How Far Did it Fly?! HappyModel Mobula7 1s Whoop ExpressLRS

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @auck1969
    @auck1969 2 года назад +7

    That really was insanely far. Wow! Always love your content my friend. You're one of the few that inspired me to get into the hobby. Have a great day!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      You too, thank you for sharing that! Really inspires me to keep making content.

  • @cruisinginacro
    @cruisinginacro 2 года назад +5

    It's a super quad for sure man..And this has such clear video feed on goggles.Enjoy this so much!

  • @PERTHWESTOZRC
    @PERTHWESTOZRC 2 года назад +2

    Great video as always John, that was some crazy range for sure from that M7 whoop 👍

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      Very! I cannot believe how far this little drone can go. The tech we have now is pretty amazing.

  • @libmananchannel
    @libmananchannel 2 года назад

    Hello John Cuppi! it's amazing! Thanks for the very nice video! I saw it with great interest! Super shot! Great! Have a nice day!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      Thank you! Have a great day too!

  • @TorontoFPV
    @TorontoFPV 2 года назад

    did not see this till now nice work buddy boy!

  • @RDsRCReviews
    @RDsRCReviews 2 года назад +1

    That fpv and even control range is insane for a whoop. Was it 1.45 miles? It was difficult to see on my phone. Awesome video John!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +3

      It was. Thanks for checking it out.

  • @ADKDronesRC
    @ADKDronesRC 2 года назад

    Great video as always! I’ve yet to fly mine but this makes me want to get out out and get at it !

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      Send itttt 🤘

    • @ADKDronesRC
      @ADKDronesRC 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi soon as this heat breaks I plan to get it out. Been over 100 for the last 3 weeks here plus 100% humidity it’s brutal and to hot for the gear and me lol!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      @@ADKDronesRC it was hot the morning we did this review too, but had to get it done!

  • @tamburavadak
    @tamburavadak Год назад

    That was a close call with the King Air. Good thing you had a spotter.

  • @IdahoQuadcopter
    @IdahoQuadcopter Год назад

    Wow! Great range! Express LRs rocks! 😀

  • @gregorydahl
    @gregorydahl Год назад

    You were in the truck until the battery died for mileage range or ,radio control range in distance ? With what a video reciever triod or what i wondered .

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      Huh? No, I was not in the truck.

  • @sullytrny
    @sullytrny Год назад

    I've got the original and I've got to walksnail one and there's 1 error on the manufacturer's website that tells you to put Lua script 2 you don't need louis version v2 I have 2 modules 1 with version 2.5 and one version 3 THE version 3 Lua works with both of them V2.5 AND V3.2

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      Correct, the Lua script is backwards compatible with 2.x 👍

  • @gbro8822
    @gbro8822 2 года назад

    Wow, that was nuts. Thank you brother.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      It was! So much range on these quads now, it will never be an issue. Thanks buddy.

  • @Jmagdiel69
    @Jmagdiel69 10 месяцев назад

    Nice test 👍🏻 I want to know how I change my vtx power, I have this same whoop, but vtx range is horrible the goggles transmition video cut when I’m Behind my home

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  9 месяцев назад

      Should be able to change it in betaflight under vtx settings, sorry for the late reply.

  • @slowentropy4531
    @slowentropy4531 2 года назад +1

    Dang!!!! I love my mob7 with just Frsky D8, must be amazing on ERLS!!!!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +2

      At 250hz control link speed, it makes the whoops feel much more snappy. I’ll fly my D8 hardware until it dies, but anything new is going to be ELRS.

    • @slowentropy4531
      @slowentropy4531 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi Yeah I wish I could get a module and figure it out. Maybe one mate,

