19:56 You have to remember that the Wampa cave was the first time we even saw someone lift an object with the Force. Asking him to try and use it on an ATAT feels like a modern perspective on the Jedi's powers. Yoda lifting the x-wing is treated as an epic feat in Empire
the battle of Hoth acrually does serve lukes story. In the battle, his gunner Dak dies. When they are paired up together, Dak shows his excitement to fight the empire, very much like how Luke was in a new hope. Seeing dak die effects luke by fearing for his friends deaths
@thegoldman25 id agree, if not for the fact there was a prolonged look of anguish or sadness on lukes face when dak was shot, and even when the speeder crashed he tried to save him, but the at-at (empire) force him to leave his friend behind
I think dak dying is also an early sign that Luke isn't invulnerable and that it won't be as easy for him to beat the empire this time around. His current skills and rebel ways won't be enough, so he has to go to dagobah to learn the skills to save his friends from the same fate as dak
Regarding Vader questioning if Luke is his son during the special edition, my head canon explanation is simply he just hasn’t grasped an understanding of how he could’ve had a child knowing Padme had did before she gave birth. Yes, he finds out long before in the canon comics, but that’s my take on it.
See, I have a problem with that statement, midichlorians don't contradict what Yoda said at all. They we're to explain the biological connection beings have with the force. And why some beings are more force sensitive than others...Kind of like cellular organisms like ribosomes and mitochondria THEY WEREN'T THE FORCE, I don't see what's wrong with that though
My favorite movie in the OT!! I love how dark it gets! Darth Vader turning out to be Luke's father is one of the best and greatest twists in cinematic history. And I like the special edition changes that Lucas made to the Emperor where he looks more like Palpatine and not a woman mixed with a chimp.
Honestly dude your videos are really well made and produced, I love it. I know you've said you want to branch out beyond star wars, and I get that and respect it, but at the same time I hope you continue to make star wars videos consistently because they're really well done and a delight to watch!
This is it! This is THE gold (get it?) standard for not just any given SW movie, but for any given sequel. This movie is the icon that every SW movie is held to and what every sequel is held to! And what else can be said but, there’s no denying the Force is strong with this one!
Damn, early upload as I’m in the office staring at my computer screen looking at emails, ticket request, and an upcoming teams meeting? Someone’s in a good week to bless us 😏
Bold to actually critique Empire! However, I agree that the film isn’t perfect, but it really is close to it. The film’s legacy is so big though a lot of sequels now say they’re trying to be their own Empire Strikes Back.
Empire Strikes Back is a monumental film in film history IMO. A dark middle chapter of a trilogy that does what a great sequel should do - expand the universe, deepen the lore, put main characters into difficult challenges, and ends on a cliffhanger that make you wanting more (but the pay off in RotJ is somewhat of a let down)
Only let down wit rotj is the Ewoks overstaying their welcome during the battle and Harrison ford being given a bad script and mentally checking out of the role of han
I was telling my dad Yoda said “The force is not a weapon.” Then in “Ahsoka” when Sabine offers Ezra his lightsaber he says “no the force is my weapon” I always cried. Edit : I actually saw this a few years ago at the AFI with my dad I walked out thinking “As a stand Alone film it’s one of the best movies ever made.”
19:37 Luke's co-pilot dies, his ship gets shot down, and he almost gets stepped by the Empire. This shows how much Luke can struggle in a dogfight. It's not characterization persay, moreso just dramatization, as it adds to the running theme of failure in this film. But hey, Luke is able to make the best of a bad situation when he blows up the walker.
One of the best movies ever made(#2nd best) it’s the best sequel and Star Wars movie too! It takes the the lighter toned A New Hope and shows just how evil some of the characters in this universe are. It’s truly incredible and it’s sad that a lot of people think ROTS is better 😂😂😂 Also I subscribed yesterday! I don’t know why it took so long 😂 keep up the great content man.
Facts. I can respect people's personal opinion on whether or not they simply enjoy ROTS more than TESB, but when they claim that ROTS is objectively the best movie in the saga above TESB (or any of the originals for that matter), it shows that they really don't know what they are talking about and/or have serious nostalgia and bias for the prequels, which are comically overrated nowadays.
Having recently rewatched TESB, I noticed how funny the side plot of the Falcon just constantly breaking down and needing to be repaired was pretty funny imo. Last movie, the Falcon escaped the Death Star and managed to one up Vader. This time was just a funny change I like in the movie
20:16 I'll have to disagree here. I don't think Luke should be that idealistic yet. Luke's motivation is more that he'll do anyway to protect his FRIENDS, not necessarily the rebellion. He of course believes in the cause the rebels fight for, but more personally, Han and Leia are his found family. What I'm trying to get at is Luke being driven to protect his friends has more poetic symmetry with Anakin than if we were to muddy the companion with nameless rebels. Maybe you could name the rebels and have Luke make a friendship with them before they all die, but that would add more fluff to the first act of this movie. Let's see... here's an idea how we can make Luke seem more impatient and brash. Luke's co-pilot has that one line before the battle on hoth, "I feel like I can take on the whole empire myself." Maybe you could have Luke more adamantly agree with him, to the point that they're boasting about it as they're flying around blasting kills. Then when The co-pilot dies it's like an, "oh dang" moment for Luke. Then they crash the ship, and its clear to the audience that they were getting too cocky.
