Civil War Muskets - Story of the 1853 Enfield & 1861 Springfield

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  • @antiqueshistoryandconspira3791
    @antiqueshistoryandconspira3791 3 года назад +25

    What I don't understand, if they made so many Springfield 1861s, why can't I find a decent priced rifle for reenactments?

    • @thgentleman9210
      @thgentleman9210 3 года назад +4

      Needs to fit safety requirements also its a old firearm if its original its a piece of art not just a musket.

    • @mdr1396
      @mdr1396 3 года назад

      The main thing is even finding repros now days. Check out Dixie gun works.
      As for originals, gun broker has a good number of them, but they cost more than the reproductions.

    • @orcuser
      @orcuser 3 года назад +1

      Um is $889 for a new 1853 enfield a good price? I wanna make sure I'm well defended in these trying times. 😅😂

    • @shanewoody4232
      @shanewoody4232 3 года назад +3

      @@thgentleman9210 also many of them were converted to the 1865 trapdoor Springfield

    • @achillebelanger9546
      @achillebelanger9546 2 года назад

      Try MDW Guns in Waterford ,Maine. He took in an old Estate Collection. He still has a Springfield and a Potsdam Musket. Good luck,and happy hunting!

  • @jordanboyle539
    @jordanboyle539 4 года назад +20

    The Enfield and the Springfield were practically the exact same rifle.The 53 Enfield built by Enfield for British forces were fantastic rifles.

    • @alifr4088
      @alifr4088 2 года назад +2

      Also way easier to load and faster rate of fire (using pritchett cartridge)

    • @haraldisdead
      @haraldisdead 2 года назад

      One was paid for by free men.
      The other was paid for by blood, extracted by conservative barbarity.

  • @kanifalam7835
    @kanifalam7835 4 года назад +19

    It's funny, you look back at these old muskets that seem so primitive, yet at the time they were state of the art. They also caused much more damage to a man's body than the modern assault rifle cartridges.

    • @markzimmerman7279
      @markzimmerman7279 4 года назад +2

      @VobisPacem bones hit were shattered causing many amputations, but dead is dead no mater the cause

    • @Outdoorshuntingshooting
      @Outdoorshuntingshooting 4 года назад

      @VobisPacem the modern military rifle is chambered in .223, a very small round comparatively speaking, more designed to wound than kill. The thinking behind it is, it ties up the enemies time evacuating wounded soldiers from the battlefield. This was discovered to be a major issue in Afghanistan, enemy troops were not being killed allowing them to fight on.

    • @grinishkin
      @grinishkin 2 года назад

      @@Outdoorshuntingshooting such an approach it is known from the Vietnam war where booby traps were used for the same purpose

    • @cattledog901
      @cattledog901 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Outdoorshuntingshooting Absolute fuddlore

  • @JohnnyButtons
    @JohnnyButtons 4 года назад +16

    Lionheart makes the very best historic films!!! Love what you're doing!!! Thank you....

  • @grant6165
    @grant6165 5 лет назад +12

    Cool video. Minor correction, it mentions that the 1861 added a rear sight. But the 1855 had a rear sight as well.

    • @Janetsfear
      @Janetsfear 4 года назад +2

      Right you are and furthermore you can prime an 1855 with a percussion cap same as the 1861. Dispensing with the Maynard priming system eliminated the cost of an unreliable feature offering speed when it worked. But when it didn't you were no worse off.

    • @markzimmerman7279
      @markzimmerman7279 4 года назад +1

      Some of the 55s had elevator sights that were probably superior to the sights of the 61s

  • @brendaproffitt4807
    @brendaproffitt4807 5 лет назад +3

    Wow super and awesome history film.amazing thank you so so much

  • @sergegodin9621
    @sergegodin9621 5 лет назад +1

    Wow, very interesting video. Thanks and subbed!

  • @sotis1756
    @sotis1756 4 года назад +6

    7:53 wow thats brutal a P53 at that range must be devastating.. poor young men that had to go like that..

    • @jordanboyle539
      @jordanboyle539 4 года назад +2

      Definelty, would of turned a soldiers insides to mush 😣 war is a horrid affair, always has been and always will. Ex British infantry 2nd battalion The Royal Welsh A coy, on an interesting note it was B company of my regiment who held of the ferocious Zulu warriors at Rorkes Drift n1879 and is still known today as B rorkes drift coy.

    • @sotis1756
      @sotis1756 4 года назад +1

      @@jordanboyle539 yes indeed :/ Those old rifles sure were brutal. They still are but it was different back then when you had poor medical knowledge of those wounds yes war is hell Young men sent out to die because some politician says so :( Wow! It must've been awesome to have been in such an old regiment :D i salute you!

  • @joemontgomery6658
    @joemontgomery6658 4 года назад +1

    Some of the Harpers Ferry equipment went to Fayetteville NC, and the Model 1855s were made there as well. FYI

  • @floo1465
    @floo1465 5 лет назад +1

    These videos are underrated.

