Dean Park Model Railway | January 2023 Update | New Office Build

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

Комментарии • 136

  • @malcolmmyatt9092
    @malcolmmyatt9092 Год назад +1

    Fantastic work and the new loco. Thank you for sharing.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @wild_rover2648
    @wild_rover2648 Год назад +1

    stunning work

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +2

      Many thanks. I’m really pleased with the latest project and how it went.

  • @cedarcam
    @cedarcam Год назад

    Great to see you added the better office detail, thats the kind of thing I like to do in buildings as well and does make them look a lot better at night. I have used some Preiser phones from an office set, they are tiny and hardly visible through a window. Glad to see the signal aspect is now correct as well.

  • @cyberleaderandy1
    @cyberleaderandy1 Год назад

    Really cool office build 😊. I was an aerospace engineering apprentice in 1981 and saw all the computers like those introduced. Tektronix and Commodore PETs were what we had but probably one to an office ( until the 90s) with cassette tapes or huge floppy discs and with fax machine's instead of emails 🙂

  • @roystudds1944
    @roystudds1944 Год назад +1

    Great video Dave. That office looks absolutely brilliant now. Really motivating me to get on with my layout now. Thanks for sharing. Roy.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers Roy. Yeah get building 😆 Dave

  • @gregoryhale2202
    @gregoryhale2202 Год назад +1

    Hi Dave, really enjoyed this video. The New Office Build was absolutely fantastic. Congrats. Cheers Greg

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers Greg. It was a good project to do over the Christmas period when it was very cold outside and the loft was not very warm either!

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer Год назад +1

    The only thing you left out of the office was...oh...nothing. Its amazing.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Haha. Oh there was more I’d love to add, such as phones, wall sockets, a wasp in the window etc… but they would just be too small and pointless.

  • @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932
    @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 Год назад +3

    Excellent Dave, you always set a fantastically high standard in your layout.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers. I do like to try get it to a good standard:l :-)

  • @martinjones5353
    @martinjones5353 Год назад

    Another great update at Dean Park.

  • @kerdazproductions4606
    @kerdazproductions4606 Год назад +2

    Hi Dave
    As always well done and inspiring
    As a Signalling engineer I am always interested in peoples understanding and application of signalling. During the 1980s I was in charge of a apprentice signalling training centre in Australia which was set up with the assistance of a Signalling engineer who ran a signalling training school in the UK. A couple of things of note often the facilities are not well funded so the facilities can be very basic as you mentioned. However we had a 1 x 486 PC a typewriter, printer and simple photocopier. The computers you have used appear to be IBM CPM type machines.
    The facilities we had included a workshop, kitchen area, class room signalling control / equipment room, bathroom and an area for the apprentices to eat there lunch.
    The staff had a small office are with 3 desks and swivel chairs One desk had the computer which was used to prepare course training materials. A cabinet with the photocopier on it room filing cabinet and storage shelf.
    In relation to the drawing board they are usually not as upright as the one you have chosen as the designer would sit at a drafting desk on a stool.
    As a side note much of the signalling here in Australia is based on what occurs in the UK with some variation for for local requirements. ie following the lead of the UK and Europe including signalling systems, track side equipment and standards.. The IRSE website is a good source of reference to signalling in the UK. There are also some good RUclips videos available.
    Keep up the great work
    Kind Regards

  • @RobertJackman
    @RobertJackman Год назад +1

    In the 80's and 90's I was using a monitor connected to a remote mini-computer from my office. It's not impossible that BR stations were also connected.

  • @ModelRailway
    @ModelRailway Год назад +4

    Enjoyable update … a good mix of projects … and yeah, a bit chilly recently to enjoy lofts/sheds comfortably! Glad you were able to improve the siding signal as well, looks good and the Heathcote boards are pretty versatile and well designed 👍

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      They are excellent boards. And as you say, very versatile. :-) cheers

  • @clippermuso
    @clippermuso Год назад +1

    Astonishing bit of work on the office interior. Looks fantastic.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Thanks. I enjoyed working on this scene.

  • @ewoodrailway
    @ewoodrailway Год назад

    That interior brings the building to life and that 37s a stunning addition

  • @alpetterson9452
    @alpetterson9452 Год назад

    Wow!!!!!!

  • @davidstokes8441
    @davidstokes8441 Год назад

    When I was the "new Boy" in the central division of the government department I worked in there was one IBM computer and 13 staff. I was the only one who knew how to operate it, and I used it to write my reports on. These reports though were given to the "office dragon and drug (coffee) pusher and she, bless her heart, typed them out on a Remington manual typewriter because that is how the Director expected them to be. From memory that was the only computer until 1990 when two more arrived. You have captured the feel really well.

