To avoid any confusion here the first reel aptly played by Frankie is usually referred as Austin Teirneys The great Michael Coleman also recorded this tune in the early twenties but he played another reel with it and both tunes by the great master Coleman were collectively titled Farewell to lreland as Coleman himself a lonely emmigrant ,trapped in exile
I believe there are two Farewells to Ireland but one is actually Farewell to Erin, he is playing the Farewell To Ireland. The 2nd tune is Christmas Eve. As for his playing he is truly one of the greats and he wants to sound exactly like he is playing with the unmistakable Frankie Gavin Growly sound. Fiddlplay
I've listened to them both. Frankie's version is more raw and passionate and leaves me spellbound whereas I find Cathal's technically brilliant but less exciting. Personally I would go to watch Frankie play given the choice; he truly makes his fiddle sing.
The version of Hayden paying this tune that's on youtube is a little tame, by his standards: he's taking a straight, pure trad approach. When he wants, Hayden can be just as exciting as Frankie, believe me. Frankie's rawer, but Hayden is capable of extraordinary creativity, energy, feeling - and can be just as aggressive while maintaining unbelievable purity of tone.
Listened to both Ciaran. To me Cahals version is the sweetest His fiddle sounded less scratchy than Frankies and the tune flowed as it should. Two great fiddlers though.Probably a bit biast ,but my favourite fiddler has to be Desmond Donnelly better known as Dezi Donnelly. Bye the way. If you are the Box Player Ciaran Kelly. My late father thought you were a fantastic player
One of my favourite players from my youth, along with Tommy Peoples, when I used to play in fiddle competitions. Looking at this now, I sense he’s had some classical training - from the cleanliness of the bow action, and the positioning of the left hand frame for the double stopping. But with this pedigree dressed up by eg pointlessly not cleaning the rosin from the fingerboard and top. Beautiful playing still!
Nope he's a self taught fiddler. He was already all ireland champion under 18 in fiddle and flute at age 17 (wikipedia). His left hand is remarkable though for a self-taught player.
It's dance music Can't look at it too subtly. I mean, I agree there's a difference, and I happen to absolutely love Tommy Peoples. Love both of 'em, actually.
@blugrassdave Perhaps another fiddler can enlighten me, but I don't believe that sound has anything to do with the bridge, but rather his bowing technique, and it's likely on purpose. And personally, I thoroughly enjoy the tone he gets, but to each his own, I suppose!
The scratching is most definitely intentional. Just look at how he's bowing! The intonation, well some of that is just how fiddle music sometimes sounds. There's also a bit of thinness from the sound system, which may also be a part of it. Not always a fan of Frankie's playing style, but this is really good.
fearfeasog Being married to a fiddler and violin instructor I hear her dismay over why they leave it on. It is actually very bad for the finish of the violin.
I don't suppose it could do it any good, after all. I'll have to ask my Irish fiddler friends what's the scoop on this brazen laziness associated with rosin and Irish trad!
yes there is an intonation problem, and that's what people don't get on this stupid comments page. Some people like bad intonation and rough playing...well okay good for you. But is it a matter of taste?
Just going to earlier comments about it rough sound and intonation. For Gavin, this example of his playing is not good. It's like he so used to playing tune twice as fast and he's on t v and has held the reigns back. He gets so many orlamentations in to his playing fast, he's not getting any more in playing slow. It's just sounds like him playing slow. Another thing is the amount of rosin on the strings!! The string are biting the bow, thus taking any chance of a smoother connection. Not th
the tune is also known as f****ing off to England :)
I love the spirit in this music. I can't pinpoint it, but it sounds like it coming straight out of the chest.
Brilliant Stunningly beautiful as you would expect from such a genius
To avoid any confusion here the first reel aptly played by Frankie is usually referred as Austin Teirneys The great Michael Coleman also recorded this tune in the early twenties but he played another reel with it and both tunes by the great master Coleman were collectively titled Farewell to lreland as Coleman himself a lonely emmigrant ,trapped in exile
So beautifully sung.
there are no words to describe his playig... he's just amazing
Thanks for posting these two fine fiddlers. I love 'em both!!
I believe there are two Farewells to Ireland but one is actually Farewell to Erin, he is playing the Farewell To Ireland. The 2nd tune is Christmas Eve. As for his playing he is truly one of the greats and he wants to sound exactly like he is playing with the unmistakable Frankie Gavin Growly sound. Fiddlplay
Absolutely stunning performance, I personally love the scratchyness and it's not overdone at all. Also xmas eve is played at a great pace for learning
played to perfection!
It's flipping useful seeing fiddlers fingers for learning the tunes and techniques though!!
I've listened to them both. Frankie's version is more raw and passionate and leaves me spellbound whereas I find Cathal's technically brilliant but less exciting. Personally I would go to watch Frankie play given the choice; he truly makes his fiddle sing.