In defence of Luke participating in battle of Hoth: it worked for me to trick me as viewer into thinking Luke is that all-winning hero. Sure, he was just captured by a wampa - but science then we briefly see him overcoming the difficulties (escaping wampa, then successfully fighting against empire), we (and Luke) belive that his high confedence could be right and that he could have won, only later to see how wrong was this feeling
The battle of Hoth was an important scene for the movie to demonstrate that the Empire is not just a formidable opponent but actually a major political and military force in the galaxy. Which set the scale of the challenge for all the key heroes, not just Luke, but Han and leia as well. Otherwise their wander from corner to corner is not justified.
I hate the added shot of Vader's shuttle arriving on the "Star Destroyer". Even when I was a kid it was distractingly obvious that they recycled footage from Return of the Jedi of Vader arriving on the Death Star for that
From my personal experience, having grown up with this movie, I believe the battle of Hoth is one of the best battles in the entire original trilogy. In fact, I would argue that that is one of the best in the entire franchise, aside from the prequels.
Imho, all the battles from the originals are better than the prequel battles. Sure, the battles in the prequels may look "cooler" with its use of more modern special effects (even though the overuse of CGI was and still is controversial in regards to its visual quality), but a lot of them are just either just generic but just large-scale (Main Battle of Geonosis and Coruscant), style over substance (Utapau), or just exist for action sake (Kashyyyk has no reason to be in ROTS and is not relevant in the slightest). The Battle of Naboo is the most creative main battle with the gungans vs. droids, but even then, Jar Jar is still crucial for some reason and the space battle is almost completely derived from ANH but worse, especially with how stupid it is for having Anakin not only be there at all for no reason, but be the person to singlehandedly win the space and ground battle all on accident as a 9-year old(and people call Rey the only mary-sue type character in Star Wars)😂🙄. The arena fight in AOTC was also cool, despite the stupid way Jango Fett died 😂. Each battle in the OT is unique in some way and doesn't have anything that doesn't make sense, regardless of one's personal opinion: ANH: Tantive IV boarding and the Battle of Yavin - Watching stormtroopers board the rebel blockade runner to capture Princess Leia and retrieve the Death Star plans then absolute massacre the rebel navy troops is an amazing introduction to the franchise. The Battle of Yavin, while simple in concept, keeps the suspense running with how the Empire slowly takes out each fighter one-by-one. That tension increases when Darth Vader joins the battle and Luke is eventually the last pilot. Watching the rebel pilots give orders to one another and use tactics is also cool. TESB: The Battle of Hoth - A great showcase of the amount of power both sides can give off. Even then, instead of being just a generic large scale battle where 2 side just duke it out to see which side dies first, it's a defense against impossible odds as the rebels try to hold out as long as possible so their transports can escape while the Empire slowly breaks them with their overpowering strength. Even Luke gets shot down and has to use unorthodox methods to take out an AT-AT. ROTJ: Sail Barge Assault and the Battle of Endor - The Battle on Jabba's sail barge showed how heroes can fight against a gangster army. Watching Luke fight Jabba's alien gang is awesome, while still showcasing Luke's imperfections. Say what you will about Boba's defeat, but it still makes more sense than how Jango died. The Battle of Endor is easily the best battle in the franchise. Say what you will about the ewoks, but in a franchise where a 9-year old can blow up a droid control ship without somehow dying and that a 2 ft tall green goblin can go up against sith lords, I can easily buy that small, but strong primative alien creatures can get the jump on and put up a solid fight against stormtroopers on their own turf, even if they would have lost if Chewbacca didn't hijack an AT-ST. The primitive methods used by the ewoks against the walkers and speeder bikes was both cool and fun, but most importantly, unique. The space battle is easily the best in the franchise, having both imperial and rebel fleets duke in out after the rebels realize that they were lured into a trap by the emperor. Watching the incomplete Death Star's functionality be revealed by the Emperor and seeing Lando take charge and use his own strategies to take on the Star Destroyers showed just how far he has come as a character. The chase through the Death Star's incomplete structure to the reactor and back out as the station explodes is very exhilarating and the effects still very much hold up and look better than many things in the prequels and modern movies. Top it off with both the best sequence and best lightsaber duel in the franchise with everything in the throne room and the 3 characters involved, and you have the peak Star Wars battle and final act. The fantastic speeder bike chase earlier in the movie also deserves a mention. The sound design alone for the speeder bikes is peak.
