@@MytronixOfficial I'd think the pilot would anticipate those alarms instead. You can still get into real trouble, especially doing those non standard maneuvers.
I'd assume since it's a 787-8 it came from BOG, and it'd definitely be full, since the only times 787s go to CTG are when multiple flights from BOG are delayed or canceled to detriment. Full 788 and a 2300m runway might wanna play it safe... although KLM lands the 789 and 772 there... not really sure about load levels tho.
It's not "too steep", it's being flown by a test pilot who knows exactly what they are doing. Saw the same maneuvre at Farnborough years ago, seriously impressive what they do.
@@DopeKenFresh Not sure about seats but it will have No Passengers, No Luggage/Cargo and minimal fuel, It is also Airbus's test aircraft so they will be able to do what they want with it.
At farnborough when it covered us all in bits of hay/dried grass? 😂 It looked majestic didn’t it, I’m still not sure how it was flying, seemed like it was just hanging by a piece of string or something 😂
@@DopeKenFresh it has the seats because they need to show the interior between flights to potential clients but they do the airshow almost empty of fuel and no cargo.
I live in Paris and was in the crowd at Le Bourget for that A380 demonstration. When I described it to aviation fans afterwards, they accused me of gross exaggeration. This video tells it as it is.
@@r12004rewy I guess you need to do some research on the economics and context. It turns out you need a sufficiently large fleet of A380s to offset the fixed costs of operations.
@@r12004rewy Do you want to understand? Or just French-bash? I suspect the latter. Prove me wrong and go and read remarks from the Emirates CEO who has 150 A380s on the need for a critical mass fleet before the economics work. Please learn.
Holly, watching the Avianca's hard landing i feel pain striking my spine. And the Tornados... I was a ground maintenance crew man for eight years in the 1990's in the german airforce. I love that plane.
As a flightline jet engine mech/ass't crew chief in the USAF, I had the pleasure to work alongside Brit Tornados during a TDY when I was stationed in Europe, last half of the '80s. We were parked next to each other on the ramp, so I had plenty of opportunities to look it over. So impressive looking! It was/is a sharp looking acft!
I'm a little surprised that the design wasn't used more extensively as a VIP aircraft, such as for sports teams. Every player on the team could have his own little bedroom.
I mean it's hardly like they're using these displays to be like 'and this is how airlines could fly it if they weren't wusses!' It's just showcasing the performance of the engines and how well the computers can keep it pretty much at the maximum angle of attack.
Flown on an A380 to Dubai and Singapore and Bangkok. Basically the best long haul flight there is. Amazing plane. So comfortable, so smooth, so spacious.
That’s the same thing the jet manufacturers do when they’re stress testing new models. They usually go even steeper than that and for longer. Pretty cool sight!
"Too steeply?" Not really, he pulled it off, I love seeing what the big transports can REALLY do, meanwhile, most people freak out when they hit a little bump, thinking the wings are going to come off!
How can you say this is what the plane can really do when obviously it can only do that under a very specific set of circumstances, like almost no fuel cargo and weight
@@ticenits1926 I meant of course it's max performance at minimum gross weight. Though seeing it's max performance at max gross weight would be more instructive to its overal utility in the passenger market, it'd be a lot less fun to watch!
Not even that. Routine climb out for a U2 is about 35 degrees, and this wasn't that steep, watching a U2 takeoff is crazy, I've seen them flying out of Ames, they clear a hole with air traffic control all the way to 60,000 feet, and then just keep going up out of sight.
Actually the A380 is not taking off "too" steeply, because it worked out fine. You can't do this fully loaded and in passenger service, but the plane in this configuration is apparently able to do it. If it has been "too steeply" it would have resulted in a critical situation. So the headline is as always BS for clicks (even if you don't need that).
0:50 When they use RWY 10 it's tricky. Especially the north side because of the proximity to the I-5 bridge. RWY24 is a bit better just cause you have a little more time to descend after crossing over 205. But 10L/24R is a fun approach
Two things I noticed. An A380 has an awesome amount of power. We just never see it on takeoff because nowadays full throttle takeoffs are very rare. But when they do apply full throttle, which is probably what that empty A380 did on that demonstration flight it would be almost like a 757 rocket takeoff. The second thing was that that Triple 7 had a tail skid, so a tail strike would probably result in no danage other than to the tail skid. I think a lot of the stretched models of several aircraft now feature tail skids.
