The Weird True Story Behind Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024

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  • @MusicMongoose
    @MusicMongoose  2 дня назад +1

    What’s your favourite Dire Straits tune? 🤔

    • @StamfordBridge
      @StamfordBridge День назад +1

      Love Over Gold.

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  День назад

      @@StamfordBridge Great choice

    • @ROGER2095
      @ROGER2095 День назад +1

      Besides Sultans of Swing, I also like Telegraph Road and Twisting by the Pool.

    • @martineldritch
      @martineldritch День назад +3

      Skateaway "Toro, toro, taxi, see ya tomorrow, my son"

    • @thomaswigfield7623
      @thomaswigfield7623 День назад +2

      Private Investigations.

  • @svenolofandersson2572
    @svenolofandersson2572 День назад +50

    I once proposed that my cover band should be called ”Consultants of Swing” but I was voted down.

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  День назад +3

      Brilliant 🤣

    • @Lengsel7
      @Lengsel7 День назад +1

      I think that's a great name, and works on at least a few levels.

    • @PeterSokol-bl5vz
      @PeterSokol-bl5vz День назад

      So the rest of the band knew you were an idiot….nice.

    • @JTPiano2011
      @JTPiano2011 День назад

      I vote yes

    • @allanwilson8878
      @allanwilson8878 21 час назад

      Well, your band mates were wrong! 😅

  • @AnneDowson-vp8lg
    @AnneDowson-vp8lg 2 дня назад +11

    I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard 'Sultans of Swing.' In a car passing a ploughed field outside the Yorkshire village of Drighlington near Bradford, on my way for a weekend in London with my cousins. It was March 1979, and when we got to London, this song was pouring out of every pub, cafe and shop
    It was the soundtrack of that whole weekend. For a while, I thought that Dire Straits were American, until I heard Tunnel of Love, where they sing about Whitley Bay and the Spanish City funfair. Having other family in the North East, I used to go to the Spanish City with my Geordie cousins in the 1960s. Before the start of Radio One, fairgrounds were one of the few places you could hear the latest pop and rock music. Of course, I have been a great fan of Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler ever since and I'm 73 now. Great memories!

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  2 дня назад +1

      That’s an epic story - thanks so much for sharing! 😁

  • @tigerflicks5958
    @tigerflicks5958 День назад +15

    You missed a nice bit of trivia. He named the two players Harry and George after Harry Vanda and George Young - the rhythm section and songwriters of Aussie band The Easybeats (Friday on my Mind). They later became major producers in Australia and produced the first few albums of George’s younger brothers, Angus and Malcom band - AC/DC. They also wrote and produced John Paul Young’s Love is in the Air. And they also had chart success with their alter-egos Flash and the Pan - Waiting on a train.

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  День назад +2

      Ooh, I did miss that! That’s brilliant, thanks for sharing 😀

    • @stephenmcg4299
      @stephenmcg4299 День назад +1

      More trivia: both Dire Straits and AC/DC are bands formed by brothers from Glasgow after they had left the city. 😁

    • @AndyMaherVoicePro
      @AndyMaherVoicePro День назад +1

      After an interview I saw with David Knopfler, I suspect 'Harry' was actually Harry Bogdanovs, who made his own impact in Australia. He was the songwriter of "Pressure Down", a single and opening track on John Farnham's "Whispering Jack", still one of Australia's best-selling albums.

    • @dockerdave
      @dockerdave 19 часов назад

      Came here to say the same thing

    • @catinthehat906
      @catinthehat906 13 часов назад

      @@stephenmcg4299 Interesting, I thought he was a Geordie, but it seems he was born in Glasgow and brought up in Newcastle.

  • @Dancehip
    @Dancehip День назад +3

    I was listening to that song not too long ago, and though I've heard it ever since it was released (yes, I'm that old) I was knocked out by how assured and masterful the playing sounds. It's so hard to believe that this was their debut single from their very first record. They sound like complete pros. Great, great song.

