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Jimmy Butler and Tyler Herro Have the Most to Prove for the Miami Heat Next Season

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024

Комментарии • 129

  • @Kosher93
    @Kosher93 Месяц назад +6

    Tyler Herro is the most coddled role player in the NBA

  • @PointJovic
    @PointJovic Месяц назад +3

    Bam developing a dribble drive game is INFINITELY more interesting to me than him shooting 3s, even though they are connected. I kind of only care about the 3s as a step for him to attract close outs for him to attack.

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      @PointJovic , Just imagine if Bam was actually athletic enough to just dunk the ball more often, like Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Shawn Kemp, Dwight Howard, Giannis. His ceiling and the Heat's ceiling would be much greater if he could figure out a way to get more easy baskets in the paint.
      IMO, Bam should've skipped the Olympics because he already has a gold medal and went down to Houston for the entire summer to work with Hakeem on his footwork and post moves. If Bam's the new franchise player by default, then he needs to elevate his offensive game
      Defense wins championships, but offense wins games. So, Bam needs to elevate his offense to help the Heat win more games to be in a better position to win a championship with his good defense

  • @j.robinsonalexis3858
    @j.robinsonalexis3858 Месяц назад +36

    Wes, I am sorry, but your takes on Jimmy lack objectivity. Jimmy has nothing to prove. The one with the most to prove is Tyler, at number one.

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      Yep, all Jimmy has to do now is stay Blk and die. He's set financially for life, and his basketball legacy is secured.

    • @Blazenetwork1990
      @Blazenetwork1990 Месяц назад +7

      Wes has been a hater for months now I’m so tired of him

    • @Blazenetwork1990
      @Blazenetwork1990 Месяц назад +7

      I just find it so crazy when he expect so much out of one player when he don’t have another star on the team to take the load off him most teams have 2 stars the heat don’t

    • @Mac2Mon
      @Mac2Mon Месяц назад +12

      Tyler & Bam. Jimmy did his part. Neither Bam nor Tyler have done anything other than have 1 great postseason game, while Jimmy has had many

    • @brianjalonen1635
      @brianjalonen1635 Месяц назад +4

      The reason Jimmy has the most to prove is he is the one with the loudest mouth in the NBA that has never won a ring. Herro SUCKS and everyone already knows that. Jimmy is now old and injury prone and needs to keep his mouth shut, just like Pat said, until he can play a great full season and playoffs and help lead this team with Bam to a ring.

  • @big_vic305
    @big_vic305 Месяц назад +3

    Finally a video of Heat talking heads being honest 🎉👏🏼

  • @larryburney8154
    @larryburney8154 Месяц назад +9

    Nobody has nothing to prove but Tyler hero that’s why he needs to come off the bench if not trade him

    • @Mac2Mon
      @Mac2Mon Месяц назад +2

      Bam has more to prove. Jimmy could be off the Heat by the end of next season. It will become Bam’s team; it was never supposed to be Tyler’s team, and if Bam doesn’t take a huge leap the future is bleak with him being a max contract in the new CBA

    • @big_vic305
      @big_vic305 Месяц назад

      You obviously don’t know ball Jimmy is supposed to be the #1 all star player he wants to get paid like one yet last season he was horrible and not to mention he’s going on 35 herro on the other hand is a young 3rd option as long as he’s healthy he’ll be ok

    • @knowledgeseeker1528
      @knowledgeseeker1528 Месяц назад +2

      @@Mac2MonThis exactly, people always give bam a pass.

