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Objectively it is better than nothing but the system has so many points that can be easily improved: -better rewards in general (maybe throw a chant script in or somehting, give a chance for the 4.5* version at 5k points,....) -increase the pull rate to 50 or at least 25/30% -let the pity carry over to the next banner and reset it after one hits the featured character (literally the most irritating decision for me. Why doesn't it carry over?!) -Give the featured character the SA treatment right off the bat Even only one of those suggestions would satisfy me enough to shut up and properly accept the system. The way it is right now it feels like asking your employer for a well deserved raise and all they do is giving you 5 more bucks per month. Objectively it is an improvement but would that really be satisfying and good for you? I heavily doubt that.
@jrpgwow Thanks. These were so easy to come up and improve the system with :D I don't like to be negative but it's just that bad that I have to voice my concerns. I know I can't control what wfs is doing but at least I am feeling better now :D
something additional to note the pity system extends the banner so as we dont have enough info to say it wont carry over to the next exclusive banner if it will swap to the next character orrrr you pull id on the banner in 17 days Edit: on the pity system it says until the 5th march 2025
I have many problems with it: - 10% with no guarantee or fully SA is extremely stupid. - the other rewards are absolutely terrible. No Allcosmo Stars charts, not even fragments or chant scripts but instead we have high exp scrolls in there for some stupid reason. - the milestone is ridiculous with the amount of CS we usually get and it create more FOMO which is dumb because Eden is all about feeling FOMO as little as possible.
My biggest issue is that it is 10% and not stellar awakened. I am not as bothered about it because Another Eden requires a lot less dupes than most gatcha games.... but is it good? nah... it is just a bit meh
This is literally not a pity system. A pity system is a system where you are guaranteed to get a character after a certain number of pulls. Pity systems are important in gacha games because otherwise gambling addicts will gamble away their rent trying to get a character. A pity system means there's at least a limit to how much money they can lose. This is a bonus system, a way to encourage gambling addicts to gamble away their money. It just makes the game even more predatory than it already is. While it's arguably better for me personally (although this means that the optimal way to play is to save all my crystals for years before spending them) it's a terrible thing for some people who can't control their spending.
Better than nothing. But still this is one of the worst pity system I have seen in a gacha game. Especially when you consider the pity pull is non-SA. If they made it SA SA is where its at. The pity can just be not there at all imo. It's better than nothing but not by a lot. I think it's not the pity that is bad. It's SA that is making it.
The new pity system needs to get reworked, more starcharts fragments or all cosmos starchart and increase the cursed 10% encounter, the 10% is a joke and even people who spend money like me and others get shafted 90% all the time with getting the very old characters that you don't want to see with your precious money. They need to increase the 10% for sure.
I didn't understand how it worked and decided to watch your video, well better than nothing but I decided to use my stones only on PGs that I love and I have accumulated 4k stones but I still have many Quest
Honestly, i am a little upset about the pity system. However, i am playing punishing gray raven, which has (arguably) the best pity system in any gacha game. They re actually doing a synchronization right now like AE did before. I genuinely believe that AE and Pgr should learn from each other, both games has systems they are good at and systems they are bad at.
@jrpgwow Funnily enough, no. It's the only gacha game I want to try but I haven't played, but I can't play anyway because I don't have the hardware or storage and I just don't have interest because I like Kuro's previous game, Punishing Gray Raven, more.
Example if spend a shit ton of money on someone like Cerius, never get him hit pity and get him non SA.i now have to add him to my backlog of months of SA units. SA imo is the shit mechanic that ruins this pity systems as well. I understand that I won't get him SA if I pull him randomly after the banner. But then making it an external pull from the banner is awful.
I think you are reading those odds wrong. In a free pull, the first 9 pulls are ALSO 0.8%, you have an 8% chance of pulling the banner hero after 10 pulls. In a paid pull, the first 9 pulls are identical to the free, but the last one has a 10% chance, which means you have a 17.2% chance of pulling after 10 pulls. Just over double the chance of doing it with free pulls. I haven't paid a dime but I've been lucky enough to pull the majority of the recent stellar awakened banners.(Minalca, Zilva, Lingli, Sesta, Izuna) and have about 80% of 99~98 ranked characters on the altema tier list. No one is that lucky if the odds are actually 0.8%.