  • @Cuisinenomade1
    @Cuisinenomade1 Год назад

    Another good one. There's something i dont fully understand yet, what is the relationship between hz and mw. I know the hz refers to the packet rates and the mw to the output power of the tx but how do they work together?, there is also tx power output and the rx power output, is there a tx and rx Hz meassure as well? And what is a good combo for having low latency yet decent range, for a whoop of this kind of course. Thanks again.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      There’s no _direct_ relation between packet data transfer rate (hz) and output power.
      A higher output power will have a further reach and increase penetration overall, however, the packet rate DOES come into play in furthering your distance regardless of output power.
      Think of your radio link range like a straw that starts with a very huge opening, and then keeps narrowing until it reaches the very end. Your data demands fit into this straw easily close by, but as you leave the location, and the straw becomes more narrow, eventually it reaches the point that your data packet transfer demand is too high to fit in the end of the narrowed straw. Once your data demand cannot fit, packets don’t make it to the destination, link quality suffers, and you lose connection.
      If I redid this test with 150hz I could achieve a farther distance but I’d outrun my battery life.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      For having a decent range and control link feel, I’d say 250hz is the sweet spot for packet rate if you’re doing freestyle. That’s what I run for everything, whether it’s a whoop or not. Have not felt 500hz and up is necessary.

    • @Cuisinenomade1
      @Cuisinenomade1 Год назад

      @@JohnCuppi and 250 Hz at 400mw like on this video? Thanks a lot! That makes things clearer.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +2

      @@Cuisinenomade1 noooo… 400mw in this video refers to the video transmission out power power. That’s totally different.
      If you’re flying by yourself, ALWAYS max out the video transmission output power.
      ELRS has an output power too. I flew ELRS here at 200mw on my module on 2.4G hz, and 400mw video link at 5.8ghz.
      ELRS can do up to 1000mw, but it is honestly overkill and is a serious drain on battery life. I usually fly ELRS freestyle at no more than 50mw, a little power goes a long way with ELRS. Not so much for video.

    • @Cuisinenomade1
      @Cuisinenomade1 Год назад

      @@JohnCuppi oh, I see now, that was my confusion, i did not know there was mw for video and for the module, I thought it was just one and thus my confusion thanks again!

  • @karldunn1464
    @karldunn1464 2 года назад +1

    What was the range according to the trucks odometer?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +3

      We didn’t look at that, but I have a Google maps reference and measurement for the area in the spot that the drone went down, it's in the range test chapter of this video.

  • @isell7547
    @isell7547 2 года назад

    Hi John great vid!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      Thank you much appreciated!

  • @MikeRM399
    @MikeRM399 2 месяца назад

    That was such a great range test, how did you set up the video transmitter output at 400mw ? Or it comes with ,or its put its automatic ? Thanks

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 месяца назад +1

      Flight controller comes with it - I set it up in betaflight 😎👍

  • @BMFPV
    @BMFPV 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for this, I was wondering when someone would properly range test this. Insane distance for a whoop! And I was chuffed flying a mile with my Explorer Lr4 lol 👍Subbed!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +2

      Subbed you too! Always looking to support other channels in FPV. Thank you sir.

    • @BMFPV
      @BMFPV 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi Thanks a lot!👍

  • @chrismillersrcfamily
    @chrismillersrcfamily 2 года назад

    Awesome range test and quad.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      👍😎 Hell yeah.

  • @bugsy742
    @bugsy742 2 года назад

    Absolutely OUTSTANDING mate 😃👍🤜🏻🤛🏻

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the support! 😎

    • @bugsy742
      @bugsy742 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi I really enjoyed it, I think my mind is now made up as to what whoop I’m going to get 😃👍🤝

  • @shogunemperor
    @shogunemperor 2 года назад +1

    Nice one bruddah! And daaaamn... that went further than mine! Were u on 250hz?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      Yes, the ‘6’ in 6:100 is for 250hz. 😎🤘 thanks man!

    • @shogunemperor
      @shogunemperor 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi sweet bruh. I got about 700m on 500Hz for mine. It literally is doubled.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      ​@@shogunemperor If I could run 500hz I might, but I can't since I'm on tango2. I tried 500hz recently on my Taranis X9D+ and I cannot really 'feel' the difference -- probably too slow, lol! I'll probably just stick with 250hz.

    • @shogunemperor
      @shogunemperor 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi oooooohhhh... I see what u mean. Well, on 500Hz the movements are quite literal to your hands. But the range is much shorter... I'd do 250Hz... but i seldom fly far. Awesome video bruh

  • @Cuisinenomade1
    @Cuisinenomade1 Год назад

    Hello sensei! I have a question, how can increase my video range/ quality on a spi receiver and open vtx? Thanks!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      SPI range = lower the packet rate / hz, and increase output power of the module.
      Video range = max out the vtx output power. Make sure you’re using a linear patch antenna on your goggles like I do. I recommend the MenaceRC viper patch.

