Battle of Austerlitz | Napoleon Clip
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
- Brand new clip of Joaquin Phoenix in NAPOLEON showcasing the Battle of Austerlitz. In Theaters November 22.
Video Source: Fandango / Sony / Apple Films
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napoleon actually had a little microphone & all his soldiers had earpieces, so they could hear him shout orders across the entire battlefield
im glad i wasnt the only one thinking this, where the fuck are the signal trumpets and flags. i thought this was suppose to be a history epic?
Go watch a documentary if you want. Otherwise fill in the obvious gaps yourself.
@@ginjaedgy49it’s obviously condensed for cinematic purposes. It’s just a given that all that happens off screen.
@@GojiraFan25 all they had to do was have men repeating and relaying his orders in the background at the very least. it's not a hard thing to do. It's just poor directing
@@ginjaedgy49I think Ridley Scott is better at being movie Director than @ginjaedgy49
Haha i love how napoleon is directing it like a pokemon trainer
YES LOLOLOL
@@scepteredisleWait! Send in char char and pikachu cavelry
more like a mount and blade commander
@@sebastjankoracin7774 "Infantry hear me! Charge!"
"Cavalry! Hear me! Charge!"
- The entire battle of Austerlitz according to whatever fool made this
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It sounds more like he's ordering a cheese burger no pickles, not a Grand Army
How should he give orders? Not like they can hear him give incredible speeches
@@yamnayaseed356quietly to his men under his command, they then shout the orders
As historical accurate as a F16-jetfighter...
Ok
Ok
Does Ridley Scott think wars are literally like a Total War game where the Commander just says something and it automatically happens....
I dont think anyone would watch a movie where its just messengers running back and forth for several hours
@@Spiderfisch bro 1917? Lol
@@Spiderfisch Napoleon owes a degree of success to his Marshalls who took initiative in the absence of orders.
@@Spiderfisch You have to keep things moving for the sake of the film, but it shouldn't just be instantaneous either. It's hard to tell if this clip was edited though to make it shorter and snappier for marketing. The full film might not keep this pace.
Man has seen gameplay of mount and blade once and was convinced that was how battles worked.
Napoleon in Austerliz was like 35 years, here he's looking like just escape Elba island.
Napoleon should have been a series
Correct.
And hiring historians from France and countries involved in the Napoleonic wars to faithfully recreate the costumes and battles. Also use military experts from said countries to recreate battle formations from those eras
Tienes razón, interpretada por Joaquín y con un poco mas de precisión en los eventos. Se lleva la corona.
This is not Austerlitz, but some kind of fight in a camp!
This is Austerliz.The history of ice bombing dates back to that event. Then denied by historians, only in recent years
@@lucaminichetti7083You are either French or deluded.Read more on the subject.
@@leithblower the beauty of the story is precisely the undeniability of the sources. I've read enough on the topic 😉 Austerliz is history. Word of historians
keith what's the difference? lmao
@@lucaminichetti7083Everything you said just then was wrong.
Napoleon's masterpiece reduced to a 2 minute clip of a small ambush in a random norwegian fjord.
IRL, the countryside near Austerlitz looks like southern England 😂
Its a clip idiot
I feel like Napoleon's life would've been better formatted as a miniseries, I'm really concerned how Ridley Scott condensed 20 years of war into 2-3 hours of film. Still hopeful that the movie will do Napoleon justice, though
He sounds so fucking bored and like he's reading a newspaper script
I don't think ridley care simp
I really hope this clip is edited and that most of the battle is left out for the movie.
How could you possibly build up tension if this is the only thing we get from Austerlitz ? This battle should be a cornerstone for the whole movie.
I don't know what I'm looking at here, but I do know that Napoleonic warfare is very much about moving huge formations across kilometre-long battlefields. The procedures are as epic as they are deadly. Austerlitz in particular was all about deception, capturing tactical positions and timing the arrival of reinforcements. A drama in itself ... another campaign, but watch the BBC's War and Peace from 2016. The opening of Borodino is just a tiny slice. But even in its limitations as a TV series, it portrays that atmosphere quite well ...
