NEW! Stephan Sterns - Ex Good Friend Josh Interview Part 2

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  • NEW! Stephan Sterns - Ex Good Friend Josh Interview Part 2
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    "Madeline Soto’s body was found on March 1 by detectives after having last been seen alive on Feb. 26. Police named Stephan Sterns, identified in court documents as her stepfather, as a prime suspect in her disappearance. While he was charged with sexual battery of a minor, no charges have been filed in Madeline’s death.
    In an affidavit obtained by Court TV, a detective for the Kissimmee Police Department said that Sterns consented to having his phone searched, but told officers that he “had accidentally performed a factory reset on his phone on February 26, 2024.” - courttv
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Комментарии • 456

  • @GrayHughesInvestigates
    @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +44

    PLEASE HIT THE LIKE BUTTON SHOULD ALREADY BE AT 1000! THANKS

    • @thomasadrian9854
      @thomasadrian9854 6 месяцев назад +8

      Freaks- I hit the “like” button Before I watch- c’mon folks, you know it’s going to be good…..

    • @mrpapagiorgio3620
      @mrpapagiorgio3620 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@thomasadrian9854Gary Hughes is #1 !

    • @rosaliecowhey5868
      @rosaliecowhey5868 6 месяцев назад +3

      The mother said she saw her in the morning getting dressed after she also said she saw her the night before was the last time. She's involved.

    • @Zyx5620
      @Zyx5620 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah folks come on all it takes is hitting the button ! 15k views !!? Geeessh ! 🙋🏽‍♀️🙋🏽‍♀️

    • @TruCrimeQueen
      @TruCrimeQueen 6 месяцев назад

      Who would hit the like button for this horrible interview. Victim blaming (saying the 3 of them doing things) and making excuses for that POS!!!

  • @LydiaTheDog-op9wy
    @LydiaTheDog-op9wy 6 месяцев назад +130

    People, please stop speculating that this poor child committed suicide. She was murdered.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 6 месяцев назад +3

      I think she was either caught up in domestic violence or someone gave her a Mickey and she ODd and passed on..And they panicked

    • @beccagee5905
      @beccagee5905 6 месяцев назад +10

      They can take their time on the murder charges.

    • @izabela1961
      @izabela1961 6 месяцев назад +4

      Everything is possible at this point.

    • @LydiaTheDog-op9wy
      @LydiaTheDog-op9wy 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@evephelpsmarketing it's not speculation when they say it was a homicide. There will be murder charges filed soon, probably on both of them.

    • @RyanGriffin-q8b
      @RyanGriffin-q8b 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you people can be so, well don't even have a word for them just ridiculous

  • @Pinkdiamond12
    @Pinkdiamond12 6 месяцев назад +31

    Gray is good reeling in this guy, but the way the guy talks about Maddie a 13 yr old is strange. He's so easily pointing at the mom and not his "friend." Saying his tears were real and the sadness. Come on.

    • @crimnclove1970
      @crimnclove1970 6 месяцев назад +11

      Maybe he was involved too, who knows. A lot of sickos in Florida.

    • @ArissaMai222
      @ArissaMai222 6 месяцев назад +8

      This guy strongly dislikes Jennifer, more so than Stephan.

    • @brielynn1275
      @brielynn1275 6 месяцев назад +3

      ikr. Also, the other friend said Stephan was 'really smart' and would never simply wipe the phone. I take what these people say with a grain of salt.

    • @kennacummins5734
      @kennacummins5734 6 месяцев назад +3

      Or it’s just really hard to accept because he never saw any signs. What if you found this out about your best friend? You can’t say you wouldn’t have a hard time coming to terms with it. But the reality is child groomers are excellent at hiding in plain sight and they are usually never suspected.

    • @crimnclove1970
      @crimnclove1970 6 месяцев назад

      @@kennacummins5734 On the flip side, birds of a feather flocks together.

  • @paulettelehnert8222
    @paulettelehnert8222 6 месяцев назад +31

    We still need more information b4 we say that the mother sexually abused her daughter. We also don't know if she murdered her. Thanks Josh for telling your story. Thank you Gray!

    • @venericanone
      @venericanone 6 месяцев назад +13

      I'm already convinced she at least had knowledge. They both tried lying to media and police and didn't keep their stories straight.

    • @paulettelehnert8222
      @paulettelehnert8222 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@venericanone I do believe that she will be charged with something.

  • @bertthomas1016
    @bertthomas1016 6 месяцев назад +1

    Let them grand jury indict him ..ya want fries with that ?

  • @awill2329
    @awill2329 6 месяцев назад

    Omg you hit the nail on the head guys! He drugged her to hurt her like he does on her birthday and she died!

  • @catH727
    @catH727 6 месяцев назад

    Mother was not charged with SA. Yet anyway

  • @brendaredmond4678
    @brendaredmond4678 6 месяцев назад +70

    WTF? "All 3 of them did something weird..." You mean maybe they were both abusing Madeline? This guy says some strange things.

    • @beccagee5905
      @beccagee5905 6 месяцев назад +31

      As if a child were a willing participant. I'm not okay with statements like that.

    • @kiwikassie
      @kiwikassie 6 месяцев назад +13

      it's disgusting but I believe that groomed children are still innocent regardless. this is the 2nd person who has said this including the apparent aunt of the mother so...

    • @sandybeach444
      @sandybeach444 6 месяцев назад +15

      It's disgusting to say that about a child.
      So many disrespectful things being said about poor Maddie 😢

    • @tracischraenkler4801
      @tracischraenkler4801 6 месяцев назад +7

      He was sticking up for Stephan and talking about no tears because he's all cried out. I call BS. My husband was killed 2022. I cry tears everyday, for over a year , some days my tears never stop. Stephan rubbed his eyes so they appeared red to look like he was cried out. The friend said his own child has a standing appt Dr appt. I pray to God it's not the kind of appt where you talk about abuse that been done to you. This friend talks about Maddie doing something "weird" with her mom and Creepy boyfriend. That's not weird that disgusting, illegal , r•pe of a child. In my opinion this friend is not right.