  • @neilflood6508
    @neilflood6508 Год назад +4

    Impressive detail in your office building. It does lack one thing, an area dedicated to toilet facilities.

    • @modelrailroader5619
      @modelrailroader5619 Год назад +2

      That’s all I could think about!😂😂😂

    • @markcharlebois7129
      @markcharlebois7129 Год назад

      Lawn fertilizer! How do you think David gets his grass so green?! All he requirs is about half a dozen 3d printed characters dropping trousers along the layout

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +2

      It’s in the back office part. The part No one can see in.

    • @roystudds1944
      @roystudds1944 Год назад

      Great answer!

  • @MrVinnyh
    @MrVinnyh Год назад +2

    Hi Dave, enjoyed the update, seeing the figures made me recall you saying about lack of drivers from Bachmann, I have just purchased some 3d printed from Smart Models, they do both modern and 1980's style 5 for a fiver

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Yes I’m going to look into drivers for the new bachmann models. They need something.

  • @warwickroadmodelrailway
    @warwickroadmodelrailway Год назад +2

    Hi Dave, really great update, telecommunications centre with its interior looks amazing, I admire your attention to detail. All the best David

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers. I do enjoy adding tiny details. I relaxing way to spend a few evenings.

  • @barryturner2916
    @barryturner2916 Год назад

    Hi Dave the idea, design and build of the office area has in my opinion planted a few seeds for your subscribers I for one will be looking at the interior for the building next to my engine shed - thanks. As always its a pleasure to watch your video's many thanks for sharing, stay safe regards Barry..

  • @deansweeney8203
    @deansweeney8203 Год назад

    As always another great update especially like the class 37 look forward to the next one

  • @onnomulder9775
    @onnomulder9775 Год назад

    Awesome video Dave!! Well done! Very nice loco by the way!! Cheers Onno.

  • @ThePhosphater
    @ThePhosphater Год назад +1

    Great looking Office, love the detail. Think you could do with some radiators on the walls, to keep people warm.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Looking into that. Not sure who makes them.

  • @MarchWestJunctionTMD
    @MarchWestJunctionTMD Год назад

    Fantastic David 👍 absolutely brilliant very inspirational and has given me some ideas to add to my layout. Thank you for sharing.
    Keep safe and well my friend
    Andy

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +2

      Cheers. Really glad it’s being well received by people watching itz

  • @mels1811
    @mels1811 Год назад

    Excellent train layout

  • @goldenknight578
    @goldenknight578 Год назад +1

    The office looks great and really takes me back to the era. The only thing I might add would be a small framed photo on one of the desks of the worker's family/spouse/dog.

    • @1tonyboat
      @1tonyboat Год назад +1

      And a few Mayfair Mags 😂😂

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Might be too small. But good idea.

  • @baffiehalt3383
    @baffiehalt3383 Год назад

    As always fantastic attention to detail - congratulations! Just one wee thing… you said of the naming of the Class 37 Mary Queen of Scots “in Linlithgow of all places” - I think credit and congratulations to Scotrail are due for that one - a nice touch from them as it was in Linlithgow Palace where Mary was born!
    👑 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🤓👍

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Yes indeed. But very unusual for scotrail to stray from Edinburgh, Dundee or Glasgow for naming ceremonies.

  • @mickedgeleyparkstation5391
    @mickedgeleyparkstation5391 Год назад

    Some great work and update.👍

  • @eliotheasman5378
    @eliotheasman5378 Год назад

    Brilliant keep up good work

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Many thanks. Glad you liked it.

  • @georgethomas7814
    @georgethomas7814 Год назад +2

    Your modelling skills are brilliant, and the level of modeling is exceptional.
    Oh you forgot the plants at the door and that one lady that had one on her desk.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers. Funnily enough I’m looking for suitable pot plants in that gauge :-)

    • @georgethomas7814
      @georgethomas7814 Год назад +2

      @@DeanPark make the base with 1/3 of the dust bin/44g drums you can get. Add toothpick. Add green shrub. With a very fine brush dab white/pink/red on the very ends of some of the leafage. Practise you have three pot planters per drum. leftover toothpicks from gluing or other modelling activity. painting on flowers is optional but can be brilliant highlight to a very plain building.

  • @alastairwilson457
    @alastairwilson457 Год назад

    Great update Dave

  • @davidparry1968
    @davidparry1968 Год назад +1

    Love the 1st video of ‘23. If I’m not mistaken, the computers look very much like Commodores with the 3 1/2” floppy disk drive. Now that’s aged me a bit.

