXPLODED in this video, including the AUDIO.
4:37 good save by the rider on the far lane
Totally disagree with that mechanic. That engine is fine, go run it. I bought a gs1100 drag bike that Haden’s been started in 20years. Took to track and it ran like a raped ape. That’s like saying your springs on your car are bad after it sits for 14years with car sitting on wheels. Springs are fine.
Right
Raped ape. 🤣
My dad and I were up at Appalachian last weekend for the demo rides. Had no idea it was your vrod sitting in the showroom 😂
Mr Beast reacted to your world's largest motor cycle on his most recent Beast reacts video
Mr Beast are a bunch of miscarriages that didn't flush. xD
Bro please put a turbo on this beast so you have realy the fastest destroyer of the world ⭐️
I’m blown away your first drag strip clip was from the drag strip in Palmer Alaska!!!!
One just sold yesterday at Mecum for $10k
7:40 when she takes off her hoodie and she has a legend of Zelda shirt
I'm waiting for h2 ninja..since a years 💔
BTW, I just got done restoring a 1985 Vmax drag bike, hopefully going to the track tonight. Built engine, nitrous (not hooked up yet), chain drive conversion, extended swing arm. It's an amazingly awesome machine. I need to add a air shifter, 2 step launch and get the nitrous setup soon. Colors are orang/black/carbon fiber, it's for CLL leukemia awareness for my wife's battle. I've wanted one since I was in HS when it came out in 1985 and was the world's fastest production bike. Here's a pic - photos.app.goo.gl/qZtFv5tAXXpzHUvA8
I love your content brother. The audio levels are all over the place on this vid
V-rod destroyer: * 165 hp *
Kawasaki: * laughs in Ninja H2R *
All this power is below 9,000 rpm. Quite a bit more torque and honestly, probably lighter as well. H2's aren't really light.
love the bike and of course uguys are the greatest.god bless you all.
The first video you used is at Alaska Raceway Park. There are 2 of those Screaming Eagles that race.😎👊🏾🌱
I knew that bike looked familiar. Walked pass it tons of times at Brian's. Never thought anything of it. But soon as I saw it on you channel, I had a feeling where it came from.
I like how the front tire is flat while hes talking it up hahaha
Hmmm would have guess the 2004 (Harley) Buell XB12S Lightning (Street Fighter)
Kind of makes sense Harley would produce a V-Rod like the Destroyer the original V-Rod engine came out their drag racing team.
I have a lot more fun going slow on my CRF250L Rally but I’m glad you like it. Get it man. Get your new rear tire and air in the front. When you say Watch THIS! I will watch. Don’t kill yourself.
7:39 i see paul mc cartney
I loved the clips of the Destroyers on the drag strip in Alaska.
2:20 that race track is 8 miles from my house 👍👍
I rode on the back fender in Top Gear Sturgis with Tanner Faust for a day we had so much fun! Not gonna let my crossbones go but I need this in my life!
I raced against one of these back in 07 on my ZX14, video on my other channel, not of the actual race tho. Just me at the track on my 14.
I dialed at 9.6 and he dialed a 9.3 and he took me within the first 120 feet and I couldn't reel him back in.
Sacramento Raceway Park, 2007 Fox Hunt
To me V-rod was coolest harley, with modern engine yet vintage design.
Don't know why they killed it.
Even in europe.
The new engine is similar
I remember seeing one of these on the showroom floor about 20 years ago. Seems like it has air powered shifting.
Umm, did you WATCH the video?? That was positively covered
The dodge demon of motorcycles
Keep being his hands and feet. Thanks for sharing his word in your videos.
I bet it feels like being superman on that bike.
You guys could rebuild that motor during downtime through the week and Sendit on the track for another race season.
It'd Make good content & fun at the dragstrip. You're only matching Tshirts away from a race team already.
Surely you could have a local bike mechanic pull the valve covers, pressurize the cylinder to hold the valves, compress and swap those springs so you can at least run a few passes before you swap that engine for a newer one. Or you could just sell that mint engine for more than the bike most likely, and use some of that cash to modernize that awesome frame.