    • @mist4727
      @mist4727 6 месяцев назад +17

      his friends are so weird, they all need investigating

  • @christinamayer4508
    @christinamayer4508 6 месяцев назад +85

    I think they haven't charged him for murder yet bc once they charge him, the clock starts ticking . They need time to gain as much evidence as they can to have an air tight case

    • @bless_yore_-heart1914
      @bless_yore_-heart1914 6 месяцев назад +4

      A grand jury has to indict for capital murder. They normally only meet once a month.

    • @cabbastyles.
      @cabbastyles. 6 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly

    • @izabela1961
      @izabela1961 6 месяцев назад +3

      Or maybe they are also working on mommy's evidence. Is it true she has lawyered up?

    • @frangiforos8697
      @frangiforos8697 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yes! No statute of limitations for m under. The police have all the time in the world to create a unasailable case.

    • @annmoore8696
      @annmoore8696 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for explaining because I always thought they have a Time Limit 😕

  • @cabbastyles.
    @cabbastyles. 6 месяцев назад +46

    Bro let’s be fr why would she overdose there’s literally no proof of that let’s stop pulling things out of our asses especially when it comes to a 13 yr old girl 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +8

      there is no proof of anything yet...It's a theory. YOu sound so dramatic. I think it's possible he drugged her. You sound like an idiot.

    • @cabbastyles.
      @cabbastyles. 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@GrayHughesInvestigatessir you’re a grown ahh man talking about a 13 yr old girl like this, you don’t like that I called you out so I think if anything YOURE THE IDIOT IN THIS SITUATION… 🧐😑

    • @StacieStech
      @StacieStech 6 месяцев назад

      They're saying Stephan probably drugged her so he could SA her. He probably slipped something in her drink to make her pass out and not remember anything. He may have been doing this for years and this time she overdosed.

    • @jonasalves7492
      @jonasalves7492 6 месяцев назад +5

      No one is saying the girl was a secret junkie, for crying out loud. It's common for predators to use drugs, and we know for a fact that there was a predator inside the house abusing here. So the THEORY that Stephan might have been using drugs to SA her and gave her a little bit too much (causing her to OD and thus making it necessary to dispose the body) makes TOTAL SENSE.

    • @jonasalves7492
      @jonasalves7492 6 месяцев назад

      @@jazpes.u5875 obviously the supposed drug here would not be weed, or do you think they smoked weed together as pals? jesus what's wrong with people nowdays, having such difficulty to understand simple things. Predators often use drugs ON THEIR victims, is that clear enough? and that drug is obviously not weed, it's usually a roofie of some kind...

  • @Lilith_Hypatia
    @Lilith_Hypatia 6 месяцев назад +54

    Josh is an absolute creep, just like Sterns. The way he talks so flippantly about a child that was murdered and sexually abused is off putting to say the least. Also to state Madeline may have just engaged in something willingly with the egg donor and demon is just a weird, pathetic way of wording things. Tired of these friends. I want to see this investigation ramp up so we can get real answers, and closure for Madeline.

    • @Lilith_Hypatia
      @Lilith_Hypatia 6 месяцев назад +1

      I believe Jenn is involved but currently the only one with definitive evidence against him is Stephan; this man barely acts like he’s disgusted by the fact he was friends with an actual pedophile.

    • @Rose-fv1pd
      @Rose-fv1pd 6 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely agree

    • @angelapuckett4932
      @angelapuckett4932 6 месяцев назад +1

      Was she pregnant really? I have missed a few days.

    • @thegroovyhead
      @thegroovyhead 5 месяцев назад +3

      Typical language of abusers. Revolting.

    • @chilltarts
      @chilltarts 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@thegroovyhead abusers and excusers 🤨 Maddie was a child. She didn't have any choice in this at all. She was preyed upon; period.

  • @corinnediemer844
    @corinnediemer844 6 месяцев назад +83

    Waiting for autopsy results ….

    • @kiwikassie
      @kiwikassie 6 месяцев назад

      they're withholding them from the public

    • @bettywith2girls
      @bettywith2girls 6 месяцев назад +6

      Results are already in. LE just hasn't released them yet. They already have released the body of the poor girl to the family for funeral and cremation.

    • @ceecee1001
      @ceecee1001 6 месяцев назад +5

      How do you know this information

    • @catherinethemba
      @catherinethemba 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ceecee1001they only release a body for burial after autopsy is over.

    • @sassyfrass4295
      @sassyfrass4295 6 месяцев назад +1

      and more arrests!

  • @beccagee5905
    @beccagee5905 6 месяцев назад +43

    They haven't charged him with murder yet, because Florida passed a law for capital death penalty, on what was done to Madeline found on his phone. Yep he will face the death penalty for the SA on a child. They can take all the time they need on bringing in murder charges.

    • @beccagee5905
      @beccagee5905 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@truecrimelover61I agree all states should protect children from these pedos, because they never change, and will go on hurting children.

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz 3 месяца назад

      ​@@truecrimelover61it seems good in theory but all it does is cause abusers to murder their victims. They feel like they're going to get caught so is their last ditch effort if they're facing the chair either way.

    • @kathismith7441
      @kathismith7441 День назад

      They haven’t charged him yet because they need more time to prove it. He’s already been charged for r@ping her.

  • @bless_yore_-heart1914
    @bless_yore_-heart1914 6 месяцев назад +59

    He feels bad and he's NOT heartless?
    He dumped a child's body off the side of a road to decompose and be attacked by animals.
    And said nothing but lies.
    The only thing he feels bad about is his own ass being grass.
    BTW
    A grand jury indictment is required in Florida for a capital muder charge.
    That's why he hasn't been charged yet.
    Those grand juries normally meet only once a month.
    I was actually surprised they charged him with capital sexual battery already. It's a new law so charging that may have been a mistake.
    Our constitution provides that no person shall be brought to trial for a capital crime except upon indictment of a grand jury.