    • @goldenknight578
      @goldenknight578 Год назад +1

      I kept thinking that there should be a small pile of 3 1/2" floppies lying nearby one of the computers. That takes me way back.

    • @1tonyboat
      @1tonyboat Год назад +1

      Still using those computers where I work !!!!!😂😂

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Haha. They certainly ain’t running windows 95 that’s for sure!

  • @modelrailroader5619
    @modelrailroader5619 Год назад

    Very nice detailing in the office complex. If l was employed there I might be inclined to quit given the lack of restroom facilities!🥴😁

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      That’s in the back office lol

  • @NicholassTrainChannel
    @NicholassTrainChannel Год назад

    Nice update Dave. Amazing job on the office interior the attention to detail is just extraordinary. - Nicholas.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers :-) I do like adding the details.

  • @ChrisMarshallUS
    @ChrisMarshallUS Год назад +1

    That office layout is so cool, and wow do you have some patience sticking all those small pieces to make it more realistic.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      According to my wife I’m the least patient person she knows lol.

  • @duncancampbell452
    @duncancampbell452 Год назад

    The class 37 from bachmann looks good I've got class 37685 intercity colours got that a few years ago worth looking into purchasing.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Ah I’ve got that. Looks lovely in swallow livery doesn’t it.

  • @garrylennox25
    @garrylennox25 Год назад

    It would be nice to see a pan around the room to give an idea of the space and progress etc please. Thankyou

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Previous videos I’ve don’t shots from one end looking along the whole layout. I usually do it in my layout tours. Or cab ride videos

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 Год назад

    Great update here Dave, some great work on the office building, you certainly like the new tool 37 from bachmann, I’m still wanting to pick up the Cwmbran version, keep up the good work.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Cheers. Hope you like your 37 when you get it. Lovely models.

  • @diesel1395
    @diesel1395 Год назад

    Nice video ,37401 looks very smart . Hopefully Bachmann will be releasing more class 37s this year .😊

  •  Год назад

    Great video as usual. 😃👍

  • @lapiswake6583
    @lapiswake6583 Год назад

    The office looks fantastic. The only thing I'd change is to add more lights that are dimmer, so it doesn't look as patchy in the day, and I'd probably make the outside lights look less like LEDs too.
    I have 37430 in the latest bachmann tooling, since Bachmann hasn't done that loco before, and it's nice, although from a distance it isn't much better than the previous 21-pin release (which was probably about the same step up from the original 8-pin release). I haven't given it a proper run because I am no longer living with my parents so don't have access to Ashbrooke Central, and I don't have space for a layout until we buy our current flat (then I'll need a loft ladder, a wider loft hatch, the loft boarding out and insulating before I can make a start up there. The garage also needs an electric supply and insulating if i'm gonna do stuff in there too), but I do know it runs quietly and smoothly, having run it in at club. I have 2 8-pin and 8 21-pin bachmann 37/4s atm as well as the new 430, with the accurascale 37423 (with WIPACs, unlike bachmann's new model which is of it before it became unique) on order. I also have a split and centre box /0, an ex-split box and a centre box /5, an ex-split box /7, and 905 from bachmann, all 21-pin, as well as 37610 and 97301 on order from Accurascale, but there's several more variants I want to order (025, 099, an ex-split box /6, a centre box /7, 906, and the other 3 97/3s) at some point.
    It looks like the white lights come on before the green changes to red, and the signal should always change to danger before it gives a different proceed aspect. However, given your explanation of the adaption, I don't think this can be further improved upon.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      The signal chance is as good as it can be. Due to the complex nature of the signalling and heathcote board there is nothing more I can do. Getting it to work like this required a lot of thought. Glad it works now.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam Год назад

      @@DeanPark I guess the signal can be set to red at any time so to get round that could you set it to red change the point then set it to green again which would because the points are now changed show the white lights.

  • @trainmanbob
    @trainmanbob Год назад +1

    Beautiful detail as always Dave in the building. Perhaps if one was to be a bit pedantic, some plug sockets and mains leads to the computers? Mains leads can be easily made from strands from multicore cable, brushed in grey or black matt paint and then dipped in superglue.
    Cheers, Bob

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +2

      I am not sure my eyes and tweezers could handle those single strands 😆

  • @andrewstevenson5449
    @andrewstevenson5449 Год назад

    Great work all round. Have to admit that I'm a bit surprised that a British Rail Office was so hi-tech in the late 80s/early 90s. I guess BR were trialling computers at Dean Park
    Also, have to say, I'm not sure about the lighting colour: fluorescent tubes have always seemed to me a bit of a cold, greeny-blue light, while it's the street lights that were orange. It was only about three years ago they replaced the orangey street lights in my road with bright white LEDs!
    Those figures really are streaks ahead of what used to be available, aren't they?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      I’m trying to convey and office transitioning to computers, hence there aren’t many. The led one is one of choice as the led without the lightest of yellow painted on them were too pinky.
      The figures are very very good. I’d recommend these and those from modelu.