  • @normanhowe4938
    @normanhowe4938 4 года назад +2

    Awesome channel

  • @danm7298
    @danm7298 Год назад +1

    Its amazing how rapid firearms innovation was during this period from 1830s when flintlocks were still used and percussion caps were the new thing to 1886 when smokeless was invented and ww1 happened. Then from ww1 and on firearms technology stayed the virtually the same up until today.

  • @johannesvanhoek9080
    @johannesvanhoek9080 Год назад

    I have many of these models , really fun to shoot pieces of history !

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC Год назад

    I used to own a British Crown made Enfield made 1853, it was still in monthly use, another one, made by a smaller company was only good for wall hanging .. wonderful rifle,

  • @CRuf-qw4yv
    @CRuf-qw4yv 4 года назад +2

    I have handled and fired both of these rifled muskets. I prefer the Springfield as its easier on the hands. It is well contoured. The Enfield has some sharp angles on it around the sights and other metal furniture. But I find the 1842 .69 calibre smooth bore is more fun and challenging to shoot than either of the aforementioned guns....and I like the way it is styled as well.

    • @DarthMercanto
      @DarthMercanto 4 года назад

      C. Ruf I know what you mean. I have all three, though my 1861 is mostly for re-enactment. The M1842 is incredibly fun to shoot, and more accurate then most folks think.

    • @markzimmerman7279
      @markzimmerman7279 4 года назад

      But your not fighting a war with it a rifle is much more accurate at longer ranges

  • @Senor0Droolcup
    @Senor0Droolcup 5 лет назад

    Love these videos

  • @94thohio577
    @94thohio577 4 года назад +11

    Overall, a good informative video. But the south did not import more Enfields than the north. About 500,000 for the north and 300,00 to 400,000 for the south. And the south did not trade cotton but rather pieces of paper that were cotton futures. When the south collapsed, so did London Armoury, in bankruptcy.

    • @deets6926
      @deets6926 3 года назад +2

      On the contrary yes they did, later in the war the north abandon their contracts with the british. The Confederacy was more than happy to pick up these contracts and the british happy to agree. Although these were a "second class" handmade enfields, not quite the quality of the rifles first acquired. The Confederates arrived months before the union diplomats did giving them first pick over these "first class" machine made enfields.

  • @hafizfirliansyah7784
    @hafizfirliansyah7784 4 года назад +5

    The Musket Race In American Civil War.
    Enfield Armory(Britain).
    Vs
    Springfield Armory(USA).

    • @blueofthelightanddark6273
      @blueofthelightanddark6273 4 года назад

      Hafiz Firliansyah true.

    • @markzimmerman7279
      @markzimmerman7279 4 года назад

      There were enfields being manufactured in the US before the civil war , surplus parts were used to build 1861 special contract muskets.

  • @geppogeppo8545
    @geppogeppo8545 Год назад

    On the barrel of my 3-band P53 riled, Tower 1857, is engraved "YEOMANS". Do you know anything? The stock is like Windsor with flat springs for the bands, but all the brands are English. I can send you the photos. 1 K thanks. Ciao da Milano

  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 Год назад

    By 1863, ONE Northern Springfield armory was outproducing in one month what the South struggled to produce as a whole in an entire year. Britain definitely prolonged the war and caused the deaths of many Union boys by 'unofficially' supporting the Confederacy. They sent tons of arms, ammunition, medical supplies and built blockade runners along with offering safe harboring to them out of the reach of US naval ships. It was an underhanded way of trying to cripple the North, whom Britain viewed as a rapidly rising competitor in being a world power. Lincoln made sure they at least stayed out of it by using the Emancipation Proclamation as he knew Britain wouldn't openly support a slave power. France also used the war as a distraction with the entire Maximillian fiasco in Mexico. They backed down when Phil Sheridan and thousands of battle tried veterans were sent to Texas in a show of force. (Albeit with lots of griping from the veterans who wanted to just go home.)

  • @ScarletRebel96
    @ScarletRebel96 5 лет назад +7

    The civil war what a time to be alive! May the the spirits of this nation and spirit of the south i love hold true and bright

    • @williamcarter1993
      @williamcarter1993 5 лет назад +5

      no. It wasn't a time to be alive for all the slaves, or all the people who ended up shot.
      Can we leave the old, slaveholding south in the rearview mirror please. that's nothing to emulate

    • @ScarletRebel96
      @ScarletRebel96 5 лет назад +5

      @@williamcarter1993 i disagreed with slavery personally im not a racist biggot , what i meant is my southern heritage i have pride for was all, the civil war was more then just that tho im srry if what i said came off that way ill be first to admit the sins of our past was fucked up but not every southerner agreed with the horrible concept

    • @sae136
      @sae136 4 года назад +1

      @Brian Welch Shermans war crimes simply made the confederacy fight even harder

    • @markzimmerman7279
      @markzimmerman7279 4 года назад

      @@ScarletRebel96 but some Yankees did.

    • @markzimmerman7279
      @markzimmerman7279 4 года назад +1

      @Stone Cold Steve Autism not to mention burning murder of civilians stealing .

