I like that you used "regular" tools rather than the fancy pants computer thing. I am trying to teach myself to rebuild a starter and this definitely will help when i put it back together
Thank you thank you for sharing I'm grateful for the knowledge of learning and I have a starter apart right now it spins but it doesn't engage but now I think it's something else thank you your video was excellent and very helpful
Excellent video for a walk through, I got to the internal electrical test and my voltage dropped from 12 down to 5 volts, is this a sign of a faulty starter? All other tests passed
One more test to tell if a starter is good or bad. That is a resistance test while under load. You can take an ohms reading or resistance test on a starter with no load through it and it could check out just fine but if you put a load to it and then test for resistance he could tell a different story altogether.
What about older Ford/AMC/Jeep starters with separate solenoid? Should run by grounding the case and touching hot to the terminal lug on the starter, correct?
85 dodge d150 just clicks when turn key, hook remote starter switch to s terminal on starter and poitive battery cable with key in on postion and press remote starter fires right up
Hi, where could be a problem, if starter rotates, but pinion doesn't push out? Starter is new. I changed it, because of this problem. It hapenned on my last ride before winter time. When I was running on highway, engine stall suddenly. So I glided to the highway exit and put cas aside and tried to start engine, but it didn't. Only starter was moving. We towed to my garage and there I noticed, that starter didn't move with crankshaft. I tried to change starter relay, but it didn't help.
Resistance test is not the best to check starter circuit integrity. I would recommend to check voltage drop when starter still on a vehicle. Coils could be shorted but resistance might be okay, at least you can check coil continuity for open.
My starter passes all the tests, but when it's cold and I connect (only) the solenoid terminal, the pinion spins a little (and slow). It shouldn't right?
I have the same problem for that particular test but on normal weather condition 20 degrees celsius. Do you know what does it mean? Spin speed increases slowly
Thank you so much my friend, very good video, easy to understand, you are professional my friend. By the way, do you have a video how to bench test a ignition failure sensor/ignition control module, 4 pins, for a 2001 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.4 liter, thank you and God blessed you...
If my motor always spins but is slow, especially when engine is hot, will this show up with the windings test. Not sure what the ohms reading should be?
Hey Tom. It could be three main reasons why starter spins slowly: 1) brushesh wearing out; 1) poor connection at the main starter cable; 3) increased internal resistance of the starter.
@@PistonShack thanks piston shack. I've cleaned all the cable connections. I'll do your tests before ordering a renovated motor. I can't find a new one for my '81 Ford Capri 😭
Quick question. Car wouldn’t start on Sunday, after having driven it 5 min prior to the current problem. Turned key, nothing. Checked battery, it is still good. So, replaced starter. Still nothing. Replaced ignition actuator pin as I found it was broken. Still, nothing. Towed car to our house and it sat overnight. Came home from work last night, and went to work on it but decided to try and start, and it started right away with zero issue. Turned off several more times to test it and started each time without issue. This morning, went into the garage and it is not starting again. No clue what is going on!! Any ideas? Ty so much in advance. It is a 2001 Wrangler Sport, BTW.
@@sergiokirienko2622 Ended up being the starter. When I replaced it, the internal components must have been stuck. Tapped it with a mallet and it began working and has given me no issues since.
@@PistonShack I realized that that everything was working fine and since it was a 24V battery, one of it(the battery) had a charge voltage of 10.50V and the other had 12.45v and as I was jump starting I did the mistake of joining both batteries in series instead of just jumping starting the one with the 10.50V. This is when its already mount to the gearbox casing (on load test) Anyways your content was really helpful
Why if bench test ford ranger starter, it not stay ingauge if i keep small wire on pin. It uningage with start small wire on start point. It must only uningage only when i take of start thin wire, am i right or wrong? Rrrrrealy hope someone can help me. Thanks guys.
It's funny. I watch this video but don't know if it's a bad video because I cannot see then before I comment youtube tells me to be respectfull and civilised. What world am I living in
Could anyone help a brother out... I changed a starter motor and it spins real real slow.. It pops out and spins/ runs fine out the car on bench test.. So I bypassed the cables using jump leads straight to starter... And when it's fitted back in car it only makes the click where the spindle pops out but it doesn't spin when in the car. The positive lead heats up when this happens at the positive starter connection bolt. 2 months and still no further forward. 😭 Not sure why it works fine out the car on bench, but using exact same jump lead connections when fitted in car it just doesn't spin the crank. Driving me insane.