  • @FrustratedApe
    @FrustratedApe 5 месяцев назад

    Just studying this now as I am building some office buildings, absolutely fantastic work Dave. I work in IT but my era is before mainstream computers so I am also thinking of modelling some VDU's attached to a mainframe. I think that larger machine that you have on a desk could be a Telex machine? I'm also considering orange carpets like the old RBS building in Kirkcaldy High Street!

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  5 месяцев назад

      Cheers! Glad you like it. A organs carpet is essential for pre 1980’s offices! Scale model scenery do printed carpet tile sheets that I used on my office. They do an orange option!

  • @garylong7599
    @garylong7599 Год назад

    Dave have you seen the film “the navigators”? This is set in 1995 during privatisation and includes internal scenes of a BR depot you will be surprised how basic it was. When I did my first PTS course this was at Euston and they had a track section on the roof there was a classroom setup,with plain desks for the remainder of the training course which then utilised the track section outside

  • @ClydebridgeStation
    @ClydebridgeStation Год назад

    Great updates Dave, as ever! The retaining wall will look great. 37401 later had its number moved from the bottom to below the cab window, and had them white. 37409 Loch Awe was the first 37/4 to receive the white number style. However, I didn't think 37401 moved to Cardiff Canton in 1989, as according to Locomotives and Coaching Stock 1990, it was still an Eastfield machine, in the FGTE pool. I do know 37407/8/22 were moved to Cardiff on 24th January 1989. But it's a fine machine, alas, as it's a 37, it won't be able to appear at Clydebridge!

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      I got my information from a record of the loco movements during its operational life.

  • @rebeccarouse7776
    @rebeccarouse7776 Год назад +1

    Looks great! Unless I missed it during the video of all the details then it would seem like it's a telecommunications office with no phones? Just a tiny detail, literally with how small I imagine they would be.
    Fantastic work.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Hi, yes good point. They are so tiny though you can’t see the detail.

  • @paulflyer8891
    @paulflyer8891 Год назад

    Hi Dave, as always a very informative video. I was interested in your signalling update because I have noticed several discrepancies in your signalling, but thought you weren't too bothered about them. However, having heard what you said in this video I can help you out if you wish. Just so as you have context, I'm coming from 26 years train driving experience and 3 years in a senior signalling grade. Always happy to help if you want it, as the amount of good advice you have given me in scenic and electrical matters has been invaluable.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Cheers. Signalling a layout is a challenge, there are compromises due to space and sometimes accuracy can suffer very slightly.

  • @hirsutusi5536
    @hirsutusi5536 Год назад +1

    You need to add some private transport outside the telecomm office building unless those guys use company cars to go to and from home. Otherwise nice office setup.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Thanks. Look at 2.00 minutes in the video. There are some workers cars :-) I like to shuffle them around during the video.

    • @cedarcam
      @cedarcam Год назад

      @@DeanPark A lot of trainees would come by train in those days. BR provided a minibus to take them from the station to the school or you used public transport to get there like from Waverley to Slateford school, so not seeing many cars parked is quite correct.

  • @Enviro4000
    @Enviro4000 Год назад

    Very impressive, one thought, if it's 1980s era, would the street lights be orange light rather than white.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      I’m considering that too. :-)

  • @alness1289
    @alness1289 Год назад +1

    How about a video on the new H M7000 Does it interest you ?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      I can’t do a video on something I don’t have. Or don’t intend getting. I have a full Esu System, and I’m not intending moving back to hornby for layout control.

  • @johnthompson2772
    @johnthompson2772 Год назад +1

    Excellent video as per normal Dave. Your attention to detail is a credit to you. I try to emulate this myself but I’m not to your standard I’m afraid !
    Just a note on the Class 37 you introduced. It could be an optical illusion , but is the ‘401’ not straight in line with the prefix 37?
    It looks off set to me which would bug me. Especially with the price tag for the deluxe version.
    Keep the videos coming !