Yep, tv show with 1% of the budget of this cr4p made the battle of Borodino 10x more accurate... and interesting... and longer.
Beautiful but terrible in historical accuracy. I'll go see anyway
It’s cinematic reality. Otherwise it’s called documentation no one would watch it.
In what ways, specifically, is this scene historically inaccurate to the real battle?
Shooting the ice was done on cavalry retreat, it wasn’t a mass rout. And it wasn’t as efficient, killed a couple of dozen cavalry
It’s a 2:38 hour movie with 6 major battles on screen. Ridley Scott knows he has to make each battle visually different and interesting and also quickly establish Napoleon as military genius.
@@jasonking3182that's the thing tho.
You can't explain how much of a genius Napoleon was if you aren't able to at least do Austerlitz proper.
Some battles you can skip but this one, along with the Berezina escape and Waterloo have to be the cornerstones.
This clip doesn't do Napoleon's genius any justice. And it makes his opponents look dumb.
Artistic freedom is one thing and butchering the source material is quite another. This firmly falls into the later category.
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In what ways, specifically, is this scene historically inaccurate to the real battle?
@tzetzat where to start ? No higher ground for Napoleon, unlike what's shown here. The whole purpose of the battle was for Napoleon to appear weakened and ready to surrender. He purposedly gave up the higher ground before the battle started and lured the coalition to strike his right flank, timing a counterattack to dismantle their center by taking the heights while his weak flank would get reinforcements from one of his Marshals coming from Vienna at speed. The canons and army in general weren't hidden by giant cloaks but by mist in the morning and that was just a tiny bit of it.
And the ice thing is arguably a tiny detail of the battle happening only by the end of it when Russian army was already lost.
All in all, Austerlitz is famously known for the general movement of Napoleon's army, (giving the higher ground to the enemy only to take it in a counterattack) more than it is known for the purely anecdotal ice "trap" (which wasn't even a trap). That the sequence we have here focused only on this and shows no other reference to any of the actual battle is worrying. Because these battles have so much drama and twists and heroic moments from both sides you can make a whole movie about them.
We need to see the context around it but the general flow and horrible pacing make it disappointing so far. 2mns sequence for a masterpiece of strategy and a battle which would end a 1000+ years lasting Empire in a day seem a bit expeditive to say the least.
@@kaseigunsou Thanks for the breakdown, L'Empereur would be proud
@@kaseigunsou Not to mention, the ice thing was mostly Napoleonic propaganda. He said he killed hundreds of men on the ice when it was more like a few dozen.
I just saw the movie with my wife today. When 0:57 showed the ice, my wife figured out Napoleon was going to use artillery to break the ice. I felt so proud of this woman.
Ridley Scott : I will show more than the duelists for less effect
yeah this has nothing to do with Austerlitz
damm i knew would be bad but not this bad holy crap
My man’s turning in his grave…
If this is supposed to show just Napoleon's weak right flank fighting, it hurts a little less. But if this is supposed to be the whole battle than this is a sin. This didn't happen in one place the amies were spread out for kilometers and it was happening for hours. If this is supposed to show just Davout's corps fighting it still isn't accurate. The fighting was happening among houses and villages. It didn't happen on ice, when Austrians were retreating they had to pass over ice. But it looks amazing.
U were there?
Pretty funny, not only is Phoenix a dozen years older than Napoleon was here, but he's older than all but a small number of soldiers who participated in it.
Total War: Empire 2 looking good.
He’s me when I’m playing total war
Pratzen Heights ice was only knee high. Not this deep but its ok
This event happened in Telnitz southwest of the Pratzen Heights
For a well realised, cgi-less depiction of auzterlitz and napoleon's life, one can watch the napoleon 4 episode miniseries from 2002 or the movie waterloo.
Yes
At its core rhe Battle of Austerlitz is:
Napoleon argueing/convincing his marshals that they could trap and destroy the allied army.
The deception plan by showing the allies that the French were in disarray. This is high lited by the French abandoning the Pratzen Heights.