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy 3 года назад

    Does anybody know if the Kentucky Rifle was used by any sharpshooter units ? The 45 caliber whitworth was the rifle of choice for long range sniper action , but they were hard to get. I’ve always wondered if anybody used a 45 caliber Kentucky rifle when whitworth wasn’t available. The faster and lighter 45 caliber is a big reason why whitworth rifles were so good. A 45 caliber Kentucky should be good long range rifle too.

    • @andrewvu1752
      @andrewvu1752 11 месяцев назад

      A longrifle has about the same accuracy as a rifle musket but takes longer to reload, so keep that in mind

  • @reddbehrens
    @reddbehrens 2 года назад

    The South always took whatever they could find on the battlefield. They routinely picked up Springfields and Enfields that had been left on the field. Yankee prisoners had their cartridge boxes and cap boxes taken from them.

  • @ComradeHellas
    @ComradeHellas 4 года назад

    Not bad

  • @Sturminfantrist
    @Sturminfantrist 4 года назад +2

    And in Europe the French intro. the Chasseport, the Prussians the Dreyse both needle Rifle fast loading Rifles much earlier, im dont understand why the americans rely on front loaders instead buying or license produce needle rifles.
    At least the Yanks introd. in late war fast firing Rifles like the Spencer

    • @JosipRadnik1
      @JosipRadnik1 4 года назад +2

      For the same reason that made the french adopt the paper cartridge firing Chassepot instead of skipping that step and go directly for something with a metallic cartridge as guns of that type became quite fashionable around 1865: ammunition supply
      Btw: the Chassepot was intorduced non earlier than 1866 - by that time the CSA were history and the USA went about to introduce the trapdoor Springfield that actually used a metallic cartridge.

    • @dominicvucic8654
      @dominicvucic8654 3 года назад +3

      We yanks had Henry's in 1860s and sharps problem with anything new it's expensive and old generals are unwilling to accept it the only reason why the army adopted the spencer was because they gave 1 to president lincoln

  • @ChodaStanks
    @ChodaStanks 4 года назад +1

    Didnt know they had combustible paper cartridges for muskets, the picture said sharps though

    • @JosipRadnik1
      @JosipRadnik1 4 года назад +1

      up to 1874 the sharps used combustible paper cartridges, and had to be capped manually (or in some cases with the rather unreliable maynard paper primer system) - as did many other early breech loaders like the Kammerlader, Greener, Wesley Richards, Star, Galagher, Burnside, Smith etc. other guns of the needle firing type like the Chassepot, Dreyse, Cacarno, etc also used combustible paper cartridges but with the primer included.

    • @ChodaStanks
      @ChodaStanks 4 года назад

      JosipRadnik1 I see, I was thinking they were talking about muzzleloader muskets, always forget the Sharps was also called a musket. But doesnt the 1874 Sharps use brass cartridge? I know the Chassepot uses flame resistant paper since the airspace behind the needle was intended to blow it out. The Dreyse is similar to the Chassepot but just uses untreated paper.

    • @ChodaStanks
      @ChodaStanks 4 года назад

      JosipRadnik1 still wondering has anyone ever tried combustible paper for muzzleloader muskets? Reloading would be faster

    • @JosipRadnik1
      @JosipRadnik1 4 года назад +1

      @@ChodaStanks
      you would use combustible paper for percussion revolvers like early Colts, Adams or the Remington Beals etc. On that type of weapon, it speeds up loading time quite a bit (but those were weapons that usually would not be reloaded while under direct fire as loading them is cumbersome under any circumstance). As for muzzle loading rifles/muskets it makes less sense since you don't gain much time by pushing down powder and projectile both in one package compared to tearing the cartridge open and pouring the powder down first and then aligning the projectile, with some of the paper sometimes used as wadding when using undersized round ball. On the other hand - there are quite some practical issues to get around with that concept: for one you need to find a way to pierce the bottom of the cartridge when settled in order to enable the flash from the ignited cap to reach the powder (the sharps for instance achieved this by cutting the bottom of the cartridge open with it's breech mechanism - therefor exposing the powder to the flash of the cap) - you might make the paper about as thin as the paper of the afore mentioned revolver cartridges (so the flash would go right through), but in regard to the much bigger size of the musket load that would probably make the cartridge to sensitive for frontline use. One other issue would be fouling, which would increase greatly and which was quite an issue back in the good old black powder days (I would have never believed how quickly one notices the balls going harder and harder down the pipe after just a few shots if I hadn't tried myself). So all in all think it just wasn't practical or wasn't worth the efford - I guess that's probably why it wasn't introduced.

    • @ChodaStanks
      @ChodaStanks 4 года назад

      JosipRadnik1 i see thanks. I was thinking the primer would be able to set off the combustable paper. I have a Sharps 1859 but havent shot it yet, forgot that the block cuts the paper off

  • @danm7298
    @danm7298 Год назад +1

    Watched 8 14 22

  • @rc59191
    @rc59191 4 года назад +1

    Wanna buy a good AR15 buy from Harpers Ferry.

  • @keinosmith874
    @keinosmith874 3 года назад

    The volume was to low...smt

  • @NKDuisburg02
    @NKDuisburg02 2 года назад

    Dont understand why your view count is so low