There's barely freebies to pull combined with fomo inducing banner and pity that enforce fomo further. I'm done playing "its better than nothing" card. I can't believe I'm saying this but even hoyo gacha is not this level of low. As for what make a good gacha? Browndust2 is my gold standard.
Who in the rite mind would ever I. A million years make an argument against a pity system in any modern gacha game, much less one without pvp. White Knights living to be oppositional. This game doesn’t even have the type of events, dailies, weeklies snd monthlies every other gacha has for summoning currency. As a D1 player I can both easily and honestly say this game has always needed both a pity system and someone .08% as intelligent as the writers, to handle the monetization model.. that way it’d be 1000 times better. They’ve always needed cheaper packs not increases on the pricing of items that are waaay to expensive tbw for what they’re offering. I 100% support throwing an amazing dev team money to stay alive, but $45usd for a 10-pull on 1% is completely nuts. If they sold 5 chants for $10 or light and shadow point packs for the same cost they’d make a killing.
I wouldn't call this a pity system at all. All they basically did was make the paid banners mechanic more accessible to everyone else. A pity is a guaranteed result after spending a given amount and in this case, it should be a character, not for a chance at one.
With how obvious it is that the new developer is cash grabbing its hard to think hes not just Milking the player base as much as he can before an end of service.
I'm totally new in this game, what the point on keep Gacha? Aren't the game only focus on story? I kinda like it, and it's not demanding to login every day
Awful pity system. I'm incredibly disappointed as I, like many others, were really excited to hear about a pity system finally being added. Wfs is starting to anger me, and it's making me worry about the direction of this game. For now, the game still has enjoyable gameplay, great music, and art, so I'm going to play the game.
I don't get it. Why people are still playing this BS gacha rate?? You know you got scammed but you still support it because you like the predecessor game
the system is pretty much a rub in the back for the giga mega ultra whales. The game is still the same. I am ok with it though since new system means new hacks for me lol. All systems in this game are free to me, well "free"
Usually I am with what you said. Objectively the startrail system gives us more free stuff. However, put into context and comparing to other systems in the market the system sucks. It'sa bad product and leaves a very bitter taste even though it is free. It just doesn't do much. Wfs just said "Here, we heard your complains and worked something out. It sucks but now shut up.", which is a shame because AE is such a great game. It feels like asking your employer for an actually deserved raise in income and they give you 5 more bucks per month. Objectively more money for the same work but effectively it does nothing.
@ I agree that it’s definitely a hard sell. The instant reaction I’ve gotten from a lot of people I’ve spoken to has been negative. I hope WFS hears players out. Curious to know what JP players think
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Like Sun Tzu once said:
"It's not a pity, but only an illusion where the game convinced you that you have a chance for pity"
Objectively it is better than nothing but the system has so many points that can be easily improved:
-better rewards in general (maybe throw a chant script in or somehting, give a chance for the 4.5* version at 5k points,....)
-increase the pull rate to 50 or at least 25/30%
-let the pity carry over to the next banner and reset it after one hits the featured character (literally the most irritating decision for me. Why doesn't it carry over?!)
-Give the featured character the SA treatment right off the bat
Even only one of those suggestions would satisfy me enough to shut up and properly accept the system.
The way it is right now it feels like asking your employer for a well deserved raise and all they do is giving you 5 more bucks per month. Objectively it is an improvement but would that really be satisfying and good for you? I heavily doubt that.
Really good suggestions. I’d say also for them to make it a bit less obvious that they want people to just spend money
@jrpgwow
Thanks. These were so easy to come up and improve the system with :D
I don't like to be negative but it's just that bad that I have to voice my concerns. I know I can't control what wfs is doing but at least I am feeling better now :D
something additional to note the pity system extends the banner so as we dont have enough info to say it wont carry over to the next exclusive banner if it will swap to the next character orrrr you pull id on the banner in 17 days
Edit: on the pity system it says until the 5th march 2025
if they can't make it guaranteed feature at least they can threw a allc- starchart or something not just allcosmos fragment in 3k points
Bro I would love more allcosmos fragments
I have many problems with it:
- 10% with no guarantee or fully SA is extremely stupid.