After Aerosucre would load this airplane in their own unique way, it would have a climb rate comparable with their 727. It would crack any taxiway and runway due to weight though...
The steep clime out a favorite airshow maneuver for the airliner manufacturers. I want to see one of these pull all the way through an Immelmann. That would be fun to watch.
Man, I know planes have been around for over a century now, but when I think of the engineering leaps and bounds between the Wright Brothers (and their contemporaries) to now, human innovation amazes me. Just seeing the biggest aircraft taking off still amazes me like when I was a kid, even if I now understand the science behind it.
The front of the aircraft is the fuselage, and the aft section is the Empennage. Im just writing this for informational purposes. Thank you for the great video.
It's so funny that after all those episodes there are still subtitles switched on by default repeating exactly what the text in the picture says anyway
From the folks who brought you "Sink Rate! Pull Up!" : Now presenting "Climb Rate! Nose down!", the long awaited sequel. Buy now and get "Stall! Stall! Stall!" for free lol In all seriousness tho: the performance of that A380 is fucking insane man.
"Okay, let's try the steep takeoff again but with a full passenger load." "Oh no, we're stalling... losing altitude... what was I thinking... aarrrggghhhh."
If you pause the Delta landing (video #2) at exactly 0:48 (not 0:47 or 0:49) ...you'll see a really interesting wind effect just under the tail. -I'm not convinced that it was actually a tail strike, tho' Although the smoke blocks the full view, so it's really difficult to say...
I hate when people use “vertical takeoff” when talking about airliners and stuff. It’s not a vertical takeoff, it’s a steep climb. A vertical takeoff would be like a helicopter or a rocket ect.
I enjoy this channel, but the A380 take-off was not “nearly vertical,” although I understand the temptation to word it that way. Cheers, and keep up the good work!
I feel for the maintenance crews who have to work overtime because of pilot error. “Sorry son, I won’t be home for your birthday party tonight, some jerk in an 87 just planted his undercarriage into the runway and the boss wants it back in the air by tomorrow night.” You know the airline bosses made a call to the pilot after that - performance review in the morning.
Hard landings are often intentional though. If you are dealing with a short runway, poor traction, high winds, maybe some sort of malfunction with one of the planes breaking systems; landing hard is a way to dump a lot of your energy into the ground rather than it be converted to more forward momentum that may result in overrunning the runway.
What a lot of people do not understand, is that most of the limits imposed on airliners are NOT because of aircraft capability, its because they are carrying passengers. Over 15 years ago, Boeing 737's that ere restricted to top cruise altitudes of 35,000-37,000 ft, could easily cruise at 41,000 and sometimes higher. There are a lot of reasons for that, but it's not because the aircraft is not capable. That A380, most likely had only a skeleton crew onboard with oxygen masks for them, and were wearing them. They have a significant safety margin built in, for when carrying passengers.
A fair way off vertical. I saw them do that at Farnborough as well, the were a bit harsher on the turn then. Plus the slow flypast with all the flap on was incredible. Looked as if it was doing about 30mph 😂
If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going. I’ve been on the 737-9 MAX probably 20 times now since they were declared safe again and it’s seriously a super quiet and comfortable plane. Flown SEA to ENW, SEA to HON, SEA to ANC and SEA to DFW with it and it’s so much nicer than the older 737-900 series.
If I ever need to do long hall again from Australia to England I would be overjoyed to be flow by that 380 pilot, as I'm sure they could cut a whole day i.e. 24 hours off the totally painful long hall journey experience... ;)
These days it seems like 90% of all headlines are misleading or completely false. This one was no different. (I also think that to be a journalist or anyone involved in mass media, a prerequisite is that you need to know very little about math and science, and even less about aviation.)
The acceleration of those modern business jets is absolutely insane.
they are built for cocaine smuggling :D
True that
Pretty much the power to weight ratio of a fighter with a weapons loadout.
Was thinking that too.
Boy racer - showing off 😄
all the alarms going off in that cockpit in the first video must've been insane.
I think they turn a lot of the safeties and alarms off for those Airshows. I dont think the A380s alpha floor protection allows such manuvers.
