Baxty get real dude. Blame the rules not the smart guy operating within it. Your biased hatred towards Verstappen impairs your view. Better leave you out of these discussions.
And the fun thing is: when they change the rules, Verstappen will be there to take advantage of them again. The others should wisen up and learn some cunning when dealing with Max (or Schumacher, Senna etc before him)
Baxty is so sour regarding Max, I don't need lemons for my lemonade 😂 Mate , take the rulebook and tell me which rules did he break ? as per the rulebook pls . Max is no gentleman on track , he's a winner.
Driving Guidelines state that "The car being overtaken must be capable of making the corner while remaining within the limits of the track". Where did Max do that? Search Driving Guidelines, you can find it.
Honestly, Max took advantage of the rules. If you want it to stop, change the rule. They didn’t want him pulling up next to the leading car at a safety car restart so they changed the rule. I’m not a fan of Max but he’s not to be blamed here.
again changing rules because of Max? I already lost count how many times they change rules because Max is exploiting the rules left or right 🤣... FIA is better off caling Max to make the rule book at this rate I don't see nobody better then him really 😂
This is the biggest myth in F1 that max is this and max is that …..his bullish aggressive nature and a strong car has made him look like a God . If he is so good ( that as per his fans he doesn’t need the best car ) why hasnt he won in last 6-7 races? A guy who was winning races from 15th,10th,7th like a cake walk ( with the most dominant car in F1 history obviously 😊) isnt winning or barely managing podium and guess what he doesn’t have the best car anymore. Some coincidence 😂😂. About his smartness? Remember Bahrain 2022 ? Charles gave him the move and gained DRS 3 times back to finally max locking up . Where is the smartness? On the contrary max may have good driving skills but mentality wise his final resolve to any overtake attempt by default is crashing 😂😂 how is that clever?
@@cult_personalityextended his gap to lando who’s been in the fastest car since Miami twink. And during that been on podiums in the 3rd fastest car. Cry about it
@@cult_personalityhow about Jeddah 2022 where he backed off and baited Charles into giving him DRS on the final lap, conveniently forgetting those moments eh? I guess u just cherry pick to suit ur narrative lil bro
Baxty..... Max did a track limit ....how is his first offense a penalty ??? If there was a gravel trap Lando would never have done that move but because there is a landing strip he sent it and now he was pushed off !!!! Imagine you have the best tires (Worth at least 0.8s) better car and DRS but still couldn't overtake Max legally in 6 laps. Only reason we are still discussing this is because Max suffer from a severe case of Non-Britania 😂😂😂
I think he should have got a penalty for forcing another driver off the track. Not for track limits. Big difference. He couldn't over take him because Max defended beautifully. Until he didn't
@@baxtybf1 So Lando placed his car where it shouldn't be and is surprised he runs out of road?? Peter Windsor have said many times if your taking the long way round don't be upset if you get run wide
@@Switll72 This is where the guidelines need to be looked at. If Max had forced him wide and stayed on track, its fair cop. It's the fact he went off as well that makes it egregious for me
@@baxtybf1Mate I surely agree as there are so many grey areas, what I find totally unfair is when Max do it everyone's loose there minds... Baku 2023 Max went to outside on turn two Russel ran into his side pod Max had to break or end up in the wall...... No penalty for Russel and EVERYONE blamed Max for taking outside line becouse Russel was at apex first ..... Talk about double standards?!?!?
It’s so frikkin funny that when a Brit gets a penalty after losing an on-track fight to a non Brit… it looks like all English race fans turn the whole rule book upside down, desperately trying to find a way to still punish the non British driver. 😂😂 To the 2 guests….Get tf over it. Max is the better racer. Period! Good luck reading the rule book every day! 👍🏻
All this about Lando being forced off the track baffles me. Lando has brakes too, he can brake and not be off the track you know. Don't put it like Lando has no other possible option than to go off track because it's rubbish.
Inside dictates the line everyone knows that. Anyone complaining about perfection in abusing the rules is just salty. 😂 Some just can’t accept the new king in f1 still bro needs to cope. 🤷🏻♂️
Sorry Baxty but being "pushed" off the track is NOT a licence to overtake off the track. Lando should know by now that trying to overtake Max around the outside is not going to happen, so why does he keep trying?
You mean the race where the real attempt at robbery was the call that backmarkers were not allowed to overtake? The call that even took bono by surprise. The call they had to fix and did it in such a way that ppl like baxty are still sour. Pretty sure Baxty has a different view 😅
Ya got to give it to Baxty. He consistently shows his " love" for Max. I mean what's love got to do with it right? 😂😂 The opinions of these three feisty cousins are as predictable as the weather in England and I find it kinda comforting. Max always gives us something to talk about and exposes weaknesses in rules and drivers to a tee. Andrea Stella was furious after the race because they were caught with their pants down. Pitwall again screwed over their driver.
Baxty, you say you had time to digest it. To, after that, come to this conclusion makes me feel like I'm watching just a guy having just an opinion... but then again, you say you very rarely praise Max on social media, so I guess it's all clear: fandom colouring judgement.
@@Cameron-Cc I like watching your stuff, Cameron, I'll skip the talks with Baxty, as it really is a downgrade. Being terrible is not the only alternative to being boring. Pop vox to me is the most boring journalistic approach there is, and I've been a journalist for years. And this shakedown comes across as such when people like Baxty are invited. Nothing personal against him, this podium is just not for him.
If Lando was not there it would a warning for track limits. After 3 he would have a pen. So he was first at apex, so Lando should have back off.would there have been gravel Lando wouldnt be there, and max should have a warning or penalty. So blame the game not the player!
Think the rules are fine as they are. That specific corner you’ll always encounter a similar situation if properly battling. You just can’t overtake off track, super simple. Anymore regs and the sport will be boring. No doubt this would not have blown up if lando gave the place back and tried again. God forbid the new generation watched f1 in the 90s 😂 they’d loose their mind how hard racing use to be
Max operates within the limits of the rules. he will use everything and anything allowed or in the grey zone to win. Max is ruthless, Lando is not. that is the difference.
If the situation was reversed (like it was in other races) everybody would still blame Max. If Lando does it then them are the rules. If Max does it despite them being the rules we should penalise him and help Lando because he simply doesn't have it, which is the most painful fact his fans don't want to admit.
I think button said it best. It’s cause and effect. Norris was ahead as they approached the corner, but max ahead at the apex. But why was max ahead at the apex? Bc he brakes late and can’t make the corner, and Norris brakes in time to make the corner. If we want to claim that the corner belongs to the driver who reaches the apex first, then that driver can’t go off the track.
That's the loophole in the current rules, let's see when they add the above considering all the factors into it. And we will see Max and Alonso still get to the limits of the rule and everybody crying again. If someone has a better racing brain we should appreciate it.
