Please come up with a great solution. I have seen to many times on this channel where you have made a simple, but effective solution to many problems. Thanks for all your efforts.
Please continue to work this problem. You might want to test a few others options out there. Also, I found tuning the parameters for filament tends to help too. I think this was one of your best.
The Scrubbler is the best one overall. I tried all of those and hated them long term. It has been updated a few times since I originally downloaded it, but the basic premise is it uses the A1 wiper combined with the Stock wiper for the benefits of both. I have well over 5000 hours across two printers on that and never have poops in my chamber. (Being fair I use stock hardened nozzles). I just updated to the newest version when I did my recent full tear down maintenance and so far performance seems just as good. As a note it is important to CA glue the A1 wiper to the newer version. However this is balanced out by the fact that the piece that is attached too is significantly smaller and it prints several so you just replace that entire piece when the teeth start tearing off. I do nothing but multi color printing and just recently finished a batch of 220 pieces that had 10 filament changes each with no poops or little bits of crap all over the chamber. The only issue I had from the start was the edge of the piece that the A1 wiper sits on was a little thicker than it needed be and would Z axis error out some of my non OEM print plates. A few moments with a sander on the offending corner resolved that entirely.
Yeah, it's a pain but I ended up using an actual brass brush from a Dremmel attachemt . Contrary to what you might think, it doesn't tear up the silicone boot or the nozzle. I think Voron's use the same idea. There are several out there for the Bambu. The clean like nothing else and they're super cheap.
I spent 5 years modifying printers to get nice prints. I bought the x1c to use and not to modify. After more than 5000 hours of printing on three different, completely stock x1c’s, with a wide array of filaments, I can say there is no need to modify anything. People will tell you that you need this shiny new part to improve something. If you enjoy tinkering then do it. Just know that the hardware this printer comes with is fine. Learn how to use your slicer and find something else that actually needs fixing.
A big help for your "sticks to the nozzle" issue is the slice engineering plastic repellent paint. It needs to be applied regularly, but minimizes sticking a lot
On my P1S I’ve been a big fan of a model on MW called the Scrubbler. It uses the silicone waffle for cleaning, but also retains the original spring wiper offset to the left so that it still “cuts” and flings away the poop before going to wipe on the waffle. It also has an inset for the waffle and recommends CA glue for installation to keep it from being knocked loose. If you decide to check it out I’d take a look at the different remixes, because I remember some of them aren’t lidar compatible.
Hi, fellow P1S owner. Just got mine three days ago, and was hoping you could answer a question for me: Is the nozzle supposed to tap against the print bed during bed levelling? I thought LIDAR was supposed to be doing this. I don't see anything inside the enclosure that looks like a LIDAR unit, so I don't know what's going on. Also, I can't find any info at the Bambu site as to how this is all supposed to operate.
@ lidar is an x1c exclusive feature, the p1s doesn’t have it. The p1s uses the nozzle taps and a load cell to map the bed for leveling, so yes, that’s totally normal
@@justinu1182 Thank you for this! Everywhere I looked told me my P1S had lidar, which flew in the face of what I was observing it do during bed levelling. And, I couldn't see a lidar unit anywhere inside the printer. Do you know if it's using the same nozzle 'tap' for calculating a z-offset? Sucks, if so, since I've seen taps happening when there's old filament stuck on the tip of the nozzle.