  • @martineldritch
    @martineldritch День назад +3

    When I was a kid listening to songs I didn't fully understand on the radio in the late '70s I just instinctively knew that Sultans of Swing and Walk on the Wild Side were two of the coolest songs I ever heard and possibly ever would hear

  • @bart7695
    @bart7695 20 часов назад +3

    Dutchie here: As phonogram was a Dutch lable owned by Phillips, the first time Sultans came out was as a 7"single in the Netherlands (Vertigo 6059 206). It was a different version and based on the original Pathway demo.

  • @Retroscoop
    @Retroscoop День назад +6

    You also have to describe the specific situation of the 2nd half of the 1970's, with on the one hand the disco craze and on the other hand punk. For people hoping for something else, the arrival of Dire Straits was a present from heaven. It filled an enormous gap for people wanting to hear something else (for a while) than dancing music à la Chic or Bee Gees, and who got "not exactly" a high esteem or admiration for the deliberately un-musical punkers. To me, this first record has never been surpassed by the band, it remains my favorite one, second, the one with Private Investigations, third the one with Lady Writer.

    • @John-isAround
      @John-isAround День назад

      @Retroscoop I remember back then thinking Van Halen had saved rock and roll. The B-52s (Rock Lobster), along with Blonde- Rapture (with rap lyrics), Cheap Trick tunes, Abba, and so many more.

  • @normanpeterson8744
    @normanpeterson8744 11 часов назад +1

    Graduated high school in 1979 🎸
    I remember this gorgeous tune was all over the radio the fall of 78. Never knew that those guys could barely pay the gas man when this gem was written. This was an awesome history lesson.
    Ta Very Much! 🇬🇧

    • @normanpeterson8744
      @normanpeterson8744 8 часов назад

      Just remembered. I recorded this debut album on a Memorex Cassette Tape, right off FM Radio.
      "In The Gallery" is my other favorite. 😎

  • @peterthehook
    @peterthehook 20 часов назад +4

    This is close . My uncle Harry Holbird played piano in a swing band in Deptford my uncle Tom played drums .
    The Admiral Ben Bow pub They played ok . Harry's big gig was to play for Tony Bennet at the Albert Hall . Bennett pianist didn't have a work permit so they asked Harry to step in.

  • @greggorsag9787
    @greggorsag9787 2 дня назад +9

    I suspect Knopfler’s story reflects an amalgam of memories, ideas, and daydreams. So there may not be a real “Sultans of Swing,” but of course there is, too.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand 15 часов назад +2

    I always smile when I hear the line "Way down South, London Town". I don't think you could ever really get the full irony unless you knew South London.

    • @catinthehat906
      @catinthehat906 13 часов назад

      From Newcastle, London is 'way down south'.

    • @yesihavereadit
      @yesihavereadit 13 часов назад +1

      No maps of S London back then, the pages in thr AZ were blank. Dragons, people with no heads , faces on their chests,

    • @jafar4marva
      @jafar4marva 5 часов назад +1

      For sure!😂

  • @n2music174
    @n2music174 15 часов назад

    GREAT work Sir ! I Absolutely remember the first time I heard this song all those years ago, I knew it was a very special tune. Unbelieveable guitar work !!

  • @larrywishon8084
    @larrywishon8084 День назад +6

    Simple ? It's not simple. Bluesy ? It's not Blusey. It's a standard "Gypsy" chord progression, Dm C Bb A7 followed by a Countryish F C Bb C Dm. When I first heard this I Bb thought it was Bob Dylan with a hot guitar player (maybe Albert Lee). The fills/solos are one of the best solos of all time. Knopfler, had to play those fills, live (while he sang lead) whichnis no easy task. He ended up doing the B.B. King thing (singing while doing his own fills).I guess he must've practiced it for hours & hours.

  • @tr5947
    @tr5947 17 часов назад +2

    It's ashamed that even with the "fair use" laws a fine video like this can't afford to play part of the song out of fear of being demonetized. Absurd.

  • @cosmicallyspeaking871
    @cosmicallyspeaking871 23 часа назад +1

    🥰The demo version of 'Sultans Of Swing' sounds even better than the re-recorded album version!🧡It is raw, unpolished and kind of edgy that makes me want to listen to it over & over again.💖

  • @artistglyn
    @artistglyn 14 часов назад

    I was living in Holland when it came out. It was everywhere. In all the bars and clubs in The Hague. Magic days.....that whole album was great. 'Sultans' is still my favourite track.