@@MytronixOfficial I don't know much about airplanes, but it sounds like you do. That makes sense, thanks for the info!
“STALL, STALL!”
@@MytronixOfficial alpha floor only deals with power. It simply takes the airplane to full power.
@@MytronixOfficial I'd think the pilot would anticipate those alarms instead. You can still get into real trouble, especially doing those non standard maneuvers.
Avianca : You are fired !!
*Ryanair* : Welcome!!!
Aww Aww Ouch Ooouuch!!! 🤣
@@Meisha-san Ouch is right with that kind of landing!
I assume Aerosucre to be the intermediate party.
@Jon Luthje exactly, as they're both colombian lol
I'd assume since it's a 787-8 it came from BOG, and it'd definitely be full, since the only times 787s go to CTG are when multiple flights from BOG are delayed or canceled to detriment. Full 788 and a 2300m runway might wanna play it safe... although KLM lands the 789 and 772 there... not really sure about load levels tho.
Its fine, the pilots of the a380 just turned off gravity, totally normal
I find it encouraging. Knowing that it has this much more energy available when needed. It could have two missing engines and still do okay.
That thing has a thrust to empty weight ratio of about 0.5
Got to love that switch😋
Avianca didn’t have that option.
A trick Aerosucre hasn't mastered yet.
It's not "too steep", it's being flown by a test pilot who knows exactly what they are doing. Saw the same maneuvre at Farnborough years ago, seriously impressive what they do.
i wonder if it has all its passenger seats aboard
@@DopeKenFresh Not sure about seats but it will have No Passengers, No Luggage/Cargo and minimal fuel, It is also Airbus's test aircraft so they will be able to do what they want with it.
@@DopeKenFresh how much do you think they put in the tanks? And which ones?
At farnborough when it covered us all in bits of hay/dried grass? 😂
It looked majestic didn’t it, I’m still not sure how it was flying, seemed like it was just hanging by a piece of string or something 😂
@@DopeKenFresh it has the seats because they need to show the interior between flights to potential clients but they do the airshow almost empty of fuel and no cargo.
I live in Paris and was in the crowd at Le Bourget for that A380 demonstration. When I described it to aviation fans afterwards, they accused me of gross exaggeration. This video tells it as it is.
Wonder why Air France gave up on the 380 so early, they did the same with Concorde for all the wrong reasons
@@r12004rewy I guess you need to do some research on the economics and context. It turns out you need a sufficiently large fleet of A380s to offset the fixed costs of operations.
@@lours6993 Other carriers seem to be able to operate the 380s successfully.
@@r12004rewy Do you want to understand? Or just French-bash? I suspect the latter. Prove me wrong and go and read remarks from the Emirates CEO who has 150 A380s on the need for a critical mass fleet before the economics work. Please learn.
Yes, "...gross exaggeration. " 😮
When you see what these big jets are really capable of, it makes you feel a lot better about flying on them.
Holly, watching the Avianca's hard landing i feel pain striking my spine.
And the Tornados... I was a ground maintenance crew man for eight years in the 1990's in the german airforce. I love that plane.
The pilot must have been hanging out the cockpit window to get that shot.
I loved seeing those Tornados at air force open days here in the Netherlands. They're awesome!
Tornado is the best ever !!!
As a flightline jet engine mech/ass't crew chief in the USAF, I had the pleasure to work alongside Brit Tornados during a TDY when I was stationed in Europe, last half of the '80s. We were parked next to each other on the ramp, so I had plenty of opportunities to look it over. So impressive looking! It was/is a sharp looking acft!
This was part of the A380 world tour before being put into service. This thing is insane. Automated takeoff and landing and the interiors are insane.
its a great plane, probably the only time I've sat in the middle of the middle aisle and not felt cramped. Shame it never got more popular
I'm a little surprised that the design wasn't used more extensively as a VIP aircraft, such as for sports teams. Every player on the team could have his own little bedroom.
@@DaveOGorman-h6i In some models there are queen sleeper suites.
I wonder how many times a year controllers get radio calls that a plane can't take off because the pilot dropped their phone out the window.
Pilot: Auto flare extremely rough.