I had so many problems with the stock wiper for every single print i was there with tweezers toi clean it up before it started a print so i made a mix between "The Nozzle Wiper 3.2/3.3" by Maleko the "Better Wipe for Bambu Lab X1C, P1P, P1S" by Brenyo and "The Scrubber: Enhanced X1/P1 Nozzle Wiper" by Adam L with it's custom G code which mimics the A1 series back and forth wiping motion after final steel plate arc rub movement which results in a perfectly clean nozzle every single time
I use that last design and it's been dramatically better than the stock wiper. I've super Glued mine down and haven't had an issue and I've been running it for about a year now
I last night printed a brush holder. Takes a dremel brass brush to help clean the nozzle. Not yet sure if it works better. It does clear the build plate although barely. It’s so close lol. I’ve used a brass brush to clean the nozzle when heated. So I have hopes for this working. If it doesn’t do the tiny bits like you experienced
Slice engineering' anti plastic paint and an occasional brass brush helps a ton for maintenance of the nozzle. I also had perfect results with The Wiper 3.3 with a panda revo nozzle and panda jet and petg, but my print came out way cleaner than yours, did you use the PLA supports version? Made the surface for the A1 wiper pad much cleaner and adhere better.
Personally, most of these nozzle wipers do work way better than OEM. However, they are not perfect. I find with the A1 nozzle wiper in combination with the OEM scraper work well but fails at times. The ultimate nozzle will be next to try. There is also a modification of that model that uses the PTFE tube and OEM wiper as well.
I've been using the wiper from "N302OO7" on Makerworld for roughly a year now and it works really well (also with PETG). It's basically a two-part design where you print a holder and a mold and then have to pour liquid 2k high-temp silicone yourself. The wiper itself has four "lips" and besides the occasional little bits I've not had a big poop on my build plate since I installed that wiper.
Could you help root my Creality K1? I followed your guide step-by-step and did all the installation, but I cannot remotely access it the way you did. I tried typing the ip address followed by 4409, but nothing happens. And if i just do the ip it gives me the basic creality print UI. I also cant figure out what my device UI is (for connecting to OrcaSlicer) as it doesn't show anywhere. Could you please help?
I've been using the Ultimate Nozzle Wiper V1 with no problems for months. It's great. The problem is, I have so much extra silicone tube I don't know what to do with, just like you mentioned with the V2.
The only one that worked for me was the one where you insert a piece of silicon. I modified it a bit to have a wider and deeper place for the silicone piece. Then instead of putting the recommended silicon, I cut a piece from my soldering silicone mat (this beats everything else I tried), glued it in the printed model and since then I didn't have any issue with PETG sticking to the nozzle. They do stick to the side of the wiper at times, but they fall off when they accumulate.
It would be great to see your own take on it, I have yet to find a solution that is anything but a marginal improvement over the stock solution on the P1S.
I use one that keeps the stock wiper in place AND uses the A1 wiper at the same time side by side. Ive actually never had a poopy bed. Though on occasion it sticks to the chute and the X1C gets constipated.
Slice Engineering has a Plastic Repellent Paint you can coat your Nozzle with that may solve the sticking Problem - I couldn't find any information if it is supposed to work with PETG but someone on their Reviews mentioned it working with Bambu Lab PETG Basic soo?
I was about to ask about this. I bought some of it by have never used it, since I don’t have a problem with PLA. I’d like to use PETG though, so maybe I’ll try it. I’d really like to see this channel test it with PETG!
I believe there's also an option that retains the factory wiper while adding the a1 style, I wonder if that impacts the debris issue. Also, if all else fails trianglelabs does make an 'anti stick' sort of paint/nail polish that seems to work.
Have you tried Slice Engineering Plastic repellant paint? It's what I saw recommended by another youtuber for petg sticking and has been amazing on my K1C.
Slice engineering has a ptfe coating for nozzles. This should prevent the filament from sticking. Unfortunately it's not very accessible in Europe so i don't know how good it really is.
I am also using the silicone tube one, and also got some of the small bits as you do, but they are not thrown as far around as yours. If you got more tube (wink wink), try cutting a bit off so the silicone gets less force to throw the small pieces around.
I've had a lot of success with the anti plastic paint. Still need to brush it a little after every couple prints and reapply the paint like once a month. A better wiper tho is still a good idea for actual success detaching it from the nozzle hole.
At work I have 4 x1c in my competence and like every second print won't start because the poop gets launched into the leadscrew. Kinda annoying when you have to print alot and fast.
