For the extra the p1s is a better buy if you can afford it. The enclosure is nice, gives you a wider variety of filament choices and helps reduce the sound a bit. Plus if you have the ams it allows you to stack it on top and thus frees up desk space for another printer 😂
Great review.. I was an early adopter of 3d printers and over the years have owned many many different brands some good and some just awful. I recently took the plunge on a A1 Mini with AMS to try the technology before possibly getting a bigger Bamboo Machine. To say I have been blown away would be a massive understatement. The printer screams quality immediately apparent by the weight. Within 20 minutes it was put together with the AMS and starting a test print. The quality is incredible in fact I didn't think this sort of quality was possible on an FDM machine. You really need to look extremely closely to stand any chance of possibly seeing a layer line or two. Three months on and it still give that 'wow' reaction every time I use it, totally intuitive, superb quality prints at an incredible speed. The software on my Mac and the iPhone app is just brilliant and for me covers every thing I have so far needed to do. I will be purchasing the P1S next and selling my other printers. They really have produced a winner
For cardboard spools, I just break off the sides and slide it onto an empty Bambu spool. That works quite well, except that the Bambu won't auto-detect the filament.
Double check that the size of the cardboard hole is larger than bambulab’s one BEFORE breaking it :) I almost ruined a new cardboard spool that didn’t fit on the bambulab’s empty spool. (I had to print a 2 part spool to save it)
And that's an instant like and subscribe! I've finally decided to get my own printer specifically for printing terrain (Mainly for Middle Earth SBG, Legion and 40k) and I've been guided over to Bambu and was trying to figure out if I really need that $$$ jump from the AI to the P1S. And honestly? Being told the conclusion upfront not only saved me mental headspace trying to keep track of the pros and cons to measure them against your conclusion, it actually made me watch through the whole video anyways even though I got what I came for in the first minute because I was enticed and grateful for the respect of the viewers' time!
another thing that is missing in the video, if I didn't missed it, it's the location for the printer... the P1S can be placed as close to the wall as you want (plus the AMS doesn't take any extra space as you said), the A1 need an allowance behind the printer for the bed to move, it's more "middle of the desk kind of printer more than a printer in the far corner of the desk
The missing screen problem on the P1S might be solved with an €55 upgrade, the Panda Touch. You can also print/configure multiple Bambu Lab printers from 1 Panda Touch screen. Could be worthwhile to take a look at.
I've been a Creality guy for a while but just purchased my first Bambu labs A1 combo kit. I'm going to take a chance with the top mount bracket for the AMS lite. I don't have the space for such a large foot print. I've been printing it in PETG on my K1C. Love my K1C by the way. An amazing printer with outstanding quality and speed. I was all set to pre order the K2 Plus but decided I would wait a while to see if there are any user issues before diving in. The 350mm squared print area is a big sell for me. What the A1 lacks in size it seems to make up for in quality. I look forward to learning the AMS as this will be my first experience with a multi filament system. I do all of my slicing in Orca. So the Bambu studio should be an easy transition. Great video by the way!
bed slingers tend to be slower than core x-y due to bed movement on the y axis. if you have a larger mass or tall part accelerative forces moving your print may cause your part to detach from the bed with excessive acceleration.
FYI the A1 is not on sale atm due to potentially faulty hotbed cabling. Not all are affected, check with Bambu Lab to see what your options are. DO NOT PANIC
Full recall as of now (February 9th, 2024). Still, Bambu is handling the issue very well, so when the fixed A1 is available, I'll be grabbing one with the quickness.I can't wait to retire my ender 3 pro...
If you do get one I hope you enjoy it. I went from the neptune 3 to the P1S and it was just such a different machine that I kind of fell in love with FDM printing rather than my usual resin stuff.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures The post processing and clean up for fdm is nothing compared to cleaning tank trays and build plates every print. The next level in 3D printing is POLYJET.
So when does Bambu update their enclosed XY printer line ? Or are they going to pull a prussia and get back to it in 5 years? The higher end printer shouldn't have a smaller screen.
I big down side with the A1 is the bed on the Z axis, and this goes for any printer with such a configuration, having printed for many years with this it can cause issues when print big prints, the constant throwing back and forth, adding in weight with each layer and the extra inertia added, you will notice this with your prints, and to the extreme of the acceleration of the Z axis even throwing your print straight off the bed, especially tall thin prints like vases, and thats where the P1S wins hands down, regardless of all the other features, this one alone is enough to win me over, i feel all printers should now come with the Bed on the Y axis
I was a little worried about not having an enclosure with the A1, but this would go into my computer/music room and I have both an air purifier and dehumidifier running in there on a consistent schedule so I wouldn’t really have to worry about humidity or dust messing with the filament and rest of the machine. I would also revert to closing the air vent and just using my ceiling fan which I believe should help with preventing sudden drafts and temperature changes in the room. I can’t wait til May when they start shipping these out again so I can get one!
Great video. I've followed 3D printing for years, but never made the leap. Tempted to leap straight to P1S, though I do wish it had the UI of the A1. I don't plan to print different materials NOW, but for the price difference I'm considering if I ever MAY want to.
as a newbie who's currently only interested in printing pla, I'm very happy with the A1. That said, if I get into 3d printing in a bigger way, I could see upgrading to the p1s in the future, & give the a1 to a friend or family member. I'd be more tempted if we see a future upgrade to the p1s, particularly a version with the improved user interface & quick change hot end from the a1.