Mechanic: Auto flare not installed in this aircraft.
lol
Keeping in mind, the A380 was empty, probably rotated well past Vr, and slightly lowered the climb rate after a few hundred feet.
cockpit crew, no pax, and 2000 kilos of fuel. Hope they made it around to land.
I mean it's hardly like they're using these displays to be like 'and this is how airlines could fly it if they weren't wusses!'
It's just showcasing the performance of the engines and how well the computers can keep it pretty much at the maximum angle of attack.
@@johnstreet797 more like 20000 kg.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 At least.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Nope, too much weight. It has just enough fuel to take off, go around and land.
He owns us 3 seconds of aviation
The 787 pilot worked for ryanair, totally normal to him
what a climb by the A380 !
I would phrase it thus, the A380 takes off as steep as it can (without an unintentional high speed landing).
"near vertical" LOL. If it broke 45 degrees i would be surprised.
@@M3PH11 - Exactly. I was like, that 45 degrees, far from vertical.
"unintentional high speed landing." I'll remember this! 🤣🤣🤣
you happen to work for PR, or something? 😂
That A380 take off.....wow ✌️
Flown on an A380 to Dubai and Singapore and Bangkok. Basically the best long haul flight there is. Amazing plane. So comfortable, so smooth, so spacious.
I was there for that a380 takeoff. Never seen anything more beautiful
Then you've never seen a Connie. Or the Concorde. The 380 in my view is a very ugly plane. Put one on the ramp next to a 747. There is no comparison.
1:35 me in flight simulators:
That’s the same thing the jet manufacturers do when they’re stress testing new models. They usually go even steeper than that and for longer. Pretty cool sight!
"Too steeply?" Not really, he pulled it off, I love seeing what the big transports can REALLY do, meanwhile, most people freak out when they hit a little bump, thinking the wings are going to come off!
Never know man. Could hit a bump next thing you know half of the united states is missing. 😂
Exaggeration for views
How can you say this is what the plane can really do when obviously it can only do that under a very specific set of circumstances, like almost no fuel cargo and weight
@@ticenits1926 I meant of course it's max performance at minimum gross weight. Though seeing it's max performance at max gross weight would be more instructive to its overal utility in the passenger market, it'd be a lot less fun to watch!
0:08 Actually looks like about 45 degrees vs. the title of vertical (90 degrees)
Not even that. Routine climb out for a U2 is about 35 degrees, and this wasn't that steep, watching a U2 takeoff is crazy, I've seen them flying out of Ames, they clear a hole with air traffic control all the way to 60,000 feet, and then just keep going up out of sight.
Actually the A380 is not taking off "too" steeply, because it worked out fine. You can't do this fully loaded and in passenger service, but the plane in this configuration is apparently able to do it. If it has been "too steeply" it would have resulted in a critical situation. So the headline is as always BS for clicks (even if you don't need that).
Well of course you can't do it fully loaded.
Your cabin crew would castrate you for that.
@@dougaltolan3017 Maybe, after their recovery.
0:50 When they use RWY 10 it's tricky. Especially the north side because of the proximity to the I-5 bridge. RWY24 is a bit better just cause you have a little more time to descend after crossing over 205. But 10L/24R is a fun approach
28l/r you mean?
Two things I noticed. An A380 has an awesome amount of power. We just never see it on takeoff because nowadays full throttle takeoffs are very rare. But when they do apply full throttle, which is probably what that empty A380 did on that demonstration flight it would be almost like a 757 rocket takeoff. The second thing was that that Triple 7 had a tail skid, so a tail strike would probably result in no danage other than to the tail skid. I think a lot of the stretched models of several aircraft now feature tail skids.
That 787 is Ryanair approved 👌
damn that turn after the steep climb was wild, that's usually how stall spins happen!
As soon as he went into the turn, his pitch attitude decreased, which resulted in the airspeed increasing.
An empty A380 is an overpowered A380. Like a truck without a trailer.
That a380 got a stall warning when it took of
Ouch! I felt those hard landings in my back! Must have been recruits from Aerosucre! 😬😮
No. Probably Ryanair.
@@DavidThumim99099 🤣🤣
Aerosucre don't do hard landings. They do hard takeoffs 😭
@@keenanhenry95 True. I just assumed their landings were as good as the takeoffs.🤭😁
A380: Check out my impressive take off angle and climb rate!