    • @overit6969
      @overit6969 6 месяцев назад

      They charged him capital sexual battery because of the disgusting pictures of him SA'ing her on his phone!!!

    • @catherinethemba
      @catherinethemba 6 месяцев назад

      When do you think they'll release autopsy report please?

    • @Rollimggiant
      @Rollimggiant 6 месяцев назад

      Not to forget the fact that he was SA a 9 yr old and filming her for years with animals?

  • @IvanVikktor715
    @IvanVikktor715 6 месяцев назад +55

    I wonder how many of these old pals will take the stand if he goes to trial

  • @KristenAnderson-ky7zu
    @KristenAnderson-ky7zu 6 месяцев назад +38

    Firstly if someone gets hurt by accident they would call an ambulance not hide her body….,

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +9

      right but not if drugs were the "accident"

    • @ThriveCollective1188
      @ThriveCollective1188 6 месяцев назад

      Not if child abuse or neglect would be discovered by seeking emergency help.
      We have a famous and tragic case of little William Tyrrell. A 3 year old child that’s never been found 8 years on. At first the whole country was looking for a kidnapped child. Police now believe the foster parents caused his disappearance but are struggling to bring the evidence needed and unable to bring charges

  • @rebeccaswift7588
    @rebeccaswift7588 6 месяцев назад +22

    I doubt the 3 of them were doing inappropriate things together. Maddie must have had PTSD from what that monster was doing to her..😢

  • @maggieb2748
    @maggieb2748 6 месяцев назад +22

    Commenting to support the guests and the channel. It would also be interesting to hear from some people who know Jenn. If they want to speak, this is a great place for them to be heard.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +12

      none of them have contacted me. I would also like to hear from female friends of Stephan

  • @EdithPimentel-ic5bw
    @EdithPimentel-ic5bw 6 месяцев назад +118

    Suggesting that a child is willingly “into kinky stuff together” is absolutely absurd for this guy to say 🤬 Please REMEMBER that children are innocent!

    • @beccagee5905
      @beccagee5905 6 месяцев назад +19

      I agree totally.

    • @CoolHandLukeDuke
      @CoolHandLukeDuke 6 месяцев назад +15

      If she was groomed to believe it was perfectly natural,.especially by her own mother....

    • @Ardnaxela1002
      @Ardnaxela1002 6 месяцев назад +29

      I agree. Also theres people online saying he was in love with her or she was in love with him. Thats so so sick. He was raping her. She just turned 13. Like shes not in love with some gross 30 year old and he isnt raping her because he loves her. Makes me sick

    • @CoolHandLukeDuke
      @CoolHandLukeDuke 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@celticwarrior777 - Venture to say you have zero background in child psychology.

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@celticwarrior777absolutely.

  • @lynnehill727
    @lynnehill727 6 месяцев назад +8

    I totally believe she is up to her neck in it. The way she covered for him by saying that she saw her daughter getting ready for school. 😅😮😂

  • @IrishAuntie
    @IrishAuntie 6 месяцев назад +17

    I can imagine the shock Sterns’ friends are feeling. The stuff on his phone was horrendous, and apparently he had been abusing Madeline since she was 11 years old. I think the police are taking their time with charging him for her murder. They have him in custody on the phone charges, so they are waiting for her autopsy results to charge him and get all their ducks in a row. I’d say they knew her cause of death when they found her but are in no rush due to the other charges. He’s going away for life undoubtedly. He needs to be caged and never let loose in public again.

  • @laynedoon7437
    @laynedoon7437 6 месяцев назад +16

    josh seems genuinely shocked that he was friends with a monster,i cant understand why some people cant appreciate the fact that it must take a lot of courage to come forward,after all it gives us a rough idea about his upbringing ,personality and its helpful,thanks josh,great interview gray.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +2

      because there are a lot of trash people in this world

    • @conniegalan5534
      @conniegalan5534 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@GrayHughesInvestigatesKeep it civil, please.

  • @LG-rescues
    @LG-rescues 6 месяцев назад +47

    I'm still wondering if an unplanned overdose is involved??? 🤔

    • @batcactus6046
      @batcactus6046 6 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, this was a seriously unplanned disposal.

    • @ArissaMai222
      @ArissaMai222 6 месяцев назад +3

      I think an overdose is what took Maddie out. They, Stephan and Jennifer were not expecting it.

    • @CLAD157
      @CLAD157 6 месяцев назад +12

      If she overdosed or committed suicide there was no reason for either of them to dispose of the body. Something with the dead body would have to tie either or both of them into it. Very definitely not an experienced murder, if it turns out to be that. Full panic and body dump. Very obvious. Not even a grave dug. If he or she didn't do something criminal they could have called police and let them examine everything. In removing her body he set himself up for them to find evidence of child abuse. Until that report is released we all guess until the cows come home, so to speak. Bizarre case.

    • @cabbastyles.
      @cabbastyles. 6 месяцев назад

      There’s literally ZERO proof of an overdose out of all possibilities this seems like the least possible scenario given the info at the moment 😑

    • @jonasalves7492
      @jonasalves7492 6 месяцев назад +12

      The assumption is that she OD because they used drugs to sexually assault her, but lost their hand this time. Remember, we already know that he had been abusing her for years, in her own house. Many predators drug their victims to lower resistance. That's why they would still have to dispose the body in this scenario.

  • @sabrinalennox2004
    @sabrinalennox2004 6 месяцев назад +27

    Law enforcement said they called at 8pm but jennifer said they called before 5.
    I believe law enforcement

    • @The.Mad.Catter
      @The.Mad.Catter 6 месяцев назад

      Noticed that too

    • @Starbuc1
      @Starbuc1 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yea, caught that as well. Not believing anything that comes out of the mom’s mouth at this point..or at any point. The first interviews with mom and the creepy boyfriend had me thinking from the get go this was a case of prolonged abuse and murder. That poor child…..it’s heartbreaking. 💔

  • @Zebragirl1111
    @Zebragirl1111 6 месяцев назад +68

    This guy is enjoying telling this story way too much.

