Are Conservative voters literally 'dying out', is age a factor? | ITV News
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- ITV News UK Editor Paul Brand explores how age has become a defining factor in predicting how people will vote in the upcoming General Election.
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Conservative voters come in two forms. Rich folks, and serfs.
3 SNOB'S 🤣
Coming from a left-wing , Waitrose shopping, champagne socialist 🙈🙈
So says the Great thinker.
@@CatonaWall175 Greed is a typical tory mentality ' their not happy with just getting by ' their vainity is toxic 🤢
Labour voters, are mainly young and on benefit. Also the Muslim voting block.
Pro immigration, and high tax.
This leads to the rich people leaving. That means no investment in the UK.
Low quality immigrants push down your wage. No house to buy. Benefits for UK people go to immigrants.
But when they start to make any money and get older they want more conservative policies.
Tories are the same as Labour now.
Vote Out to help out. Use your vote!
Those kids haven't got a clue!
Yep, but then again, I was an ignorant f**kwit at that age. 😊
The know they won't be able to afford a house under the current paradigm.
@@DanielEarlester make be they should save like we all had too, no gym subscription, no Costa coffee, no Netflix or Amazon prime subscription, no uberEATS, Spotify subscription no expensive phone contracts none of these things are essential to live
What the dinosaur is forgetting is back in 1968 the average house price was £58k in real terms today 😂 we didn't have it easier promise
Why do you think nobody ever talks pre 1950s regarding housing? I know you don’t think it’s a coincidence, deep down tell me why you nobody says before 1950
@@weepingangel6805Probably because everyone involved with the housing market prior to the 1950s has passed away
Also there was social housing of good quality. And before anyone mentions 15% mortgages - wages were going up at the same rate if not more!
@@CCP_Operative Because there wasn't massive demand and low supply.
Yeah and the old guy says he was only being paid £5 when he was 18 and there was no way he could afford a house then. A total false equivalence. To start with his fiver is worth £148.27 in today's money, according to the BoE, but more importantly this was at the age of 18 and he was carrying zero student debt. The kids are looking at never being able to buy a house. Average age of a first time buyer is already 35. He might not have bought a house at 18, but he almost certainly did in his 20s.
Well if your young your only choice is Reform because anybody else won’t fix immigration & housing will be more unaffordable 🤷♂️…but if you want to vote for the WEF slavery then you do you 🤷♂️
WEF slavery.... So yeah vote for the millionaire who wants to cut taxes that will destroy the NHS and who value being landlords over rent control that would actually help. My god you people and the Trumpists are so confoundingly idiotic it is breathtaking. The fact that you believe in obvious snake oil salesmen who are nakedly in it for their own gain and using your hatred of foreigners to make their tax lives easier is honestly so sad for the future
Don't forget, we learned about climate change in the 70s. For decades this generation were warned; "think of your children and grandchildren" and then they didn't.
They'll be dead soon, the inhospitable planet, food insecurity, economic instability, refugee crises etc as a result of climate change will have to be paid for by the younger generation, but at least the old people didn't need to inconvenience themselves or do anything differently.
They are the first generation in modern history to leave their children and grandchildren worse off than they were. The fact that they're still voting conservative, even knowing the damage it does to the younger generation really is beyond the pale....... Oh and they voted proportionately more for Brexit too.
I think about this all the time. I'm 25 and I was made aware that climate change is an existential threat from the age of maybe 5? 6 at the latest? We were told our entire childhood's that the planet is dying and we're responsible, but at least we can all recycle, switch the lights off, and turn off the taps. Then I get to like 12 and realise not only are things actually worse than that because little to no (or even backwards) progress has been made on the actual sweeping changes that need to be made, but enough of the generation before me actually don't even think it's worth it to do anything at all. Just kicking the can down the road so we have to deal with it.