I printed out another wiper using a small piece of the A1 wiper, I don’t know if it actually works, so I’ve printed out the Wiper V3.2 in ABS (for my P1S), but I haven’t had a chance to install it since I’ve been printing Christmas presents lol… I might as well print out 3.3 before I install it lol
I would like to see it solved even if it requires a g code change as this has been frustrating for me and I tend to avoid PETG over it. I currently use one someone made that uses a piece of silicone mat that has helped but it hasn't been enough
Interesting, i basically have no problems at all printed; ABS, PETG and PLA on stock P1S. Once in a while i find a poop fell down but 90% of the time only 1 poop. ESun and Bambulab filament.
Please come up with a great solution. I have seen to many times on this channel where you have made a simple, but effective solution to many problems. Thanks for all your efforts.
‘I like to leave things as stock as possible’… whilst changing the hot end. Lol
offcourse solve it complety :D
Please continue to work this problem. You might want to test a few others options out there. Also, I found tuning the parameters for filament tends to help too. I think this was one of your best.
The Scrubbler is the best one overall. I tried all of those and hated them long term. It has been updated a few times since I originally downloaded it, but the basic premise is it uses the A1 wiper combined with the Stock wiper for the benefits of both. I have well over 5000 hours across two printers on that and never have poops in my chamber. (Being fair I use stock hardened nozzles). I just updated to the newest version when I did my recent full tear down maintenance and so far performance seems just as good. As a note it is important to CA glue the A1 wiper to the newer version. However this is balanced out by the fact that the piece that is attached too is significantly smaller and it prints several so you just replace that entire piece when the teeth start tearing off. I do nothing but multi color printing and just recently finished a batch of 220 pieces that had 10 filament changes each with no poops or little bits of crap all over the chamber. The only issue I had from the start was the edge of the piece that the A1 wiper sits on was a little thicker than it needed be and would Z axis error out some of my non OEM print plates. A few moments with a sander on the offending corner resolved that entirely.
Is this with PETG or PLA? Sounds encouraging…
Have been using the scrubbler for 600 hrs or so and i am quite happy woth it
@@DaveEtchells I print with both and more rarely ABS. I haven't had trouble with any of them.
@@OmegaGamingNetwork Thanks for the info!
Yeah, it's a pain but I ended up using an actual brass brush from a Dremmel attachemt . Contrary to what you might think, it doesn't tear up the silicone boot or the nozzle. I think Voron's use the same idea. There are several out there for the Bambu. The clean like nothing else and they're super cheap.
I spent 5 years modifying printers to get nice prints. I bought the x1c to use and not to modify. After more than 5000 hours of printing on three different, completely stock x1c’s, with a wide array of filaments, I can say there is no need to modify anything. People will tell you that you need this shiny new part to improve something. If you enjoy tinkering then do it. Just know that the hardware this printer comes with is fine. Learn how to use your slicer and find something else that actually needs fixing.
A big help for your "sticks to the nozzle" issue is the slice engineering plastic repellent paint. It needs to be applied regularly, but minimizes sticking a lot
I have had good results with this as well. Much better to stop the filament sticking in the first place than to try and wipe it off afterwards.
On my P1S I’ve been a big fan of a model on MW called the Scrubbler. It uses the silicone waffle for cleaning, but also retains the original spring wiper offset to the left so that it still “cuts” and flings away the poop before going to wipe on the waffle. It also has an inset for the waffle and recommends CA glue for installation to keep it from being knocked loose. If you decide to check it out I’d take a look at the different remixes, because I remember some of them aren’t lidar compatible.
Hi, fellow P1S owner. Just got mine three days ago, and was hoping you could answer a question for me: Is the nozzle supposed to tap against the print bed during bed levelling? I thought LIDAR was supposed to be doing this. I don't see anything inside the enclosure that looks like a LIDAR unit, so I don't know what's going on. Also, I can't find any info at the Bambu site as to how this is all supposed to operate.