    • @Sophie-ts2wq
      @Sophie-ts2wq 6 месяцев назад +12

      Agreed I can’t listen to this one

    • @shirleybush9579
      @shirleybush9579 6 месяцев назад +7

      He's voicing his opinion.

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад +7

      Have you ever done any interviews?
      Not as easy as it looks.
      I’m glad he’s willing to talk.

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Sophie-ts2wqbye bye then 👋

    • @Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch
      @Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch 6 месяцев назад +3

      There’s something wrong with this friend. Not credible.

  • @chubbiebunnie2605
    @chubbiebunnie2605 6 месяцев назад +26

    all of his friends are so fucking bizarre but ESPECIALLY this one!!

    • @willowwillis7374
      @willowwillis7374 6 месяцев назад +1

      You have to be bizarre to remain friends with someone you know is a creep

    • @alexialira3839
      @alexialira3839 6 месяцев назад +8

      Agreed. I mean there's gotta be something odd about you if you're going to be in a romantic relationship or befriend a character like Stephen for months let alone years....& as an adult.
      Not saying they're pedo's too, just saying they're pretty off/not all there.

    • @livingonhighvibe
      @livingonhighvibe 6 месяцев назад +1

      the one that was homeschooled (Ryan, I think) sounded normal. all these other guys are whacky.

  • @kennacummins5734
    @kennacummins5734 6 месяцев назад +25

    Just want to say we appreciate all of Stephan’s friends coming on as guests. 9/10 times it’s not someone anyone would suspect . People that prey on kids are psychopaths and able to hide in plain sight.

  • @PFFlyer64
    @PFFlyer64 6 месяцев назад +7

    This was really interesting. This guy seems super trustworthy and genuine. This really makes it easier to see how these bad things go unnoticed for so long. It’s really terrifying. I feel compassion for this “friend” of Stefan. I can’t imagine how unsettling this whole thing has been for him.

  • @louisegrimwood8882
    @louisegrimwood8882 6 месяцев назад +14

    I thought it was weird when she said the dogs would sniff her out, it just seemed strange to me.

  • @r.dwoodruff501
    @r.dwoodruff501 6 месяцев назад +16

    They’re not arresting me for murder yet because they’ve already gotten in jail on the other charges. This way they make sure they get all their ducks in a row so when they charge him with murder, it’s gonna stick.

  • @corgisandtea8257
    @corgisandtea8257 6 месяцев назад +10

    Josh made a lot more sense this part 2 than during the first part of his interview. I was happy to have changed my opinion on his reaction. It clarified that he is in shock and had no idea. But he also admits to things looking very bad for SS. This was good to follow up with. Thanks GH!

  • @deeges9098
    @deeges9098 6 месяцев назад +19

    Why hasn’t anyone followed the mother around trying to get her to talk? She will be arrested shortly I would imagine.

    • @Puffpuffaye
      @Puffpuffaye 6 месяцев назад +3

      im sure shes holed up somewhere hiding lol

  • @sugarfingers777
    @sugarfingers777 6 месяцев назад +20

    Whatever the truth, I hope it comes out soon ! Poor young girl having these horrible adults in her charge 😢 And she looks just like her careless Mother !

  • @alicake9753
    @alicake9753 6 месяцев назад +14

    Very interesting interview Gray.
    I appreciate hearing from Josh.

  • @seeitforme7728
    @seeitforme7728 6 месяцев назад +14

    He said what I was thinking about the situation. jen did not look scared of Stephen

    • @seeitforme7728
      @seeitforme7728 6 месяцев назад

      I do not believe that Jenn acted in fear of Stephan. It seems like he is a weak. beta male that could not handle a woman so destroyed an innocent, child with the approval of no self respect or esteem, dumpy, jealous Jenn@@HandMeDeals

  • @Artica61
    @Artica61 6 месяцев назад +17

    This is a rare interview. Thanks for this, as well as the other one!

  • @chrisiman-ro2wt
    @chrisiman-ro2wt 6 месяцев назад +8

    All this is assumption or supposition based on this friend’s personal perceptions.
    It means very little here considering he cannot provide anything tangible as to certain behaviors or events leading up to this incident.
    Edited to contribute something he cannot even give some as to..
    Her cause of death was either strangulation or suffocation.
    She didn’t possibly fall or was pushed and struck her head.
    He knows little more than the rest of you here.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +2

      right just like your opinion means very little. Although I would say his is better than yours since he knows him

    • @chrisiman-ro2wt
      @chrisiman-ro2wt 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@GrayHughesInvestigates .. Sorry to burst your narrative bubble.
      But I’m certainly more knowledgeable about such things than some friend who obviously has little to offer concerning familial dynamics’s and seems to be just as lost as you and your cult following!
      How’s that for a respectful response?
      Or will you be as I suspect offended and simply not permit my opinion as most like you do?
      Very well with me if you resort to this.
      As I said.. it’s an expected outcome.
      When people like yourself can’t bare to hear logical arguments they resort to closing down the opposition (even when the other side is being respectful as they can)
      Edited to add something you may or may not have given consideration..
      Since you aren’t privy as to who or what I am, you can’t (shouldn’t consider my opinion as having a lesser value)
      I could quite possibly be a family member, an investigator, a friend, a troll, possibly even a criminal??
      One can never really know when the internet affords such anonymity.
      My suggestion to you, if your fragile ego hasn’t been damaged too deeply, is to simply allow the statements made to validate themselves.
      After all… you did ask for comments.
      Not everyone will agree with you.
      You don’t have to agree or accept them, only respect them.
      That’s something I’ve noted where you seem to fail..
      I’ve been watching you for quite some time now.