The nite torch lite procession where Napoleon visited his army.
Davouts force march from Vienna to Austerlitz. He arrives from the south to attack the allies from the flank.
The fog hiding Soults corps at the base of the Pratzen heights.
Kutuzov confronting the Tsar not to move off the heights to attack the French right. Kutuzov had figured out Napoleons plan but nobody would listen to him.
Napoleons decision to commit Soult in seizing Pratzen. "How long will it take you to seize the heights?" "20 minutes sire. " At this time, the fog lifted, and the French soldiers began to cheer. This is the Sun of Austerlitz
The destruction of the allied army with the route over the ice.
Sadly, what we see is a lot of artistic license by Ridley. Everything i have mentioned can be covered in a half hour?
Paraphrasing Maximus: Marcus Aurelius had a dream, and this is not it.
I will still see the movie.
You are bothered by all this and not by terrible depiction of attack? They attack like headless chickens. They suppose to be in tight formations moving about.
I agree and also find the short version we got it incredibly hard to follow. The fast pacing coming from the editing is horrible. There is absolutely no tension.
I would have used Austerlitz to lay the ground for what will be relevant in the defining battles later on : the corps, the cavalry, the weak flanks, the speed of Napoleon's army. All of that will be relevant when crossing the Berezina or fighting at Waterloo.
Seems we don't even see any Marshals fighting. How are you supposed to feel for them, feel for Ney breaking through in Russia against all odds, against Davout joining here after a 2 days walk ?
I'll wait for the reviews to decide whether or not I'll see the movie. If it is a fast paced movie trying to do everything at once and not even exploiting what makes Napoleon such a major character, there's no point as there are already tons of material available which seem to be providing better tension.
Austerlitz is a masterpiece, it deserves more than a 2mns good looking but awfully written sequence.
@Zoltan1251 your right but if I talk about le ordre mix then it becomes way too technical
What a load of crap. This isn't Austerlitz; this is wild fiction. Allied casualties from the ice were log ago shown to have been wildly exaggerated.
The only hope left for a good work on Napoleon is Steven Spielberg's mini- series. I hope that he's not delusional like Scott is.
The actual scene is longer and makes more sense than what's shown here.
yeah by like 30 seconds
This is how the Joker travels back in time to the Napoleonic era to kill his enemies in cold blood.
The French cavalry looked very handsome.
Oh wauw de Engelsen en Oostenrijikers spreken Engels. Ik wist niet dat dat de voertaal was voor die twee landen in die tijd.
The 4 hour version is gonna be a masterpiece truly 🤩 joaquin phoenix could possibly get his 2nd oscar for this film
Wait there’s gonna be a 4 hour version of this film??
@bryan...5047 yeah on the apple TV app I heard
I'm so excited
They always have to show people charging forward chaotically at full speed. Do that in war and you die, even now.
Watch Bondarchuk's 1967 version of War and Peace for a much better take on 18th century warfare.
This happens not in Europe but on Europe: on Jupiter's moon Europa 😃😃
Which explains this dark tint.
LOL Ridley Scott just love dark atmosphere - Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, The Last Duel... Prometheus....
I love the music score here! Can't wait to see this movie!
This is definitly not how it went down lol
Napoleon doesn’t need the high-ground, because he IS the high ground!
He was in the Pratzen Hills during this time when he order three divisions to swing down to envelope the enemy.
I would buy this film just for this scene and the lead up.
Eso no es ni el 1% de lo que fue Austerlitz, pero que genial escena.
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Es lo malo de tener un asco de escritor
I cant imagine how smart was Napoleon.... He was not like other emperors of his time he wanted peace in Europe but coalition forced him to defend the interests of his country.
Napoleon was the greatest military geneous in human history. So please don't make his enemies a bunch of fools tricked by some covered pieces of guns. They were determined, well organized veterans, mighty forces prepared by great empires.
Hoping the alleged 4 hour version of the movie will have more scenes and the battle scene will make more sense...this is History's Vikings level of dumbed down representation of actual battle tactics and troop movements, damn.
