ZiiGaat x Jays Audio ESTRELLA - 2DD + 4BA Superstar MOD Review

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024

Комментарии • 83

  • @jayyaudio
    @jayyaudio Месяц назад +42

    Thanks for the in-depth review Paul!!

  • @thomaskuhn6541
    @thomaskuhn6541 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks, always enjoy your detailed observations on how adjustments to different frequency ranges effect the overall sound of an iem.

  • @MrDomq22
    @MrDomq22 Месяц назад +2

    Intereting take, Paul. Thanks for sharing. I def prefer the stock tuning my self as I feel like it's more dynamic but the tape mod definitely delivers the goods when it comes to presenting the vocals.

  • @JohnClarkW
    @JohnClarkW Месяц назад +2

    I am looking forward to checking these out myself. The Doscinco is one of my favorites, and Ziigaat is making some pretty good sets right now. Jay is the one that got me to keep micropore tape at my desk, so it seems fitting that you are tape modding his sets.

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      I don't know how fitting it is, seems like people didn't like the idea of taming the bass.

  • @blinkblik6924
    @blinkblik6924 Месяц назад +3

    Lets gooo 🎉. Was curious to see your review on this.

  • @moonsofjupiter
    @moonsofjupiter Месяц назад +6

    Waiting for mine to arrive. Glad to see you cover it but keep that tape away from my Estrellas. Bass is almost identical to Doscincos and those have among the best bass I’ve heard. waiting for Ziigaat to evolve the Doscincos>Estrella> to a 2DD 2BA 2EST version with a price under $500 that will really make an impact

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +3

      That is fair. As I said, I went back and forth in EQ on the subbass. There is a very fun side to it that isn't hard to like.

  • @gdot_flock
    @gdot_flock 23 дня назад +1

    straight droppin' knowledge..! i luv your style...i feel like i learned a lot, which is always good...thanks paul..!

  • @christiharris292
    @christiharris292 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent review. I'd been waiting to pull the trigger and I think your review, with the micropore tape mod and the EQ tuning suggestions pushed me over the edge. As usual thanks for putting so much into these reviews 👍

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      Yep, go down the list, stock, Jay's tape, micropore, EQ. People are getting slightly annoyed I lowered the bass but it was to make the mids and bass better.

  • @gadgetgenerationspulkit
    @gadgetgenerationspulkit Месяц назад +2

    You have done a well detailed analysis bro

  • @TOM7952
    @TOM7952 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks I was waiting on your review.

  • @deadline7610
    @deadline7610 Месяц назад

    Nicely Done.
    Glad you were able to get them in for review.

  • @Sonofholhorse
    @Sonofholhorse Месяц назад

    Great review and analysis, thanks as always Paul!

  • @fiddlix
    @fiddlix Месяц назад

    Great review Paul. I’m saving my coin for SBDM.

  • @ReverendDr.Thomas
    @ReverendDr.Thomas Месяц назад +1

    Paul, thank you for another wonderful earphone review! 👌
    Reverend Dr. Thomas,
    ✝️ The Vegan Vicar 🌱

  • @deltazero6
    @deltazero6 Месяц назад

    When Paul Wasabi drops a Mando quote... YUP, time to PTT😂! Excellent review, nice touch with MP-mod, 👏 BZ 👏!

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      Lol. I just hope people experiment with it.

  • @chinmayrasam
    @chinmayrasam Месяц назад +3

    Awesome review. Nobody was explaining the tape mod in such detail.
    What about drivability? Which protable amps/daps are the best?

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +1

      It is super easy to drive and I will almost guarantee you lower the volume from what ever set you are using now. I should have mentioned it, but it is very sensitive.

    • @chinmayrasam
      @chinmayrasam Месяц назад

      @@PaulWasabii thanks. Which sources have you tested. Is there any difference in sound quality across them?

  • @leopotim862
    @leopotim862 Месяц назад +2

    Legal! 😮

  • @EricJorgensen1
    @EricJorgensen1 Месяц назад

    thanks

  • @apollomoonlandings
    @apollomoonlandings Месяц назад

    The Harman target becomes a no-fly zone. I think that you perfectly described the Harman target for me.

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      You can justify it with there is more bass and not noticeable, but it is always noticeable for people who turn the volume knob.

  • @Mixail747
    @Mixail747 Месяц назад +3

    So Knowles and Sonion drivers are worth the hype? Not just a marketing bait?

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +1

      I have heard them both ways. I would say they aren't a guarantee of a great set, but when implemented well, will sound different from other sets. Coming from someone who spends too much time listening to IEMs. Its often an expensive jump to Knowles/Sonions so you are paying quite a bit for something that not everyone might notice.

  • @kr33k00
    @kr33k00 Месяц назад

  • @m_yy_m
    @m_yy_m Месяц назад +2

    Great set and review! Is the Hydro far behind in technicalities to the Estrella?