@@DineshKumar-iu5pl I appreciate hard racing. If Verstappen’s “defending” is within the rules then fair enough. However, there are several current and former drivers that don’t agree. Specifically with Max letting off the brakes to be “first at the apex” with no intention on making the corner. This of course forces the other driver to take avoiding action. It used to only be Hamilton fans who pointed this out. Now that other drivers are being affected, their fans seem to all of the sudden dislike his defensive style 😂😂.
@@jsac3939 yes, because the apex rule is only given now so everyone of the drivers you mentioned would want to be at ahead at the apex in any given situation. So in Max Lando current case , Max gets the apex so no need to give space so he can push the other guy out, in the process if off track then track limits. Now add Landos case, he is pushed off then he had to go behind Max and then complain then case considered for a 5 sec penalty, but gaining out side track limits is 10secs. So basically FIA messed up. Remember kMag got 10 sec for the same offense like Lando.
But he had a track limits too , (5/and 5 pour overtaking a outside So even they will give max 5 penalty, and normaly 10 pour Lando , but they give half of that so max will got it 🤞🤞
If Charles made a mistake and binned it there would have be a 25min segment of this video dedicated to that, but since he dominated the race on Sunday he gets about a 2 min scrap of time lmfao. The anti-Charles agenda is alive and well week after week.
Max operated within the rules. Mastery of the rules is a prerequisite to becoming a World Champion. Neither max nor Lando are PROHIBITED from getting off the track. But the rules are clear that you’re not allowed to overtake outside the track. Newey stated it best: “there is no such thing as the spirit of the rules.” All these arguments about “right vs wrong” , “unjust” , smacks of Ad21 derangement syndrome.
Would we be having this conversation if it was the other way around? And for the avoidance of doubt, Max would 've given back the position and tried again (and succeeded). Lando (AND MCLAREN) should've known that there would be a penalty, the rules are clear. Rules agreed on by the DRIVERS.
Ignoring the obvious bias. Quite an interesting argument. Max is an asshole for “exploiting” the rules but then the best move for Norris is to overtake outside the track and then pull enough of a gap so the penalty doesn’t matter. If this where to happen then we would have to consider how harsh should the penalty be to account for someone having a faster car and passing someone else in a way that is considered to be against the rules but they don’t care since they call pull enough of a gap, so they do it every other race and makes it look silly.
@@shezmed I am aware. I am just trying to highlight that at some point in the video it was stated as a viable strategy for Norris to pass Verstappen outside of the track knowing that he might get a penalty but this wouldn’t matter if he can make enough of a gap. This means that if we get an RB 2023 situation again, Verstappen (or anyone else with a fast car) could pass people off the track calculate ahead of time how many seconds they would get from a penalty and if they car can build that gap then they can do that and still get ahead. This would look ridiculous on TV.
@@MrJacker1991first of all don’t listen to that @shezmed guy - he’s a fool Second, I think that’s why they’ve gone to a 10s standard penalty for overtaking off track and gaining an advantage. As I recall George Russell made a thing of it after admitting to overtaking off track and soaking up the 5s at cota last year I guess soaking up 10s is twice as hard as a fiver
this exactly. max operating within the grey area is the most heinous crime punishable by death but lando pulling an obviously illegal move is so cutesy and totally forgivable cuz he couldn’t get past his championship rival on his own merit 🥺
Good point, Max always appears to plan his attacks X number of corners or laps before the overtake attempt. Norris lacked the intelligence and foresight to think ahead of the now.
It's always so funny about baxty and his mates, when it doesn't go their way they start crying. It was always already obvious that british never liked the dutch (see dutch expressions by the british, since the dutch are the only ones that successfully invaded the UK after the Roman empire), but Max makes them 100 times more salty 😂.
Carlos did same to max in the same corner on lap one and NOONE said anything about a penalty for Sainz for pushing max wide (Max did the smart thing and backed off). I sense a real bias here.
Enjoyed the vid, and I always watch how Baxty reacts, and if it's not about Lewis he almost always puts Lewis in the mix. 🤣.it is clear that Baxty is British. 😇I know Cam and Shez are British too, but Baxty is biased as fudge, always good for a laugh 🤣
And that's why I can't take Baxty seriously, and yes Cam even if you say that Baxty knows a lot about F1, I still don't take him seriously. His bias is so strong. 🤣
I am not going to break it all down but if you can’t enjoy this F1 conversation (not saying you have to agree with anything here) but this was a great recap of some of the really interesting moments during the COTA race. The one thing I really do believe is McLaren should have taken the chance of giving the place back (sorry Shez & Cam). I do think Lando was starting to figure Max out. Stella needs to figure the FIA is not who you should put your money on…especially vs Max when he’s driving as well as he was. Max doesn’t make the same mistakes very often.
Lol, Baxty is still looking in the rulebook if there is something Max did wrong. Max was more than a meter ahead at the A-pax. Max is just a pure winner (racer) who knows the rules inside out and uses them to his advantage. Don's hate the player hate the Game! Legend! tricking Lando!
You can’t pass way off track and pass the driver in front of you. It’s that simple. Lando could have easily gotten a 10 second penalty with grid penalties. If and IF you make the argument that Max went off track he didn’t have as many track limits as Lando but then you enter the debate of 5 second penalty for Max and 10 second penalty for Lando.
F1 is all about understanding the rules then finding the limits within the rules and exploiting them to your benefit... That's the same objective that guides car development and now drivers
The first 5 minutes of this video is a pure example of the bias mindset towards Max. Baxty said : 1. I complimented Max for his defense in the begining, "Which I rarely do"... 2. Max was just milimeters before Norris at the Apex. (Trying to downsize the fact that Max was first at the apex). 3. I feel, bla bla bla. What you feel doesnt count. Rules are rules. The black guy said something wise! Don't hate the player , hate the game.
Lewis knows what to expect and acts accordingly, Norris knows what is going to happen but doesn't know what to do... Norris is a preprogrammed robot...
I agree that Hadjar haven't shown anything special in any FP1s. I'd go for Arvid over Hadjar so VCARB got time and they need a driver that will surely score and can fill in just in time for 2026, new regs. I do not think it would hurt to get Franco in the VCARB. If they drop Checo, to some extent, Franco can at least retain a portion of that Latin market. Not to mention his growing number of sponsors too.
@@jandres0402 Colapinto was a nobody to you guys until he got an opportunity. FP1 mean nothing given different fuel loads, tyres and engine modes. Hadjar in all series has been better than colapinto. There are a solid 5 people in f2 better then him. Atleast 2/3 would would perform equal if not better then him too. Hadjar is one of them
@@arcane.1212 what an assumption that I haven’t been following Colapinto? 😂 Why does Marko yap about other drivers when they got a bunch in their junior program? Even Piastri is being considered to replace Max. This, to me, appears to be an implication of non-confidence. I’m not saying Hadjar isn’t talented. I watch the feeders. But who is he? The kid who got a good reflex in the Monaco track lmao 🤣 RB also seems to be considering the business aspect when choosing drivers too.