Hey Craig! Well, I would do 1) voltage drop test at the starter when circuit as loaded (cranking position) then compare voltage at the battery while cranking with voltage at the starter main stud and eyelet; 2) check ground voltage at the started, should be not more then 100-300 mV; 3) check battery posts connections on both ends and cables integrity; 4)connect battery charger, set to engine start mode to verify the issue; 5) replace starter relay. Let me know how everything is going.
@@PistonShackhi I got there in the end a couple days ago... Turned out the AC compressor pump was stuck fast and not rotating, so the belt wasnt spinning making the engine not turn over. Seen quite a few people that have had similar if any belt accessory seizes up... Like alternator, water pump, and other pulleys. It never even crossed my mind, but soon as I took the belt off it fired up straight away no problem. Will either replace the AC clutch, or just the whole unit. Unless you may have any other quick tips for the AC unit to get it spinning again. Cheers buddy!!
those terminals on the solenoid are not marked and the solenoid can be installed (on my car) in 4 different settings, like 1/4 rotation each. Are the terminals of the solenoid negative and positive? or will it matter since the solenoid is only a switch? (either on or off)?
What vehicle do you have? Probably the same starter used on multiple makes or models. Normally, any starter has body ground to the engine block, hot constant battery 12v and control.
@@PistonShack 97 tj. I found out that if you wire it backwards, the solenoid heats up!... when wired the proper way I only get clicks. I took it all apart, cleaned all leads, still only get clicks. All battery cables are clean and tight. Monday Im buying a new starter.
@@M3231-s3v Starter motor itself probably open (check continuity) or shorted or has mechanical problem with pinion shaft gear. I would just get new one (not reman if possible)
How can you ask for more $$ from ANYONE when the US has given you trillions already??? Watch when something happens in our country nobody dose anything for us!! Got homeless Americans we shouldn't be giving any country a dime!
@@PistonShack You appear to have watched a bunch of RUclips videos, gathered pointers from each one and put them all together to make this video? Get to the point and show the people how to tell for certain if their starter is bad or good while it’s on the car!!!
@@PistonShack You “Defiantly “ need to work on “THAT THERE” Spelling! Then we can work on cutting out the excess material in troubleshooting bad automotive starters.(your viewers will thank you) Merry Christmas and a happy new year!!
NO CRANK? BEST COMPLETE STARTER TEST TUTORIAL. Starter motor/solenoid bench troubleshooting.
Archiving title into my file storage. Great Vid
Glad it helped, buddy!
One of the best complete starter test videos on RUclips!
Thanks you. I tried to cover all possible test you can do to test starter.
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Very good. Right to the point. Thank you. Best starter testing video I've seen yet
Glad it helped
I like that you used "regular" tools rather than the fancy pants computer thing. I am trying to teach myself to rebuild a starter and this definitely will help when i put it back together
My Pleasure Tony! Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for sharing your video. You are of professional I've seen to effectively test a starter motor. Much appreciate 🙏
Glad it helped J Shunskey!
Thank you thank you for sharing I'm grateful for the knowledge of learning and I have a starter apart right now it spins but it doesn't engage but now I think it's something else thank you your video was excellent and very helpful
Glad it helped, Frank!
no i didnt kno already. thankyou for sharing
You're so welcome Steve. Thanks for your kind feedback.
Thank you for your fluid pace . Great explanation.
Glad it was helpful Tim!
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using handy tools to test starter motor very fast and easy
Greetings Hamox! Perfect, what was actually from with your starter motor? motor itself or solenoid failure?
very helpful video.
Thank you! Glad to help)
Best video about starter ever.
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Excellent video for a walk through, I got to the internal electrical test and my voltage dropped from 12 down to 5 volts, is this a sign of a faulty starter? All other tests passed
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De rien mon ami!
One more test to tell if a starter is good or bad. That is a resistance test while under load. You can take an ohms reading or resistance test on a starter with no load through it and it could check out just fine but if you put a load to it and then test for resistance he could tell a different story altogether.
Good point brother!
Great explanation. Thank you fluid pace.
Glad it was helpful Tim!
What about older Ford/AMC/Jeep starters with separate solenoid? Should run by grounding the case and touching hot to the terminal lug on the starter, correct?
thank you for this video
My pleasure!