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +2

      Raw techs, not far. Tonality of Sonions and Knowles is the missing piece.

    • @m_yy_m
      @m_yy_m Месяц назад

      Thanks 👌

  • @paulosilva8200
    @paulosilva8200 Месяц назад

    Every time I try to cover a vent and then I go gym and blast the iem. The sweat and the cover vent creates the driver to flex a lot

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      I even notice it in the summer, not sweating at the gym. Just a bit of moisture in your ear. Another reason to use micropore and not clear tape.

    • @paulosilva8200
      @paulosilva8200 Месяц назад

      @PaulWasabii agreed. There is paper round filters with stickers that they sell in ali express with 1mm or 2mm size. Paper filters for this vents

  • @urry7162
    @urry7162 11 дней назад

    If there is an equalizer, which Jay still recommends to correct the sound at the end, why stick all sorts of crap to the headphones instead of using the equalizer right away? What a wild idea 🤯

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  8 дней назад

      Good question, mostly for convenience. Some people will be fine with Jay's tape mod, my micropore, or Michael Bruce's tuning filter. If you try those and they don't work, then yeah, just use EQ. I use micropore a lot since it takes 10 secs, but I also EQ.

  • @xeruskun
    @xeruskun Месяц назад +3

    Paul Wasabii collab when?

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +2

      Not sure when, but I like the parts Jay used

  • @Shahkhan-uz6xx
    @Shahkhan-uz6xx 8 дней назад

    good review...the graph of Supermix 4 resembles Estrella...does the sound is also similar on both??confused, whether the extra 150 bucks worth it?plz reply

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  4 дня назад

      They really aren't similar and perhaps Jay did that intentionally. The bass is very different and if you like a ton of bass, then its Estrella. Also SM4 is leaner in the lower mids, midbass, and over energetic in the upper mid so if you just care about female vocals, that is the SM4 style. Jay tried to fill in the mids so more bass presence and fuller mids. Two different styles.

  • @JosephFlemming
    @JosephFlemming Месяц назад

    I HIGHLY doubt if I get these I'll be reducing bass lol. I like bass as long as it doesn't sound muddy.

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +1

      I think most people will be in your position. As I said, I am kinda picky on hybrid DD, there is a level which most are good, but beyond that, I start to notice it when I should not.

  • @joshuasantoso556
    @joshuasantoso556 Месяц назад +3

    would you have your collab?

  • @calvinyip364
    @calvinyip364 Месяц назад +2

    Do painter tape work for the tape mod?

    • @helifan2346
      @helifan2346 Месяц назад

      As Paul mentioned
      The tape he uses, breathe

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +1

      Painter will work but similar to Jay's tape mod curve, I am not sure there will be any airflow.

  • @waycooldlr
    @waycooldlr Месяц назад

    Love your reviews :)
    I have 3 iems Aful P5, Letshuoer S12 and the Simgot EA500LM no foam brass nozzles (thank you) I am considering the Ziigaat Estrella.
    The sound stage of the EA500LM with your mod suggestion is magical will the Estrella match the 3d like sound stage of the EA500LM?
    The soundstage of the LM is by far better than the others that I have.

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  29 дней назад

      That is a maybe. Jay put a lot of upper treble energy into it and that is more of a ymmv. SIMGOT tends to not do that as much. I know one reviewer said it sounds artificially wide. It does stage well, but that upper treble is really an unknown how you will perceive it. Maybe foam tips if it bothers you. It will sound more resolving, but I am not a huge fan of that much energy out there at 16k-ish

    • @waycooldlr
      @waycooldlr 29 дней назад

      @@PaulWasabii Wow thanks for the quick response. I won't buy them tomorrow but I won't be spending much more and the Estrella seems to be at the top of my list. Maybe as a XMas gift to my self :) I did live with and enjoy the 6 year old BGVP DMG's until I got my hands on the S12s. Amazing how much improvement has been made and seems to be accelerating.

    • @waycooldlr
      @waycooldlr 11 дней назад

      @@PaulWasabii Well I took a chance and got them. Just arrived 15 min ago and they may be perfect !! I am 63 so the 16k-ish is not a problem at all I may try the tape mod to lower the sub bass a bit. Even the tips work well in my ears :) The $10 cable wont be sticking around but I don't mind. I got them for $272 and couldn't''t be happier. :)

  • @h1a8
    @h1a8 Месяц назад

    Great review! Do you have a Link to the micropore tape you used (that specific kind)?
    And how does the micropore tape mod compare to the oracle mk3 (imaging, resolution, soundstage, and detail)?

    • @wahid-lg1kk
      @wahid-lg1kk Месяц назад

      3m micropore tape

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      Yes, it is 3M micropore tape. I think that is their trademark branding. When you are looking at EST sets like Oracle and Variations, those are technically better. I haven't heard Oracle, but with Variations, there really isn't anything lower than its price that will beat it on treble. Tribrids cost more, but worth it if you have to have the best. If you have Oracle money, you buy Oracle.