@@jandres0402marko loves to talk about every driver, thats just how he is. Colapinto has alot of hype around him right now. I'm not denying how good he is, but let's remember that other f2 drivers could be doing the same as he's doing right now.
Isn't passing off of the track a 10 second penalty now? I thought they changed it in response to Russell's admission that it is a no brainer to pass cars off the track when you have a performance advantage and the penalty is only 5 seconds.
Are you serious!! Hadjar wasnt allowed to drive the rb becuase it was verstappens car, so they put him on hards and have him the safest runs to avoid any crash. Meanwhile other teams were more lax about it. You cant compare fp1 and judge how good people are 😂
@@baxtybf1 either way, the point is you can't judge drivers on fp1s ! the team put hadjar on hards mate on probably lower engine mode. Hadjar in all categories f2 f3 freca f4... has been better than colapinto.
Only few …have the cajones to take it to Maximillian verstappen such as one sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton (In British accent ). Ohhh it’s getting techy
If both should of been given penalties, then Lando should get 10 secs and Max 5 secs because overtaking and gaining an advantage off track is far more serious than abusing track limits
If Lando wins the championship and I don’t think he has a chance of it but if he did.. It would be a weak championship. The guy has only 3 wins all season.. Even Charles has that many wins this season. I think Charles and Lewis have won some of the big races this year.
If it was the other way around then Baxty would say it was bold and brave move and good that he was showing Max that he can’t do everything and say “Max had to give the place back, rules are the rules , so he deserves the penalty “ He also gives Brazil ‘21 as an example, but Abu dhabi ‘21 Lewis DID the same as Lando…and there Max was within the lines…I didn’t hear him complaining about Lewis not giving the position back. Also Brazil ‘22 when Lewis hits Max and didn’t leave him room…Max had damage and went back all the way to the end of the pack…they punished Max instead of Lewis…Max complained shortly on the radio but said immediately after : “ but never mind..” he knew he could do nothing against it. So Yes, the stewards are inconsistent but they are inconsistent towards everyone and Max has been a victim of this too. Shame that the complaining only happens towards Max . Cam, Shaz, I suggest one of you do a compilation of all the incidents/accidents of the last 3/4 years and the outcome of the stewards decisions…I bet that that you will see that: A. Max is not the only one who has aggressive actions. Only when Max does it, the British commentators are highlighting it and won’t let go …therefore they influence everyone , including the stewards(some of these stewards are biased too🥴)to have a bad image of Max. I think if he where British he had been called a legend who is bold and brave. B. Max is punished more for these incidents than the others and sometimes unfairly. Also the moving under breaking: everybody does it but the others often don’teven get noted. C. That the British commentators (especially Crofty and Palmer) are not consistent in their commentaries…more to their likings. They create this riot against Max. Oh, and Baxty: Max DID get punished for outside the lines. He got track limits, but because he had only two track limits it didn’t lead to a penalty. Ans about the first corner: the rules are that the stewards are not noting everything because it’s the first lap…just like in Spain when Lando pushed Max into the grass…🥴 please do see everything and compare everything and don’t just zoom in on Max. This guy deserves more respect for giving the people an exiting race…just wait and see what happens if he is sick of this all and leaves the sport early…I think a lot of people will turn of the tv.
Cam ask the question if Max is too aggressive and lacks the skill or of Lando is just good at playing victim. Mexico City was wild but you watch it back and Lando wasn’t driving responsibly. Let me explain, passing during a corner is always dangerous. One can argue that Lando is attacking Max at those points. The F1 community has been consistent at Max and his driving style, Norris knows this and puts hisself in these situations and plays victim. You can tell by his smirk.
Max is a smart guy indeed.... He's got Lando from close... He knows how mentally reacts. He knows him inside out as ppl use to say. They spent some time together as friends and Max simply keeps his notes. That is minus for Lando. Having your biggest opponent in friendly relationship doesn't help to bring him pressure with unexpected reactions. It seems Lando needs more from Oscar Mark Webber as a manager. Look how many friendships they make champions of the sport Schumacher at his times or how many drivers are close to Sir Lewis Hamilton. They know the game is cold and cold they are as well. Win your opponents mentally is half win. And I will not be surprised if in five years time Oscar have at his home least three championship trophies.
All the fia have to do is say, the driver that gets to the apex first must also keep the car on track. I wish all the drivers start doing what Mad max did, because you won't have any overtaking just drivers getting to the apex first and going off track.
And don't act like a divebomb to get ahead at the Apex is easy. You can easily literally crash, or go too fast and then get past at the inside, etc. Norris is just a terrible racer in a great driver body
As with the rules it was Max's corner because he was in front at the apex of the corner. Therefore Lando had to back off. For that reason Max 'did not' push him off. That is how it is for the rules. Can we now please stop about it?
I wish in these situations you would stop referencing Michael for these types of driving standards, they were bad then they are bad now. Lets not forget he had bad driving standards but back then it was their small community sport now its proper international sport with eyes on you
Red Bull has unfairly kept Yuki out of the A-team seat. They’ve rotated drivers on him, waiting for one that would beat him so they could use that as an excuse… That’s how pretentious the sport is about diversity and inclusion.
Let people have their opinions without judging them every time they say something remotely negative about Max. Not everyone wil praise him in every move but it doesn't mean they have biased hate against Max. Having said that: Dudududuh Max Verstappen! 😂 praise the God of racing
The "rules" r just guidelines n ppl always break them. It is the fault of ppl policing if they can't stop those taking pee to protect the integrity of racing.
Rules rules even if FIA makes changes, we will see Max and Alonso still get to the limits of the rule and get everybody talking again. If someone has a better racing brain we should appreciate it. DOT.
I have no idea who that (white) guy in the middle is, but I’ve never seen so much hate towards Max by a so called expert. Everything he said was complete rubbish and full of frustration. He even looks angry! I’m shocked by his performance and why he’s given a platform to spread his hate.
Brittish roze colored glasses, but it's simple . defender ahead at apex, overtaker needs to give him space , even if that means breaking and or avoiding by going off track. Max went into the corner to fast, but so did Lando, as otherwise Lando could have done the switchback. . If the overtaker stays alongside on the outside ,than it's on him if he get's pushed of the track, but he can't overtake whilst off the track. British fans always think their driver has the right of way , and bend or interper the rules to suit that narrative. Max knows how to use the rules to his favour, and if you can't keep a faster car with DRS and on better tyres behind longer than ten laps and till the end of the race, you let him make a illegal overtake. Max is smart in his racecraft , Lando not so much . Lando and mclaren should have given the position back straight away , as Lando was almost certain to have a increasing advantage in speed and tyres in the laps after.