I was a child of the 70s I can’t remember ever hearing about climate change then, virtually nobody I new had a car until the late 70s everyone used the bus for work or walked you worn you clothes and shoes out because they were so expensive or you gave them as hand me downs if still in good condition no body had foreign holidays, no body was overweight, no one used single use plastic for bags or bottles that was invented much later ever heard of the winter of discontent we had power cuts in the winter because everyone was on strike yes it was great sitting in the pitch black with one candle at 5.30pm all happened under a Labour Government we weren’t as greedy lazy and wasteful as today’s generation,
@@jax3722 I imagine that's what you still do now then? You walk or cycle everywhere? You don't go on foreign holidays? Wear your shoes out? And I'm betting you never use single-use plastic.
Or, as a child of the 70s, have you been at the forefront of these changes?
@@Farzocalypse21 I don’t drive,I walk or use public transport that why I probably still a size 10, I buy my clothes in charity shops, all my old electrical gadgets, jewellery I post to recycle for goods causes , I never use single use plastic, or buy bottled water I have a water filter jug, my phone is about 10 years old any old clothes that are unwearable I put in the clothes bin down the bottom of the road, my Birkenstocks are over ten years old and my Emu boots are over 6 year old so yes I wear them out I’d rather put a jumper on than the heating in the winter because of the sheer cost I have 2 90 minute flights a year do you begrudge me that I’m probably doing much better than Emma Thompson and her extinction rebellion friends
@@jax3722 Well great. And you vote conservative? Because you may as well take all of that good stuff you do, heap it on a fire and cover it in petrol.
In the 1980s Thatcher was talking about climate change, before the Tories got bought out by the fossil fuel industry. By 2016 Boris Johnson was still talking about it as a conspiracy theory.
Anyone that votes for that rabble has nothing but contempt for future generations.
Hat boy says it all; more interested in Isreal than the policies affecting the people and country he resides and studies in 🤔
Could be that people can care about more than one thing. Our country needs progressive social and domestic policies as well as human rights abiding foreign affairs.
How can young people vote for them when they have nothing to conserve?
Im 60. We had it easy. Free education and buy a council house at massive discount.
Yeah, its not that everything in the past was sunshine and roses, far from it. But some core tenants of life, education, housing, children, were just easier in the past.
Massive progress has been made in some areas, but slow regression in some very key areas is why young people feel so much worse off.
(Also the level of wealth hoarding by older generations is at an all time high, not that all old people are wealthy)
A lot of old people are horrendously rude, obnoxious and entitled. This is good viewing.
Maybe its you that has no manners, per your post.
@@user-hf1pg2ey6l nope, I’m sick of being treated like a piece of dirt from ages 50-70. They’re so rude
@@Jordenpw Thats a lot of people you dislike. What did you do?
@@user-hf1pg2ey6l most people my age feel the same way
Conservative replaced by 'REFORM' which is better for every person in UK
Is this a joke or are you genuinely deluded?
LOL better for Nigel Farages property portfolio and tax burden you mean? Hahahaha
LOL
Conservatives: destroy country
Old people: Hmm I'll vote tory/im undecided
Truly shows that age doesn't equal wisdom.
If you are over retirement age then you don’t get to vote.
Voting for Plasticine reasons, is criminally insane
Those average ages show young people don’t vote
Yeah we really dont. I dont know many people my age that vote, they just don't care for it. I'm more Conservative which is even rarer for my age
@@teelo523then you are nuts
@@user-pp9yk3tu4z I don't mean I vote tories
@@teelo523 well as long as you don’t vote reform or Tory that’s ok :)
@user-pp9yk3tu4z I dont really like any of the options, but I'll be voting for reform for a better opposition to Labour as I know they'll win
Older conservatives aren't dying out - they now have someone else to vote for.
The very old are sticking with the Tories, but the 40-65 bunch are leaving in droves to vote Reform (and UKIP before them)
I'm 42, I'm voting for Labour.
@@Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter Are you an ex Tory voter?