@ lidar is an x1c exclusive feature, the p1s doesn’t have it. The p1s uses the nozzle taps and a load cell to map the bed for leveling, so yes, that’s totally normal
@@justinu1182 Thank you for this! Everywhere I looked told me my P1S had lidar, which flew in the face of what I was observing it do during bed levelling. And, I couldn't see a lidar unit anywhere inside the printer.
Do you know if it's using the same nozzle 'tap' for calculating a z-offset? Sucks, if so, since I've seen taps happening when there's old filament stuck on the tip of the nozzle.
I use a high temp silicone grease on my nozzle. Helps out quite a bit.
very useful as I was just about to print one of these. I had decided for the one you picked. Thanks !
I had so many problems with the stock wiper for every single print i was there with tweezers toi clean it up before it started a print so i made a mix between "The Nozzle Wiper 3.2/3.3" by Maleko the "Better Wipe for Bambu Lab X1C, P1P, P1S" by Brenyo and "The Scrubber: Enhanced X1/P1 Nozzle Wiper" by Adam L with it's custom G code which mimics the A1 series back and forth wiping motion after final steel plate arc rub movement which results in a perfectly clean nozzle every single time
I use that last design and it's been dramatically better than the stock wiper. I've super Glued mine down and haven't had an issue and I've been running it for about a year now
I last night printed a brush holder. Takes a dremel brass brush to help clean the nozzle. Not yet sure if it works better. It does clear the build plate although barely. It’s so close lol. I’ve used a brass brush to clean the nozzle when heated. So I have hopes for this working. If it doesn’t do the tiny bits like you experienced
Typo in the video title.
Slice engineering' anti plastic paint and an occasional brass brush helps a ton for maintenance of the nozzle. I also had perfect results with The Wiper 3.3 with a panda revo nozzle and panda jet and petg, but my print came out way cleaner than yours, did you use the PLA supports version? Made the surface for the A1 wiper pad much cleaner and adhere better.
Personally, most of these nozzle wipers do work way better than OEM. However, they are not perfect. I find with the A1 nozzle wiper in combination with the OEM scraper work well but fails at times. The ultimate nozzle will be next to try. There is also a modification of that model that uses the PTFE tube and OEM wiper as well.
using the v2 since 4 months, great one,
I've been using the wiper from "N302OO7" on Makerworld for roughly a year now and it works really well (also with PETG). It's basically a two-part design where you print a holder and a mold and then have to pour liquid 2k high-temp silicone yourself.
The wiper itself has four "lips" and besides the occasional little bits I've not had a big poop on my build plate since I installed that wiper.
Could you help root my Creality K1? I followed your guide step-by-step and did all the installation, but I cannot remotely access it the way you did. I tried typing the ip address followed by 4409, but nothing happens. And if i just do the ip it gives me the basic creality print UI. I also cant figure out what my device UI is (for connecting to OrcaSlicer) as it doesn't show anywhere. Could you please help?
I've been using the Ultimate Nozzle Wiper V1 with no problems for months. It's great. The problem is, I have so much extra silicone tube I don't know what to do with, just like you mentioned with the V2.
The only one that worked for me was the one where you insert a piece of silicon. I modified it a bit to have a wider and deeper place for the silicone piece. Then instead of putting the recommended silicon, I cut a piece from my soldering silicone mat (this beats everything else I tried), glued it in the printed model and since then I didn't have any issue with PETG sticking to the nozzle. They do stick to the side of the wiper at times, but they fall off when they accumulate.
It would be great to see your own take on it, I have yet to find a solution that is anything but a marginal improvement over the stock solution on the P1S.
Have you used the plastic repellent paint on liquid before?
I use one that keeps the stock wiper in place AND uses the A1 wiper at the same time side by side. Ive actually never had a poopy bed. Though on occasion it sticks to the chute and the X1C gets constipated.