@ found somebody selling them on Etsy.... I found 4K 77 and 4K 83 on eBay a while back. I'm not that savvy with computers so I'm glad to have found some hardcopies The folks selling them need to be careful Disney don't play lol
@ I found a copy on Etsy. I found 4K 77 and 4K 83 on eBay a while back. I'm not computer savvy enough to find the files and burn them so I am glad to have found hardcopies of all three.
Goldman I know this might not go along with the video but I loved when you made the intro to the video "The Siege of Mandalore 3 years later" and put the part of ladies Gentlemen and Gamers and you showed in the order of Ladies Gentlemen and Gamers you did Ahsoka Kenobi and Maul so imagine for your next vid which I don't know but lets say its return of the Jedi you do Ladies and show Leia Gentleman and show Han or Luke and Gamers you show Lando or Boba but hey that's just me still I Love your videos keep it up and don't change at all your to me the best RUclips movie/series reviewer!
@@thegoldman25 Yeah that and the song you told me about was my favorite part of that video also thanks for replying. Can't wait for your stream Sunday and have a Merry Christmas!
wow thank you for the hearts goldman I can't wait for your next vid and also are you going to do a Revenge of the Stith 20 Years later I know you made a video on ROTS like a year ago but meh hey 20 years later I want to say is a big number anyways thanks for replying and hearting my comments and have a great rest of your week.
Really enjoying your analysis. I like your point about the battle of Hoth and how it would've been better if Luke had tried to use the force and fails because he feels an AT-AT is too big and powerful. So then he resorts to just using a grenade. I never thought of that. However, I would disagree on two points: Luke didn't just happen to land near where Yoda lives. Yoda took over control of the X-wing and guided it where it safely crash landed. This is insinuated when Luke says, "all the scopes are dead; I can't see a thing'. I think Luke is being evasive when he answers Yoda's question about becoming a Jedi. At this point Luke is still dismissive about Yoda and doesn't value him yet, so he gives a sort of flippant, uncaring answer. You are bang on about Han & Vader: they were both never better than they were in Empire. We like Leia in this movie because she's more personal. We already know from ANH she is a powerful leader. Her character grows in Empire because it shows she is a woman struggling with her personal feelings while dealing with a strong antagonist. We can see her frustration and how she is trying to work her way through it. Great vids!
I can't believe you didn't give us spoiler warnings for The Empire Strikes Back! Disney hasn't even announced this movie yet, but you revealed the whole plot.
Vader is a complete serial killer in this movie. Utterly ruthlessly terrifying. He seems completely inhuman, making his revelation at the end even more disturbing. Is he even human, let alone Luke’s father
I'm glad this movie was altered the least. I was genuinely excited when I saw ESB in the theater in 1997. Some of the changes were real head scratchers though. The line "you were lucky to get out of there" that was added to R2 in Dagonah is as baffling to me today as it was in 97. I didn't really need to see Vader travel to the Executor either. The Emperor hologram scene wasn't changed until the DVD release. For continuity, i get why the Emperor was changed, but the added daligue of "How is that possible?" made zero sense to me since the opening crawl literally tells us he's looking for him. He also tells Admeral Ozzel "I'm sure Skywalker with them. Idk, I really wish I could sit down with Georgie-boy and go through all of the changes to the trilogy lol. These days, if I'm in a Star Wars-ey mood, I will watch the Project 4k movies. I have no desire to see the special editions again. I just wish Disney would allow everyone to see the original movies.
“BRING MY SHUTTLE” 😡 (Fr tho, for the longest time growing up with the 2011 Blu Ray version, I never knew that line was changed til I randomly saw the original cut of that scene on TikTok of all places)
Imagine Lucas as just a showrunner on the prequels, or the sequels. Imagine how powerful Star Wars would be if he let other directors handle the shots, while he handled the big picture. Lucas is one of the best in the business at overarching narrative and world building, all 3 trilogies show this.
@thegoldman25 that would have been dope. Although, I actually like the direction of that film. Its my favorite of the prequels. I saw it when I was nearly 8
Agreed with you on the added lines from Palpatine. Love the change to Ian but the additional stuff is lame lol Disagree with your take on Luke’s role/character arc in the Hoth battle. The Hoth battle is the climatic end of the 1st act of the film. In this act, we see so much of Luke’s progress. He nearly dies from the Wampa. But we see how he is grown with the force and lightsaber. But even with his new power he still needs much help from his friends. Setting the stage for some of the best scenes in all of Star Wars. He does lose Dak during the battle scene. Which shows not everyone around him is safe. But even with that we see again, while flawed, he is still a force to be reckoned with by taking out the AT AT single handedly. It makes for his duel with Vader more climatic because he’s not completely incapable of holding his own. He shows a vast amount of tricks up his sleeves that definitely show up during the fight. I literally think this film is perfect, And that 1st act, imo does all the leg work to make it so. But anyway, great video as always Goldman!
I disagree with your view that the Battle of Hoth doesn’t also relate to Luke’s character arch. The last scene we see of Luke in a starship in battle was when he officially became a hero of the Galaxy by blowing up the Death Star. During this battle, going along with the theme of failure, he is shot down (first his rear gunner, then his ship). Sure, he blows up 1 AT-AT with a bomb, but there are still at least 3 AT-AT’s left to wipe out and drive the rest of the rebellion land forces to retreat as well as everyone on in Echo Base.