On the first test: What did you touch the small jumper cable to that made the Starter spin?
I touched control terminal at the solenoid.
@@PistonShack Okay
Would a bad solenoid or starter blow a fuse upon turning on ignition? My boat keeps blowing the ignition fuse every time I turn it
85 dodge d150 just clicks when turn key, hook remote starter switch to s terminal on starter and poitive battery cable with key in on postion and press remote starter fires right up
if the "tap test" gets the starter working again and it tests fine after that should you replace the starter?
So when I touched the bendix connector the bendix jump up and slowly spinning, is this sign of something wrong with the starter? Thank you
Seems like contacts worn out or mechanical issue.
Hi, where could be a problem, if starter rotates, but pinion doesn't push out? Starter is new. I changed it, because of this problem. It hapenned on my last ride before winter time. When I was running on highway, engine stall suddenly. So I glided to the highway exit and put cas aside and tried to start engine, but it didn't. Only starter was moving. We towed to my garage and there I noticed, that starter didn't move with crankshaft. I tried to change starter relay, but it didn't help.
How accurate is the resistance test?
I mean if coils are shorted together inside,it still may come back with a low reading.
Resistance test is not the best to check starter circuit integrity. I would recommend to check voltage drop when starter still on a vehicle. Coils could be shorted but resistance might be okay, at least you can check coil continuity for open.
My pinion gear moves forward AND spins in test 2 (solenoid switch connection only). What does it mean?
Thank you so much Sir
Most welcome!
My starter passes all the tests, but when it's cold and I connect (only) the solenoid terminal, the pinion spins a little (and slow). It shouldn't right?
I have the same problem for that particular test but on normal weather condition 20 degrees celsius. Do you know what does it mean? Spin speed increases slowly
Sometime . I test starter are turning but leak of power car can not start. Usually . 5 years need to replace starter.
Thank you so much my friend, very good video, easy to understand, you are professional my friend. By the way, do you have a video how to bench test a ignition failure sensor/ignition control module, 4 pins, for a 2001 Hyundai Santa Fe 2.4 liter, thank you and God blessed you...
God Bless You Brother! I am glad this video helped you out. No, I don't have that kind video.
Ok. Not a problem friend, keep doing what you are doing, you are good at it. Take care buddy...
If my motor always spins but is slow, especially when engine is hot, will this show up with the windings test. Not sure what the ohms reading should be?
Hey Tom. It could be three main reasons why starter spins slowly: 1) brushesh wearing out; 1) poor connection at the main starter cable; 3) increased internal resistance of the starter.
@@PistonShack thanks piston shack. I've cleaned all the cable connections. I'll do your tests before ordering a renovated motor. I can't find a new one for my '81 Ford Capri 😭
Quick question. Car wouldn’t start on Sunday, after having driven it 5 min prior to the current problem. Turned key, nothing. Checked battery, it is still good. So, replaced starter. Still nothing. Replaced ignition actuator pin as I found it was broken. Still, nothing. Towed car to our house and it sat overnight. Came home from work last night, and went to work on it but decided to try and start, and it started right away with zero issue. Turned off several more times to test it and started each time without issue. This morning, went into the garage and it is not starting again. No clue what is going on!! Any ideas? Ty so much in advance. It is a 2001 Wrangler Sport, BTW.
I can feel the pain. Did you find the issue?
@@sergiokirienko2622 Ended up being the starter. When I replaced it, the internal components must have been stuck. Tapped it with a mallet and it began working and has given me no issues since.
@@wef0711 Thanks for your reply I'm going through a similar scenario and will take the mallet into consideration when my replacement arrives
What if the volts drop down to 6 . something when doing the voltage test drop when engaging the stater, yours only went down to 9 volts? Thanks
If volts dropped to 6v you have high resistance in starter circuit somewhere. Most likely corroded wire or terminals.
@@PistonShack thanks its all good with new starter now.
What if when conducting solenoid test and instead of it just moving back and forth it moves back and forth and still spins
Hey Eric! Most likely contacts inside permanently closed or shorted. What did you find?
@@PistonShack I realized that that everything was working fine and since it was a 24V battery, one of it(the battery) had a charge voltage of 10.50V and the other had 12.45v and as I was jump starting I did the mistake of joining both batteries in series instead of just jumping starting the one with the 10.50V. This is when its already mount to the gearbox casing (on load test)
Anyways your content was really helpful
Why not do the resistance test first on motor and other meter test before actual starter operation? Otherwise great vid
this is the best
Thanks Solomon!