  • @jeffmason
    @jeffmason День назад +1

    The demo was recorded at Pathway Studios in Islington which I was using in the mid 80’s, it had a great reputation even though it was only 8 track and a lot of well known bands were using it

  • @sslaytor
    @sslaytor 16 часов назад

    I was hanging out in a coffee shop which hosted, bluegrass, folk, jazz, various types of rock. Every body who played there immediately worked on learning this song. Even people who were never going to play it live - they wanted to know how to play Guitar George's chords! A country song, about jazz music, played by a rock band!

  • @johnfoster7428
    @johnfoster7428 22 часа назад +1

    In the 1980s we went on holiday to Yugoslavia (present day Croatia)
    It was a communist country and although it was lovely, life was very basic and non-western. The hotel was very "soviet" but there was a beach bar next door to the hotel.
    The played Sultans of Swing back to back all day every day. Turned out it was the only song they had.
    We became friendly with the bar owner and loaned him some other cassettes that we had taken with us. We left them with him when we left.

  • @sephdm
    @sephdm День назад +2

    Always assumed the same thing that they were called that name but if you were listening to the story I'm not sure why you say this still because knoffler was just saying that was an offhand remark at the end of the night he didn't actually say that was the name of the band. I took it he meant that was how the bandleader described his band.

  • @adrianperry8352
    @adrianperry8352 14 часов назад

    I knew the band he was singing about - once passed the clarinettist at London Bridge station on his way home from the day job. My memory is that they were actually quite good.

    • @catinthehat906
      @catinthehat906 13 часов назад

      Were they called Sultans of Swing or something else?

  • @John-isAround
    @John-isAround 2 дня назад

    I arrived in Sicily May 6th of 78. Dire Straits was playing along with other good groups whilst I was there until my departure on August 12th, 1981, the same day as one of the band members birthday. Dire Straits songs were so good and fit in so well that I thought the music the band played had been influenced by them having a stay in Sicily. Taormina in Sicily turned out to be a place that was very special to the guy who wore headbands from sweating. Something else that went on August of 78 in Malta was that the place was playing nonstop Elvis music marking the 1st anniversary of his death. Also it may have been the summer of hearing "Funkytown" everywhere in the tourist seaside sunshine areas.

  • @robertfrazer8161
    @robertfrazer8161 День назад

    First time i heard Sultans of Swing was on Charlie Gillets Honky Tonk show on Radio London, it sounds as good today as it did then - never gets old!

  • @keithdf2001
    @keithdf2001 День назад +2

    I always thought a member of the band just made the joke that they were the Sultans of Swing but that was not the band's actual name.

  • @Meepsmusic63
    @Meepsmusic63 4 часа назад

    ps, I didnt realise mark and co had a strong part in slow train coming, that makes so much sence now. Thanks

  • @tomcoen4309
    @tomcoen4309 8 часов назад

    One of the best albums, top 10 on my list !

  • @Dutch52
    @Dutch52 День назад +4

    When I first heard this song I thought "Oh, Bob Dylan has taken vioice lessons"

    • @g4joe
      @g4joe 12 часов назад

      😄 Me too, first heard it Johannesburg late 70's. Thought Oh... Bob Dylan got a new one out. 😄🇬🇧

  • @neildwmcfarlane3402
    @neildwmcfarlane3402 2 дня назад +1

    On it's first release it was on The old grey whistle test.
    I
    Loved it immediately and bought the album.
    I
    Expected it to be a massive hit
    And
    It went nowhere.
    I
    Remember playing the song to any of my mates that came round ,for about a year.
    They
    All loved it.
    And
    About a year later it took off.
    I saw them live in Edinburgh
    On the Making Movies tour.
    They were brilliant
    The
    Next morning my flatmate was banging on my door.
    I
    Thought it was about the concert
    No
    He was knocking on my door to tell me John Lennon had been shot.
    At
    The concert the night before
    There had been a radio one interview with lennon and before the gig,that's all anybody was talking about.
    So
    The two are forever intertwined with me!
    😻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @John-isAround
      @John-isAround День назад

      @neildwmcfarlane3402 I was down in Sicily when John Lennon was killed, I then went to visit London as it mourned. I was drinking in a pub with a British World War 2 veteran who said he didn't understand what all the big fuss was about. I was passing through Germany when news came in that American actor John Wayne had died. I witnessed young people that normally may have made fun of him being somewhat shocked and at a loss for words.