    • @chrisiman-ro2wt
      @chrisiman-ro2wt 6 месяцев назад

      @@GrayHughesInvestigates ..I’d like to apologize to you as well as your following.
      I suppose my comment was based on emotion and that’s something I don’t often do.
      I’m a very analytical person.
      But I am also human.
      And cannot contain the emotions I often feel in cases such as this.
      We’re told that allowing our emotions in such situations can and often does affect our assessments. I believe that statement is very true.
      I want you to know that I wasn’t intentionally trying to deride you or your guest.
      It’s not always an easy thing to hear and see things coming from others in this genre that I don’t accept.
      Only because I’ve dealt with such things for over four decades.
      I’ve seen it all , more than I’d be comfortable sharing with others.
      Please forgive me if my approach was impudent. I didn’t wish this.
      I actually like the fact that you present such cases in an analytical manner, looking at every possible scenario.
      Many here on RUclips true crime channels don’t do this.
      My apologies to you sir and to your members.
      I hope you will accept this and that you and I can have a better relationship as I would not be here if I didn’t feel you have potential. You do.
      I am a professional.
      There’s so much more that I could contribute concerning my background.
      But this is not my intention whatsoever.
      This is not about me.

  • @venusgal2706
    @venusgal2706 6 месяцев назад +4

    No they wouldn't charge him outright with murder why WOULD they went they have enough to lock him up over seroius SA/battery. WHY would you start the clock tickiing? THS CHILD DID NOT OVERDOSE HERSELF. There is NO reason here to rush with a murder charge, he is in jail on SERIOUS charges. Not to mention it isn't rushing anyhow acting as if so long it is taking, it is not even TWO WEEKS.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +1

      nobody said she overdosed herself. What made you think that? bias?

  • @sweetcaroline4667
    @sweetcaroline4667 6 месяцев назад +37

    I can't get over the Mom not answering the Question "When was the last time you seen your daughter, She jumps over and says yesterday she was telling us how she loved her Birthday presents, That doesn't answer that question, I pray justice is coming for Madeline, Thanks for all your doing Gray

    • @pattymiles2688
      @pattymiles2688 6 месяцев назад +5

      Yep this girl was murdered

    • @bumblefish.
      @bumblefish. 6 месяцев назад +5

      Mom said to Police that she SAW her daughter at 8am getting ready for school

    • @Starbuc1
      @Starbuc1 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@bumblefish.and that was just one of many lies.

  • @marleylove510
    @marleylove510 6 месяцев назад +3

    Why would you guys just say sh*t to start rumors and speculation? None of what y’all are saying could be true. You really should wait for facts before you put sh*t like this out. When it comes down to it, if the mom is completely innocent, it would have been people like you guys who have ruined another life.

  • @ArissaMai222
    @ArissaMai222 6 месяцев назад +11

    That would change everything if Jennifer did bring her daughter into her intimacy with Stephan. I did hear that a sister of Jennifer did admit to a friend the abuse was permissible by Jennifer because they all slept on the same bed at some point. I cannot imagine how diabolic the mother is. Then, the sister found out and never reported it to the police.

    • @sonyagraske376
      @sonyagraske376 6 месяцев назад +4

      Where did you get that info? some very bizarre activities

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 6 месяцев назад +1

      Omg weirder and weirder they all 3 slept in same bed! She is way too old for that.

    • @sonyagraske376
      @sonyagraske376 6 месяцев назад

      @@WindTurbineSyndrome does ANYONE GET OLD ENOUGH FOR THAT? OMG. WHAT A COMMENT. ARE YOU O.K.????🤔

    • @StacieStech
      @StacieStech 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@sonyagraske376I think she meant that a lot of babies and toddlers sleep in bed with their parents in a non sexual way, and that there's no excuse for a 13 year old to still be doing that.🙄

    • @sonyagraske376
      @sonyagraske376 6 месяцев назад

      @@StacieStech o.k., it still sounded yuck.

  • @dianabehr3169
    @dianabehr3169 6 месяцев назад +3

    Jennifer even said, "I took her to school - my partner did", correcting herself just like that in the same sentence

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 6 месяцев назад +2

      Other people are saying that she said 'I did not take her to school my partner did', but I absolutely heard what you heard that she said both things at the same time. I took her to school and my partner did p

  • @thegatesofdawn...1386
    @thegatesofdawn...1386 6 месяцев назад +8

    There is no logical or reasonable explanation for what happened to the girl.

  • @dirtinmyeye6505
    @dirtinmyeye6505 6 месяцев назад +8

    When i hear these friends speak of him, some long term, and they are shocked. I think he could have fooled Jen, too. 🤷‍♂️

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад

      Predators are good at manipulating & very deceptive.

  • @SirJaymesDAudelée
    @SirJaymesDAudelée 6 месяцев назад +2

    I noticed that when she said “we”, the diddler was in the background. Yet when she corrected herself, it was from a different perspective, and I wondered if he were gone at that point, and so she felt comfortable telling the truth. Because he was obviously lurking in the background to assert coercion over her while being interviewed.
    Basically, I think the fact that the diddler was coercing her into going along with a story of his concoction is more than obvious at this point.
    If she had much to do with the actual abuse perpetrated upon her daughter by the diddler, she would likely be in custody by now.
    I don’t believe rumours that she “watched”. It would be almost unprecedented for a mother to consent & willingly watch the sexual assault of her own daughter. I mean really unprecedented. It’s just not going to happen.
    Not saying she didn’t know or suspect something, but some people just want to make salacious claims. We don’t need to make the poor girls ordeal anymore salacious than it already is, right. Like that’s pretty demented.
    In the end, if the truth comes out, I expect it to be that Jennifer’s actions will not be well received by the public, but that she’s more likely to be seen as another victim of this diddler. Remember, diddlers need to put a lot of time and effort into selecting just the right mother, who has no self esteem, a macabre sense of morals, and who responds to threats in a way that suggests she can be easily dominated and coerced and controlled. She is first on his list of victims, because children have people guarding them. He will have tried his very hardest to find a guardian that will not do her job properly, otherwise the whole thing is a waste of his time.

  • @shirleybush9579
    @shirleybush9579 6 месяцев назад +8

    How could he get her in the car without anyone seeing him? Where are the cameras, that would show that?