@@dazjackson1972 is that your point? You're talking about tory voters
Polling doesn't show that
The sense of entitlement from the younger generation in this film is astounding, after the war people were virtually staving in the UK the children and teenagers from the war are now todays pensioners no food banks then , no dole every one went to work, no car, no foreign holidays, hardly any new clothes you worn hand me downs.saved hard for a deposit for a house, the population explosion and the sale of council houses has caused prices to rocket
Those young people interviewed will not care less about Israel/Palestine ten years from now. Guaranteed.
At least the girl at the end was realistic enough to admit voting Labour was the only realistic option.
I’m 30 and me and my friends have spoken up on the issue since we were 16 at school. Maybe you shouldn’t make assumptions, like me assuming you’re a miserable middle aged man with a receding hairline and larger than ideal belly, being as you’re called Paul. ;)
@@SFRZRDyou thought you cooked here huh 😭
@@SFRZRD I'm 34, been doing the exact same thing. I'll never forget the first 'cutting the grass' news segment that they used to show back when I was in my early teens on the news. Been advocating for Palestine for nearly 20 years now.
Just as a point, you're 30, you don't need to attack someone ad hominem. It makes the argument you put forward look weak and destroys any chance that someone might listen to you. I don't want to insult you so please don't take it like that, just wanted to give some advice, if it's unwanted then I apologise in advance.
@@SFRZRD What has being called Paul got to do with anything?
Just as a matter of interest in your 14 years of speaking up on the issue have you or any of your friends actually been there?
Also that would mean you have spent the last 14 years under Tory rule. Are you seriously suggesting you want another five more years of them just because Labour have a position on the Middle East you disagree with?
vote reform uk blud
The Tories "National Service" proposal makes me smile, especially when the older age group say what a good idea it would be.
In the last year of National Service, 1960, the youngest age of those men (and they were ALL men) was 21 after the rules had been changed in the late 1950s. This means that the youngest National Serviceman is now 85 years of age this year. So when I hear anyone below the age of 85 rattling on about what a great idea it would be my response is "How the hell would you know? You didn't do it!". 🤣
They are VOTING REFORM
4:30 The guy's knit cap makes him look like a hardcore supporter of Israel.
You want Stammer you get an Islamic Muslim state remember this is what you wanted
Vote Labour Get a N***** for a neighbour. This tired 50 year old racist campaigning still working for you?
Feelings are not facts. The older generation need to grow up and start listening to young people and learning about the facts behind what they're telling them. The wage to house price/deposit ratio was dramatically smaller for them- they could buy a house with a few years of saving. It is beyond a dream now for those without being handed a healthy 15k+ inheritance or parental handout.
Why’s that then, Council houses sold off in the 80s population exploitation since the 90s
Ha ha ha ha. What nonsense. We worked at proper jobs. Typically paid a mortgage for a minimum 25 years, had no mobile phone contracts, no internet, no 'designer' clothes obsessions, no fast food obsession, no influencers(sic), police concerned with actual crime, could have different opinions without stabbing each other, lived within our means, avoided loans and credit cards, (only Access and Amex for the rich), saved for what we wanted and still managed to save from our meagre wages. You lot want it all, now, for free.
@@martyndawson7484
Funny coming from somebody who got everything for free.
Imagine having the WWII generation sacrifice everything to bankroll you just so you can leach off of the next 3 generations too.
Soon as one grows up, views & politics change. We all grow up eventually.....( well most do ).
No. Planet is burning and we can't afford houses because the older generation bought all the council housing and quadrupled the rents. We cannot afford to become Conservatives because we don't have the luxury of having had state provided education health and housing and then stealing it and everything else we could from a younger generation
When you are young and naive you may believe in santa claus and the toothfairy you are idealistic so you very likely will vote Labour. Has you get older and experience life and what bad things it throws at you theres a good chance you are realistic and vote Conservative.
You couldn't have picked any more Pro palestine woke liberal activists to interview.
People who have never travelled, live in comfort, as she says pro conservative area.