    • @Cuisinenomade1
      @Cuisinenomade1 Год назад

      @@JohnCuppi got it. I also found that that i need to find a preset for RC link in betaflight and set the band and channel manually and I was using the "auto search" and had no ideo of the presets. Thanks!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      @@Cuisinenomade1 Correct, the right ELRS preset should be setup, though that is more to do with the flight feel / tune than range. And yes, always select band/ch manually on your goggle receiver -- the auto band scan unfortunately often doesn't work well.

  • @mr.j-rcs822
    @mr.j-rcs822 2 года назад

    Great review... Wtg Coop!

  • @marinebymistake
    @marinebymistake Год назад

    Would you recommend Mobula7 or Meteor65/75 for the first mostly indoors drone?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      My personal preference for indoors is the 65mm size, Happymodel Mobula6 is my favorite indoors. The meteor65 would also be fine.

    • @marinebymistake
      @marinebymistake Год назад

      @@JohnCuppi got it, thank you

  • @MrKyle700
    @MrKyle700 Год назад

    Could you have made it farther using 50hz packet rate on elrs? its still perfectly flyable for a whoop. seems like you were on like 250hz maybe? cant remember what 7 is. awesome video. I need to get some better antennas, my shitty box goggles cant make it nearly this damn far

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      yes, even 150hz would have increased the range significantly.

  • @javes2477
    @javes2477 Год назад

    would you recommend this mobula as for starters? and what fpv goggles a budget one would you recommend and paired with controller? thank you very much for the help

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      Yes, this mobula is excellent for starters. I still recommend the Eachine EV800DM box goggles as a budget pair. ruclips.net/video/_Pi0815ZR0o/видео.html

  • @xORLOCKx
    @xORLOCKx 2 года назад

    What VTX channel where you using on this? Is the power output the same on all the channels?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      Raceband 1. Sorry, I don’t know if the power output is the same for all of them or how much it varies.

  • @neut8269
    @neut8269 2 года назад

    Wonderful! Would you mind dropping your DIFFALL in the info? Wouldnt mind seeing how you tune that badboy!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +2

      It’s all stock I only added my rates :)

  • @SPIT_FPV
    @SPIT_FPV 2 года назад

    Did the ELRS signal lost before the VTX signal on 400mW? Which is the bottleneck?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +2

      ELRS was the bottleneck. Around 1:30 onward you can see the LQ getting really bad and RXLOSS messages start to flash. But video is fine, although video was getting scratchy here and there as well as the trees were approached, in the end you can see “RXLOSS” and the quad goes down.

  • @whtewolf8041
    @whtewolf8041 2 года назад +1

    have a good day flying.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      I will, thanks for checking it out!

  • @roylim1570
    @roylim1570 2 года назад

    Hi! Is this the ELRS v2.0 SPI version of the mobula 7?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      Yes this came with 2.0 but I upgraded it to 3.0

  • @capitaineyoyo3076
    @capitaineyoyo3076 Год назад

    For the module 7 how much Mah can the battery have before it breaks?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      Not sure what you mean.

    • @capitaineyoyo3076
      @capitaineyoyo3076 Год назад

      I meant,is there a limit to the battery that the module 7 can handle before it breaks. Cause i have one, and it broke when I used new batteries

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      @@capitaineyoyo3076 Yes, it only takes 1S batteries.

  • @ilikebananasFPV
    @ilikebananasFPV Год назад

    Nice video, subbed!
    How important would you say are your googles in this setup, considering range? Ich have a cetus x kit and thinking about upgrading the drone but keeping the betafpv googles

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      Antennas are the most important. To achieve this, if you notice the white square-like antenna on my goggles -- that's called a patch antenna. It's a linear patch antenna which mean it's directional, it has a narrow but far reception beam to capture signal. The patch is called the MenaceRC bandicoot.
      Second, goggle receiver is definitely important as well. Even if you replace the antennas on the betafpv goggle, you may still not achieve this range, a variety of factors go into the sensitivity and quality of a receiver itself.
      On the cetus x kit, I notice the antenna for the goggle is off to the side. Are you able to unscrew that antenna or is it set in there? It would not hurt to try buying a patch antenna and installing it if it can be easily unscrewed/removed, just keep in mind that patch antennas are very directional, flying behind yourself you'll lose video.

