reMarkable vs Apple Pencil writing test
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2019
- Adam surprises Leif with the reMarkable tablet and asks him to do a quick writing test versus the Apple Pencil to see what he thinks of the 'paper like' experience.
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I've been using reMarkable for more than a year now. It's really great for note-taking and sketching. But it does come with its own set of problems. Takes ages to turn on. The battery doesn't last that long. Pencil tips wear one quickly. Not much else to do on the device. I recently bought an iPad Pro, and holy crap, why did I even bother with reMarkable for this long.
I ran into the same issue. Just wish I could have an e-ink screen built into the ipad lol.
athletejmv imagine if they made a special edition one like that for writers and readers that can still use Apple Music, Podcasts, Wikipedia, & Safari! That would be lit as heck !! I would buy it
allthingsbgi you can buy a screen protector for the ipad that imitates the feel of paper(like the remarkable). The only downside is the faster wear of tip of your pencil, which needs to be replaced every year
😂
What is the battery life on the ReMarkable?
The fact that you aren't going to get distracted by social media in remarkable really impressed me
Yohan Lobo Just turn off notifications or data on the iPad, then turn it on to watch this video during your break 🤷🏽♂️
Cynchronia exactly 🤣
@@Cynchronia r/woosh
Cynchronia preach
It sounds more like a nice marketing strategy on the missing features
it's extremely difficult to justify that price! does it do anything other than replacing your notebook?! not trolling, but at $200, I'd consider buying it, anything above that, you are better off with a refurbished iPad!
Doman
My kindle paper white replaces real physical books and is under $200, but does nothing else well besides that. So something that merely replaces a notebook and doesn’t do much else besides that should be under $200.
I totally agree with the above, max.200€, especially as it does not seem to do anything else! Plus I noticed they have to click pretty hard on the icons to make them respond. And if you pay close attention, you will notice the black ink is at moments very fuzzy, as if the screen prevents the ink from marking properly. You actually have to compare this product with a PaperLike screen protection on the iPad. Then the iPad also feels like paper and for only 29 additional bucks.
No need to think twice.
Youd better not trolling here. With Ipad OS Ipad gonna replace most of notebooks.
Directly at seeing this device I thought "lets look how much it cost and if it is about 200€ I will buy it" ... then I saw the 499€ price tag on their website and thought that must be the recommended retail price... looked on Amazon but no... sorry but 499€ is too much for that product. I really would like to use it but 200€ would be the correct price for me.
@@jackartatubeThe buttons actually respond to the lightest touch. What you see in the black ink is a feature of the digital brush used, the device detects the pencil flawlessly (except for the edge area where you sadly get distortions).
How about remarkable vs ipad and one of those paperlike screen protector.
I would appreciate more information of how it functions other than the pen to paper experience. How about info on going through folders / files about pages written. How do you scroll pages? How fast? Printing options - notes to printer? Etc......thanks.
reMarkable has its own foldering system that you can create on the tablet. You can absolutely print the pages you can export any note as a PDF, you just can’t print from the device itself. You can scroll through the pages with the physical buttons on the device, they also have swipe actions so you can swipe left and right on the pages, or you can press on the screen and you can see all the pages in a notebook in one screen and you can scroll from there.
Love this comparison I was looking for a video like this
I ran into a remarkable and it’s freaking brilliant.
Please make a review on how it performs pairing with a dekstop. Sending files between them. The speed of the software it self.
Thanks
I've had a reMarkable for about a year and a half, and it's been great for work. I just can't type out notes during meetings on my laptop very well. So, this to me is the best of both worlds: I can write notes but keep them electronically. I'll create a file in the remarkable for a recurring meeting series, and then I always have my notes available from previous meetings - it's all together. And then it syncs with the cloud and I can email them to myself or others if I need to share what I've written. I do wish the price would come down. A lot of people see how I use the reMarkable and want to investigate getting one, but they balk at the price. I got mine used on eBay, so it's possible to sometimes get them for a bit cheaper than the current MSRP/sale price.
Janel B is there a search feature to find notes?
Wouldn't you rather buy the iPad 6th gen + Apple Pencil for $400? Far more versatile!!