    • @LydiaTheDog-op9wy
      @LydiaTheDog-op9wy 6 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe because it wasn't at their condo when he killed her. There's no evidence that he ever brought her home that night.

    • @beccagee5905
      @beccagee5905 6 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@LydiaTheDog-op9wyHe drove back with her in the car, after supposedly dropping her off near the school in the morning, but the police think she was already deceased. We don't know if he took her out of the car, or maybe just ran inside and left her in the car, but then left again, and was gone for hours.

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад

      @@LydiaTheDog-op9wy2 different counties.

  • @catherineseiler7407
    @catherineseiler7407 6 месяцев назад +12

    Ahh, Maddie was beautiful, that poor child, what a life

  • @SigMaQuint
    @SigMaQuint 2 месяца назад +2

    I think we learned a lot about the culture surrounding Madeline. Her mother’s lack balance is obvious.

  • @realist4real
    @realist4real 6 месяцев назад +12

    Thanks, this has been enlightening! F the haters and trolls.

  • @marelize9726
    @marelize9726 6 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you, Gray, and to your guest. Love and prayers for Maddie.🙏❤️🙏

  • @brigittebowman9113
    @brigittebowman9113 6 месяцев назад +9

    Thanks for these insights and thoughts, Gray and Josh. It's bewildering all of this: is Jenn involved, isn't she? I still tend towards her not being aware of anything that was going on, but time will tell.
    Like i said in your live the other day, my friend's neice died at age 9 in a somewhat similar situation. The person who drugged her and apparently overdosed Sam by accident, was only known in passing in the community by her mother. He was trusted by many single mothers to babysit their children, but he'd never babysat Samantha. Her mother would come home from work roughly ten minutes after Samantha got home from school. The day this occurred, Sam went downstairs to the newsagent next door to their block of flats, to buy some lollies. In that tiny window she encountered this friendly man who gave her a can of coke and she obviously wandered off with him. She was drugged by Michael Guider and sexually abused. His story when he was eventually identified, was that he had given her too much of the sedative and she'd passed away. In all the years he was in prison, my friend's sister wrote to him to find out where her child's body was, but to this day he's never revealed that information and he's now been released from prison. I think he was charged with manslaughter, however a cell mate of his said he'd told him that Sam had woken up and he'd strangled her because she could identify him. We don't know which is true. What did come out, was that he'd been drugging and abusing many, many little girls, some of whom have given interviews. He should never have been released of course in our opinion and it beggars belief what this guy had been getting away with for years. People in his local area trusted him, as I said. If you're interested in the case, the child's name was Samantha Knight.
    Anyway, I wonder if Stephan had been drugging Madeline for his own sick purposes for years and this time it went wrong. It could also have been an intentional homicide because she was pregnant or going to tell, as you and others have suggested. The timing is so strange with this being the day after her 13th birthday party. The problem will be getting the truth out of a practiced liar and pervert, though at least they have Maddie's body in this case. My mother's instincts tell me Jenn couldn't have been involved in such horror, but perhaps im being naive there and its wishful thinking.
    I must say, in photographs I've seen of Madeline, she often looks almost hungover, so i strongly suspect he'd been drugging her. Jenn seems thick as two short planks to me, so it wouldn't surprise me if she was completely oblivious to the goings on. As I said, time will tell.
    Thanks again, Gray and Josh for this interview.

    • @LydiaTheDog-op9wy
      @LydiaTheDog-op9wy 6 месяцев назад +1

      She lied for him to cover up the murder.

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@LydiaTheDog-op9wyand may not have known what was going on until it was too late.

    • @vertrouwmij8479
      @vertrouwmij8479 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your heartbreaking story of Sam…and for your wise reaction about involvement or not from Jennifer Soto

  • @singlewhitefemale1707
    @singlewhitefemale1707 6 месяцев назад +7

    Such a sick case... Disgusting to say the least. Such heartache for Madeline 💔💔💔

  • @schindlersredemption
    @schindlersredemption 6 месяцев назад +6

    This guy is really keen to blame the mom. We all want her to face the consequences of her role in this, but c'mon man. The evidence thus far shows what a monster this man is and was.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +3

      he didn't seem "Keen" as you are trying to sell. He merely posed it as a theory that they bother were involved. He also said she isn't mentally stable and is bipolar which she admits in various posts. Hear what people say not what your moral superiority wants to hear.

    • @schindlersredemption
      @schindlersredemption 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@GrayHughesInvestigates just my humble opinion as listener. No harm intended.

  • @debra5514
    @debra5514 6 месяцев назад +1

    My daughters went to Kissimmee ( Osceola county ) schools- they don’t call the parent if your child is absent . It’s unbelievable.

  • @rosemariepennella6149
    @rosemariepennella6149 6 месяцев назад +2

    I still don't believe the mother is involved. He may have given Maddie a sleep drug and she passed. Maybe he gave both of them a drug (the mother to help her sleep) and to Maddie so he could take advantage of her). We will probably find out soon enough.

  • @lauriemadsen3786
    @lauriemadsen3786 6 месяцев назад +6

    From what I've heard the mom now has atty so we won't be hearing anything from her.

  • @bradmccombs3925
    @bradmccombs3925 6 месяцев назад +5

    I have a feeling mom may have committed the murder I a fight over steins. Possibly and only because mom is acting so crazy and scared. Maybe she found out and looked at it like an affair rather then abuse. She was bi polar. Then he knew he would have to help cover It up or he was going to be busted for his perverted sh?t

    • @Sunn777
      @Sunn777 6 месяцев назад

      I learned from a diff channel that the guest, a retired cop was informed that the relationship between J & her daughter was bad. They argued often.

  • @victorrovetto2233
    @victorrovetto2233 6 месяцев назад +8

    It would be nice to have one of the mother’s friend too

  • @Theiconnextdoor
    @Theiconnextdoor 6 месяцев назад +5

    Wow i definitely think theres a possibility jen participated and it sounds like he thinks so too. I really appreciate this friend sharing his thoughts and experiences. 🙏🏼

  • @MaribethKing-j5v
    @MaribethKing-j5v 6 месяцев назад +2

    They were both involved. I raised three children and I always knew what went on in my home.