    • @ilikebananasFPV
      @ilikebananasFPV Год назад

      @@JohnCuppi thanks for the reply! i did some more research after writing the inital comment. the antennas on the betafpv googles are replaceable and i´ll propably go for some rp-sma circular antenna at first. i have no big intrest in flying far away - i´m happy with a 250m radius, mostly flying in parks and around playgrounds atm. atm i start to get heavy distortion when i´m like 100m away with some obstacles inbetween. i did an open field test today and was able to get around 500m with clear sight before heading back because my battery was at about 50%
      . i just invested some money in a mobula7 and the next upgrade will probably be some better goggles where i can attach 2 antennas and maybe a rapidfire modul afterwards. pretty happy with the erls controller, i don´t see a reason to upgrade it in the near future

  • @ChrisQuadFPV
    @ChrisQuadFPV 2 года назад +3

    3.30volts I have plenty of fly time left 😃

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +5

      Yes, but I call it at that point since I don’t want to damage the battery. Plus you do start to feel a big performance loss once it’s dipping there.

  • @ibjet
    @ibjet 11 месяцев назад

    I didn't see what the distance was on your range check. I'm sure I won't fly that far, but what was is it?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  11 месяцев назад +1

      1.45 miles / 2.33 km

    • @ibjet
      @ibjet 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks John! I just got my Mobula 7 last night. I was shocked how tiny it is! Question: My city (Kingman, AZ) is so windy, do you think I can master doing flips with the Mobula 7 indoors? I have a large living/dinning room with vaulted ceilings.

  • @BisayaPan
    @BisayaPan Год назад

    What remote controls are you using?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      Tango 2 + ExpressLRS 2.4ghz.

  • @adeyinkabrasil4426
    @adeyinkabrasil4426 2 года назад +2

    The only limiting factor should have been the battery life. Unless the RX had a ceramic antenna, at 250mw, the LQ should have remained high until the battery died. Nevertheless, thanks for posting the experiment and well done!

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +6

      This model has a ceramic antenna, so that was certainly a limiting factor.

  • @pacospete4299
    @pacospete4299 2 года назад

    forgive me if i missed it but does this whoop have any type of lost drone alarm or beeper ???

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      No physical beeper on these or any other small whoop, it’s just too big and heavy to include. However you can configure the motors to beep! They can even be made to sing! I made a video on the singing here: ruclips.net/video/7HfyztXcnP0/видео.html but anyway, the downside to the motor beeps is that they are not actually very loud at all. Much harder to hear than a full size proper buzzer but also better than nothing.

    • @modquad18
      @modquad18 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnCuppi My v2 Mob 7 has a really loud external beeper. Bummer that this one does not 😫

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      @@modquad18 Really? Weird mine never did.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      @@modquad18 I should have been more clear also before making blanketing strong statements like “it’s too heavy to include.” You definitely can install a full size buzzer to a 65/75 whoop. And some of the ones I’ve flown in the last long ago did include one, but due to performance reasons manufacturers have by and large stopped including them on most new releases today. The board has buzzer pads though for anyone who wants to go ahead and add one!

    • @modquad18
      @modquad18 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi Yes, and it’s by far the loudest I’ve ever heard. I install beepers on all my quads (that don’t include them), a must for me because I grow feed hay and it’s 4 feet tall at times.

  • @raymondblanchard2213
    @raymondblanchard2213 Год назад

    Are you running completely stock? Any gyroflow settings used?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      This is stock settings and - no gyroflow used for this.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +1

      This is also the non-HD version of the mobula7 1s, it's analog only, there's no gyroflow data from the camera to be had. The HD version is also ELRS, so you will get the same range, but the flight time will be a lot less than this.

  • @vincentromanban3630
    @vincentromanban3630 2 года назад

    Can this handle a 2s battery?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      X12 5-IN-1 AIO flight controller on this can take 2s input, but the motors are specced for 1s. Don’t fly on 2s unless you know how to limit the motor rpm output.