- the other rewards are absolutely terrible. No Allcosmo Stars charts, not even fragments or chant scripts but instead we have high exp scrolls in there for some stupid reason.
- the milestone is ridiculous with the amount of CS we usually get and it create more FOMO which is dumb because Eden is all about feeling FOMO as little as possible.
My biggest issue is that it is 10% and not stellar awakened. I am not as bothered about it because Another Eden requires a lot less dupes than most gatcha games.... but is it good? nah... it is just a bit meh
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This is literally not a pity system. A pity system is a system where you are guaranteed to get a character after a certain number of pulls. Pity systems are important in gacha games because otherwise gambling addicts will gamble away their rent trying to get a character. A pity system means there's at least a limit to how much money they can lose. This is a bonus system, a way to encourage gambling addicts to gamble away their money. It just makes the game even more predatory than it already is. While it's arguably better for me personally (although this means that the optimal way to play is to save all my crystals for years before spending them) it's a terrible thing for some people who can't control their spending.
There's a pity now? I didn't even realized 😅
Better than nothing.
But still this is one of the worst pity system I have seen in a gacha game.
Especially when you consider the pity pull is non-SA. If they made it SA
SA is where its at. The pity can just be not there at all imo. It's better than nothing but not by a lot.
I think it's not the pity that is bad. It's SA that is making it.
Please hear us WFS
Idk, with the previous system i couldn't complain but now i'm kind worried with this new one
I'm a new player, completely doesn't have a clue, and start to gacha at ID banner. Somehow i got her at 5stars LOL
The new pity system needs to get reworked, more starcharts fragments or all cosmos starchart and increase the cursed 10% encounter, the 10% is a joke and even people who spend money like me and others get shafted 90% all the time with getting the very old characters that you don't want to see with your precious money. They need to increase the 10% for sure.
I didn't understand how it worked and decided to watch your video, well better than nothing but I decided to use my stones only on PGs that I love and I have accumulated 4k stones but I still have many Quest
You pull for Id?
I tried on a secondary account but got ciel Alter lol
Liked the collab and the shadow was a good challenge AND FINALLY IT WAS A GAME IN KNOW AND LOVE
You played the super boss of the collab yet? I heard it’s nuts
@jrpgwow yeah beat it 2 hours ago was a nice fight and doable its quite usefull to have someone like flamme as and yakumo as and xianhua or mighty sa
@jrpgwow and who from the collab do you want to be playble since its likely that we get another collab unit sice we got charts for 4 chars I WANT LILA
Honestly, i am a little upset about the pity system. However, i am playing punishing gray raven, which has (arguably) the best pity system in any gacha game. They re actually doing a synchronization right now like AE did before. I genuinely believe that AE and Pgr should learn from each other, both games has systems they are good at and systems they are bad at.
You also playing WuWa?
@jrpgwow Funnily enough, no. It's the only gacha game I want to try but I haven't played, but I can't play anyway because I don't have the hardware or storage and I just don't have interest because I like Kuro's previous game, Punishing Gray Raven, more.
I play Wuwa, hella fun haha @@jrpgwow
This is just rewards for giga whale players and maybe very new lucky account 🤷♂️ you don't get enough free cs to benefit from it
It definitely rewards paid players more
Waiting for Chrono Cross get Stellar Awakening
Same
Example if spend a shit ton of money on someone like Cerius, never get him hit pity and get him non SA.i now have to add him to my backlog of months of SA units.
SA imo is the shit mechanic that ruins this pity systems as well.
I understand that I won't get him SA if I pull him randomly after the banner. But then making it an external pull from the banner is awful.
I think you are reading those odds wrong.
In a free pull, the first 9 pulls are ALSO 0.8%, you have an 8% chance of pulling the banner hero after 10 pulls.