Depends on what you want to do with it for sure.
-Adam
@@macpublishing Yeah, this is a special use-case device. It's good for note-taking and quick sketches and reading, maybe better than anything else. But it's not something you can make a finished work of art on nor really watch movies (unless your fine with that weird, but kinda-cool effect of looking at multimedia content on a black and white E-ink display). I feel like it would be a supplemental device for most users. I'm sure the cost has a very heavy markup because of it's specific use-case limiting who would be interested in purchasing it, but I'd love to have one just to play around with or do light sketching, if it was only like $200, at most, stylus included (I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they could turn a profit per device at $200). Any higher than that, I'll just pass keep using the iPad Pro for everything.
I wish apple produce iPad with e-ink though!
Glass tho
Yes man! All the way!
Would love this as a monitor for coding. Or any text based work.
exactly and no more distractions
So it can take pen input at good rate but not touch input ?
i’ve been wanted a device for digital note taking since i’m going away to university in September. i was thinking of getting the new reMarkable coming out but after reading reviews maybe i’ll just get one of the bolder ipads and an apple pencil. Hmm i still wonder tho if i’m making the right choice...
Can you have him do this again and have the iPad with PaperLike screen protector for paper feel comparison?
Jason Ong remarkable is would be still better a better option for people in university or something. I am a aircraft engineer student and iI use it all the time.
I have paperlike on my iPad. Doesnt work well for me. Paperlike works nice for the first few hours then the oil from hands will fill the rough surface of paperlike.
Wi vieuw ahhh.
Half-Blind I wonder if their version 2.0 fixes this issue
I've used both. I actually got to try it when they where filming their commercial at my workplace :)
Remarkable feels better and it also have a bit "zen" to it. But I would go with the ipad any day. I often handwrite my notes in Nebo and convert it to text in a split second that I export.
I've also seen some Med students make some beutiful notes in GoodNotes and Notability.
with these things i always fear that feeling when the side of your hand rubs against the screen
Very impressive and informative review. Thanks guys...
$600?!! Get outta here!!!!
Trace Absence makes you think for just a writing dedicated device. 🤔
it is a harsh price point.. in contrast to just carrying a book around and actually drawing on paper. Unfortunately e-ink tech is the cost driver (i think).
Why are these things SO expensive????
@@hiranga Not specifically, the combination of eink and the tilt sensitive tablet does though. And it NEEDS to be tilt sensitive, else it won't be able to derive the touch point where the pen actually contacts the screen, without tilt it would read further up the shaft and not pick up any nuanced finger movement and would immediately feel wrong. This would likely make it a device that has to be priced above $150 even if it was sold at high quantities, but since very few people would pay even that much for a single-purpose device, this pushes the price higher and higher up, since you can't leverage economies of scale.
That's just an estimate on my part, i am an engineer and am familiar with costs of running a business and getting a hardware product out, and familiar with technologies involved out of personal interest, but i have no relationship with the company.
@@jedwardoo 499
Those are fantastic impressions
two different devices, I like the black and white work on an digital ink device (without lights behind). Seems to be a Minimal experience... but price is not so minimal! So I prefer to pay more in order to have much more.
Did you guys ever do a full review of the Remarkable?
I've got the reMarkable. Wouldn't trade it or sell it for anything, especially with the 2.0 upgrade in the last week.
whats different?
I take notes on the iPad Pro (2020 version) + Paperlike screen protector, and it works very well. One very important downside to the Remarkable is that you can’t highlight with colors. To me, that alone is already a reason not to buy the remarkable.
would have been nice to see a comparison of the input lag. That's extremely important I think if you want to replace pen and paper...
It is not noticable. I used it intensively for 6 months and loved that you could use it for two days straight intensive drawing sessions without charging.
I think I'd still rather see an iPad Pro with an OLED screen and textured glass & pencil to tip. I agree the feeling of writing on glass and lack of precision hold the iPad back but I appreciate the versatility on the color screen and flexible OS. Still glad that this thing exists and hope the company that makes it does well with it.
The price has dropped down to 499 and the refurbished version has been priced at 449.
Where’s the link to the full review?