Aerosucre: 👀leaves the chat
After Aerosucre would load this airplane in their own unique way, it would have a climb rate comparable with their 727. It would crack any taxiway and runway due to weight though...
That's so funny! Those guys must be loaded to the hilt on every flight.
The steep clime out a favorite airshow maneuver for the airliner manufacturers. I want to see one of these pull all the way through an Immelmann. That would be fun to watch.
2:02 how did they film this? out the window?
You can open the cockpit windows on the 737 (and on several others planes)
I thought the same thing!
This captain now works as part-time camera person. Perfect chasing of the Tornadoes.
That CJ4 has some serious acceleration!! 😲
1:17 sofrest RYR landing
Thanks for quality videos, clean edits and most of all no 'misleading titles'. I thought that first A380 was a sim at first 🤪 lol - Subscribed!
As an average idiot passenger man it really puts confidence seeing how these planes can slam onto the runway and still be okay. So cool. 😊
Colombia featuring twice in with the Avianca landing at CTG and the Iberia landing at BOG
Man, I know planes have been around for over a century now, but when I think of the engineering leaps and bounds between the Wright Brothers (and their contemporaries) to now, human innovation amazes me. Just seeing the biggest aircraft taking off still amazes me like when I was a kid, even if I now understand the science behind it.
That CJ4 would’ve scared me the most. I would’ve soiled myself after he tried again, fortunately he knew he could make it the second time. 😮
Steep takeoff for the A380, yes, but hardly "nearly vertical"
Compared to Aerosucre.......
@@dougaltolan3017 Well, Aerosucre planes take off horizontally and allow the earth's curvature to eventually provide the ground clearance.
the A380 is like every new player in ptfs roblox taking off
The front of the aircraft is the fuselage, and the aft section is the Empennage. Im just writing this for informational purposes. Thank you for the great video.
That A380 said "it's OK, where were going we don't need stall warnings"
It's so funny that after all those episodes there are still subtitles switched on by default repeating exactly what the text in the picture says anyway
subtitles aren't switched on by default
Keeps popping up on my device too, but it's an RUclips issue I guess.
RUclips has been changing things(again) Double check all your settings.
@@soccerguy2433 Yep, in these videos they are.
@@litamtondy Not on any of my devices!
I felt both of those hard landings! Ouch.
Impressive A380 take off but looked more like 45 degrees rather than near vertical 😆 Good to see the Tonkas.
Yeah, but to give you an idea, the steepest a road can legally be in the U.S. is 15 degrees. And it looks like a wall in front of your car.
It's a good lift off. Any lift off that doesn't end up crashing is great. That one looks cool
"Surely you can't be serious!"
"I am serious, and don't call me Shirley."
From the folks who brought you "Sink Rate! Pull Up!" : Now presenting "Climb Rate! Nose down!", the long awaited sequel. Buy now and get "Stall! Stall! Stall!" for free lol
In all seriousness tho: the performance of that A380 is fucking insane man.
Colombia: Hits hard!
1:17 Ouch, just watching that already hurt a lot!
I love seeing equipment do things it generally wouldn't do :)
"Okay, let's try the steep takeoff again but with a full passenger load."
"Oh no, we're stalling... losing altitude... what was I thinking... aarrrggghhhh."
That citation has a lot of acceleration on takeoff😮💨
If you pause the Delta landing
(video #2)
at exactly 0:48
(not 0:47 or 0:49)
...you'll see a really interesting wind effect just under the tail.
-I'm not convinced that it was actually a tail strike, tho' Although the smoke blocks the full view, so it's really difficult to say...
Yes it's really insane
I hate when people use “vertical takeoff” when talking about airliners and stuff. It’s not a vertical takeoff, it’s a steep climb. A vertical takeoff would be like a helicopter or a rocket ect.
It is not too steeply when nothing happens. It would be too steeply if it had stalled.
Also, 30 degrees nose up is hardly a "near vertical takeoff"
The Avianca dude at 1:00 has just finished watching Top Gun. "Let's do this the Navy way!"
that a380 some mad skills
I recognize that blue/silver painted building in the CJ4 clip. KSQL / San Carlos, CA.