But I guess the average viewer as always will be in awe at the main protagonist yelling "cavalry go flank!!!", then the madmen cavalry immediately does it right 2 seconds after, on the fuckign screen, amazing.
They definitely will not include more battle footage in the extended cut. Every second of filming with this many extras and pyrotechnics is insanely expensive so it’s all choreographed down to the second - the extra footage will likely just be him and Josephine or some other non-battle footage
1812 pattern flag in 1805 still won't stop me going to see it
The best scene
Honestly this with some changes works better as the battle of Eylau, just change the austrian attack force by augereau attack force
It’s is not historically accurate but it’s does have some resemblance to the real battle and I will agree it is a amazingly filmed scene
And what resemblance would that be? Bulk of Napoleon's enemies at Austerlitz were Russians and not Austrians, they couldn't even get more green than white uniforms in this scene.
In this clip they attack literally just by running like morons. This is the stupidest depiction of battles from that period that i have ever seen.
I mean strategic resemblance tho I wish they had notes go to each general then have Napoleon say all the orders I’m aware it was mostly Russians
For those wondering why Napolean could shout orders so easily, it is called the Nel effect - when the weather is cold, air is denser and so is the vitupero caelaphrae of air, letting sound traverse more easily and louderally. Napolean also used a spell called Amu Tei which amplifies sound in a conic section before him.
I have watch so many hours of Epic History TV, Kings & Generals and Invicta etc to know that this is not historically accurate, haven't seen the movie yet, hopefully it's gonna be good
It has no resemblence to historical battle of austerlitz i mean first napoleon didnt ocupy the high ground he was on lower ground that is why austerlitz was such a great victory since he was able to beat an opponent with higher ground with less troops than the enemy secondly i cant even identify what woul be a plateau of pratzen in this scene thirdly i dont know what that cav charge is supposed to represent myb the heavy assault of allies against the french right or the counterattack of the russian guard but they wore austrian uniforms so idk also the battle was faught in the morning so there was much more light i mean look up the phrase the sun of austerlitz also the ice wasnt ever meant to be a trap by napoleon he simply ordered to artilery to fire there since he noticed he could increase allies loses one thing i forgot which is absurdly funny if you know anything about napoleonic warfare artillery wouldnt be used at end of the battle but it would usually actually start off the battle and be used heavily especially by napoleon lol best known for his use of artillery
intense
They forgot to include The Russian Commander, von Buxhoeveden who was drunk as skunk during the battle and whom fell from his horse twice ; not because of enemy fire but because of drunkness, he’s Aidees had to drag him over and he barely escaped the retreat .
So instead of battle at pratzen heights, cavalry battle at Napoleon left flank and at right flank long battle of small French army and 2-3 times bigger austro-russian army u want silly moments with drunk general that was not commander of the army?
@@eternaleternity2381 not commander ? Bxhoeveden was the commander in chief of Russian forces alongside Kutuzov
@@ernestoA.1999 Kutuzov was the commander, "commanders in chief" were emperors Franz and Alexander, and you're drunk... or just a bit sIow....
or both most likely.
@@stlawstlaw7585 hard drinking Kutuzov may have been the overall Commander but it was Von Buxhoveden who commanded the left wing of the army
I don't think Napoleon was near Telnitz when it happened
Flawless victory
I am trying to imagine what will piss the French more, an epic battle finished in minutes (with possible inaccuracies) or Napoleon speaking native English.
how did the austrians/russians not know that they were on a lake since it was their lands? is this even historically accurate?
why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
got it @@ianscolari5916
It is historical accurate. That happened
Was it too much to ask for something similar to the Battle of Gaugamela in Alexander?
the music in the beginning sounds like that one track in "joker"
YES FINALLY
This movie looks insane
No
It's not very good in historical accuracy and the battle is too short but it looks good anyway......and finally not a stupid super hero film or a fucking remake or things like that..... thank you.... finally something that looks interesting
19th-century military couriers/messengers/aides/bands/signalers: "Are we a joke to you?"