Why if bench test ford ranger starter, it not stay ingauge if i keep small wire on pin. It uningage with start small wire on start point. It must only uningage only when i take of start thin wire, am i right or wrong?
Rrrrrealy hope someone can help me. Thanks guys.
what if your starter is very hard to get to?
It's funny. I watch this video but don't know if it's a bad video because I cannot see then before I comment youtube tells me to be respectfull and civilised. What world am I living in
No negativity in the comments. Is it good? Is anyone fact checking this information?
@@tommywilliams8953 Some RUclipsrs have a little list that pops up if you've never commented on their videos. Don't take it personally. 😂
Awesome!!! Thank you!
You're welcome!
You're very welcome)
Could anyone help a brother out... I changed a starter motor and it spins real real slow.. It pops out and spins/ runs fine out the car on bench test.. So I bypassed the cables using jump leads straight to starter... And when it's fitted back in car it only makes the click where the spindle pops out but it doesn't spin when in the car. The positive lead heats up when this happens at the positive starter connection bolt. 2 months and still no further forward. 😭 Not sure why it works fine out the car on bench, but using exact same jump lead connections when fitted in car it just doesn't spin the crank. Driving me insane.
Hey Craig! Well, I would do 1) voltage drop test at the starter when circuit as loaded (cranking position) then compare voltage at the battery while cranking with voltage at the starter main stud and eyelet; 2) check ground voltage at the started, should be not more then 100-300 mV; 3) check battery posts connections on both ends and cables integrity; 4)connect battery charger, set to engine start mode to verify the issue; 5) replace starter relay. Let me know how everything is going.
@@PistonShackhi I got there in the end a couple days ago... Turned out the AC compressor pump was stuck fast and not rotating, so the belt wasnt spinning making the engine not turn over. Seen quite a few people that have had similar if any belt accessory seizes up... Like alternator, water pump, and other pulleys. It never even crossed my mind, but soon as I took the belt off it fired up straight away no problem. Will either replace the AC clutch, or just the whole unit. Unless you may have any other quick tips for the AC unit to get it spinning again. Cheers buddy!!
those terminals on the solenoid are not marked and the solenoid can be installed (on my car) in 4 different settings, like 1/4 rotation each. Are the terminals of the solenoid negative and positive? or will it matter since the solenoid is only a switch? (either on or off)?
What vehicle do you have? Probably the same starter used on multiple makes or models. Normally, any starter has body ground to the engine block, hot constant battery 12v and control.
@@PistonShack 97 tj. I found out that if you wire it backwards, the solenoid heats up!... when wired the proper way I only get clicks. I took it all apart, cleaned all leads, still only get clicks. All battery cables are clean and tight. Monday Im buying a new starter.
@@M3231-s3v Starter motor itself probably open (check continuity) or shorted or has mechanical problem with pinion shaft gear. I would just get new one (not reman if possible)
Why would you not test this whilst still in the vehicle ?
Just easy to film when starter is out but you are right you can do all test when starter still in the vehicle.
my starter push out solonoid and turn but on car wont push solonoid yustclickand starterturn
Probably time for the new starter motor or might try to rebuild it, like we did it old days! Cheers Lorenco!
@@PistonShack bendix slip aftertime
How to check motor ampere
Put amp clamp on positive cable down at the starter.
How can you ask for more $$ from ANYONE when the US has given you trillions already??? Watch when something happens in our country nobody dose anything for us!! Got homeless Americans we shouldn't be giving any country a dime!
Stay at your day job
You bet! Thanks for watching Mr. Obvious.
@@PistonShack You appear to have watched a bunch of RUclips videos, gathered pointers from each one and put them all together to make this video? Get to the point and show the people how to tell for certain if their starter is bad or good while it’s on the car!!!
@@mrobvious5892Good point. Thanks for your idea! Next time when I will have faulty starter I will defiantly make good video. Merry Christmas!
@@PistonShack You “Defiantly “ need to work on “THAT THERE” Spelling! Then we can work on cutting out the excess material in troubleshooting bad automotive starters.(your viewers will thank you) Merry Christmas and a happy new year!!
@@mrobvious5892 English is not his first language. What is wrong with you, guy?
Good job.
Thanks Canelo!