  • @billholman279
    @billholman279 15 часов назад

    Excellent!! Thank you!!!

  • @dalegallacher7074
    @dalegallacher7074 День назад

    Knopfler is my favourite guitarist of all time …you gotta be on top of your game if you wanna share the stage with him

  • @thehighwayband
    @thehighwayband 10 часов назад

    I have heard this story about the "real" Sultans of Swing in various versions, but it always comes down to: why haven't they never come out? One of the possible reasons could have been that they were indeed so mediocre that they didn't want anybody to know the song was about them. But what struck me more was: the pub owner never took to publicly announcing that one of the greatest pop/rock songs ever was about a band playing in HIS pub. He, as well as the pub, would have been world famous at the spot, and no reason to be ashamed for the poor quality of the band. But, unto this day, no pub owner ever stated that Sultans of Swing was about a band performing in his pub. Maybe Mr Knopfler could shed a light on this?

  • @keithharrison3678
    @keithharrison3678 19 часов назад +1

    The song is almost 50 years old
    Whilst it was important when the song came out that the band that inspired the song remained nameless
    I think now some effort should be made to track them down & the pub they were playing in
    After all the band name inspired the song
    Plus some of their stage quotes are in the song

    • @jafar4marva
      @jafar4marva 5 часов назад

      They would likely be in their 90's😂

  • @rustyhguitar1
    @rustyhguitar1 День назад +1

    I have always heard the line about Guitar George as “Left-handed old guitar is all he can afford…”
    Somehow I’m disappointed with the real lyrics 😊

  • @grahamblack1961
    @grahamblack1961 2 дня назад +2

    Such an unlikely hit especially for 1978. It wasn't like anything else going on at that time.

  • @Otacatapetl
    @Otacatapetl 8 часов назад

    There's nothing in the lyrics to suggest that Knopfler thought of the Sultans as mediocre; quite the opposite if anything. He even gives them an excuse for playing to a virtually empty pub: "Competition in other places...", and jazz isn't exactly mainstream. What tickled him was the way they addressed their "audience" as if they were playing Wembley stadium.

  • @howlinhobbit
    @howlinhobbit День назад

    my band, Snake Suspenderz, would often introduce ourselves as the Serpents Of Swing.

  • @johnspragg4560
    @johnspragg4560 19 часов назад +1

    Mongoose you are so wrong, Harry is Harry Vanda and George is George Young check with Mark. Our ask ACDsee

  • @robertpayne9009
    @robertpayne9009 День назад

    Thanks!

  • @onusgumboot5565
    @onusgumboot5565 День назад +1

    The best bands I ever heard were unknown bands that stayed that way. Ever heard of the Coyote Kings? Maybe the Slow Rollers? Probably not. My favorite bands are bands that never quite made the big time. Never became household names. The Replacements, and The Del Fuegos, for example.

    • @John-isAround
      @John-isAround День назад

      Seeing bands before becoming big is enjoyable also. Ted Nugent played the high school prom in Bad Axe, Michigan. I saw Rush perform in the Harbor Beach High School Gym in Michigan. My sister watched Bob Seger play in bars. A movie called "The Replacements" with Keanu Reeves is quite good. The Replacements and other musical entertainment as you have mentioned must have sounded quite good and special.

    • @onusgumboot5565
      @onusgumboot5565 День назад +1

      @@John-isAround I've never seen a good Keanu Reeves movie. The Replacements are not connected in any way.
      My oldest sister lived in Illinois back in the 70s. REO speedwagon played bars around where she lived a lot. My youngest sister saw Kansas play at a senior prom, before they were known anywhere. Seeing Nugent at a prom had to be a shock to any parents there.
      I did sound for the Coyote Kings and the Slow Rollers. Both bands really knew how to entertain a crowd. The Slow Rollers became the Rowdy James band. Rowdy James, AKA James Pomeroy, was an amazing front man.
      RIP Rowdy. We miss you.