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад +2

      @knowledgeseeker1528 , Yep, people don't hold Bam more accountable because deep down, they know he's not capable of doing more. So instinctively, they don't have higher expectations for him like they do Jimmy, who's already proven he can carry a team and elevate his play in the playoffs
      To many Heat fans, Bam is all the Heat definitely have for the future, and if they were to tell the truth about him, they would be less enthusiastic about the team's future

  • @Taino727
    @Taino727 Месяц назад +5

    I need Spo to quick tinkering with lineups. Find the best 5 and stick with it the best teams even before the season starts know who there best starting 5 is

  • @shawncain882
    @shawncain882 Месяц назад +16

    The Jimmy slander has to stop. He's the primary reason the Heat have been as successful as they have since he signed with the team.
    Pat Riley gave Jimmy the max-extension he currently has when his career history has always been, including his first few seasons with the Heat before Riley extended his contract, that he's not a prolific scorer in the regular season, misses about 20 games or so a season, but always elevates his play in the playoffs
    Pat Riley recruits older players to sign wirh Miami and tells them he'll allow them to take time off to manage their bodies and for personal family matters. If Riley was unhappy with Jimmy's availability and play last season, he needs to take accountability himself for giving an older player an extension and promising them they could load-manage during the season
    Fans need to stop blaming Jimmy so much for the Heat's poor regular season. Bam, at 26, has a max contract and couldn't even average 20 pts per game and disappears at times. Herro, who also got a big extension, missed almost the whole regular season. And the rest of the Heat Culture guys just weren't good enough to get the job done.
    Playoff Jimmy has covered up for Pat Riley's poor roster management. The Heat's 3 best players don't even fit and play well together. Stop blaming Jimmy for everything. 79 year old Pat Riley is who Heat fans should be focusing on and want gone.

    • @Miles_305
      @Miles_305 Месяц назад +3

      True. Yet all of that is in the past. Cannot afford to pay a guy for the past under these new rules man. And I am a Jimmy guy. I want him to stay. Yet, objectively, he is declining and if we think it's bad now, the future years will be worse due to his style of play, Tibb mins on his body, no respected 3pt shot, etc.

    • @Blazenetwork1990
      @Blazenetwork1990 Месяц назад

      @@Miles_305 and when he sign the extension at the middle or end of this season would be in the past as well that’s with every contract it’s based off your resume

    • @sandraolson7974
      @sandraolson7974 Месяц назад +1

      @@shawncain882 facts 💯, been saying this since 2023 season

    • @fs6688
      @fs6688 Месяц назад

      Oh please, he hasn’t achieved anything, and he was a nobody before the Heat. Stop the glazing

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      @fs6688 , If that's how you feel about Jimmy, then use your brain to comprehend what said and blame Riley for signing a "nobody" and giving him a big max contract extension at an older age.
      And if "glazing" is on your mind when we're talking about sports, then obviously that's what you like to do

  • @pashanamir6151
    @pashanamir6151 Месяц назад +2

    As a big herro fan he still has one major thing to prove. He has to prove that he can be a high leaving scoring and playmaking third/second option on a competitive heat team. In the two years he’s been a night in night out starter he hasn’t done that. Two seasons ago he had a solid year but he broke his hand against the bucks and missed the playoffs and this year he was injured all the time and then in the playoffs the team stood no chance. So both seasons he hasn’t played a full season. Injuries are not in his control but that doesn’t change the fact that we haven’t seen him have healthy run as a 2nd/3rd option starter yet

  • @rockinon011
    @rockinon011 Месяц назад +7

    What on earth does Jimmy have to prove? He is at minimum a top 3 Heat player of all time. He was a top 3 playoff performer in multiple postseasons, he has MULTIPLE top 15 playoff games of all time from any player ever. His record is unimpeachable. If Pat and Andy had done their jobs and given him reasonable talent instead of scrappy undrafted guys and one-way exploitable guys he would already have hung a banner. Very disrespectful to what he has accomplished here.
    Don't like the venom the front office and now the Heat media that carries water for the front office has been slinging on his name. If not for the miracle work of Jimmy the last 10 years of Heat basketball would have been disgraceful and Pat Riley's reputation would deservedly be in the dirt. Put some respect on the guy who has carried everything since Wade left.

  • @moneymitch6269
    @moneymitch6269 Месяц назад +3

    Herro was never supposed to be a 1. He is the 3rd best kind of guy!