@thegoldman25 can you please Google the subject. There are a myriad of articles covering this fact . Nothing and i repeat Nothing george did was original. And most of it was stolen from dune . Please look and be amazed
Yes, GL & his teams were/are better at storytelling through the screen than the current corporate cronies at Didnay. We all know it, but now it's HIGH TIME to move on. 🙂 Plenty of other stories out there. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
Lucas did make the movie for profits. He showed Kershner plans for Skywalker Ranch and said that was the reason why he was making the film and why it had to be a success. There was also never a "vision". Plot changed extensively during scripting. At one point Luke even talked to the ghost of Anakin! All this vision stuff is crap cooked up over the years by Lucas in order to make himself seem like this all seeing all knowing prophet and genius. He's not. All he wanted to do was to make a Flash Gordon movie and to become a millionaire before he was 30 years old. Lucas said so to his father when he tried to prevent him from going into the movie business, because he didn't see any future prospects in it. If Lucas has any gift it's in running a business, not in actually making movies themselves.
2:23: that's it? nothing on the story or characters? what a reach. and also, does it sound strange how people got angry over luke and leia turning out to be twins just because they wanted them to get together? k also have a theory: that he didn't plan the prequels until during the production of empire strikes back
For your vid on Return of the Jedi, consider including these words of wisdom from Sam Witwer: ruclips.net/video/aJTsQEoIcvA/видео.htmlsi=Va8HtyqXfQlVvPhf
19:55 the force doesnt allow you to lift AT AT walkers, at least not in the movies where its a subtle energy force instead of a video game power like the prequels/d+ shows. As a whole this movie blows anything else away from this franchise in almost any metric possible. Even watching the ugly lucas cgi versions, its still a near perfect movie for its time.
What if, there was no ESB, and there was just New hope AND Return of the Jedi...that would have killed SW, Jedi is just a lousy remake. I think we are here in this dismal SW future because of Empire, it was mixed blessing.
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19:56 You have to remember that the Wampa cave was the first time we even saw someone lift an object with the Force. Asking him to try and use it on an ATAT feels like a modern perspective on the Jedi's powers. Yoda lifting the x-wing is treated as an epic feat in Empire
fair
the battle of Hoth acrually does serve lukes story. In the battle, his gunner Dak dies. When they are paired up together, Dak shows his excitement to fight the empire, very much like how Luke was in a new hope. Seeing dak die effects luke by fearing for his friends deaths
i guess, that seems like a loose connection to me
@thegoldman25 id agree, if not for the fact there was a prolonged look of anguish or sadness on lukes face when dak was shot, and even when the speeder crashed he tried to save him, but the at-at (empire) force him to leave his friend behind
Dak is Luke from the first film. Luke sees himself, responding “I know what you mean” when Dan says he could take on the whole empire.
I think dak dying is also an early sign that Luke isn't invulnerable and that it won't be as easy for him to beat the empire this time around. His current skills and rebel ways won't be enough, so he has to go to dagobah to learn the skills to save his friends from the same fate as dak
Regarding Vader questioning if Luke is his son during the special edition, my head canon explanation is simply he just hasn’t grasped an understanding of how he could’ve had a child knowing Padme had did before she gave birth. Yes, he finds out long before in the canon comics, but that’s my take on it.
Also Yoda's explanation of the force is far more interesting than the whole midichlorian concept from the prequels.
Fortunately they don't go against one another! YAYYYY
You gonna make Prequel Marks angry with that comment
Spelling is hard
See, I have a problem with that statement, midichlorians don't contradict what Yoda said at all.
They we're to explain the biological connection beings have with the force.
And why some beings are more force sensitive than others...Kind of like cellular organisms like ribosomes and mitochondria
THEY WEREN'T THE FORCE, I don't see what's wrong with that though
@@SCARLETTSPIDER777They’re just a boring concept
My favorite movie in the OT!! I love how dark it gets! Darth Vader turning out to be Luke's father is one of the best and greatest twists in cinematic history. And I like the special edition changes that Lucas made to the Emperor where he looks more like Palpatine and not a woman mixed with a chimp.
It's easily the best movie in the saga, bar none.
This movie has some of the most iconic quotes in all of cinema
The dialogue in this movie is top tier
Not as iconic as "somehow Palpatine returns," god damn masterpiece.
might be THE most iconic, along with “say hello to my little friend!”
Honestly dude your videos are really well made and produced, I love it. I know you've said you want to branch out beyond star wars, and I get that and respect it, but at the same time I hope you continue to make star wars videos consistently because they're really well done and a delight to watch!
Star Wars will always be in my heart. I'll cover other things, but every new movie and show will be covered.