This looks nice. Will definitely give it a go. Great video guys 👍🏼
Can we import pdf file or install external apps such as Kindle apps in reMarkable device? Thank you
Can you use your google calendar to write on and save in your file?
Is it laminated?
Does it offer coloured ink?
Love technology, but theres something about pencil to paper for that tactile feel, especially if your an artist and LOVED paper and pencils for many years. I can buy alot of pencils and paper for that cost.
If I don’t like ipad, just get galaxy note 10.1 with Wacom stylus . Or surface pro with stylus . Similar price but much more function ... however , iPad with paperlike screen protector , it is very close to paper
Version 2 is available for preorder and is only $400. Version 2 is supposedly much better than the already good version 1.
My program uses e-textbooks. Can I read and annotate my digital books on the Remarkable?
yes you can
Damn he's spazing out with that writing.
I purchased the Remarkable used off eBay and have found that I do not use it much as I thought. So I have now resold it.
I’ve been using the reMarkable as a replacement for a notebook for near 4 months. And it works well for me because:
1. I would ordinarily be going through many notebooks, where as this is multiple notebooks in one.
2. It writes pretty well, without any noticeable lag
3. Fresh tips do have a more resistant feel, but it’s never going to be like paper
4. For my use, I don’t need to sync notes - so all local content is good
5. I don’t need it to do anything else - my iPad does all the other stuff
6. Battery can last up to 3 days for me. I lose about 30% a day as I use it on and off. I sleep it when not using - effectively closing a notebook - rather than let it go into light sleep. I power off at end of day, though it powers off after half a day anyway. Battery use for what it does is not bad. We charge everything else every day, anyway, I don’t understand why folks complain about that part.
7. The display is super easy on the eye
8. It’s nice and light
I do think the price is higher than it could be, but for every recommendation buy, you get money back. If you were able to get around 6-8 people to buy, you’d have paid next to nothing. But... because of its niche-ness, it’s difficult to get others to literally buy into it.
Fundamentally, it’s a good paperless notebook. It functions as I need it to. The O/S updates are getting better, but the advancement is slower than I’d like. Sync to cloud is limited at the moment. But, lots of feedback, and more improvements in the works.
"I do think the price is higher than it could be, but for every recommendation buy, you get money back. If you were able to get around 6-8 people to buy, you’d have paid next to nothing. But... because of its niche-ness, it’s difficult to get others to literally buy into it. "
ohh, maybe that's why there's someone who's recommending me to buy one. and I was thinking of asking her why she could get one even at its exorbitant price!!!
It's like a pyramid scheme 💀
Hi,
Can you please tell me if reMarkable can convert hand writing to text?
Meaning if you write on it, can it then be converted to text on MS word?
I’d rather get a paperlike screen protector for my ipad. Thank you very much!
Unprepared ToDie yea it takes away the glare I think
@Unprepared ToDie Not the same e ink. I believe the remarkable would look like a kindle, very paper like but you can't compare that to the ipad, can you. If you don't mind sacrificing that feel, an ipad is so much better
@Unprepared ToDie If there was a colored version maybe. And even then it's price is ridiculous. Ipad is still great to sketch and take notes on.
@Unprepared ToDie I've heard really good things about wacom from professionals. And by the way they are planning to make a colored version of remarkable anyway, worth the wait
I am waiting for the day when I can actually do programming on E-Ink devices. Continuously staring at this blue light screen is pissing off.
There are screen protectors that filter blue light. You may want to investigate those. For example: www.amazon.com/Light-Screen-Protector-Ocushield-Apple/dp/B07ZBBLL9J
I've seen people on the ReMarkable subreddit doing that. You could also look into a Yoga laptop.
Why wasn't this tested with the Paperlike screen protector on the ipad?
It’s more like testing them right out of the box with no extra accessories.
I bought one (version 2) and I really look forward to receiving it. Unfortunately, since it's built on pre-orders, I'm in the November 8 batch. That's sort of painful, money is already in. But the specs are gorgeous.
Same!
so how do you like it now that you must have it?
@@alinayossimouse something good, something less good. More or less what I expected. It's quite hackable and I like that.