    • @John-isAround
      @John-isAround День назад

      @onusgumboot5565 Thanks for responding, I'm heading to a Libertyville Illinois football game. That's where actor Marlon Brando was fired from his job in the movie theater. Point Break with Keanu is a great movie and soundtrack. A legendary Cheap Trick guitar player visited Lake Bluff and guitar players lined up to get their guitars autographed. The Doobie Brothers performed in Guam when I saw them. The Grateful Dead, David Bowie, Alice Cooper, California.

  • @behboodj2359
    @behboodj2359 2 дня назад

    Thanks so much,

  • @disturbedme101
    @disturbedme101 15 часов назад

    What are the chances of talking about a song.........and never playing a note of it......this guy 100%

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  14 часов назад

      Ever heard of copyright?

    • @disturbedme101
      @disturbedme101 13 часов назад

      @@MusicMongoose if only youtube had a way around this.......

  • @Aristotelezz
    @Aristotelezz День назад

    Many people believe Sultans of Swing is a rip off of Rory Gallagher's Shadow Play. It surprises me that it's not mentioned here...

  • @larrywishon8084
    @larrywishon8084 День назад

    Sultans of Swing does NOT represent Dire Straits. Don't know the exact circumstances but it DOES sound like the name of a Jazz band. Don't know if the band was good or not but that's a GREAT name.

  • @catweasle5737
    @catweasle5737 20 часов назад +1

    That's Marks way. Look up what inspired him to write money for nothing.

  • @Dutch52
    @Dutch52 День назад

    My favorite "Planet of New Orleans"

  • @thehaughtcorner
    @thehaughtcorner День назад

    Knopfler's father bought him the Strat, not Mark. Didn't even have an amp for it.

    • @hilogreg5216
      @hilogreg5216 День назад +2

      Nope…check your sources

    • @johnmccarthy6451
      @johnmccarthy6451 День назад

      @thehaughtcorner @hilogreg5216 has it right. Knopfler's dad bought him a German knock off of a Stratocaster. It was Red Höfner V2 Super Solid guitar

  • @jafar4marva
    @jafar4marva 5 часов назад

    Charlie Gillett as in billet not gillette
    (RIP)

  • @samsonn25
    @samsonn25 13 часов назад

    Steve Winwood brother

  • @TomCrockett-bl1gp
    @TomCrockett-bl1gp 9 часов назад

    Does Mark look like Jerry Seinfeld or am I just delusional.

  • @ButeSound
    @ButeSound День назад +1

    Another guy with one one of those .. British RUclips accents..

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  День назад +1

      That’ll be on account of me being British

    • @lal2300
      @lal2300 18 часов назад +2

      Refreshing isn’t it ? Intelligent and not shouting 🤔

  • @samsonn25
    @samsonn25 13 часов назад

    61 Strat

  • @imagine9033
    @imagine9033 8 часов назад

    BLABLABLA

  • @Meepsmusic63
    @Meepsmusic63 4 часа назад

    It was Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.. only joking lol

  • @jasonmccombs8123
    @jasonmccombs8123 День назад +1

    Wnyis Vladymyr Zelensky doing RUclips?

  • @googoogjoobgoogoogjoob
    @googoogjoobgoogoogjoob День назад

    Yeah, this true story is so weird.

  • @richardhebden5603
    @richardhebden5603 День назад

    Music Mongoose, You have the voice of somebody that I don't want my daughter to meet (like Jimmy Savile)

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  День назад

      Not sure how to respond to this

    • @RGP_Maths
      @RGP_Maths 20 часов назад

      Savile was a Yorkshireman, and sounded nothing like this. Also his verbal idiosyncrasies made him even less like Music Mongoose, and distinctive even from other Yorkshiremen.

  • @modifiedcontent
    @modifiedcontent День назад

    Dire Straits were the lame pub band they were singing about.

    • @MusicMongoose
      @MusicMongoose  День назад

      Very meta!

    • @tulyar57
      @tulyar57 День назад +3

      So lame that Bob Dylan immediately employed Knopfler and Pick Withers to play on his upcoming Slow Train Coming album. But of course, unlike you, Bob Dylan couldn't recognise musicianship.

  • @phildiamond8549
    @phildiamond8549 День назад

    Fine music - rubbish lyrics.