The best star wars movie and one of my favorite films of all time
This is it! This is THE gold (get it?) standard for not just any given SW movie, but for any given sequel. This movie is the icon that every SW movie is held to and what every sequel is held to! And what else can be said but, there’s no denying the Force is strong with this one!
I like your puns
Damn, early upload as I’m in the office staring at my computer screen looking at emails, ticket request, and an upcoming teams meeting?
Someone’s in a good week to bless us 😏
Enjoy!
Bold to actually critique Empire! However, I agree that the film isn’t perfect, but it really is close to it. The film’s legacy is so big though a lot of sequels now say they’re trying to be their own Empire Strikes Back.
Empire Strikes Back is a monumental film in film history IMO. A dark middle chapter of a trilogy that does what a great sequel should do - expand the universe, deepen the lore, put main characters into difficult challenges, and ends on a cliffhanger that make you wanting more (but the pay off in RotJ is somewhat of a let down)
I wouldn’t call rotj a letdown but I don’t like how leia and Han are sidelined
Only let down wit rotj is the Ewoks overstaying their welcome during the battle and Harrison ford being given a bad script and mentally checking out of the role of han
I always thought Dak died because of At-At fire. I realized recently he electrocuted himself by cutting into the auxiliary power.
You should make a video on the first pirates of the Caribbean movie.
Oh yes that would be interesting
I could have interest in covering the original trilogy
@@thegoldman25 you should do inception too. That is my favorite film of all time
I was telling my dad Yoda said “The force is not a weapon.” Then in “Ahsoka” when Sabine offers Ezra his lightsaber he says “no the force is my weapon” I always cried.
Edit : I actually saw this a few years ago at the AFI with my dad I walked out thinking “As a stand Alone film it’s one of the best movies ever made.”
I believe Ezra says "the force is my ally"
19:37
Luke's co-pilot dies, his ship gets shot down, and he almost gets stepped by the Empire.
This shows how much Luke can struggle in a dogfight.
It's not characterization persay, moreso just dramatization, as it adds to the running theme of failure in this film.
But hey, Luke is able to make the best of a bad situation when he blows up the walker.
fair point
With all these production issues, it’s kind of a miracle these films are not only watchable but borderline masterpieces
Star Wars is a miracle for sure
Always been my favourite Star Wars film, even as a prequels kid I for some reason get the most nostalgia for this one
One of the best movies of all time!
One of the best movies ever made(#2nd best) it’s the best sequel and Star Wars movie too! It takes the the lighter toned A New Hope and shows just how evil some of the characters in this universe are. It’s truly incredible and it’s sad that a lot of people think ROTS is better 😂😂😂 Also I subscribed yesterday! I don’t know why it took so long 😂 keep up the great content man.
Thanks for tuning back in Brickin. I've noted you comment on a lot of my videos, I apprecaite the continued support
What’s the best?
Facts. I can respect people's personal opinion on whether or not they simply enjoy ROTS more than TESB, but when they claim that ROTS is objectively the best movie in the saga above TESB (or any of the originals for that matter), it shows that they really don't know what they are talking about and/or have serious nostalgia and bias for the prequels, which are comically overrated nowadays.
@@Sehon13Ultd Into the Spider-verse imo
The empire strikes back is my favorite movie😍
It's my 2nd favorite!
Having recently rewatched TESB, I noticed how funny the side plot of the Falcon just constantly breaking down and needing to be repaired was pretty funny imo.
Last movie, the Falcon escaped the Death Star and managed to one up Vader. This time was just a funny change I like in the movie
20:16 I'll have to disagree here. I don't think Luke should be that idealistic yet. Luke's motivation is more that he'll do anyway to protect his FRIENDS, not necessarily the rebellion. He of course believes in the cause the rebels fight for, but more personally, Han and Leia are his found family.
What I'm trying to get at is Luke being driven to protect his friends has more poetic symmetry with Anakin than if we were to muddy the companion with nameless rebels.
Maybe you could name the rebels and have Luke make a friendship with them before they all die, but that would add more fluff to the first act of this movie.
Let's see... here's an idea how we can make Luke seem more impatient and brash.
Luke's co-pilot has that one line before the battle on hoth, "I feel like I can take on the whole empire myself."
Maybe you could have Luke more adamantly agree with him, to the point that they're boasting about it as they're flying around blasting kills. Then when The co-pilot dies it's like an, "oh dang" moment for Luke. Then they crash the ship, and its clear to the audience that they were getting too cocky.
great point
C-3PO is a gold man
my old ex gf used to call 3PO "The Gold Man"
In defence of Luke participating in battle of Hoth: it worked for me to trick me as viewer into thinking Luke is that all-winning hero. Sure, he was just captured by a wampa - but science then we briefly see him overcoming the difficulties (escaping wampa, then successfully fighting against empire), we (and Luke) belive that his high confedence could be right and that he could have won, only later to see how wrong was this feeling
The battle of Hoth was an important scene for the movie to demonstrate that the Empire is not just a formidable opponent but actually a major political and military force in the galaxy. Which set the scale of the challenge for all the key heroes, not just Luke, but Han and leia as well. Otherwise their wander from corner to corner is not justified.