Okay all of us Napoleon enthusiasts can agree this is not at all historically accurate. Nonetheless, we are all going to see it lol
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May seem piddling but wasn't that day relatively decent for winter like 35F and clear or so?
Napoleon pioneered the use of airpods in battle before the japanese in ww2 did
Basically all it's missing it's a giant blue sky beam
Bro this soundtrack 🔥
They did Joaquin’s Napoleon dirty, I really liked the movie but comparing it to Waterloo, if they made Joaquin’s script for napoleon and battle scenes like Waterloo better, no one could’ve ever matched Joaquin’s napoleon, instead they really disrespected him just like Andrew Garfield in Spider-Man 2. He is an amazing actor and they shat on his face
napoleon's greatest victory reduced to this shlock
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I love Napoleon and was looking forward to seeing this movie. But I have seen too many movie battles butchered by Hollywood to hold out too much hope for this one. The battle looks pretty pathetic compared to how it should be. It saddens me that the thing that the director draws attention to is the breaking of the ice. That is such a small and inconsequential part of the battle that it should not even matter. It also looks very small in scale. Another historical battle was ruined.
Just watch Waterloo from 1970 if you want to see a Napoleonic War movie, much better in every way.
Wow...napoleon whispers some orders and 2 miles away the army follows his orders 😂
I Love how everybody speaks english lmao
The majority of replies:
“This scene is a travesty of inaccuracy [Insert thinly disguised opportunity to let the world know how much history]
The music tho. Sounds vaguely like Wardruna
Lol oh boy. Where to start?
Napoleon is rolling in his grave due to this movie
Napoleon Bonapart was the main rampart for saving the republic. He was the guardian of new freedom acquired by France citizen during the revolution, themselves inspired by the American revolution and all the story of Le Marquis de Lafayette.
All the European countries where attacking France to put a king back on the French throne. Napoleon Bonapart was not only loved but necessary for France to exist as free and without him we would not know the world as it is today.
I hope this movie is not going to picture him as a hateful person, greedy for power, a small dwarf with a temper who wanted only blood... which was the english propaganda at that time to fight against him in the eternal was that oppose france and england over who will control the european continent.
putin n'importe quoi 😄😄😄😄😄 " He was the guardian of new freedom acquired by France citizen during the revolution, themselves inspired by the American revolution and all the story of Le Marquis de Lafayette."
So opposed to having a king that he crowned himself emperor, as if that were any different. And he was a pretty terrible person who was mostly in it for himself.
"look, the only way we're going to save this republic is if it's an empire"
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he was a radical jacobin during the republic. He supported Robespierre even after he proclaimed his empire by writing letters in favor of him. He was proclaimed savior of the revolution when he used canons to destroy royalist mobs. He ordered the execution of royalists even after they have surrendered during the toulon’s offensive. He was a friend of the brother of Robespierre. He was arrested during the fall of Robespierre by the thermidoriens for being a jacobin. The coup d’etat of Napoleon was not really his idea, but the idea of another radical general from the north who wanted to abolish the corrupt directory government (considered to me too moderate) and replace the directory constitution with the revolutionary constitution that existed during the jacobins.
Napoleon just used this opportunity to save the French Revolution that was threatened militarily by a coalition of monarchist empires that were dangerously getting close Paris. While Napoleon was winning all his military battles in the south during the campaign of Italy with a very bad equipped army, the northern revolutionary armies were losing their battles and approaching Paris .
So Napoleon used the coup d’etat of another general, the other general invited Napoleon to join him cuz Napoleon was already popular for his campaign of Italy, to then try to convince the deputies that Napoleon arrived to save them from a jacobin plot and bring them to safety. Then a long argumentation happened because a lot of deputies didn’t believe it until the brother of Napoleon arrived and said : "I swore to put my sword in the belly of my brother Bonaparte if he ever betrays the Liberty of the French!".
Eventually it convinced the deputies to accompany Napoleon to a castle. The next day, the deputies were told to go back to their homes. Finally Napoleon was part of the 5 committee members , then became the consul and used a referendum to ask the French if they agreed for him to become a Republican emperor, which they majority accepted cuz the revolution was under a threat by the foreign enemies of revolutionary France.