The version of Hayden paying this tune that's on youtube is a little tame, by his standards: he's taking a straight, pure trad approach. When he wants, Hayden can be just as exciting as Frankie, believe me. Frankie's rawer, but Hayden is capable of extraordinary creativity, energy, feeling - and can be just as aggressive while maintaining unbelievable purity of tone.
Apparently not to be confused with Frankie Gavin the boxer.
toni de marco has the same problems
Be good to see the boxer do some footwork and handiwork to it tho.
LOVE IT!!!
Make yerself smile, Frankie boy! :)
Listened to both Ciaran. To me Cahals version is the sweetest His fiddle sounded less scratchy than Frankies and the tune flowed as it should. Two great fiddlers though.Probably a bit biast ,but my favourite fiddler has to be Desmond Donnelly better known as Dezi Donnelly. Bye the way. If you are the Box Player Ciaran Kelly. My late father thought you were a fantastic player
Nice video.
Heard of "Farewell to Erin".
Farewell To lreland was recorded in the 20s by the great Michael Coleman who may have felt like a lonely emmigrant trapped in exile
Barney had a great version of this.
@Lisnageeragh it's called sawing
Sounds like a farewell I'd like to see.
frankie gavin is the master
Farewell to Erin the first melody. Erin meaning Ireland in Gaelic.
One of my favourite players from my youth, along with Tommy Peoples, when I used to play in fiddle competitions. Looking at this now, I sense he’s had some classical training - from the cleanliness of the bow action, and the positioning of the left hand frame for the double stopping. But with this pedigree dressed up by eg pointlessly not cleaning the rosin from the fingerboard and top. Beautiful playing still!
Nope he's a self taught fiddler. He was already all ireland champion under 18 in fiddle and flute at age 17 (wikipedia). His left hand is remarkable though for a self-taught player.
@@joefagan9335 Mr rabbit taught him. Told me so himself
@JanJeffer There's an expression in Hollywood--"Everybody wants to direct."
Martin Hayes ...any views??
It's dance music Can't look at it too subtly. I mean, I agree there's a difference, and I happen to absolutely love Tommy Peoples. Love both of 'em, actually.
@blugrassdave Is it the bridge or bowing ...or both ...is there an intonation problem?
Any fiddlers opinions?
@blugrassdave Perhaps another fiddler can enlighten me, but I don't believe that sound has anything to do with the bridge, but rather his bowing technique, and it's likely on purpose.
And personally, I thoroughly enjoy the tone he gets, but to each his own, I suppose!
Sure it does.
Frankie is slowing turning into a leprechaun, one day he will wake up and there will be a crock of gold under his bed.
The scratching is most definitely intentional. Just look at how he's bowing! The intonation, well some of that is just how fiddle music sometimes sounds. There's also a bit of thinness from the sound system, which may also be a part of it.
Not always a fan of Frankie's playing style, but this is really good.
WHERE CAN I FUND THE SCORE PLEASE!
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Man.. Everyone know that.
it's got nothing to do with the fiddle!
does anyone know the name of the last tune?!
I believe it's called "Christmas Eve."
Yep, it's Christmas Eve
compared to Tommy Peoples who actually does have a bit of intonation
meanaboll
Why doesn't he clean the rosin of is fiddle?
+HerdingDogRescuer more time to practice? :-/
fearfeasog
Best response yet! Thank you! It was written as a joke comment and some people just don't get it! Thanks and cheers.
none of my trad playing friends clean it. who cares, right? It's like an hourglass, right? the more rosin, the more you've played! :D
fearfeasog Being married to a fiddler and violin instructor I hear her dismay over why they leave it on. It is actually very bad for the finish of the violin.
I don't suppose it could do it any good, after all. I'll have to ask my Irish fiddler friends what's the scoop on this brazen laziness associated with rosin and Irish trad!
yes there is an intonation problem, and that's what people don't get on this stupid comments page. Some people like bad intonation and rough playing...well okay good for you. But is it a matter of taste?
Pat Mustard did Frankie rob one of your milk bottles?
Darren Sings In The Shower he did actually.
@@untonsured haha 😃
Great musician , its a shame he dont take that fiddle to worked on to get rid of that scratchy sound in it. Needs bridge work.
Just going to earlier comments about it rough sound and intonation. For Gavin, this example of his playing is not good. It's like he so used to playing tune twice as fast and he's on t v and has held the reigns back.
He gets so many orlamentations in to his playing fast, he's not getting any more in playing slow. It's just sounds like him playing slow.
Another thing is the amount of rosin on the strings!! The string are biting the bow, thus taking any chance of a smoother connection.
Not th
sounds like a chainsaw