I'm not saying the battle wasn't important, I just wish it tied a bit more into the personal arcs
I hate the added shot of Vader's shuttle arriving on the "Star Destroyer". Even when I was a kid it was distractingly obvious that they recycled footage from Return of the Jedi of Vader arriving on the Death Star for that
it is 100% recycled footage from RotJ. They just changed what it looked like outside the hanger
From my personal experience, having grown up with this movie, I believe the battle of Hoth is one of the best battles in the entire original trilogy. In fact, I would argue that that is one of the best in the entire franchise, aside from the prequels.
it's way better than the prequels
Imho, all the battles from the originals are better than the prequel battles. Sure, the battles in the prequels may look "cooler" with its use of more modern special effects (even though the overuse of CGI was and still is controversial in regards to its visual quality), but a lot of them are just either just generic but just large-scale (Main Battle of Geonosis and Coruscant), style over substance (Utapau), or just exist for action sake (Kashyyyk has no reason to be in ROTS and is not relevant in the slightest). The Battle of Naboo is the most creative main battle with the gungans vs. droids, but even then, Jar Jar is still crucial for some reason and the space battle is almost completely derived from ANH but worse, especially with how stupid it is for having Anakin not only be there at all for no reason, but be the person to singlehandedly win the space and ground battle all on accident as a 9-year old(and people call Rey the only mary-sue type character in Star Wars)😂🙄. The arena fight in AOTC was also cool, despite the stupid way Jango Fett died 😂.
Each battle in the OT is unique in some way and doesn't have anything that doesn't make sense, regardless of one's personal opinion:
ANH: Tantive IV boarding and the Battle of Yavin - Watching stormtroopers board the rebel blockade runner to capture Princess Leia and retrieve the Death Star plans then absolute massacre the rebel navy troops is an amazing introduction to the franchise. The Battle of Yavin, while simple in concept, keeps the suspense running with how the Empire slowly takes out each fighter one-by-one. That tension increases when Darth Vader joins the battle and Luke is eventually the last pilot. Watching the rebel pilots give orders to one another and use tactics is also cool.
TESB: The Battle of Hoth - A great showcase of the amount of power both sides can give off. Even then, instead of being just a generic large scale battle where 2 side just duke it out to see which side dies first, it's a defense against impossible odds as the rebels try to hold out as long as possible so their transports can escape while the Empire slowly breaks them with their overpowering strength. Even Luke gets shot down and has to use unorthodox methods to take out an AT-AT.
ROTJ: Sail Barge Assault and the Battle of Endor - The Battle on Jabba's sail barge showed how heroes can fight against a gangster army. Watching Luke fight Jabba's alien gang is awesome, while still showcasing Luke's imperfections. Say what you will about Boba's defeat, but it still makes more sense than how Jango died. The Battle of Endor is easily the best battle in the franchise. Say what you will about the ewoks, but in a franchise where a 9-year old can blow up a droid control ship without somehow dying and that a 2 ft tall green goblin can go up against sith lords, I can easily buy that small, but strong primative alien creatures can get the jump on and put up a solid fight against stormtroopers on their own turf, even if they would have lost if Chewbacca didn't hijack an AT-ST. The primitive methods used by the ewoks against the walkers and speeder bikes was both cool and fun, but most importantly, unique. The space battle is easily the best in the franchise, having both imperial and rebel fleets duke in out after the rebels realize that they were lured into a trap by the emperor. Watching the incomplete Death Star's functionality be revealed by the Emperor and seeing Lando take charge and use his own strategies to take on the Star Destroyers showed just how far he has come as a character. The chase through the Death Star's incomplete structure to the reactor and back out as the station explodes is very exhilarating and the effects still very much hold up and look better than many things in the prequels and modern movies. Top it off with both the best sequence and best lightsaber duel in the franchise with everything in the throne room and the 3 characters involved, and you have the peak Star Wars battle and final act. The fantastic speeder bike chase earlier in the movie also deserves a mention. The sound design alone for the speeder bikes is peak.
that shot of the Skywalker ranch under construction tells you all you need to know about how Star Wars lost its way
Got my 4K80 version on the way 😊
how did you get it?
@ found somebody selling them on Etsy.... I found 4K 77 and 4K 83 on eBay a while back. I'm not that savvy with computers so I'm glad to have found some hardcopies The folks selling them need to be careful Disney don't play lol
@ I found a copy on Etsy. I found 4K 77 and 4K 83 on eBay a while back. I'm not computer savvy enough to find the files and burn them so I am glad to have found hardcopies of all three.
Liked and subbed, great content!
Goldman I know this might not go along with the video but I loved when you made the intro to the video "The Siege of Mandalore 3 years later" and put the part of ladies Gentlemen and Gamers and you showed in the order of Ladies Gentlemen and Gamers you did Ahsoka Kenobi and Maul so imagine for your next vid which I don't know but lets say its return of the Jedi you do Ladies and show Leia Gentleman and show Han or Luke and Gamers you show Lando or Boba but hey that's just me still I Love your videos keep it up and don't change at all your to me the best RUclips movie/series reviewer!