They took rotate to seriously😂
Good job those wings have extra strong rivets 😳
I enjoy this channel, but the A380 take-off was not “nearly vertical,” although I understand the temptation to word it that way. Cheers, and keep up the good work!
Great one today!
I’d like to try that take off on the emirates 380 slouched against the bar in the back as I have been on many occasions.
Excellent video!
The 787-8 was flown by a Navy pilot expecting to grab the 3 wire.
First clip pilot: "These noise-abatement procedures are really getting out of hand!"
What an engineering marvel.
I feel for the wheels when a plane lands hard. No wonder, sometimes, wheels fall off.
I feel for the maintenance crews who have to work overtime because of pilot error.
“Sorry son, I won’t be home for your birthday party tonight, some jerk in an 87 just planted his undercarriage into the runway and the boss wants it back in the air by tomorrow night.”
You know the airline bosses made a call to the pilot after that - performance review in the morning.
@@CoffeeMatt10 😂
Better a hard landing than a long one.
or a wet one
I've seen an ✈️🛫 airplane takeoff once at 45° angle roughly and I was pretty bewildered looked scary but that 1st one was crazier !!!!!
1:05 Any landing you can walk away from is a good one..
or for Navy fliers swim away from
A380 may cease to exist but it won't cease to surprise.
That Avianca landing must be pretty standard since no one made a sound!
Friend: How's life treating you?
Me: Well... 1:16
Hard landings are often intentional though. If you are dealing with a short runway, poor traction, high winds, maybe some sort of malfunction with one of the planes breaking systems; landing hard is a way to dump a lot of your energy into the ground rather than it be converted to more forward momentum that may result in overrunning the runway.
Thought he may have been going for a 3point landing !
It also looks like the pilot did indeed flare the aircraft at least a little bit too.
1:16. Ryanair found its new pilots.
The 380 made a CONVENTIONAL ROLLING TAKEOFF, not vertical. It's climb angle approached 45 degrees NOT VERTICAL.
Words have no meaning on this channel.
I'm taking my license classes in Colombia and I can tell you that the weather here makes it SO HARD to fly here.
I'm Colombian, and I understand. The weather is so unpredictible
Just goes to show how powerful those engines are. Damm plane went nearly vertical.
Avianca: you are fired!
Ryanair: after your 6 months training with Aerosucre we will hire you!
My god, the A380 is such a beautiful airplane!
Time for an over stress inspection.
What a lot of people do not understand, is that most of the limits imposed on airliners are NOT because of aircraft capability, its because they are carrying passengers. Over 15 years ago, Boeing 737's that ere restricted to top cruise altitudes of 35,000-37,000 ft, could easily cruise at 41,000 and sometimes higher. There are a lot of reasons for that, but it's not because the aircraft is not capable. That A380, most likely had only a skeleton crew onboard with oxygen masks for them, and were wearing them.
They have a significant safety margin built in, for when carrying passengers.
Not only did it take off steeply, but it turned! 👀🤯🙂
A fair way off vertical. I saw them do that at Farnborough as well, the were a bit harsher on the turn then. Plus the slow flypast with all the flap on was incredible. Looked as if it was doing about 30mph 😂
If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going. I’ve been on the 737-9 MAX probably 20 times now since they were declared safe again and it’s seriously a super quiet and comfortable plane. Flown SEA to ENW, SEA to HON, SEA to ANC and SEA to DFW with it and it’s so much nicer than the older 737-900 series.
A380 is just awesome
Ryanair has a new competitor
If I ever need to do long hall again from Australia to England I would be overjoyed to be flow by that 380 pilot, as I'm sure they could cut a whole day i.e. 24 hours off the totally painful long hall journey experience... ;)
How do you figure a ~45 degree climb angle is "near vertical"?
These days it seems like 90% of all headlines are misleading or completely false. This one was no different. (I also think that to be a journalist or anyone involved in mass media, a prerequisite is that you need to know very little about math and science, and even less about aviation.)
These jets are super powerful. I've seen an accident where the wind generated blew a fully loaded 18wheeler off the road!
That reminded me of watching an An-225 takeoff I saw 30+ yrs ago.
I jumped out of my seat, when that 787 touched down at Cartagena
😍 Real Life Microsoft Flight Simulator.
I felt that! @1:15 Geesh!