So Napoleon took the commands of all armies. But the greatest campaign of Napoleon happened during the republic, during the campaign of Italy, because he succeeded to win even when he was outnumbered with a low moral army that was outdated at the beginning with low ressources. The army of Napoleon during the republic, known as the army of Italy, was supposed to be a diversion, but Napoleon made it the main show.
@@bluemarlin8138and when revolutionary France under Napoleonic empire, the anthem (chant du depart) was still a Republican song that praised the republic and hated on European kings. Even the song (veillons au salut de l’empire) is still very revolutionary in his lyrics because it criticizes despotism and praises Liberty…
Thought a summarized version of Austerlitz old movies and recent series hace recreated better this battle even in a short time frame shot. Hope this two minutes don’t reflect the full movie as a whole.
I just wish they all had British accents
Joaquin is wearing vegan clothes in the film 🌱💚💚💚💚💚💚
This depiction of Napoleon's greatest military achievement is as disastrous and hopeless as Napoleon's Russian campaign.
I hope this is just a badly cut snippet and not the whole battle. This is lacking on so many levels despite the stunning pictures.
I thought the austro-russians had the high grounds (pratzen heights) at Austerlitz ? This is the opposite, Napoleon overseeing the field and an ambush scene....
I have troubles seeing where that would fit in the battle...
It's very end of battle, Napoleon already won the battle at pratzen heights by this moment.
And this is second part of austro-russian army that were fighting significantly smaller French army which is the reason why Napoleon could use equal chances and army sizes at pratzen heights and win.
@@eternaleternity2381 Sry but this makes no sense.
This is made to look like and ambush on austrian troops attacking a french camp.
Why would the french camp be so close to the lake when when you look at a map of the battle, the french camp was on the other side of the battlefield...
@@Soenglish44 sorry, that's right, they were chasing the Austro-Russian army to the lake.
Let them think they have the high ground????? Seriously?? The Russians and Austrians are literally surrounded by higher ground.
Can't wait for the Borodino, Moscow retreat, Battle of Nations and Waterloo scenes
How can they possibly put all that in a movie less than 3 hours long? It's going to feel like a super-long trailer, I fear...
the moscow retreat in the movie " the duelist "" is amazing
Yeah, I'm fearing the same. I think the film quality and acting are going to be the only entertaining features of this film. Having studied Napoleon for 20+ years and seeing this, makes me somewhat sad.
Only 6 battle scenes, based on what we've seen I don't think we'll get either Borodino or Leipzig, and almost certainly not both.
Ahhh yes the calm napoleon that never existed🤣🤣🤣
True. I’ll still see it though.
Napoleon Total War the Movie
The 2002 miniseries did it better tbh
So is this movie accurate or?
No. The battle was actually fought on solid ground not ice
It is accurate... as much as Alien 😃
I don't think Joaquin Phoenix is a good choice for Napoleon. He looks like a cold blooded, depressive psycho with insomnia rather that the energic, passionate and extremely charismatic character Napoleon was. Waterloo (1970) depicts a much more accurate version of how Napoleon really was.
""""Austerlitz""""
Y'all realize this film is cover a dude's 10? Something years of power while covering a LOT of his battles and wars? Yeah theyre only going to fit in a 6 hour battle into a minute
Where's the sun !?
There is Absolutely no way this battle could have ever been historically accurate think about it it’s a 2 hour and 38 minute movie why do you expect this to be accurate
Napoleon needed 2 things to be better:
1: Needed to be a series
2: Needed to not be written and directed by a brit
Owari Da
This looks great but why is it only 2 minutes long
Cause its a free clip of movie that wants to YOU to make PAY and make its budget back
complete poppycock, but looks awesome ha ha ha
Boy, this movie will sck hard. 0 historical accuracy, and it is about Napoleon, the holy grail for history nerds.
А зачем французам накрывать маскировкой пушки при преследовании австрийских войск?