That’s not what the stewards said They reckoned Lando was out in the weeds because he had nowhere else to go, because Max pushed him out there It’s in black and white
Baxty is in denial!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lando is lacking so much to run against max that i don’t even know where to start. But it’s simple really, lando is a race winner but not a champion contender. Not yet at least. Back in 2021 max got a 10second penalty not 5 but 10!! For lewis pushing him off the track in bahrain and noone was up in arms for that were they?😅😅🤣🤣🤣. Lando ain’t it! He needs to grow a pair of 🥚 and a 🧠 to go up against max.
Lando is lacking so much to run against max that i don’t even know where to start. But it’s simple really, lando is a race winner but not a champion contender. Not yet at least. Back in 2021 max got a 10second penalty not 5 but 10!! For lewis pushing him off the track in bahrain and noone was up in arms for that were they?😅😅🤣🤣🤣. Lando ain’t it! He needs to grow a pair of 🥚 and a 🧠 to go up against max.
Stop inventing!!! These guys are literally just inventing shit up for real. They just conveniently ignoring thr fact that there were a few similar incidents of overtaking off track that were penalized in the same corner! So just because it's max vs Lando, stewards should apply different standards?? It's a joke listening to these guys, not even worth my time. Keep crying, Lando ain't going to win the championship, mates.
Bruh, Lando was avoiding an incident. Is lando supposed to stop and wait for max if max had a more serious issue with his car? If max went off the track than you automatically have to assume he had an issue. Why did Lando pay for max’s mistake? These guys are ELITE, they make movements within millimeters of variance lap to lap. Why couldnt the FIA analyze max’s behavior and deems that he was braking in an egregious manner to cause an incident? Thats what happened.
well Lando avoided an incident but didn't avoid the penalty .You cannot overtake off track , even if he had no other choice he should have given back the position . Max was ahead at the apex so the corner and the position was his as per the rules . Simple as that !
@@madalinbpopa im sorry I just dont agree. That is an archaic depiction of motor racing formed by primitive sporting behaviors to which has no place in modern f1. As I said, these guys are so elite, they should and could race tough yet classy at the same time. Its a disservice to f1, the drivers and the fans to think of the most elite form of motor racing as brute force. Modern f1 is about forcing mistakes through driving, operationally and technical. And if you fall short then have the honor to concede then fight another day. Thats f1, anything less is another series.
@@philippederosierjr.2319 yes , you go tell Max Verstappen and the stewards what modern F1 is all about, teach us some more values of the sport pls , lets make it more like equestrian , ballet or ice skating . Jesus Christ , F1 is about racing hard , it's always been this way , when did this community become such a bunch of p*****s ??
@@philippederosierjr.2319 I take you to Baku sprint race 2023.... Max on outside Russel on inside, Russel running in to Max side pod and Max has to break to prevent hitting the wall. Russel no penalties becouse he wa s ahead at the apex.... Everyone blamed Max becouse he placed his car where it shouldn't be. Seems it's only fair if anyone butax push people wide??
Baxty get real dude. Blame the rules not the smart guy operating within it.
Your biased hatred towards Verstappen impairs your view. Better leave you out of these discussions.
Biased hatred... So much so that I was praising him for unbelievable defence. Ok dude
And the fun thing is: when they change the rules, Verstappen will be there to take advantage of them again. The others should wisen up and learn some cunning when dealing with Max (or Schumacher, Senna etc before him)
@@baxtybf1 My brother F1 aint for you go do something else
@@Dizzy-dj6hn I'll stay where I a thanks
@@baxtybf1Good on you mate, you were very fair, you guys are always worth listening to. Have a good evening 👍👊
Baxty is so sour regarding Max, I don't need lemons for my lemonade 😂 Mate , take the rulebook and tell me which rules did he break ? as per the rulebook pls . Max is no gentleman on track , he's a winner.
THIS!
His merc jacket on his chair gave it away 😅
Agree💯🤣
I laugh myself to death when I hear Baxty's reactions and then his facial expression 🤣. British Biased Baxty 🤣
Driving Guidelines state that "The car being overtaken must be capable of making the corner while remaining within the limits of the track". Where did Max do that?
Search Driving Guidelines, you can find it.
@@baxtybf1 and what is the penalty for what Max did ? more than a warning ?
I think its safe to say we all have had enough of Baxty here
Put some respect on that man's name. Convergence is very boring. Doesn't make for good podcasts neither in my experience?
You right Cameron butt it is predictable
@@RicardoSousa-g5wcorrect. If you know what someone is going to say every time, that’s not analysis
One person biased and other one measured is not a debate... Get two biased guys and let them fight it out 😂😂😂
@@Cameron-Cc it’s cool and ok to criticize Max, but when it’s so transparent because of nationalistic hate - it’s like racism
Honestly, Max took advantage of the rules. If you want it to stop, change the rule. They didn’t want him pulling up next to the leading car at a safety car restart so they changed the rule. I’m not a fan of Max but he’s not to be blamed here.
again changing rules because of Max? I already lost count how many times they change rules because Max is exploiting the rules left or right 🤣... FIA is better off caling Max to make the rule book at this rate I don't see nobody better then him really 😂
@@Shabec2982 every driver is entitled and required to use the rules at their disposal
This Baxty dude should just say 'I'm british and I don't like Max because he beat the national hero Hamilton.' BooHoo.
British logic. He pushed me off the track so I had to overtake him. Impossible to lift and stay behind him.
Sainz gave back the position earlier immediatly when (attacking) forced Max off. He did it IMMEDIATLY.
Not only more clever than Norris , but smarter ( racing wise ) than most of the grid , except Alonso maybe.
...and Lewis who is the smartest racer on the grid by far.
@@dappadixfulyes but unfortunately you can't race from the paddock 😂
This is the biggest myth in F1 that max is this and max is that …..his bullish aggressive nature and a strong car has made him look like a God .
If he is so good ( that as per his fans he doesn’t need the best car ) why hasnt he won in last 6-7 races? A guy who was winning races from 15th,10th,7th like a cake walk ( with the most dominant car in F1 history obviously 😊) isnt winning or barely managing podium and guess what he doesn’t have the best car anymore. Some coincidence 😂😂.
About his smartness? Remember Bahrain 2022 ? Charles gave him the move and gained DRS 3 times back to finally max locking up . Where is the smartness?
On the contrary max may have good driving skills but mentality wise his final resolve to any overtake attempt by default is crashing 😂😂 how is that clever?