  • @lindahowell1787
    @lindahowell1787 6 месяцев назад +19

    Great interview. Each friend seems to have varying degrees of what they saw in him,, so he is good at letting who he wants to see what. RIP Maddie🕊🦋🕊

  • @awill2329
    @awill2329 6 месяцев назад +4

    When he gave that story about people in a house and one starts seizing, yess yes I would call for help. I still don’t get it, jail is better than losing someone or the guilt even if not trying.

  • @SassySouthernSusan
    @SassySouthernSusan 6 месяцев назад +12

    Caller & Gray are spot on with everything!

  • @karawilhouski6445
    @karawilhouski6445 6 месяцев назад +4

    Unfortunately & regrettably you didn’t elaborate or inquire for further clarification on the seemingly shared living situation, but friend is essentially indicating that living in this FOUR bedroom, 2-floor condo was primarily Jenn’s family’s, perhaps Maddy’s grandmother &/or aunt, & then Jenn & Maddy lived there as well, and I presume Stephan came & went, staying with Jenn. That’s what I’m getting based on Josh’s reflections above. That living scenario would would make a bunch of things make sense…
    Thoughts? Clarification?

  • @johncafiero9636
    @johncafiero9636 6 месяцев назад +7

    He may have tried to force her to miscarry if she was prego and went too far..... So many possibilities buy Mom definitely knew or had something to do with it which is why it's taking so long to charge anyone with her death

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад +4

      They have pills you can buy at the pharmacy for an intentional miscarriage/ abortion.

  • @wilyinfidel1091
    @wilyinfidel1091 6 месяцев назад +2

    This guy sounds like Ray Manzerek of “the doors” talking about Jim Morrison,always trying to keep himself and his old band relevant.

  • @chartmann43
    @chartmann43 6 месяцев назад +37

    I think the crying part was because he realized he did the ultimate evil

    • @stephygeorge79
      @stephygeorge79 6 месяцев назад +17

      I think he was crying for himself! He had been doin the "ultimate" evil for years

    • @venericanone
      @venericanone 6 месяцев назад +13

      And it wasn't a real convincing cry to me anyways

    • @anitaweldon8533
      @anitaweldon8533 6 месяцев назад +2

      I agree as well, when I saw him crying I thought the same thing, because he realized what he had done.

    • @beachydee854
      @beachydee854 6 месяцев назад +12

      crocodile tears....there were no tears! He was not really crying.

    • @sherri5470
      @sherri5470 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@stephygeorge79 I agree he was crying for himself

  • @Carolinec222
    @Carolinec222 6 месяцев назад +7

    I wonder if the mother cleaned up the murder scene while he ‘drove her to school’. The mother was reciting the story as if they wanted to get their stories straight.

  • @xonsightx
    @xonsightx 6 месяцев назад +7

    I have found your channel because of this Soto case. I appreciate what you do. If this case blows up on YT then be thankful because people like me find you. Not your viewers watching some other YT channel. I heard you on the last video saying something to that effect and I wanted you to know I found your channel thanks to it. It works in your favor I'm thinking not against you. I didn't mention this in the last video I watched because I forgot to. Anyways please keep these type of videos coming man. I've subscribed and liked each video I've watched that you've made.

    • @GrayHughesInvestigates
      @GrayHughesInvestigates  6 месяцев назад +2

      it has blown up on youtube, however people would much rather watch drama channels regarding this case.

    • @rosalindr4975
      @rosalindr4975 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@GrayHughesInvestigatesthe drama & speculation on other channels is unbelievable

  • @emmym1517
    @emmym1517 3 месяца назад +1

    This man Josh is a terrible judge of character. He is obviously messed up and makes it all okay. He’s one of those conspiracy people who won’t see reality and FACTS.

  • @sharongornic7418
    @sharongornic7418 6 месяцев назад +3

    The whole situation is just so odd to me. But great interview!

  • @isof1341
    @isof1341 6 месяцев назад +1

    Some friend! If he thought "all 3 were doing something...kinky..." why didn't he call LE or CPS?

  • @Anna-ok1je
    @Anna-ok1je 6 месяцев назад +10

    Great Interview!

  • @pennyc11
    @pennyc11 6 месяцев назад +3

    This guy is disturbing. Cops should check hid phone.

    • @sassyfrass4295
      @sassyfrass4295 6 месяцев назад

      Florida Cops have been making news with loads of arrests for child trafficking etc... over the past few years. the place is covered up with Creeps. So much so the State passed Law for Death as the Penalty. Cleaning up the gene pool is needed at this point!

  • @mariannescalise6658
    @mariannescalise6658 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's was said it had 4 bedrooms I think 2 baths condo! ?? Her shakiness I don't know that could be from her emotional problems!! Because of her emotional problems it was horrible to sit there and talk it's traumatizing for her that's why I am sure a advocate for the police dept told her not to say anything else ! Or if she got an attorney, Because people are already saying terrible things about her I am sure the police have checked out a lot already he already has a capital charge, so that already would be life or death so the police are dotting all the i' s and crossing the t's to make sure they have all the evidence they need ! For a Capital homicide charge ! They have plenty of time somebody else said he could be involved in some type of child pornography ring some guy on another channel on U tube said he was involved in a child p. Ring but no one knows if that guy is creditable! I.hope they got a warrant for his parents house where he still had a room there, there could be other evidence there I am sure they did! There is a lot of evidence they have we won't know until it is released!! MY OPINION! MY OPINION

  • @PFFlyer64
    @PFFlyer64 6 месяцев назад +1

    I THOUGHT he looked stoned in his interview. He gives off vibes of like a 15 year old stoner, with he cap on backwards and his strange obsessions.