    • @donjohnson3195
      @donjohnson3195 Месяц назад +1

      He's more like a 6th Best, but he's paid Too Much for that

  • @donjohnson3195
    @donjohnson3195 Месяц назад +2

    Wes said it's a "What have you done for me lately League" So what has Pat done Lately???? Oh yeah, Take Credit for Wade's Work ‼️ Ps We just saw Bam as Miami's best player, against Boston.... And we saw how that Ended 😂 And i Love Bam

  • @PointJovic
    @PointJovic Месяц назад +7

    This whole Jimmy Butler thing is idiotic to me from the Heat side. Make a decision on him and roll with it.
    You know what Jimmy is. He is old and has a lot of miles, his body is betraying him. He will give you everything he has in the playoffs. Cannot give you that all year. Do you want that or not?
    You cannot ask him to “prove it” when proving it means overcoming what your body is inevitably going to do. He is willing to play on a trashed knee for 3 quarters of a playoff game, where you lost. He played through injury in an entire series against Denver, that you lost.
    He is what he is because of the blood, sweat, and tears he poured into basketball his whole career. What’s left of him is what’s left of him. It’s out of his control.

    • @rockinon011
      @rockinon011 Месяц назад

      @@PointJovic THANK YOU

    • @FrederickGreen-hi7qc
      @FrederickGreen-hi7qc Месяц назад

      @@PointJovic can you retype that in all caps, the jimmy disrespect is sickening. Talk about spo lineups and pat not putting another long wing to help smh

  • @MiguelPerez-js5kr
    @MiguelPerez-js5kr Месяц назад +2

    Bam and herro have everything to prove Jimmy has nothing to prove he has carry the heat since he been in this team

  • @trap9190
    @trap9190 Месяц назад +3

    Tyler Herro is NOT too good to be a role player
    He is a top 70-80 level player in the league. That is not too good to be a role player

  • @williamcody8114
    @williamcody8114 Месяц назад +5

    Wes you full of spit about Jimmy. This dude be tripping

  • @tj2fly883
    @tj2fly883 Месяц назад +8

    bam has most to prove…ridiculous sometime u guys just say anything

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      @@tj2fly883 Bam needs to prove he's a franchise player who can carry a team during the regular season and playoffs to justify the big max-extension his just got. To whom much is given much is expected

    • @tylerriley2587
      @tylerriley2587 Месяц назад

      @@shawncain882 He needs help. Bam can't do it himself

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      @@tylerriley2587 , No one's asking him to do everything himself, but he needs to do more to justify his larger salary and franchise player status

    • @tylerriley2587
      @tylerriley2587 Месяц назад

      @@shawncain882 I mean, it’s hard to trade him because nobody wants that contract

  • @KevondrickBailey
    @KevondrickBailey Месяц назад

    Tyler my guy, Jimmy just gotta stay healthy throughout the regular season, headed into the playoffs, and in the playoffs. Just like Tyler Herro

  • @Taino727
    @Taino727 Месяц назад +1

    I agree with Wes takes on Jimmy and Bam 💯💯💯💯

    • @FrederickGreen-hi7qc
      @FrederickGreen-hi7qc Месяц назад +1

      @@Taino727 i can't agree with wes until somebody tell me what Jimmy's role is on this team,

    • @Taino727
      @Taino727 Месяц назад

      @@FrederickGreen-hi7qc his role is the Star player on the team and needs to play it

  • @chirocket4791
    @chirocket4791 Месяц назад +1

    Running it back most likely similar results.

  • @garyyoung2919
    @garyyoung2919 Месяц назад +1

    Stop giving the Heat's front office a pass for clearance shopping to fill the roster. The same roster issues from the bubble have yet to be addressed. Plus, we all see how DIRTY each play was that injured Jimmy back to back years.