@@cult_personalityextended his gap to lando who’s been in the fastest car since Miami twink. And during that been on podiums in the 3rd fastest car. Cry about it
@@cult_personalityhow about Jeddah 2022 where he backed off and baited Charles into giving him DRS on the final lap, conveniently forgetting those moments eh? I guess u just cherry pick to suit ur narrative lil bro
Baxty..... Max did a track limit ....how is his first offense a penalty ??? If there was a gravel trap Lando would never have done that move but because there is a landing strip he sent it and now he was pushed off !!!! Imagine you have the best tires (Worth at least 0.8s) better car and DRS but still couldn't overtake Max legally in 6 laps. Only reason we are still discussing this is because Max suffer from a severe case of Non-Britania 😂😂😂
I think he should have got a penalty for forcing another driver off the track. Not for track limits. Big difference.
He couldn't over take him because Max defended beautifully. Until he didn't
@@baxtybf1 So Lando placed his car where it shouldn't be and is surprised he runs out of road?? Peter Windsor have said many times if your taking the long way round don't be upset if you get run wide
@@Switll72 This is where the guidelines need to be looked at. If Max had forced him wide and stayed on track, its fair cop. It's the fact he went off as well that makes it egregious for me
@@baxtybf1Mate I surely agree as there are so many grey areas, what I find totally unfair is when Max do it everyone's loose there minds... Baku 2023 Max went to outside on turn two Russel ran into his side pod Max had to break or end up in the wall...... No penalty for Russel and EVERYONE blamed Max for taking outside line becouse Russel was at apex first ..... Talk about double standards?!?!?
@@Switll72 Lap 1 incidents are often looked at more leniently than others.
Face it, without Max there is nothing to talk about.
Don't say that..we've got Charles fans screaming for attention 😅
It’s so frikkin funny that when a Brit gets a penalty after losing an on-track fight to a non Brit… it looks like all English race fans turn the whole rule book upside down, desperately trying to find a way to still punish the non British driver. 😂😂
To the 2 guests….Get tf over it. Max is the better racer. Period! Good luck reading the rule book every day! 👍🏻
All this about Lando being forced off the track baffles me. Lando has brakes too, he can brake and not be off the track you know. Don't put it like Lando has no other possible option than to go off track because it's rubbish.
100% What I been asking since Sunday.... He put his car where it shouldn't be and then complains about being pushed off.... Lando is a Snowflake
Absolutely
@@mayena5735 what if Lando actually took that opportunity to to let him slide off and took the inside. Lando is nowhere near Max level.
Inside dictates the line everyone knows that. Anyone complaining about perfection in abusing the rules is just salty. 😂 Some just can’t accept the new king in f1 still bro needs to cope. 🤷🏻♂️
Not when the inside line driver goes off the track to make sure the outside cant
@@mitchel_bayliss We don't know what would've happened if Norris didn't take advantage off the track because your boy couldn't contain himself
Sorry Baxty but being "pushed" off the track is NOT a licence to overtake off the track. Lando should know by now that trying to overtake Max around the outside is not going to happen, so why does he keep trying?
Baxty still butthurt from AD2021... simply lovely😁
You mean the race where the real attempt at robbery was the call that backmarkers were not allowed to overtake? The call that even took bono by surprise.
The call they had to fix and did it in such a way that ppl like baxty are still sour.
Pretty sure Baxty has a different view 😅
Ya got to give it to Baxty. He consistently shows his " love" for Max. I mean what's love got to do with it right? 😂😂
The opinions of these three feisty cousins are as predictable as the weather in England and I find it kinda comforting.
Max always gives us something to talk about and exposes weaknesses in rules and drivers to a tee.
Andrea Stella was furious after the race because they were caught with their pants down. Pitwall again screwed over their driver.
Spot on ! 🔥🔥😊
Since max is racing f1 there are born thousands of new f1 podcasts that is reason why max is the greatest f1 driver ever!!
baxty is always agains max sow nothing new...
Lando needs to stop retrying strategies that don't work
Agree, Lando could have known, should have known what Max was gonna do.
Baxty, you say you had time to digest it. To, after that, come to this conclusion makes me feel like I'm watching just a guy having just an opinion... but then again, you say you very rarely praise Max on social media, so I guess it's all clear: fandom colouring judgement.
Being a fanboy it's ok. Just don't talk about this like your opinion has any validity because it doesn't!
Exactly
Baxty is awful at this...
Yeah horrible.
Sir Baxty is purple sectors. Boring F1 conversation exist in consensus-ville.
@@Cameron-Cc He's passing off the track Cam...
@@Cameron-Cc I like watching your stuff, Cameron, I'll skip the talks with Baxty, as it really is a downgrade. Being terrible is not the only alternative to being boring. Pop vox to me is the most boring journalistic approach there is, and I've been a journalist for years. And this shakedown comes across as such when people like Baxty are invited. Nothing personal against him, this podium is just not for him.
If Lando was not there it would a warning for track limits. After 3 he would have a pen. So he was first at apex, so Lando should have back off.would there have been gravel Lando wouldnt be there, and max should have a warning or penalty.
So blame the game not the player!
My goodness the Bias is strong on this one.. 😀
Think the rules are fine as they are. That specific corner you’ll always encounter a similar situation if properly battling. You just can’t overtake off track, super simple. Anymore regs and the sport will be boring. No doubt this would not have blown up if lando gave the place back and tried again. God forbid the new generation watched f1 in the 90s 😂 they’d loose their mind how hard racing use to be
Get RID of the overtaking rules/guidelines!!
@@shezmed That would be even worse for Norris.
@@edgardoMurnia why are we making rules that benefit any one driver?
Just need fair adjudication
@@shezmed The idea FIA is making rules for anybody other than Ferrari (by a billon miles their most popular team) is laughable.
Missing Senna, Hill and Schumi era racing
Max operates within the limits of the rules. he will use everything and anything allowed or in the grey zone to win.
Max is ruthless, Lando is not.
that is the difference.
If the situation was reversed (like it was in other races) everybody would still blame Max. If Lando does it then them are the rules. If Max does it despite them being the rules we should penalise him and help Lando because he simply doesn't have it, which is the most painful fact his fans don't want to admit.
The more rules the more Max will use them to get an advantage.
I think button said it best. It’s cause and effect. Norris was ahead as they approached the corner, but max ahead at the apex. But why was max ahead at the apex? Bc he brakes late and can’t make the corner, and Norris brakes in time to make the corner. If we want to claim that the corner belongs to the driver who reaches the apex first, then that driver can’t go off the track.
That's the loophole in the current rules, let's see when they add the above considering all the factors into it. And we will see Max and Alonso still get to the limits of the rule and everybody crying again. If someone has a better racing brain we should appreciate it.
@@DineshKumar-iu5pl I appreciate hard racing. If Verstappen’s “defending” is within the rules then fair enough. However, there are several current and former drivers that don’t agree. Specifically with Max letting off the brakes to be “first at the apex” with no intention on making the corner. This of course forces the other driver to take avoiding action.