You really need to put a matte screen cover on the iPad if you are doing a lot of writing. Then, it feels much more like paper.
Considering it doesn't convert to text, and you really aren't interfacing with other apps, this seems to only have 2 advantages to my Levenger Notebook...1) You can have a backup copy? 2) You don't run out of paper. Hardly seems worth the price in my opinion.
I would LOVE if you could have Leif give us his impression of the Ratta Supernote... It looks to be a good competitor, however, the stylus is very much like a real pen, you honestly wouldn't be able to tell it's not except for what it's writing on. It uses a different screen and I would like to know which one feels better. I'm trying to decide between the two devices and it would be so enlightening to get the opinion of Leif who is a "writing expert" and cares about the details about how small you can write and considers it from the perspective of someone who truly writes a lot.
600 is toooo high i would rather give max 200 for it and i think rest will agree to me
I do. At most 250 or if I'm feeling too lucky then 300. No way more than that, unless they perfect their lag, and increase the sensitivity and make the tip of the marker more durable. If I'm shelling out THAT much money, I would want my device to work problem free for YEARS.
200 I would definitely give a try, I hope they can make it with A4 size screen.
Kindle oasis costs more than 200 easily.
@@dataexpunged6969 The Remarkable 2 is supposed to address the problems regarding lag and precision.
@@eleanor8652 yep yep. That's exactly why I'm thinking I'd wait for a couple of more generations and buy Remarkable 3 or 4,by then things would be much better
I'm in. Wil buy once i get the chance to.
Does text, whether typed or converted handwritten, follow the lines when a lined paper template is chosen?
no
I am looking for:
-sony dpt-rp1
Or
-remarkable 13.3
But used and cheap price suits me
like 300-400$
Can you show me a site where I find These types or someone who has these versions and sells them at this price (or you have) 300-400$
Is it easy to sync your notes to a cloud?Also sending by email/printing etc?
yes
Does it write in colour?
As someone who has used both the ReMarkable (my dad got one for my mom, but she lend it to me for Uni) and an IPad Pro 10.5 that I bought used from a friend (for 550 with 14 months of warranty left, killer deal, would not have done it otherwise)
The iPad is far more versatile for work since it is a full blown Tablet and, unlike the remarkable, actually emits light -> the remarkable is in true EInk and paper fashion - unusable without any external light source
The ReMarkable is 100 times better if you take notes and review tons of pdf files without the need to have a device that can easily connect to a browser and do EMails and stuff.....
The EInk display doesn’t put strain on the eyes during long sessions since there is no constant refresh rate and the writing is easier to see due to a very natural black, the writing experience is far superior if compared to a base IPad without screen protector (I never used a Matt display cover for the iPad since I can’t stand the feeling of that) and the pencil never runs out of battery life, lags or disconnects (my apple pen has a few hiccups now and then, especially when battery gets low)
The ReMarkable is also the way to go if you work outside for most of the time, the display is readable even in the brightest of sunlight, unlike the IPad, wich can get uncomfortably warm when in full sunlight (due to sunlight with 100% brightness and actual use of the device) -> this is actually a problem I am facing in Uni during the summer.....
The ReMarkable has a far greater battery life, especially when you are just reading and not editing stuff, I regularly got 3-4 full days out of it without recharging, and it is a lot lighter in the backpack (and easier to overlook when you don’t know what it is.... from a robbery perspective)
Even when writing, battery life exceeds the IPad by a lot, usually the IPad stands about 5-6h of heavy Notability use at 2/3 brightness before it needs a charge.
The IPad is, as said above, a far more versatile device that can (nearly) count as a full blown PC if all you do is write, do emails and read/ browse including the odd tour through Netflix now and then.
Writing experience and battery life are worse than the ReMarkable, but the options for writing are nearly infinite between Notability, Good Notes and Liquid Text. The handwriting conversion is more reliable and it is easier to actually sort subjects and written texts and forward them to other people.