    • @h1a8
      @h1a8 Месяц назад

      @@PaulWasabii Thank you. I wasn't impressed by the Mega5Est tech ability. Was only slightly better than my Hyoe 4 in details and resolution. I was thinking the pilgrim would be better in tech over the oracle mk3 but idk.

  • @larrydunn4626
    @larrydunn4626 Месяц назад +1

    Paul, was your source gear mostly desktop with highish output impedence?

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +1

      Nah, desktop near zero impedance. I had measured it with 10hm and that wasn't better. If it had tilted the treble down instead of up, that would have been almost perfect.

  • @eloy5808
    @eloy5808 Месяц назад +2

    Oh 3rd?

  • @GGG-bp2xr
    @GGG-bp2xr 25 дней назад

    What is a Tape mod? And a micropore? And how do u change the tuning. Didn’t know you could do that. I just got into IEM community and tryna learn, and pull the trigger to purchase some good iems.

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  23 дня назад +1

      Micropore tape is basically 3M medical tape, very porous. Micropore is their brand name. On the side of Estrella is a colored vent hole, if you put clear tape or a porous tape like micropore, it will restrict the airflow to the driver and lower the bass level.

    • @GGG-bp2xr
      @GGG-bp2xr 23 дня назад

      @@PaulWasabii thanks man that really helped explain what it is and does, great video btw 👍🏽💪🏽

  • @brunis_m
    @brunis_m Месяц назад

    Dunu SA6 MKII user here. Would these trade blows or sound "more expensive"?

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      They are radically more energetic at both ends than SA6 MK2. That is a tough one as they are so different and if you are really into the mids on SA6, Estrella is quite different.

  • @amanieux
    @amanieux Месяц назад

    vs similarly priced hype2 ? thanks

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      Part of my issue there is how the bass is handled and stage on Hype 2. For me its a better match until I EQ Estrella. You can see it on the graphs, Estrella boosts the treble which is a nice more resolving point, but it messes with other things I pointed out. I haven't heard Hype 4, but I imagine it is closer to that with the BAs Jay chose. As I said, I am kinda picky about hybrid DDs and a bit of what I talked about, Hype has a hard hitter DD and the vent some subs so it sounds less dense, don't need as much boost. Also why I tried to flatten the V on Estrella and what you see on Tea Pro.

    • @amanieux
      @amanieux Месяц назад

      @@PaulWasabii by the way, have you tried boosting mid bass on hype2 ? it improves a lot the soundstage and add warmth and grit to male vocals at the cost of female vocals sounding less clear. i tried tape mod on hype2 and it kills too much bass for my taste

  • @AliR03
    @AliR03 Месяц назад

    Can you rank these in terms of tech plz ?
    Estrella tape / dusk / pilgrim

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад

      Dusk EQ, Estrella tape, Pilgrim. One thing to note and I think Jay would say this, the treble extension on Estrella is way out there, if you consider that more resolving, than Estrella might be better for you.

    • @AliR03
      @AliR03 Месяц назад +1

      @@PaulWasabii
      Great, can you do a video comparing the popular 300-400 IEMS ? This will help us to understand the drivers' quality and different presentations for each one

  • @Goose87803
    @Goose87803 Месяц назад

    How much is this set?

  • @snailjob09
    @snailjob09 Месяц назад +4

    Three big Bens and I have to put a piece of tape on it..uhh no way son

    • @moonsofjupiter
      @moonsofjupiter Месяц назад +8

      You don’t have to at all. Not if you like dat Bass. Tape mod is equivalent to a breast reduction. No thx. Leave those Double DD’s alone

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +2

      As the previous comment said, not required but I prefer it with less.

  • @uglyfate1326
    @uglyfate1326 Месяц назад +4

    Must disagree about mod tuning. The reality is that Jay clearly understand, without that bass heavy tuning it won't be that competitive even for 300$. Cuz most customers just buy Davinci or Dynaquattro instead.

    • @brownwallet942
      @brownwallet942 Месяц назад

      Nah. This is more appealing to me than Davinci and Dynaquattro. I would have preordered Davinci if I was on a lookout for a good IEM a few months ago. I lost interest of it when I preordered Deuce, but when Estrella came, I was hyped and also preordered this.

    • @PaulWasabii
      @PaulWasabii  Месяц назад +1

      Oh I think most people would disagree and I have no problem with that. What most people don't realize is that micropore didn't lower it that much, just so it stayed primarily under the mids and reshaped it to bring out the impact which others mentioned while keeping subbass extension without the boom.

  • @CJ-usa
    @CJ-usa Месяц назад

    So many new sets i want 😢