It used to only be Hamilton fans who pointed this out. Now that other drivers are being affected, their fans seem to all of the sudden dislike his defensive style 😂😂.
@@jsac3939 yes, because the apex rule is only given now so everyone of the drivers you mentioned would want to be at ahead at the apex in any given situation. So in Max Lando current case , Max gets the apex so no need to give space so he can push the other guy out, in the process if off track then track limits. Now add Landos case, he is pushed off then he had to go behind Max and then complain then case considered for a 5 sec penalty, but gaining out side track limits is 10secs. So basically FIA messed up. Remember kMag got 10 sec for the same offense like Lando.
"Lando's astonishing pole" (George Russell says hi)
But he had a track limits too , (5/and 5 pour overtaking a outside
So even they will give max 5 penalty, and normaly 10 pour Lando , but they give half of that so max will got it 🤞🤞
If Charles made a mistake and binned it there would have be a 25min segment of this video dedicated to that, but since he dominated the race on Sunday he gets about a 2 min scrap of time lmfao. The anti-Charles agenda is alive and well week after week.
Max operated within the rules. Mastery of the rules is a prerequisite to becoming a World Champion. Neither max nor Lando are PROHIBITED from getting off the track. But the rules are clear that you’re not allowed to overtake outside the track.
Newey stated it best: “there is no such thing as the spirit of the rules.” All these arguments about “right vs wrong” , “unjust” , smacks of Ad21 derangement syndrome.
Cameron I thought the brilliant move was that max let the Ferraris in front to take the points.
The rest was for the breadcrumbs.
Right on! 😊
The other point is if Max would have thought Lamdo passing of track was ok he would have swerved further of track preventing Lando pasii g him.
Isn't Max being over the line just a track limit issue? You never get penalized for one track limit infringement...
Would we be having this conversation if it was the other way around? And for the avoidance of doubt, Max would 've given back the position and tried again (and succeeded). Lando (AND MCLAREN) should've known that there would be a penalty, the rules are clear. Rules agreed on by the DRIVERS.
Spot on dude! 🔥🔥
more. Norris asked the team "Was I ahead at the Apex, please check".... and they did and lied to him.
No offcourse not Max suffers from a severe case of Non-Britania
Ignoring the obvious bias. Quite an interesting argument. Max is an asshole for “exploiting” the rules but then the best move for Norris is to overtake outside the track and then pull enough of a gap so the penalty doesn’t matter. If this where to happen then we would have to consider how harsh should the penalty be to account for someone having a faster car and passing someone else in a way that is considered to be against the rules but they don’t care since they call pull enough of a gap, so they do it every other race and makes it look silly.
Very good point 100% Agree
The rules are now a 10s penalty for this kind of offence
Lando only got 5 because the stewards deemed he was put out there by Max also being off track
@@shezmed I am aware. I am just trying to highlight that at some point in the video it was stated as a viable strategy for Norris to pass Verstappen outside of the track knowing that he might get a penalty but this wouldn’t matter if he can make enough of a gap. This means that if we get an RB 2023 situation again, Verstappen (or anyone else with a fast car) could pass people off the track calculate ahead of time how many seconds they would get from a penalty and if they car can build that gap then they can do that and still get ahead. This would look ridiculous on TV.
@@MrJacker1991first of all don’t listen to that @shezmed guy - he’s a fool
Second, I think that’s why they’ve gone to a 10s standard penalty for overtaking off track and gaining an advantage. As I recall George Russell made a thing of it after admitting to overtaking off track and soaking up the 5s at cota last year
I guess soaking up 10s is twice as hard as a fiver
this exactly. max operating within the grey area is the most heinous crime punishable by death but lando pulling an obviously illegal move is so cutesy and totally forgivable cuz he couldn’t get past his championship rival on his own merit 🥺
Good point, Max always appears to plan his attacks X number of corners or laps before the overtake attempt. Norris lacked the intelligence and foresight to think ahead of the now.
Only the rules count.
It's always so funny about baxty and his mates, when it doesn't go their way they start crying. It was always already obvious that british never liked the dutch (see dutch expressions by the british, since the dutch are the only ones that successfully invaded the UK after the Roman empire), but Max makes them 100 times more salty 😂.
Carlos did same to max in the same corner on lap one and NOONE said anything about a penalty for Sainz for pushing max wide (Max did the smart thing and backed off). I sense a real bias here.
Cameron just thought I should mention Sainz is 60 points behind Leclerc- unused to talk about them in the same breath
Enjoyed the vid, and I always watch how Baxty reacts, and if it's not about Lewis he almost always puts Lewis in the mix. 🤣.it is clear that Baxty is British. 😇I know Cam and Shez are British too, but Baxty is biased as fudge, always good for a laugh 🤣
And that's why I can't take Baxty seriously, and yes Cam even if you say that Baxty knows a lot about F1, I still don't take him seriously. His bias is so strong. 🤣
Fudge is SUPER British 😅
@@shezmed 😜🤣
Did you hear the bit where I criticised Lando? Or praised Max for his defence? Or is your hatred of me so strong that you just hear the negative?
British Bias: 😭 when Max outplays the English driver!
You cannot overtake outside of the track.. that's the rules.
I am not going to break it all down but if you can’t enjoy this F1 conversation (not saying you have to agree with anything here) but this was a great recap of some of the really interesting moments during the COTA race.
The one thing I really do believe is McLaren should have taken the chance of giving the place back (sorry Shez & Cam). I do think Lando was starting to figure Max out. Stella needs to figure the FIA is not who you should put your money on…especially vs Max when he’s driving as well as he was. Max doesn’t make the same mistakes very often.
Lol, Baxty is still looking in the rulebook if there is something Max did wrong. Max was more than a meter ahead at the A-pax. Max is just a pure winner (racer) who knows the rules inside out and uses them to his advantage. Don's hate the player hate the Game! Legend! tricking Lando!
You can’t pass way off track and pass the driver in front of you. It’s that simple. Lando could have easily gotten a 10 second penalty with grid penalties. If and IF you make the argument that Max went off track he didn’t have as many track limits as Lando but then you enter the debate of 5 second penalty for Max and 10 second penalty for Lando.
Baxty says `UMMMMMmmmm` like he is providing his own dramatic GONG sound effects.
You know what, this is funny, I'll take that 😂
LOL I didn`t mean it in a derogatory way. I quite enjoyed it!
Quickly to think, Leclerc had triple bad races at least: Canadian, Britain, Austrian at least. He doesn't have fewer bad races than the others though
Canada and GB weren’t him going missing though - Ferrari had a lot to do with both.
Austria I agree - all on him
F1 is all about understanding the rules then finding the limits within the rules and exploiting them to your benefit... That's the same objective that guides car development and now drivers
One thousand percent. Very well said
@@Cameron-Cc dare I say, it is a craft in and of itself, to know what you can push and still remain within the regs.
