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I recently added a Tanya filter since I'm on a mod kick and it also sounds good. Not sore which I like more.

Negative, you have the best driver. If you want a cheaper backup or travel planar maybe, but no need to pick up PRX in your case.

A lot of people ended up EQ'ing the PR1 Pro to lower the treble, that is mostly the change in PRX. If you are fine with PR1 Pro as-is, no real need for PRX unless you lose PR1.

You fall in the looking for something different category as you tried S12. I would say enjoy P1Max and keep watching, I suspect there will be more planars trying different tunings as that is the area for growth.

I never heard T10 but I suspect it uses S12 driver or close to it so no need to rush into PRX. The staging on PRX is actually quite good and better than some of the S12 units with the lowered treble. As I said, you need to be mindful of sources that emphasize upper mids as that will flatten a planar, a source light on bass will flatten it. Planars have enough treble air to sound big, it is usually trying to get the depth that is harder and PRX does that as long as your source pairing is right.

Yep, T10 is a nice set

I wouldn't jump to PRX unless you have a nice dongle. The problem is there isn't a direct upgrade from ZS10 Pro X, there is different. So ZS10 Pro 2 is a more modern, refined, less treble version with switches so you can adjust the bass. The ZS12 is different. but it looks cool with all metal build. ZS10 Pro X is a bit older, the newer sets don't sound the same and might just sound like sidegrades.

@@PaulWasabii Thx man, appreciate it, which dongle should i try?

S08 is a different sound, bassy, really warm, less technical. For people who like warm, thicker sound, it does that but that is different than S12 and PRX. S08 is tough, it is targeting people who like DD sets with that sound, not really planar fans.

I am at one end of the sources, flat/uncolored and using wide bore tips. Slightly warm source, different tips will be a step in the other direction. I also EQ the bass +3db if I want more body or more for hiphop/EDM. Planars in general need some body, it just helps counter the planar timbre.

Yes, that bass shelf hasn't changed much, S12 is similar. Someone decided that sounds right, but planars can handle a lot more as I said and KZ should add more.

Some kinda blue wrapping material but yeah, blue always sounds better.

Easy bro easyyy get the PRX

Sweet, that looks like a step up. The idea is right on though, I would have just swapped the 6N2 on that unit. I'd bet the 26s 6n8p is better.

You are right, the previous sets were either good for the price or good for some people, but mostly needed better tuning or EQ. PRX tries to hit both, high driver quality and tuned better.

EW300 are nice, enjoy them for a while before chasing the next shiny new thing

Maybe, but I am still curious what others will say. I am not planar blinded, but I do like planar sets very much because they can hit techs that you can't get at the same price points with anything but planar. And if you happen to have a nice dongle or dac/amp, nice to have a set that shows off those as well.

I think both are nice sets. I am a planar fan so I don't care which, but I would like people to have a chance to hear a planar. KZ happened to put them out a lower price points. T10 is probably using S12 driver or something close to it. I have more confidence in T10 than F1 Pro which people also said was like an S12.

I never heard any Moondrop tws. I'd say if bass or a lot of bass is in your preference, that is Carol. If you like less bass or have other Moondrop sets, then that will be a better choice.

@@PaulWasabii Thanks for the response, Paul. Appreciate your help !

It's 54-55USD on Linsoul :(

Truly they are undercutting the price hard. Nothing can come close to the price level.

OK, that is kinda crazy.

in the video he said it is 1/9 1/10 to letshuoer s12 2024

I never heard the T10 so I have no idea if they did a decent job. If that is a clone of S12, that you can go either way. Go with the cheaper one or wait until the 11-11 sales and see which is cheaper. As I said, planars tend to have the same characteristics, just slightly different tuning.

Its a good back up and some chance it appeals more to you. Its not a clone of S12, so there is still a different flavor to it. You have S12, wait until the 11-11 sales and see the PRX drops.

@@PaulWasabii ya waiting for 11.11 to buy lotsa stuff :D

It is as the treble tuning is better and it has the improvements from PR2 & PR3. PR1 Pro was nice though. If you EQ it, you are part of the way to PRX. That was the reality of most of the PR models, a lot of people were simply EQ'ing to a tuning close to PRX.

​ @PaulWasabii So if i have a PR1 that i'm happily EQing to my liking does the prx do anything better? Is the driver any more capable technically?

Nope, that is a nice set as well, but slightly warmer tuning. That is like asking about S12 and MP145 too, did you waste your money on mp145 instead of S12, no they are different. Some people can't deal with the shells on MP145 so they might prefer PRX.