Thanks for the love, I appreciate that! I'm glad you remembered that part of my siege of mandalore vid
@@thegoldman25 Yeah that and the song you told me about was my favorite part of that video also thanks for replying. Can't wait for your stream Sunday and have a Merry Christmas!
wow thank you for the hearts goldman I can't wait for your next vid and also are you going to do a Revenge of the Stith 20 Years later I know you made a video on ROTS like a year ago but meh hey 20 years later I want to say is a big number anyways thanks for replying and hearting my comments and have a great rest of your week.
Really enjoying your analysis. I like your point about the battle of Hoth and how it would've been better if Luke had tried to use the force and fails because he feels an AT-AT is too big and powerful. So then he resorts to just using a grenade. I never thought of that. However, I would disagree on two points: Luke didn't just happen to land near where Yoda lives. Yoda took over control of the X-wing and guided it where it safely crash landed. This is insinuated when Luke says, "all the scopes are dead; I can't see a thing'. I think Luke is being evasive when he answers Yoda's question about becoming a Jedi. At this point Luke is still dismissive about Yoda and doesn't value him yet, so he gives a sort of flippant, uncaring answer. You are bang on about Han & Vader: they were both never better than they were in Empire. We like Leia in this movie because she's more personal. We already know from ANH she is a powerful leader. Her character grows in Empire because it shows she is a woman struggling with her personal feelings while dealing with a strong antagonist. We can see her frustration and how she is trying to work her way through it. Great vids!
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback, and I'm glad you enjoyed the analysis!
I can't believe you didn't give us spoiler warnings for The Empire Strikes Back! Disney hasn't even announced this movie yet, but you revealed the whole plot.
It’s been 45 years !!!!😮
The greatest movie of all time
it's my 2nd favorite movie ever
@ hell ya man, incredible video by the way! Can’t wait for ROTJ!
looking to release it monday or tuesday of next week
Nice video as always my dude!
Thanks! And yes I will do a skeleton crew video when the season is done. So sometime around the mid to end of january
Welp, telling my boss again I be back in 40
haahah enjoy!
OGs>Prequels.
Agreed
Straight facts. People who claim otherwise are factually wrong 😅.
To be fair the prequels are simply average Dune Ripp Off
Vader is a complete serial killer in this movie. Utterly ruthlessly terrifying. He seems completely inhuman, making his revelation at the end even more disturbing. Is he even human, let alone Luke’s father
Vader gets shit done.. lol I love that haha.
he does get shit done haha
I'm glad this movie was altered the least. I was genuinely excited when I saw ESB in the theater in 1997. Some of the changes were real head scratchers though. The line "you were lucky to get out of there" that was added to R2 in Dagonah is as baffling to me today as it was in 97. I didn't really need to see Vader travel to the Executor either. The Emperor hologram scene wasn't changed until the DVD release. For continuity, i get why the Emperor was changed, but the added daligue of "How is that possible?" made zero sense to me since the opening crawl literally tells us he's looking for him. He also tells Admeral Ozzel "I'm sure Skywalker with them. Idk, I really wish I could sit down with Georgie-boy and go through all of the changes to the trilogy lol. These days, if I'm in a Star Wars-ey mood, I will watch the Project 4k movies. I have no desire to see the special editions again. I just wish Disney would allow everyone to see the original movies.
Only thing missing is a space battle in ESB.
not every SW movie needs a space battle
The asteroid field chase scene was more than enough for me!!
“BRING MY SHUTTLE” 😡 (Fr tho, for the longest time growing up with the 2011 Blu Ray version, I never knew that line was changed til I randomly saw the original cut of that scene on TikTok of all places)
Imagine Lucas as just a showrunner on the prequels, or the sequels. Imagine how powerful Star Wars would be if he let other directors handle the shots, while he handled the big picture. Lucas is one of the best in the business at overarching narrative and world building, all 3 trilogies show this.
he wanted spielberg to direct the phantom menace
@thegoldman25 that would have been dope. Although, I actually like the direction of that film. Its my favorite of the prequels. I saw it when I was nearly 8
If Lucas wasn't involved w the OT I don't know if we are even talking about SW 50yrs later.
Can u imagine Disney in charge of Return of the Jed????
i won't imagine that
Agreed with you on the added lines from Palpatine. Love the change to Ian but the additional stuff is lame lol
Disagree with your take on Luke’s role/character arc in the Hoth battle. The Hoth battle is the climatic end of the 1st act of the film. In this act, we see so much of Luke’s progress. He nearly dies from the Wampa. But we see how he is grown with the force and lightsaber. But even with his new power he still needs much help from his friends. Setting the stage for some of the best scenes in all of Star Wars. He does lose Dak during the battle scene. Which shows not everyone around him is safe. But even with that we see again, while flawed, he is still a force to be reckoned with by taking out the AT AT single handedly. It makes for his duel with Vader more climatic because he’s not completely incapable of holding his own. He shows a vast amount of tricks up his sleeves that definitely show up during the fight. I literally think this film is perfect, And that 1st act, imo does all the leg work to make it so.