  • @scaled-daddy22
    @scaled-daddy22 Месяц назад +2

    The only thing tyler has to prove and that he belongs on the heat if not trade him thats it. He has given nothing for 3 years should have been left this team

    • @grapeape1965
      @grapeape1965 Месяц назад +1

      NO ONE WANTS HIM. How are MIA fans so freaking blind to how trades work? Youve seen that no one wants him, even as salary in a bigger trade, definitely not with his trash contract AND getting any sort of asset back. NO ONE WANTS HERRO, HE IS YOURS

  • @Therantguyyeazy
    @Therantguyyeazy Месяц назад

    I wasnt Chicago Jimmy no jokes no nothing but hooping and seriousness especially during the season 🎉

  • @Taino727
    @Taino727 Месяц назад

    We need Jimmy to play like a Star every night that's what comes with being the best player on a team. And Bam needs to show if he's a piece to the puzzle or if he can really be a lead 1A guy which we don't know yet.

  • @scaled-daddy22
    @scaled-daddy22 Месяц назад +2

    David Ramil why the hell does bam have anything to prove are you slow? Bam has nothing to prove the front office does by puttin a damn competent roster around him

  • @shawncain882
    @shawncain882 Месяц назад

    Just imagine if Bam had the ability to just dunk the ball more often, like Blake Griffin, Aaron Gordon, Shawn Kemp, Dwight Howard, and Giannis His ceiling and the Heat's ceiling would be much greater if he could figure out a way to get more easy baskets in the paint.
    IMO, Bam should've skipped the Olympics because he already has a gold medal and went down to Houston for the entire summer to work with Hakeem on his footwork and post moves. If Bam's the new franchise player by default, then he needs to elevate his offensive game
    Defense wins championships, but offense wins games. So, Bam needs to elevate his offense to help the Heat win more games to be in a better position to win a championship with his good defense

  • @No-Drinks-In-The-Car
    @No-Drinks-In-The-Car Месяц назад

    Tyler will thrive on a team like Golden State

  • @leothelion2593
    @leothelion2593 Месяц назад

    I think the reason Tyler hit his ceiling is because while he has physical limitations there are things he could have done to make those things less of a problem. Look at Bane in Memphis, he doesn’t have a long wingspan, he’s more athletic than Tyler but the main thing is, he’s strong. Tyler has been super skinny and hasn’t transformed his body at all

  • @joelpanes1730
    @joelpanes1730 Месяц назад

    looking beyond this season for championship hopes is ironic. can it be said this year is a transition period and jimmy's ornamental in pursuing a play off spot only? big on next year and play off's the ceiling?

  • @kevincannon9564
    @kevincannon9564 Месяц назад +4

    Jimmy was great for Miami but he's 35 we've seen the proof but that window is closed now

  • @MaddNomad1015
    @MaddNomad1015 Месяц назад

    The issue I see? Tyler IS a 6th man in a starting spot. Which sucks. He earned the spot when called on at training camp but in reality he should’ve stayed at 6th.
    They should bring Jimmy back to 2 and put Bam at the 4 to get the best out of them, hopefully reducing injuries for Jimmy

  • @Mr.Lopez.D
    @Mr.Lopez.D Месяц назад +6

    None of those player you mention were better than butler on the playoffs in the last 4 years . So your argument is to play the regular season 70 games minimum something his done twice in his career and then win another 16 games by himself??🤣 🤣 🤣 . Bc bam will disappear offensively against a real center like usual nothing he can do to small. Then we have to pray for herro to be healthy to at least attempt to do something bc been 6 years 1 playoff run (bubble rookie year ) . The issue is not butler the issue is the team you build a round him . Bunch of role players and bam 3rd option at best in championship team.

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      Yep, read my post on this video

    • @rockinon011
      @rockinon011 Месяц назад +3

      Expecting a 35 year old Jimmy coming off of 3 major lower body injuries to play 90 games at a top 10 level is absurd magical thinking. If they want a regular season work horse then trade Jimmy for someone in their 20s instead of slinging mud on his name as if this man has not single-handedly kept the Heat relevant over the last half decade. And as if the front office hasn't completely failed in their job of supporting him. Heat have been acting very slimy this offseason disrespecting a legend just like they disrespected Wade and even LeBron.