  • @loislane856
    @loislane856 6 месяцев назад +1

    This guy is heading for the chair..regardless..he murdered this child..stop coming up with excuses for this monster

  • @MaribethKing-j5v
    @MaribethKing-j5v 6 месяцев назад +1

    Think about Maddie's text saying that when she turned 13 she would live in the woods. Perhaps that is why this monster buried her in the woods. Hmm

  • @amberkarim9239
    @amberkarim9239 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for calling and sharing
    Josh sorry to hear aboout your Dad I know what you mean about running out of tears.

  • @miap.s.795
    @miap.s.795 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yes he cared about her at some point…cared about her in all the wrong ways which means he didn’t care for HER at all, she was a tool for him. We know this.

  • @Bossyboston2957
    @Bossyboston2957 3 месяца назад +2

    Well said sir 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @phoenixlight1111
    @phoenixlight1111 6 месяцев назад +1

    This guy is speculating some awful stuff and it's so disrespectful all the way around, shame on him.

  • @Georgie3463
    @Georgie3463 6 месяцев назад +1

    He didn't have pornography on his phone. He had child sexual assault and abuse on his phone

  • @worthdiamonds4159
    @worthdiamonds4159 6 месяцев назад +1

    THEY FOUND PICT AND VIDEOS WAS RECORDING MAD AND THIS 💩. WHO'S THE 3RD PARTY. HER MOM. THIS HAPPENED AT HOME SHE EAS THERE

  • @annmoore8696
    @annmoore8696 6 месяцев назад +3

    A Four Bedroom is a Four Bedroom ❗

    • @sassyfrass4295
      @sassyfrass4295 6 месяцев назад +1

      How does a single mom have Four bedrooms? She doesn't come across as a professional that could afford such at all.

    • @annmoore8696
      @annmoore8696 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@sassyfrass4295 Selling Nasty Pics with Boyfriend ❗ SICK 🤢

    • @TEBme-sf1it
      @TEBme-sf1it 22 дня назад +1

      @@sassyfrass4295
      The mother Jen Soto , her father bought her the townhouse when Maddie was born. It was to help with income by renting a couple of the bedrooms out.

  • @SigMaQuint
    @SigMaQuint 2 месяца назад +1

    He tells that they were a kinky couple, and that may be the reason for them being together.

  • @ogadlogadl490
    @ogadlogadl490 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think the boyfriend had mom convinced that Maddie had just run away and not to worry…. Maybe that why she seemed calmer than most mothers would be.. just a thought tho.

  • @StarlightSelenite
    @StarlightSelenite 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for having Josh on. And thanks Josh. I found this very informative. I’ve subscribed.

  • @worthdiamonds4159
    @worthdiamonds4159 6 месяцев назад +1

    THATS ALOT OF HRS FOR A CHILD TO B MISSING . ALOT OF HRS. TO TAKE UR CHILD TO ANOTHER COUNTRY😮😮😮

  • @bigd9848
    @bigd9848 6 месяцев назад +7

    Great interview GH 👊🏼Thanks for all you do

  • @bobbymckenzie3202
    @bobbymckenzie3202 6 месяцев назад +1

    The first news interview there was an actual person in front of her doing the interview, the second one was online. That seems to be the difference between the two as far as her body shakes and the way she acts imo

  • @worthdiamonds4159
    @worthdiamonds4159 6 месяцев назад +1

    I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT SCHOOL. Y THIS SCHOOL WAITS TIL THE END OF THE DAY TO CALL A PARENT TO LET THEM KNOW UR CHILD NEVER MADE IT TO SCHOOL 🤔🤔🤔🧐🧐🧐

  • @IHeArTrOcK20
    @IHeArTrOcK20 3 месяца назад +1

    I feel bad for josh and anyone who thought this guy was a "friend" or trustworthy. This would ruin my abiliyy to trust anyone!

  • @OnlyTheChronic
    @OnlyTheChronic 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great interview.. informative and gives us plenty of insight into these people but something is bothering me.. at the part where he said "Maybe they were all 3 doing ,,, together *laughs*) that sounds like he's implying that Maddie was a willing Participant and that simply could not have been the case so it's kind of disrespectful to the child Victim to phrase it that way. I also think this is the case, that they made her take part in their sick stuff . Thank you both for a really great interview!

  • @worthdiamonds4159
    @worthdiamonds4159 6 месяцев назад +1

    SHE'S RIGHT WE . SHE WAS MESSING UP. WHEN HE SUPPOSEDLY HAD A FLAT. WITNESSES REMEMBERED SEEING HIMM ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. THEY SAW HER IN THE CAR.

  • @ogadlogadl490
    @ogadlogadl490 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is plan B available in Florida? If so I would think the Plan B pill would be a whole lot easier to take care of pregnancy, versus murder of a 13-year-old. If the pill is not available then it seems more likely he’d be freaking …just a thought.

  • @jodiearrington
    @jodiearrington 6 месяцев назад +1

    They have to wait for the autopsy report before they can charge him with murder.

  • @KerryStarr-lk2yg
    @KerryStarr-lk2yg 6 месяцев назад +1

    He also messed up and referred to her in past tense during that interview. Saying she was instead of she is on one of the questions

  • @calgal5752
    @calgal5752 6 месяцев назад +1

    If I had been friends with this guy I wouldn’t want to admit it!

  • @cindyfields6534
    @cindyfields6534 6 месяцев назад +24

    It could have been the 3 of them and sexual strangulation went to far!!!! They both need to be sitting in jail period!!!!!!

    • @TifTif81
      @TifTif81 6 месяцев назад +3

      That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking too

    • @lindawilliams8124
      @lindawilliams8124 6 месяцев назад +2

      Absolutely!!!!!

    • @Beastmode-zx9gm
      @Beastmode-zx9gm 6 месяцев назад +4

      3 of them?

    • @cindyfields6534
      @cindyfields6534 6 месяцев назад

      Threesome

    • @BlackyboiDivs
      @BlackyboiDivs 6 месяцев назад +8

      3 of them? She’s a child. She shouldn’t be having 3somes at 13 let alone 11. Girl stop. The boyfriend and MOM are the 2 ones. Not the 3 ones