In a paid pull, the first 9 pulls are identical to the free, but the last one has a 10% chance, which means you have a 17.2% chance of pulling after 10 pulls. Just over double the chance of doing it with free pulls.
I haven't paid a dime but I've been lucky enough to pull the majority of the recent stellar awakened banners.(Minalca, Zilva, Lingli, Sesta, Izuna) and have about 80% of 99~98 ranked characters on the altema tier list. No one is that lucky if the odds are actually 0.8%.
There's barely freebies to pull combined with fomo inducing banner and pity that enforce fomo further.
I'm done playing "its better than nothing" card. I can't believe I'm saying this but even hoyo gacha is not this level of low. As for what make a good gacha? Browndust2 is my gold standard.
Brown dust 2??? Don’t tempt me bro😂😂😂
I can help wil divorce if you're interested in the game 🤣
Who in the rite mind would ever I. A million years make an argument against a pity system in any modern gacha game, much less one without pvp. White Knights living to be oppositional. This game doesn’t even have the type of events, dailies, weeklies snd monthlies every other gacha has for summoning currency. As a D1 player I can both easily and honestly say this game has always needed both a pity system and someone .08% as intelligent as the writers, to handle the monetization model.. that way it’d be 1000 times better. They’ve always needed cheaper packs not increases on the pricing of items that are waaay to expensive tbw for what they’re offering. I 100% support throwing an amazing dev team money to stay alive, but $45usd for a 10-pull on 1% is completely nuts. If they sold 5 chants for $10 or light and shadow point packs for the same cost they’d make a killing.
got her in 3x10 pulls, good luck people
I wouldn't call this a pity system at all. All they basically did was make the paid banners mechanic more accessible to everyone else. A pity is a guaranteed result after spending a given amount and in this case, it should be a character, not for a chance at one.
With how obvious it is that the new developer is cash grabbing its hard to think hes not just
Milking the player base as much as he can before an end of service.
I'm totally new in this game, what the point on keep Gacha? Aren't the game only focus on story? I kinda like it, and it's not demanding to login every day
10% is not a pity in my eyes. A pity is when you are guaranteed to get it after spending a large amount 😭
or at least make it a 50% chance lol
they put 10xp scroll as a reward after spend 4k CS. Dev we can get that just running 1 AD LoL
I'm fine with it. better than nothing.
Similar to my thoughts: not the best, but I’ll take the freebies.
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It can be better just need some work
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Awful pity system. I'm incredibly disappointed as I, like many others, were really excited to hear about a pity system finally being added. Wfs is starting to anger me, and it's making me worry about the direction of this game. For now, the game still has enjoyable gameplay, great music, and art, so I'm going to play the game.
I think most ppl just don't care 😂😂😂
for f**king sake.. I hope the devs makes a freakin SKIP button in this game
I don't get it. Why people are still playing this BS gacha rate?? You know you got scammed but you still support it because you like the predecessor game
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I'll take a skip button over this 🤣
the system is pretty much a rub in the back for the giga mega ultra whales. The game is still the same. I am ok with it though since new system means new hacks for me lol. All systems in this game are free to me, well "free"
I Absolutely love Another Eden,but i dont like this .
Lol people complain about everything. Anyway got to take on these new bosses, can't wait for the next Mythos chapter...
I heard the last boss is absolutely insane! Way worse than Inimical.
Usually I am with what you said. Objectively the startrail system gives us more free stuff. However, put into context and comparing to other systems in the market the system sucks. It'sa bad product and leaves a very bitter taste even though it is free. It just doesn't do much.
Wfs just said "Here, we heard your complains and worked something out. It sucks but now shut up.", which is a shame because AE is such a great game.
It feels like asking your employer for an actually deserved raise in income and they give you 5 more bucks per month. Objectively more money for the same work but effectively it does nothing.
@ I agree that it’s definitely a hard sell. The instant reaction I’ve gotten from a lot of people I’ve spoken to has been negative. I hope WFS hears players out. Curious to know what JP players think