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Hi, thanks for watching and I’m really chuffed you enjoyed it. With the 37, it’s an illusion thankfully lol. But I’ll check it again just to make sure. :-)
      Bachmann have history of researching the model so closely and if the loco has a larger or small number or tiny alteration it would appear on the model.
      Cheers
      Dave

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 Год назад

    You forgot the half eaten box of doughnuts in the office lol ;)

  • @daviemaclean61
    @daviemaclean61 Год назад

    I don't think any of my current buildings have windows big enough to warrant interiors as detailed as that, but it's looking good. The amount and variety of 3D printed stuff is staggering now. However, I haven't been tempted into buying a printer myself. Not keen on the chemicals and I don't have the design/computer skills! I'm quite happy to pay for someone elses skills

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Not for a 3D printer either. I’ll leave it to those with more skill and time on their hands to do that stuff for me :-)

  • @simonsummers9194
    @simonsummers9194 Год назад +1

    Hiya,may i ask where you got the yellow comma vans from please as been looking and cant seem to find them. Thanks

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Hi. They are an Oxford diecast van. Good luck finding them, I’ve been trying too…sold out everywhere :-(

  • @simonbradshaw3708
    @simonbradshaw3708 Год назад

    Thank you for another informative and interesting video, the office detail looks very good. I'm looking forward to seeing a comparison between Accurascale and Bachmann class 37 models. Will diesel smoke be the next thing to be included in a model like the class 55 prototype from Hornby?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Thanks. Yes I look forward to seeing the accurascale 37 too! Not sure about the point in smoke. Difficult to get it to look right…a lot of fumes came out of these locos. To make it authentic you’d be setting off your house smoke alarms! :-)

  • @jamesphillips1006
    @jamesphillips1006 Год назад

    More excellent work Dave. Could I ask how you cut the tunnel portal arch?! Cheers

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      I’ve a mate who’s got a small desktop laser cutter, about an a3 size one. I bribe him with sweets and beer!

    • @jamesphillips1006
      @jamesphillips1006 Год назад

      That would explain the perfect arch!

  • @chapelhousemodelrailway1700
    @chapelhousemodelrailway1700 Год назад

    Really like the office furniture-makes a lot of difference. Cheers Mike.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      It certainly does. Amazing what 3D printers can do!

  • @richardandrews6754
    @richardandrews6754 Год назад

    I like the music goes perfectly with a spot of primer spraying! who is the guitarist?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +1

      Just a bit of music from RUclips music library. This one was called ‘morning stroll’

    • @richardandrews6754
      @richardandrews6754 Год назад

      @@DeanPark that was quick only just getting to the end of your video. Excellent as always. the office looks much better

  • @thelibrarian46
    @thelibrarian46 Год назад

    Is there somewhere for the apprentices to sit and have their sandwiches at lunchtime at the signal center?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      Yes that’s in the area to the left, where it can’t be seen through the windows… I decided not to detail it all in that area as you can’t see it and it would be using up (not cheap) 3D printed items :-)

  • @doogs126
    @doogs126 Год назад

    Great update as always. What rating of resistors did you use on the signalling centre? You should check out Hardys Hobbies for 3D printed figures, they do all sorts including diesel loco crews.

  • @JB-ek4yx
    @JB-ek4yx Год назад

    80s office chairs didn't have features like lumbar support or back & height adjustment because RSI wasn't invented yet! 😆

  • @anitasuejones4793
    @anitasuejones4793 Год назад

    Hi Dave another great update. I must of missed something from a previous video. Where is the tunnel portal situated? Are you going to ModelRail Scotland this year?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      At the incline at the west end of the layout. :-)

  • @brianperrie3960
    @brianperrie3960 Год назад

    Hi Dave. Are you exhibiting Dean Park at Model Rail Scotland this year? I was at last year`s but I don`t remember seeing your layout.

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      It’s not an exhibition layout. It’s permanently built in my attic. Cheers.

  • @claptnei
    @claptnei Год назад

    Hello Dave, are the buildings kit or scratch built?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      They are from scalescenes range but adapted for my own use.

  • @TheSonofruss
    @TheSonofruss Год назад

    They generally put in marbles In spray cans

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад

      I thought they would have a chance of chipping or cracking.

    • @TheSonofruss
      @TheSonofruss Год назад

      @@DeanPark I have taken a few apart and found glass marbles in the cans I have no idea what kind of glass they use though

  • @Jack-bf1dv
    @Jack-bf1dv Год назад +2

    Do you own any steam engine models?

    • @DeanPark
      @DeanPark  Год назад +2

      Yeah a few A4’s and an A3 flying Scotsman.