Baxty find another job dude
I have 2 already. This is just a hobby
The first 5 minutes of this video is a pure example of the bias mindset towards Max.
Baxty said :
1. I complimented Max for his defense in the begining, "Which I rarely do"...
2. Max was just milimeters before Norris at the Apex. (Trying to downsize the fact that Max was first at the apex).
3. I feel, bla bla bla.
What you feel doesnt count. Rules are rules.
The black guy said something wise!
Don't hate the player , hate the game.
Just expressing an opinion. I'm not bound by any media standards. Just a bloke with a camera talking to other fans about the sport we love.
@@baxtybf1Thank you for clarifying.
I will adjust my comment.
It is just sad to see so much hate now towards a driver (sportsman).
Vamos Franco! 🇦🇷❤️
Lewis knows what to expect and acts accordingly, Norris knows what is going to happen but doesn't know what to do... Norris is a preprogrammed robot...
all Max had to do which he did was be ahead of the Apex
Baxty reads The Guardian and is fully vaccinated.
Baxty and his verstappen derangement syndrome
Where I praise & criticise him in the same pod?
The three 'bollards' at the end cracked me up 😂
I agree that Hadjar haven't shown anything special in any FP1s. I'd go for Arvid over Hadjar so VCARB got time and they need a driver that will surely score and can fill in just in time for 2026, new regs. I do not think it would hurt to get Franco in the VCARB. If they drop Checo, to some extent, Franco can at least retain a portion of that Latin market. Not to mention his growing number of sponsors too.
@@jandres0402 Colapinto was a nobody to you guys until he got an opportunity. FP1 mean nothing given different fuel loads, tyres and engine modes. Hadjar in all series has been better than colapinto. There are a solid 5 people in f2 better then him. Atleast 2/3 would would perform equal if not better then him too. Hadjar is one of them
@@arcane.1212 what an assumption that I haven’t been following Colapinto? 😂 Why does Marko yap about other drivers when they got a bunch in their junior program? Even Piastri is being considered to replace Max. This, to me, appears to be an implication of non-confidence. I’m not saying Hadjar isn’t talented. I watch the feeders. But who is he? The kid who got a good reflex in the Monaco track lmao 🤣 RB also seems to be considering the business aspect when choosing drivers too.
@@jandres0402marko loves to talk about every driver, thats just how he is. Colapinto has alot of hype around him right now. I'm not denying how good he is, but let's remember that other f2 drivers could be doing the same as he's doing right now.
I digress, don’t lower your value by talking to these people who don’t value the legends.
Isn't passing off of the track a 10 second penalty now? I thought they changed it in response to Russell's admission that it is a no brainer to pass cars off the track when you have a performance advantage and the penalty is only 5 seconds.
Are you serious!! Hadjar wasnt allowed to drive the rb becuase it was verstappens car, so they put him on hards and have him the safest runs to avoid any crash. Meanwhile other teams were more lax about it. You cant compare fp1 and judge how good people are 😂
He drove Checo's car...
@@baxtybf1 either way, the point is you can't judge drivers on fp1s ! the team put hadjar on hards mate on probably lower engine mode. Hadjar in all categories f2 f3 freca f4... has been better than colapinto.
Only few …have the cajones to take it to Maximillian verstappen such as one sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton (In British accent ). Ohhh it’s getting techy
If both should of been given penalties, then Lando should get 10 secs and Max 5 secs because overtaking and gaining an advantage off track is far more serious than abusing track limits
If Lando wins the championship and I don’t think he has a chance of it but if he did.. It would be a weak championship. The guy has only 3 wins all season..
Even Charles has that many wins this season.
I think Charles and Lewis have won some of the big races this year.
If it was the other way around then Baxty would say it was bold and brave move and good that he was showing Max that he can’t do everything and say “Max had to give the place back, rules are the rules , so he deserves the penalty “
He also gives Brazil ‘21 as an example, but Abu dhabi ‘21 Lewis DID the same as Lando…and there Max was within the lines…I didn’t hear him complaining about Lewis not giving the position back. Also Brazil ‘22 when Lewis hits Max and didn’t leave him room…Max had damage and went back all the way to the end of the pack…they punished Max instead of Lewis…Max complained shortly on the radio but said immediately after : “ but never mind..” he knew he could do nothing against it.
So Yes, the stewards are inconsistent but they are inconsistent towards everyone and Max has been a victim of this too. Shame that the complaining only happens towards Max .
Cam, Shaz, I suggest one of you do a compilation of all the incidents/accidents of the last 3/4 years and the outcome of the stewards decisions…I bet that that you will see that:
A. Max is not the only one who has aggressive actions. Only when Max does it, the British commentators are highlighting it and won’t let go …therefore they influence everyone , including the stewards(some of these stewards are biased too🥴)to have a bad image of Max. I think if he where British he had been called a legend who is bold and brave.
B. Max is punished more for these incidents than the others and sometimes unfairly. Also the moving under breaking: everybody does it but the others often don’teven get noted.
C. That the British commentators (especially Crofty and Palmer) are not consistent in their commentaries…more to their likings. They create this riot against Max.
Oh, and Baxty: Max DID get punished for outside the lines. He got track limits, but because he had only two track limits it didn’t lead to a penalty.
Ans about the first corner: the rules are that the stewards are not noting everything because it’s the first lap…just like in Spain when Lando pushed Max into the grass…🥴 please do see everything and compare everything and don’t just zoom in on Max. This guy deserves more respect for giving the people an exiting race…just wait and see what happens if he is sick of this all and leaves the sport early…I think a lot of people will turn of the tv.
his cleverness is predicated on the fact that FIA has got his back and no other driver has the luxury, it's not cleverness it's called unfairness
Cam ask the question if Max is too aggressive and lacks the skill or of Lando is just good at playing victim. Mexico City was wild but you watch it back and Lando wasn’t driving responsibly.
Let me explain, passing during a corner is always dangerous. One can argue that Lando is attacking Max at those points. The F1 community has been consistent at Max and his driving style, Norris knows this and puts hisself in these situations and plays victim. You can tell by his smirk.
Max is a smart guy indeed.... He's got Lando from close... He knows how mentally reacts. He knows him inside out as ppl use to say. They spent some time together as friends and Max simply keeps his notes. That is minus for Lando. Having your biggest opponent in friendly relationship doesn't help to bring him pressure with unexpected reactions. It seems Lando needs more from Oscar Mark Webber as a manager. Look how many friendships they make champions of the sport Schumacher at his times or how many drivers are close to Sir Lewis Hamilton. They know the game is cold and cold they are as well. Win your opponents mentally is half win. And I will not be surprised if in five years time Oscar have at his home least three championship trophies.