  • @AtlanticAerials
    @AtlanticAerials 2 года назад

    What a fun video Cuppi. Say hi to Patrick for me

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      I’ll let @1eyeinthesky know! Thanks Matt!

    • @AtlanticAerials
      @AtlanticAerials 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi You're welcome buddy

  • @stelic9515
    @stelic9515 2 года назад

    I have mobula7 1s elrs and yes it have a good range and video

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      It has quickly become one of my favorites. Thanks!

  • @modquad18
    @modquad18 2 года назад

    Impressive! Love my Mob7 v2 except for the mediocre cam. 2 questions:
    Will this one run on 2s?
    Have noticed a few guys run with their vtx antennas bent at 90 deg like yours. Is there an advantage to that, or did it just get bent over in a crash? (I have always straightened mine out if that ever happens).

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +2

      No advantage at all, it just got bent in a previous crash. I fixed it in my preflight check before I took off for the distance test. As for 2s, it’s not advertised to run 2s and the motors are high kv (0802 20,000kv) honestly for it. May work ok with an rpm limit of sorts. The X12 5-IN-1 AIO does take 1S-2S input though, so it wont blow the board up to plug a 2s in.
      But there is no 2s battery that will fit the stock frame either so that would be another thing to address. I remember the original mobula7 v1 from 3 years ago came with a 3d printed holder to stack 2 of the 1s batteries I’m using in this video together. But that mobula7 also had 2x PH 2.0 connectors as well, this just has the one.

    • @modquad18
      @modquad18 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnCuppi Thanks John, appreciate your reply! Good to know the FC supports 2s. The v2 has 16,000 kv and is a blast on 2s. Think I’m going to get this one and will use scaling if necessary. These things handle wind surprisingly well, which I need as I live on a hilltop farm in Mo and it’s almost always windy. Thanks again 🙏🏼

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      @@modquad18 I also live in Missouri, where around are you at?

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +1

      @@modquad18 BTW I agree the camera is mediocre in picture quality but the size/weight/picture is currently unmatched as far as I know.
      It seems that for the last 3 years we have hit a wall in micro analog cameras. This is the same camera happymodel has been using since the introduction of the mobula6 in 2019, I think? The caddx ant lite at 1200TVL would be a great replacement but the trade off is added weight.
      I have been wanting to see a camera with the same size/weight as the caddx ant 1200tvl shrunk down to the same size/weight, but it just hasn’t happened… I want to think it will eventually.

    • @modquad18
      @modquad18 2 года назад

      @@JohnCuppi I’m NE in Pike Co. Near Bowling Green

  • @MrSmithFPV
    @MrSmithFPV 2 года назад +1

    Really cool test. I think the limitation in this case was the bad ELRS signal that's only running on 2.4g. With CRSF you could go further.

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад +2

      The antenna was the ceramic one, so that played the factor in the limited range - but I could have also dropped the packet rate to a slower speed and it would have drastically increased my range as well. I tested it on 250hz just to see what would happen, and the results were pretty awesome. Thanks for watching.

  • @RickJamesFPV
    @RickJamesFPV Год назад

    👍

  • @johnnymac26
    @johnnymac26 2 года назад +1

    subbed,,

  • @ericflighttester7145
    @ericflighttester7145 2 года назад

    Excellent testing 👍 thank you for your feedback on my channel. I am following you advise and I hope that I can benefit from your experience in the future 🙂

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      Thank you! I subscribed to you and will await your next video. :)

  • @jasonleesuffolk
    @jasonleesuffolk Год назад

    I got a mosquito net

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад

      What ?

    • @jasonleesuffolk
      @jasonleesuffolk Год назад

      @@JohnCuppi to keep the bugs off me when I'm flying 😆👍

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  Год назад +2

      @@jasonleesuffolk oh lol I assume in this video bugs were getting at me or something? Sorry I don’t remember since I made this over a year ago, and seeing “I got a mosquito net” looked so random, Lol! 😆

    • @jasonleesuffolk
      @jasonleesuffolk Год назад

      @JohnCuppi random it was 😆 yeah you mentioned the bugs,they do get annoying sometimes

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps 2 года назад

    long way - at least to walk

    • @JohnCuppi
      @JohnCuppi  2 года назад

      And that’s why I have awesome friends to help me out with these crazy tests. Thanks for checking it out!