I would love to see your own solution. I have faith!
Slice Engineering has a Plastic Repellent Paint you can coat your Nozzle with that may solve the sticking Problem - I couldn't find any information if it is supposed to work with PETG but someone on their Reviews mentioned it working with Bambu Lab PETG Basic soo?
I was about to ask about this. I bought some of it by have never used it, since I don’t have a problem with PLA. I’d like to use PETG though, so maybe I’ll try it.
I’d really like to see this channel test it with PETG!
I believe there's also an option that retains the factory wiper while adding the a1 style, I wonder if that impacts the debris issue. Also, if all else fails trianglelabs does make an 'anti stick' sort of paint/nail polish that seems to work.
Have you tried Slice Engineering Plastic repellant paint? It's what I saw recommended by another youtuber for petg sticking and has been amazing on my K1C.
I have made one with the slicone tubing but much smaller tubing, it works OK! but I found the A1 wiper conversion the better option.
Slice engineering has a ptfe coating for nozzles. This should prevent the filament from sticking. Unfortunately it's not very accessible in Europe so i don't know how good it really is.
I would recommend using a brass bristle brush to clean the nozzle.
I am also using the silicone tube one, and also got some of the small bits as you do, but they are not thrown as far around as yours. If you got more tube (wink wink), try cutting a bit off so the silicone gets less force to throw the small pieces around.
Czy Twoim zdaniem wymiana dyszy na E3D poprawia jakość druku na tyle, że wart zapłacić za nią 60GBP?
Looks like there are few more designs to try. Models 52527 and 467118 on MW, 613245 on Printables.
I'm curious if the Slice Engineering plasticrepellentt paint would help mitigate this issue with no upgrades needed for the wiper.
I've had a lot of success with the anti plastic paint. Still need to brush it a little after every couple prints and reapply the paint like once a month. A better wiper tho is still a good idea for actual success detaching it from the nozzle hole.
At work I have 4 x1c in my competence and like every second print won't start because the poop gets launched into the leadscrew. Kinda annoying when you have to print alot and fast.
I printed out another wiper using a small piece of the A1 wiper, I don’t know if it actually works, so I’ve printed out the Wiper V3.2 in ABS (for my P1S), but I haven’t had a chance to install it since I’ve been printing Christmas presents lol… I might as well print out 3.3 before I install it lol
Solve it! Solve it!!!
Yay finally a channel that pronounces it PET-G and not P-E-T-G. I mean if you can RADAR or J-PEG or GIF then you can PET-G.
I would appreciate if you could attempt a new design using the A1 wiper as the functional component. 👍😎👍
I would like to see it solved even if it requires a g code change as this has been frustrating for me and I tend to avoid PETG over it. I currently use one someone made that uses a piece of silicone mat that has helped but it hasn't been enough
I was with you until you said Lucky Charms. Frosted Flakes Forever. 😂
Let’s see what u got. Get er done
I would like to see your take on it
Interesting, i basically have no problems at all printed; ABS, PETG and PLA on stock P1S. Once in a while i find a poop fell down but 90% of the time only 1 poop.
ESun and Bambulab filament.
Weird idea of using ptfe tube as wiper: they melt just above 250c and create pretty nasty fumes
And you're definitely better off supergluing the A1 wiper to the Makelo
Is like to see you test Slice Engineering plastic repellant paint.
It’s works, If you want to reapply every time.
Go for it would be good to have the issue solved
better idea, print in single color with custom gcode, currently have zero purge and save about 2 minutes with each print
My wiper is the best....Printables "Abstreifer"....do you want one to test, let me know!
Please do a review on this!
Is it the model 613245?
@@woodcat7180 Yes....👍
@@woodcat7180Yes...
Need better solutions than this, i have tried all went back to stock.
The build plate hits wiper v3.2 and it doesn't wipe well either 👎