All the fia have to do is say, the driver that gets to the apex first must also keep the car on track. I wish all the drivers start doing what Mad max did, because you won't have any overtaking just drivers getting to the apex first and going off track.
No they just have to fix tracklimits by putting a gravel trap there.
Are you insane? There are plenty of overtakes with this rules. Norris is just horrible at it.
And don't act like a divebomb to get ahead at the Apex is easy. You can easily literally crash, or go too fast and then get past at the inside, etc.
Norris is just a terrible racer in a great driver body
Can you get Baxty on again for a review of Brazil? That will be fun! 😀
Norris did a schwalbe Baxty he was seeking and asking for a penalty for Max.
Max has been in the school of "hard knocks".........
Lando has had the quickest car since Miami. That a long time ago. And max has scored more points than Norris since Miami. Rest my case.
As with the rules it was Max's corner because he was in front at the apex of the corner. Therefore Lando had to back off. For that reason Max 'did not' push him off. That is how it is for the rules. Can we now please stop about it?
I wish in these situations you would stop referencing Michael for these types of driving standards, they were bad then they are bad now. Lets not forget he had bad driving standards but back then it was their small community sport now its proper international sport with eyes on you
So. Is it ok to push someone off even if you yourself go off? Then they have to just get behind you. Because?
The rules are largely written by Charly Whiting.
Wonder what verstappen's gonna get up to this wknd!!😂
Baxty being a Max hater feeds families 💀
Red Bull has unfairly kept Yuki out of the A-team seat. They’ve rotated drivers on him, waiting for one that would beat him so they could use that as an excuse…
That’s how pretentious the sport is about diversity and inclusion.
Yes, the inside guy always win, lando, went into the corner very fast with a Ferrari in from of Max, that was dangerous
Let people have their opinions without judging them every time they say something remotely negative about Max. Not everyone wil praise him in every move but it doesn't mean they have biased hate against Max.
Having said that: Dudududuh Max Verstappen! 😂 praise the God of racing
Max lives rent free in baxty’s head lmao
Why is Baxty ever on the podcast? He has no objectivity. Pointless!
Looks like this baxty guy is the new brendan shaub looking through comments, i will refrain from adding to the negativity cloud
Ha ha, I only do it on release day and then I move on
The "rules" r just guidelines n ppl always break them. It is the fault of ppl policing if they can't stop those taking pee to protect the integrity of racing.
The FIA should get there act in place, or go…
Rules rules even if FIA makes changes, we will see Max and Alonso still get to the limits of the rule and get everybody talking again. If someone has a better racing brain we should appreciate it. DOT.
I have no idea who that (white) guy in the middle is, but I’ve never seen so much hate towards Max by a so called expert. Everything he said was complete rubbish and full of frustration. He even looks angry! I’m shocked by his performance and why he’s given a platform to spread his hate.
Baxty AGAIN is so sour and bitter towards Max
Brittish roze colored glasses, but it's simple . defender ahead at apex, overtaker needs to give him space , even if that means breaking and or avoiding by going off track.
Max went into the corner to fast, but so did Lando, as otherwise Lando could have done the switchback. .
If the overtaker stays alongside on the outside ,than it's on him if he get's pushed of the track, but he can't overtake whilst off the track.
British fans always think their driver has the right of way , and bend or interper the rules to suit that narrative.
Max knows how to use the rules to his favour, and if you can't keep a faster car with DRS and on better tyres behind longer than ten laps and till the end of the race, you let him make a illegal overtake.
Max is smart in his racecraft , Lando not so much .
Lando and mclaren should have given the position back straight away , as Lando was almost certain to have a increasing advantage in speed and tyres in the laps after.
That’s not what the stewards said
They reckoned Lando was out in the weeds because he had nowhere else to go, because Max pushed him out there
It’s in black and white
Baxty is in denial!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lando is lacking so much to run against max that i don’t even know where to start. But it’s simple really, lando is a race winner but not a champion contender. Not yet at least. Back in 2021 max got a 10second penalty not 5 but 10!! For lewis pushing him off the track in bahrain and noone was up in arms for that were they?😅😅🤣🤣🤣. Lando ain’t it! He needs to grow a pair of 🥚 and a 🧠 to go up against max.
Lando is lacking so much to run against max that i don’t even know where to start. But it’s simple really, lando is a race winner but not a champion contender. Not yet at least. Back in 2021 max got a 10second penalty not 5 but 10!! For lewis pushing him off the track in bahrain and noone was up in arms for that were they?😅😅🤣🤣🤣. Lando ain’t it! He needs to grow a pair of 🥚 and a 🧠 to go up against max.
Stop inventing!!! These guys are literally just inventing shit up for real. They just conveniently ignoring thr fact that there were a few similar incidents of overtaking off track that were penalized in the same corner! So just because it's max vs Lando, stewards should apply different standards??
It's a joke listening to these guys, not even worth my time.
Keep crying, Lando ain't going to win the championship, mates.
Bruh, Lando was avoiding an incident. Is lando supposed to stop and wait for max if max had a more serious issue with his car? If max went off the track than you automatically have to assume he had an issue. Why did Lando pay for max’s mistake? These guys are ELITE, they make movements within millimeters of variance lap to lap. Why couldnt the FIA analyze max’s behavior and deems that he was braking in an egregious manner to cause an incident? Thats what happened.
well Lando avoided an incident but didn't avoid the penalty .You cannot overtake off track , even if he had no other choice he should have given back the position . Max was ahead at the apex so the corner and the position was his as per the rules . Simple as that !
@@madalinbpopa im sorry I just dont agree. That is an archaic depiction of motor racing formed by primitive sporting behaviors to which has no place in modern f1. As I said, these guys are so elite, they should and could race tough yet classy at the same time. Its a disservice to f1, the drivers and the fans to think of the most elite form of motor racing as brute force. Modern f1 is about forcing mistakes through driving, operationally and technical. And if you fall short then have the honor to concede then fight another day. Thats f1, anything less is another series.
@@philippederosierjr.2319 yes , you go tell Max Verstappen and the stewards what modern F1 is all about, teach us some more values of the sport pls , lets make it more like equestrian , ballet or ice skating . Jesus Christ , F1 is about racing hard , it's always been this way , when did this community become such a bunch of p*****s ??
@@philippederosierjr.2319 I take you to Baku sprint race 2023.... Max on outside Russel on inside, Russel running in to Max side pod and Max has to break to prevent hitting the wall. Russel no penalties becouse he wa s ahead at the apex.... Everyone blamed Max becouse he placed his car where it shouldn't be. Seems it's only fair if anyone butax push people wide??
F1 is rife with corruption. It makes it hard to enjoy. 1:01
Lando crybaby is not championship material.... inferior racer compared with max....
Brits talking about F1. No, thanks.
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These 5 minute bias armchair experts wear me down. Take your Pokemon and go talk about something else !