    • @Miles_305
      @Miles_305 Месяц назад

      Last year Jimmy was ranked 12 and Bam was ranked 15. HOWEVER, on the ESPN reg season leaders board, Jimmy was no.42 and Bam was no.35 last season. Hence, play-in and swift exit. The ESPN projections for next yr have Bam dropping to no.21 and Jimmy falling all the way down to 48🫣

  • @derrickcrumpton3165
    @derrickcrumpton3165 Месяц назад +2

    Problem is Bam and Tyler do well during the regular season and Jimmy coasts. Then playoff time comes Bam and Tyler dissapear and Jimmy playing hard but we're the 8th seed or play-in team.

    • @fs6688
      @fs6688 Месяц назад

      Tyler misses half of the regular season

  • @Lu2Lu7
    @Lu2Lu7 Месяц назад +1

    Tyler herro needs to come off the bench

  • @stonerbarz8510
    @stonerbarz8510 Месяц назад +1

    Keep the beard

  • @play4us23
    @play4us23 Месяц назад

    Kel'el, Bam, Jovic, Jimmy, Terry starting five. Whoever off the bench.
    And yes, Jimmy needs to play. Horrible season last year.

  • @gilbertopinto248
    @gilbertopinto248 Месяц назад +3

    When are you guys going to talk about the Miami Heat Summer team is in the Championship game and they have 3 to 4 players that are going to good.

    • @grapeape1965
      @grapeape1965 Месяц назад

      LMAO no one gives af about SL championships hahaha. What the players do there and who they play against is literally NO COMPARISON to the NBA and the actual talent from team to team. Teams with REAL young talent, that actually will play NBA minutes or will be stars, dont even play those players in SL or they let them play one game maybe 2 with limited minutes and then sit them. How stupid can you be?? SL doesnt even give any idea as to who has the best G LEAGUE team bc some of the more important GL players still dont even play in SL LMAO. 3 to 4 players that are going ot be good hahahahaha absolute fantasy world from the team with one of the worst group of young players in the NBA and not a single top 3 tier talent LOL

    • @fs6688
      @fs6688 Месяц назад

      Oh please, Summer League means nothing

  • @seabass9043
    @seabass9043 Месяц назад

    Paying Jimmy 50 million plus until he is 36 years old is plenty fair from the Heat. Nobody should be acting like they haven't taken care of Jimmy

  • @framptonhendrix530
    @framptonhendrix530 Месяц назад

    Long live Locked on Heat ❤🙏

  • @josuealbert7063
    @josuealbert7063 Месяц назад

    Tyler has to learn to play like Duncan he is the piece that doesnt fit Jimmy and Bam have been the main stays in all our finals and east finals Herro needs to stop trying to shoot the mid range and score either at the basket or from 3 if he doesnt bench him

  • @Mr.Lopez.D
    @Mr.Lopez.D Месяц назад +6

    The fact you think butler has something to prove in the regular season your crazy . 🤦‍♂️ asking a 35 yrs old to play 70 games something done twice in his career 🤡. For us to get out of play in tournament lol our best player bam couldn’t do nothing about regular season to get us out of there ?

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад +5

      Exactly, Bam, who's only 26 has a max contract just like Jimmy and just got a bigger max-extension, and he's not good enough to average 20 pts game and carry a team during the regular season.
      He's a 3rd teir All-Star, who is only good enough to be the 3rd best player on a championship winning team. Without Jimmy or Rozier in the playoffs, he only increased his average from 19 to 22, pathetic, especially when you considered he had no pressure on him because nobody expected the Heat to win that series

    • @omne1008
      @omne1008 Месяц назад +1

      If he wants a contract that’s exactly what he’ll do.