There are many of us. Pretty much the majority of everyone under 40
Have the kids linked numbers of people to house prices yet?
Something happened in the 90s.....you can see it on the graphs.
Like wide open borders? Guess you never want to own anything.
No because we are smart enough to look at multiple cities and places across countries and see that the UKs housing market is not specifically spiking due to immigration. Countries with similar levels of immigration and people can still afford homes because houses are not simply investments for landlords who can evict tenants at will and raise rents to whatever insane level they want.
We know why we can't afford homes. Immigration is a factor but by no means the most pressing.
We are also very aware that without immigration there would not be enough doctors, nurses or care workers to care for our ageing great grandparents, grandparents and parents and without that we would be expected to somehow pay even more out of our dwindling incomes- thank you Brexit and old people for that as well.
@@ambivalentsheep my word.
We only need all the new houses and doctors BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION INCREASES.
Look at census data.
'Smart enough'......
@mrmeldrew693 The census data that shows our increasing ageing home born population - like every developed country jn the world has - that needs a level of health and care far beyond anything we have needed before? This is demography on a global scale for developed countries. The healthcare and social care need is for a still vast majority white older population. White people in the UK did not have enough kids to replace the working population that would be needed for a healthcare system for their old people. This is happening for populations in Scandinavia, Germany, South Korea, Japan, the US.
Problem for the old is you can blame immigration as much as you like. But who is caring for these old white British people if we don't have it? And unless pensioners wealth is taxed how could we otherwise afford to increase the pay of care workers who are mostly sub minimum wage so that British born people are willing to do the jobs?
@ambivalentsheep imported people get older too. Surely you can see that just adding more and more people into an island isn't sustainable in the long term?
All I want is a politician who actually thinks past four year cycles.
Interesting you mention wages - why do you think they have stagnated since the 90s.......strangely coinciding with the housing cost boom.
Tricky one.
@@mrmeldrew693 it is sustainable if the people comminf to this country are young people, which they all happen to be. And yes the alternative would be to tax pensioners which they should be doing far more
No but Tories are not Conservatives so Reform UK only party for UK. This is rubbish look at Europe
Yes look at Europe with its higher growth and lower inflation. We should rejoin the EU
0:50 Oh look, there's that 52:48 ratio again. 😆
Eh? How do you type in this internets thingy...where are my glasses?
The poor will put the rich in power again...
Voting won’t really do anything it’s the system itself that’s the problem, the marriage of corporation and state combined with the fact that the UK is broken.
It’s generous to call ourselves a country, nonetheless voting in people to Westminster won’t make any difference.
Tory/Reform voter are certainly dying out
They are, and reform is a for ignorant people who think letting 0 people in of skin colour will solve all if Britain's problems
Bye bye tories
That bird who's disgusted by Labour doesn't sound very intelligent. Is she even a student at Cambridge?
She's entitled to her opinion. Who are you to say?
@@user-hf1pg2ey6l But she's not entitled to her own facts!
Not everyone has to think like you do lmao
Is she wrong though? I don't think so. This just shows that she has humanity and morality. That she's appalled by Labour's stance on Gaza which is unconditional and undying support to Israel to carry out G E N O C I D E and ethnic cleansing with impunity. Every human being on the planet should be D I S G U S T E D by what's happening in Gaza and the rest of the Palestine at the moment. It's absolutely S I C K E N I N G.
Cambridge Masjid
it is cold this summer ,
more green taxes ,
more expense energy bills ,
the Great British Bill, " GB energy ".
Labour gonna people poor
Smartest conservative voter
Don't forget the unrestricted immigration!...with Jimmy Savile's saviour in number 10.
The older guy trying to apply £5 in current terms is shocking. Someone needs to remind him that £5 then and £5 now are not the same, and he is being disingenuous.
He was clearly speaking about the past and wouldn't have 'worked from home'.
@@martyndawson7484 he was speaking about the past and being disingenuous.
This is weak it’s hilarious.