@@PaulWasabii why your data not in sound meow?

What most people don't know, KZ doesn't send out many review sets, Linsoul sends out some, but generally it is not like it was a few years ago. KZ trusts a smaller group to not love everything, but be fair. And yes, planars are cool, whether you pick up PRX or another brand.

My suspicion is both Saga and PRX have inspirations, not accidental. With PRX, maybe part feedback, maybe inspiration from S12 2024 or the S12 treble trend. I think they waited until the tuning and new damper mechanisms were solid. Also I could be 100% wrong.

The KZ Symphony was a poor attempt at what I’m hoping to get from a planar set lol. s12 is close but it’s slightly warm which is not normally my preference.

I see you think the s12 2024 is the best lol…. I should listen to it more but so far I think I might be someone who likes hybrids better. The Pula PA02 Is like TOTL level for me

You are part of the group who may always prefer DD+BA as I said. Nothing wrong with that, we all have preferences. If you prefer Pula, you are probably also into timbre priority which is harder on planars which are about speed and resolve.

My issue with flatout upgrading PR2 is that some had higher treble than others. The lower ones might sound more like PRX. I still think PRX is better but if you aren't using PR2 often, no need to upgrade. The hydro shape is slightly different from AS series, but both are similarly large compared to other KZ shells. If I was itching to buy a planar, I'd wait for 11-11 sales and see if PRX drops or any of those drop. S08 is cool, I just loosened the foam on it so it sounds more open.

That's a very good idea. Thanks 🙏

I am not sure that will happen. Its kinda like S12 2024, until they find a better driver, incremental improvements. PRX is like that, its about as good as they can get with this driver. So they would need to re-visit Symphony or something different. Add switches or something else. Both companies are dependent on improving the driver itself now which has been hard to do.

@@PaulWasabii their motivation to keep (or at least to) improving their products is highly appreciated. in the end, we the consumers are the one who also will get the benefit(s).

​@@PaulWasabiiI think that the next logical step for tuning the planar would be to add switches on them. If the driver is at the edge of what they can physically do for tuning, switches could be great options to add some bass, reduce treble, or something like that (like on zs10pro 2)

Yep, they botched the PR2. It was the right idea and why it is back on PRX.

Yep, planar on desktop amps is a step up as you are matching a source to what the driver can do. Its fine on a dongle but not the same as a desktop.

Yes, after PR3 and Symphony, I wasn't sure what was going to happen. They needed to step back and tune it differently.

@@PaulWasabii I still think the Symphony was their best-looking metal shell to date. Unfortunately it was too aggressive of a tune. Really could have used some tuning switches to lower bass and treble haha

Thank you planar bass fan. I have a heard a few planars and the bass presentation might not be for DD diehards, but I do love the levels it can handle under the mids.

​@@PaulWasabiiI mean I love the slam it's capable of for metal because that's really all I listen to. I like dds but planars are just better with metal since they can handle the speed and the craziness of metal. I have a bunch of hybrids and none of them play as good as the Supermoon.

OK so you didn't EQ, but foam in the nozzle on PR3 is a step or two towards PRX. It will sound familiar to you with that setup.

Nope, the new one looks great though. I have an RSV so don't really need the 4.

My favorite planar set is my Campfire Audio Supermoon. Probably the best iem I've heard and I have a few.

Yes, a hand tuned S12 is a different animal.

S12 hmm very good but those prx are better

i thought he said PRX is meant for those who do NOT want to deal with modding.

Probably not, you are close as the treble reduction is there in PRX. If you want to nitpick it, treble reduction without foam tends to retain more resolve so yeah, there is probably an incremental upgrade in PRX. If I were you, just watch it during the 11-11 sales and see if you can get one at a decent discount. No need to jump in to it today at full price.

I have pr 2 with mode for treble peaks ...PrX is better bro better mids amd highs and more texturing at bass

I was going to say that but did not. The issue is the nozzle piece too, they would be back at PR2 mess. We'll see how more sets appear on squig too. It is tough to get matching planar graphs but they should be more consistent than any of the previous PR sets.

​@@PaulWasabiia shift toward more consistency would be a very welcomed change in the planar ecosystem.

Probably for another 5 years

If it ain't a collaboration they'll keep it forever.

8khz peak is a myth

8k is a measurement artifact used for alignment.

Shout comes from excess ~ 1.2khz to 4khz, and even if the 8khz peak is real, it's narrow and the magnitude isn't too high and should not be that bothersome when listening to music