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад +2

      @omne1008 , He's already on a max extension contract for this year and has a player option for more money next year. He really has nothing to prove. He's set whether he gets a new contract extension or not from Miami

    • @scaled-daddy22
      @scaled-daddy22 Месяц назад

      Blame tyler sorry ass

    • @Mr.Lopez.D
      @Mr.Lopez.D Месяц назад

      @@shawncain882 exactly and he will opt in get his money and ask for a trade after he don’t give a fuck about regular season

  • @Therantguyyeazy
    @Therantguyyeazy Месяц назад +2

    Bam been the best player all around on both sides last 2 seasons..😮

    • @grapeape1965
      @grapeape1965 Месяц назад +2

      If Bam is your 1A leader of the team youre not winning anything of any importance

    • @Therantguyyeazy
      @Therantguyyeazy Месяц назад +1

      @@grapeape1965 💤 nobody cares better than losing with jimmy so u got no point we ain't won nothing with jimmy idk why people act like Miami has

    • @Blazenetwork1990
      @Blazenetwork1990 Месяц назад +2

      @@Therantguyyeazy and we damn sho ain’t winning with bam he couldn’t even get 40 in the playoffs

    • @Therantguyyeazy
      @Therantguyyeazy Месяц назад +1

      @@Blazenetwork1990 u just talking 😂 dude the main reason we got a game vs Denver and Boston just this last year

    • @knowledgeseeker1528
      @knowledgeseeker1528 Месяц назад +1

      @@Blazenetwork199040? He can’t even give you 30 lol

  • @scaled-daddy22
    @scaled-daddy22 Месяц назад +1

    Lmao wes what do u kean b4 everyone got hurt and left him on an island. That mf got hurt the 7th game of the season and they were 3-4 lmao tyler stinks

  • @Miles_305
    @Miles_305 Месяц назад

    I'm 💯 with Wes. We know what Tyler is (even if Tyler doesn't😅). Time to stop beating him down. Jimmy gets "i'm him!" Money and is down in damn near every offensive and defensive stat...he has loads to prove esp. In the reg season to get max money. The dark side of "Playoff Jimmy" is that you get "Coasting Jimmy" most the season.

  • @Thundercats125
    @Thundercats125 Месяц назад +1

    Tyler is just 24. I think he will figure it out. He is determined to be great.

    • @fs6688
      @fs6688 Месяц назад

      He sucks

  • @donjohnson3195
    @donjohnson3195 Месяц назад

    Trade Tyler... He's Proven he's a Guy.... And he's not a Real 20ppg scorer... He get a Bunch of shots, because he plays with 2 Non score first scorers.... His numbers are Empty... They're Better Without Him

  • @scaled-daddy22
    @scaled-daddy22 Месяц назад

    And wes bam is too busy on the offensive side bein the hub gettin everyone open with screens and dho's to do more for himself on offense. Jesus yal know nothing of basketball

  • @kamerongrossi3471
    @kamerongrossi3471 Месяц назад

    I see Jimmy logged in too all his burner accounts

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад +1

      @kamerongrossi3471 , If you think Jimmy gives AF about what's said about him on social media, them you haven't learned anything about Jimmy since he's been on the team.

    • @kamerongrossi3471
      @kamerongrossi3471 Месяц назад

      @@shawncain882 lmao buddy doesn’t get a joke

    • @shawncain882
      @shawncain882 Месяц назад

      @kamerongrossi3471 , Bad joke, good jokes are rooted in some truth or something believable. No one has even liked your comment/joke, so..

    • @kamerongrossi3471
      @kamerongrossi3471 Месяц назад

      @@shawncain882 ok jimmy on a burner account

  • @troyortiz2414
    @troyortiz2414 Месяц назад

    Jimmy will break down and get injured if he gives maximum effort and plays 70 games in the regular season. I’m done with his laziness and his BS. Trade him so he can go to tennis matches and make coffee for another team.

    • @Blazenetwork1990
      @Blazenetwork1990 Месяц назад +3

      Jimmy doesn’t have nothing to prove u should be mad at Tyler jimmy the only reason this team has gotten this far he don’t have another superstar to help him like most team I wish yall would get this threw yall head