BUT
To the (future) Students,... as much as it pains me to say
Before going to buy a laptop for Uni, go with the IPad. It is a better investment and it is worth every penny, especially when you can get a good deal on a used one (also Apple educational program when you are in the US, the price difference is a lot smaller in other countries)
Also, you might want to wait for the new Remarkable, maybe it has a better software that includes EMail and a limited browser, who knows, but that might change the game
i've been checking on and off if the prices dropped for remarkable but at this point i lost all hope to buy it, i'd rather get an ipad pro that can multitask if i had the money.
Apple just announced a new normal ipad with apple 2th gen pencil support for $320. Might be worth looking into
I like this guy
"Paperlike" & ELECOM screen protectors give you the same paper feeling on any iPad screen, for just a couple of bucks.
tbh this is a great alternative to paper and when this become popular i bet the price will lower down.
I love it worth the money and the new model is cheaper.
Check out Onyx Note Pro 10.3”. With backlight and great note writing. And superior ebook reader. Much better.
Can I set the background to graphing paper? With either the iPad or remarkable?
You can with both.
Does anyone know if Apple Pencil works on remarkable 2?
I'm a big fan of eliminating distractions!
is that Sean Tucker's voice in the VO?
I wish to buy ipad pro 2 and 1st gen pencil solely for purposes of writing notes but if it is going to be too clicky n irritatingly noisy then might need to rethink...
Sukh Qazmi it is not, i have the setup you want to buy and using it for almost 2 years. It dors that kind of soubd the first week when you are too violent using it, after you learn the correct force and distances and you will not make that sound anymore
I think an adaptation with Microsoft Office would be the best. The possibility of modifying documents from this tablet.
You didn't test the tablet's ability to convert written text to typed text?!?!?
@Yolo 2.0 Yes, definitely a device professionals can appreciate. I use it for construction drawings/estimates/sketches/notes - very intuitive - more I use it, the more I like it. About only major downside is low-light usage - but works fantastic in full sunlight (perfect when out at the jobsite) which makes all my other devices all-but useless. Battery life could be better, but not a huge deal. Needs a magnetic pen holder or some sort of aftermarket gizmo.
At first i thought the iPad is the remarkable and then he brought the box then i said whaaaa? Then i realized the paper like device was the iPad 😂😂😂
Waiting for the full review. Do you guys think, will it be worth getting a remarkable and an iPad air 3 together. Or will it be a waste of money?
iPad Air3 and reMarkable, you are looking at $1100. just get an iPad pro 11"+Apple Pencil+ Smart folio keyboard+ paperlike screen protector for $1134!
@@doman9891 That is truee.. i just have one question, does the paperlike screen protector make a huge impact? Thanks again.
@@mrafayshams3089 I don't know if paperlike is the cheapest or even THE BEST option, i haven't tried everything on the market, but what i can tell you is, YES, it makes a huge difference, makes writing much more fun and much more consistent and like i said (maybe not here) it also sounds like a pencil on paper. In a quiet room you may catch some people surprised by it, when they see you are writing on an iPad 😉
@@doman9891 Perfect, Thanks a lot! 😀
Rafay Shams imo, the Paperlike is a bit overpriced. I’m currently using the TechArmour one and it’s AMAZING. It includes two films, an alcohol wipe, and this sticker thingy that you can use to readjust the protector and remove dust. Their service is really nice, and the installation video was straightforward and clear. So up to ya.
Dear Santa, I'm tired of collecting paper after paper... I've got too many papers..
Is it good at "translating" handwriting into a typed document?
yes
I take tons of notes.
I would totally buy reMarkable.
For $300.
price has dropped dramatically now, check their website
What about the app ecosystem? Surely that is important as well. Just the pencil won’t do a good enough job if there aren’t good note taking apps to utilise it well. Thinking of it in those terms make the iPad a better choice.
the built in note taking app is excellent
Do you have any colors on the Remarkable ?
Remarkable price indeed
What's interesting is that I actually prefer the feel of writing on the Ipad over paper. As soon as I'm done with undgergrad studies I'll buy one. It's also super nice for drawing and I hope it can replace my laptop in some situations.
LOL. No effin way I'm spending that much for a bEtTeR writing feel 🤣🤣
I was bummed when the Echo pen was discontinued. Actually writing on paper, download that actual writing PLUS audio to a file on your pc; it was the best of both/all worlds. Can't understand why such a brilliant product went out of production.