But anyway, great video as always Goldman!
im not a big fan of puppet yoda and the glance in vaders helmet but cloud city is my second favourite location after naboo
Puppet Yoda adds to the charm
Better than CGI Yoda honestly
Dude, CGI Yoda sucks.
CGI yoda looked terrible
i love puppet yoda
I disagree with your view that the Battle of Hoth doesn’t also relate to Luke’s character arch. The last scene we see of Luke in a starship in battle was when he officially became a hero of the Galaxy by blowing up the Death Star. During this battle, going along with the theme of failure, he is shot down (first his rear gunner, then his ship). Sure, he blows up 1 AT-AT with a bomb, but there are still at least 3 AT-AT’s left to wipe out and drive the rest of the rebellion land forces to retreat as well as everyone on in Echo Base.
good timing lad jus sparked a spliff
spliff?
I don’t know about you, but I want my sequel to be a musical. 😉👍
The Force is with Gold’s hair.
It is 44 years not 45 years, you are a year too early
44 years and 7 months, I rounded up
Look, i love Star Wars, too, but it's time we face facts every good idea in Star Wars has roots deep roots in Dune .
i don't agree
@thegoldman25 can you please Google the subject. There are a myriad of articles covering this fact . Nothing and i repeat Nothing george did was original. And most of it was stolen from dune . Please look and be amazed
@thegoldman25 please look at the mirad of articles on this
@@warrentalbot329 bro why are u so obsessed with dune just stop
@ZayTh3God please refer to comment above and be amazed
34:20 the original quote was so much better 😂 why the change!
Wouldn’t that be 44 years ago?
44 years and 7 months, I rounded up
Goul is wild
1980 emporer is a ghoul
Yes, GL & his teams were/are better at storytelling through the screen than the current corporate cronies at Didnay. We all know it, but now it's HIGH TIME to move on. 🙂 Plenty of other stories out there.
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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--Diamond Dragons (series)
i will never move on
Hey respect the Leia of this movie ! Here she is able to spend 30 minutes whitout getting kidnapped. For her it's great.
It's a classic. Nothing else could really live up to it as a sequel
i cant remember i mean the hoth part was just so long and dumb that i just gave up
Lucas did make the movie for profits. He showed Kershner plans for Skywalker Ranch and said that was the reason why he was making the film and why it had to be a success. There was also never a "vision". Plot changed extensively during scripting. At one point Luke even talked to the ghost of Anakin! All this vision stuff is crap cooked up over the years by Lucas in order to make himself seem like this all seeing all knowing prophet and genius. He's not. All he wanted to do was to make a Flash Gordon movie and to become a millionaire before he was 30 years old. Lucas said so to his father when he tried to prevent him from going into the movie business, because he didn't see any future prospects in it. If Lucas has any gift it's in running a business, not in actually making movies themselves.
both can be true. He can be a great businessman but also tell stories for the love he has for them
2:23: that's it? nothing on the story or characters? what a reach.
and also, does it sound strange how people got angry over luke and leia turning out to be twins just because they wanted them to get together? k also have a theory: that he didn't plan the prequels until during the production of empire strikes back
7:08 ironic considering what happend with force awakens. Money hungry company buy the rights, makes a bad copy of what worked
For your vid on Return of the Jedi, consider including these words of wisdom from Sam Witwer: ruclips.net/video/aJTsQEoIcvA/видео.htmlsi=Va8HtyqXfQlVvPhf
Even the big twist was stolen from Dune .
how so?
@@thegoldman25 star wars : i am your father...dune : i am your grandfather. See the resemblance now gold ?
@@thegoldman25 stat wars ..i am your father . Dune ...i am your grandfather
But who is my mother ?
@darylsdog9521 princess Leia or princess Alia take your pick
19:55 the force doesnt allow you to lift AT AT walkers, at least not in the movies where its a subtle energy force instead of a video game power like the prequels/d+ shows. As a whole this movie blows anything else away from this franchise in almost any metric possible. Even watching the ugly lucas cgi versions, its still a near perfect movie for its time.
This comment is just for the algorithm
I appreciate that! thank you!
what do you think about 2001 a space Odyssey just asking
What if, there was no ESB, and there was just New hope AND Return of the Jedi...that would have killed SW, Jedi is just a lousy remake. I think we are here in this dismal SW future because of Empire, it was mixed blessing.
After 45 years, The Empire Strikes Back has not aged and continues to age poorly like prequels have been for me.
none of the original films have aged for me at all
Enjoyed the vid till you fan fictioned the battle of hoth. Horrible take.
how so?
Just sat down to eat food, what a service you provide sir🫡
Enjoy!