They are not getting older. They are the generation that managed to buy all the properties in the 1970-80-90. Now they are making tons of money. While the youngsters are suffering because the old have all hoarded the houses to them selves and nothing affordable is left for the youngsters due to the economy. It’s a generational problem not an age problem.
Don't blame the old for the crimes of politicians. They are responsible for the economy. You lot want everything for free, right now. Oldie here who only cleared his mortgage at age 61.We live in these houses, don't rent them out, don't make a 'ton of money' Hoarded all the houses? Bought them, more like, over 25 to 30 years. Now every new build in Leeds is specifically aimed at students... Normal Leeds citizens don't even get a look in.
@@martyndawson7484 well Martyn, it seems like you wasn’t one of the smart ones. Your situation is unique. All the other older generations have more than 2 properties.
65 plus want national service????
Say bye bye triple lock pension and you crafty boomers will pay tax haha!
inflation is going down ,
the plan worked ,
Labour Will cause high inflation ,
inflation is a double tax
What plan? inflation is on it's way back up and taxes are higher than ever under the tories.
Youth is wasted on the young😮You get less idealistic as you get older as will all the people you interviewed.
Indeed. I tend to think this whole ‘Tory voters are dying out’ could be a headline any time between 1850 and the present day… people get older: ergo the elderly vote is constantly replenished.
Still, would be a better country if the old didn’t become greedy, selfish, curmudgeonly toads and actually believed in a social contract as they aged 🤷♂️
We can't afford to become Conservative (selfish) because the older generation have taken all the socially provided housing and education, quadrupled the rent and destroyed the economy with Brexit and the Tories. We cannot afford to make your mistakes again. This isn't even mentioning the climate crisis you're all running off to vote Reform to make worse
VOTE REFORM
NO!
You lot are a plague on this nation. ‘vOtE rEfOrM’ 🤪
Labour :
1. no Plan ,
2. increase Tax ,
3. Print Money ,
4. Repeat .
More inflation , more Boats , more poverty
And Tory plan, steal from everyone give to there friends.
The Tories will increase taxes for most unless you are in the top 1%.
All they think about is themselves, just look at anyone that know about the date of the election, what do they do, oh I can make some money of this.
When the virus was around, oh I can make a shed load of money, the Conservative leader, did things in the past, oh there looks like a crash, let's bet on it happening.
I rather pay more tax then see another tory noob goverment
Taxes haven’t been as high as they are now for 70 years - and that’s under a Tory government. You’re clearly senile
Hi Rishi. Lying again?
Bruh why are young people so against national service?? Just go work
Because they'd be expected to work for free, for 25 days of the year.
Would you willingly give up a month's wages to do National service (which would likely be physically demanding but menial work)?
Smacks of indentured servitude to me.
@@liamcollins9183Duke of Edinburgh, and Princes Trust have helped lots of teenagers in the past sometimes you have to put in, to get something out
Make the oldies do it I reckon. They missed WWII, so get em to make up for it.
Iraq?
I’m 23 and voting Tory again
do they Send postal votes to broadmoor
Oh god another noob who earns under 30k but pretends he's rich by voting tory lmao
@@DDougzI suppose it’s the same as wanting to tax private schools even though you got a bursary to attend so you got a free private education like Kier Starmer
People have said this in recent years, pretty dumb. People get more conservative as they get older, there will always be conservatives.... sorry leftists that want everyone to agree but liberalism means having a variety of political views.
💚💚💚VOTE THE GREENS IF YOU WANT TO SEE REAL CHANGE💚💚💚
If you want to be ripped off for the behaviour of India, Russia and the USA.
Vote conservative party please
No. Vote Reform
Wtf no , time to pay tax on your pension and do your bit. Been avoiding it ever since haven't ya
Love the please at the end lol
@@DDougz - The pension they earned by 'doing their bit' (paying tax, NI and premiums) for 50 years?
@@otterspocket2826 we need it , they dont