... and I just received my new Echo 2. Back in production. I am a happy man.
Saw an ad of this and go excited, but $500+? No way to justify that when and iPad can do so much more. If this $150 or $200 MAX. I would consider
that’s pretty cool 😎
$150 is the highest I would pay. Bought my iPad Air 3 with Pencil for $600. And right now I am watching this video on it. And I can write on it. And I can draw with colors on it. And I can do some serious stuff on this like writing Texts in Microsoft word. And I can read books on it. And I can watch movies on it. I can even play games on it. So I really don’t see the point of buying this. The experience of writing on the iPad glass is actually not so bad. I got used to it after a few days.
Talha탈하 very true
apart from price, this is amazing. it looks like a screen emitting zero light, hence it's very close to writing on paper. Do we have a name for these type of display?
300$ is a good price to pay for this
It's an e-ink display. They mention it a few times..
I'm seeing the door being opened for dedicated E Ink sketchpads and styluses for less $
I was expecting a price tag of about $200, but when he said 3x that price...I was like whoah!!!!!! for a tablet with uni-function..I don't think so
Funny how this seems to be the price tag everyone is expecting for this device. I was immediately expecting it to cost 200€ and as I read in the comments, most people seem to have expected a price tag of 200€. If really wonder if the reMarkable is a ripp off.
Could I record the screen while I'm writing on it!!?
No
@@sanketvarade514 thanks for answering
How much is a pencil iPad tablet
Can it run OneNote?
no... it only works with pdfs... all you can do with it is read and write in pdfs...
You can get real paper, not something like paper for hundred times cheaper 😂
How about getting an iPad and use a blank sheet of paper as a screen protector. Yeah, you may loose all the digital features, but it would totally feel just like writing on paper. Beause..., well, you actually would be writing on paper. 😂
The moment these people enable Remarkable to read music scores and kindle stories I'M BUYING IT! I just know that I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DEVICE FOR ME. I'm just waiting for them to sort out their tech and logistical issues. oh also they NEED to add colours! I love that this device depends on a light source to enable reading and writing because it protects my eyes like nothing else. Come ONNNN remarkable ! Make me happy!!
When will it be launched in INDIA ?
page turn lag is a deal breaker. it needa to be instant .
Verdict?
I just got mine. The only thing I was is if it had the option for color. Everything is black.and white.
The third of fourth iteration of this thing will be great. Imagine colour screen that feels like paper, long battery life, and the ability to run Windows/Mac Apps? That'll be it. Groundbreaking for education. They will get bought forsure. Going to keep an eye out for this product in the future
Adam and Leif .. ;o)))
What if you want to print or export some of the things that you wrote?
And, how many pages can you write?
and can you create book notes?
Yeah, I’m asking myself the same thing. Would be nice if it syncs with your computer or iPad.
Yes it syncs to you computer and cellphone. You can also email your work. But if you want better is the likebook mimas it is android. But the remarkable feels more like paper.
Yes, there is an app for mobile and desktop which syncs automatically. You can get the files easily off there.
-Adam
I wanted some actual honest opinions on it. I felt you were pulling some punches but....
Then i realized the actual review is coming later lol. Ok will wait for that
now try it with an Paperlike screen protector made by the company Paperlike
For me its the best tool I've ever had, for those who work with paper every day, the price is cheap.
Well, it is not certainly cheap, but I think it is justified. Im getting one for myself :)
..... dont do that... you can throw your money away but dont spread stupidity. The remarkable costs atleats 400 more htan it should. Its a pdf reader and overwriter with a textures screen.... IPads can fee like that with certain scrren protectors and they still play media and do infinite more stuff ( for basicaly the same price).
While innovative, it costs too much for the whole package to be a solution for my needs.
Price now $299 in bundle
$600...? Remarkable LOL!!!
The idea is very good, and it's definitely good for avoiding using of throwing paper.
I can see future generations using this at school instead of paper. It's worth than using a laptop or anything else for your eyes health.
But i hink the price for the product is too expensive. In my personal opinion.
The idea of it still bagging !!