Interesting to know that you like that enclosed P1s protect your print from children or pets, where I like that the enclosure protect children or pets from the dangers of the printer... but that's just me 🤷♂️😂
P1S PROS Better camera Fully enclosed for protection and temp control Faster Able to print most types of material AMS on top CONS $300-$400 more No touchscreen ----------- A1 PROS Quieter Easier to swap nozzles Touchscreen $300-$400 cheaper Easier to fix and clean CONS Can only print a few material types Flings filament poop Takes up way more space with AMS If you want something sleek, more compatible with other materials and have the extra money the P1S is for you If you are just a hobbyist and don't care about printing in any other materials than PLA and your room stays around the same temp the A1 is for you
the major thing is the A1 is going to be slower, due to the nature of a bed slinger. Its also going to take more space because, again, ITS A BED SLINGER. So it commands more space not only AS the printer but also that AMS takes even more space. The P1S/X1C are Core X/Y allowing for higher speeds, because only the print head is moving, also you can play with the settings and speed up the jerk/accel over default. Also that AMS sits on top meaning the form factor of the whole system is only as large as the case it sits in, maybe a bit extra if you print the poop bucket that goes on the side. Price, ya the A1 is great for muti color at about half the cost of the P1S. However the P1 will give you better future proofing should your printer needs change or expand (and they will).
I'm seeing ABS prints off the A1 and as long as their not too big ...it's working :) as a side note you can get an enclosure for the A1 as well /w air filtration.
good video bought the A1 as my first printer and i can recommend it. I do have to say its was not perfect as i'm on my second A1 (now with ams). the first one had a terrible click noise when the bed moves really annoying and loud i think because the gear on the motor was not good. The second i got now for some days is a lot better but also has some noise problems. this one has some rattles so quality control should be better but i have to say customer support has been good so overall a W :)
Thanks for the video review , i bought the A1 with out the Light AMS , but i might buy the Light AMS later , but since my first 3d printer and still waiting on delivery from Germany warehouse , kinda want to see with the tubers are saying about A1 i got recommanded A1 by my friend that have the bambu Lab X1 with AMS and what i hear so fare on the tubers channels its a great 3d printer for the price and entry to 3d printing , thats why i choose A1. how ever the delivery was delayed 2 days by the postal service , so im getting even more excited to get the printer in my home. just hope i get the mouse with it :) anyways thanks for a very nice review even thou i had bought the A1 before watching you video , i still found it very use full , so thank you so much for that. Cheers !
I decided to get the A1, just because the P1S was quite more expensive and i mostly print Standard Materials. A first Test with ASA went ok on it, but I have it inside a warm room with constant temp. Some things i would miss if I had the P1S, The display is really nice and you dont have to search another device. And the AMS lite is so easy to use with all of my spools, even the thicker ones,250g ones and cardboard ones. A very easy to use and comfortable printer. Will probably wait for a P2S, to get in some years once it has a better display and hopefully a wider AMS like Hydra mod. For the saved money I just got more filament and hardened Nozzles/Gear ;)
I understand that with hardened steel noozles you can add the ability to print carbon infused PLA on A1, please if you are able to confirm, Ill appreciate it!
Something else to think about is the VOCs and other stuff that 3D printers expel into the air you breathe, if you're using a 3D printer in a busy room, a P1S might not be a bad extra investment.
Hello! Just discovered this channel and just bought the A1 Combo, can't wait to receive it! PS: noticed you Jurassic Park poster behind you, I just release a Jurassic Park Jeep replica on cults3D a few days ago, it will be great to see it on your channel! 😄
Must say i have only had my BL A1 for a couple of weeks but i print abs no problem at all i mainly use pla, abs, petg not a problem with any Fantastic printer i also have 3 Flashforge 5Ms and yes they are a little bit faster than the A1. Great video :)
@@GrayScalpMiniaturesThe print bed does get hot enough, the main reason they don't is that enclosing the printer also traps heat around the other electrical components like the main board and PSU, which aren't rated for running above 40-50° for extended periods of time. Also they'd rather upsell to the P1S lol
I would have compared the P1P to the A1, as an enclosure just adds a whole new level of usability over open frame. The P1 series are also CoreXY and not a bed slinger, which makes a huge difference also. I'd expect a bed slinger to be slower than a CoreXY machine. A1 is definitely 1000 times better than an Ender series though. Quite honestly, like cheaper too, by the time you add all the modifcations you have to do to an Ender 3 and still not get close to the quality of Bambu Labs. These days I just want something to work out of the box.
Learning the ropes on an Ender 3 Neo, but defo buying a Bambu Labs soon. Was going for the A1 but now im tempted by the P1S, whats an extra few hundred ££
I chose the P1S because that was Bambu's original mission goal: To kill bed slingers. It is why i am very sad to see them produce both the A1 and the mini, but I can understand it's value proposition: The price of an Ender 3, the quality of Bambu.
Shame they haven't come out with a plug in and plug screen replacement. I'd buy a little mini screen if I were cheap and then I would buy p1s's. But without it... I'm so torn between an x1c and A1, how ridiculous is that lol
Thank you for the comparison I found value and subscribed. :) Urgent Question though.. How "slight" is the noise difference between the A1 and the P1S. That is actually the main thing that stops me from returning the A1 getting the P1S instead? I love the price of the A1 combo but i want table space and ability to print more materials in the future so I have 2 days to decide wether to keep the A1 or just get a p1s stand alone.
Hi, thanks for the review. I saw a glimpse of a huge space marine on the P1S. Is it a custom print? Do you have any other videos where we can see it in all it's glory? Thanks!
Your "dig" on the A1 having the filament, on-top of the A1 crossbar, is unfounded, as BL already addresses this as most likely the standard (they give the STL link), and that the machine ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR VIBRATION as it CALIBRATES!
I have the A1 and the camera is literally a better-than-nothing camera. Absolutely sufficient to check on the print job and nothing else. But the price to performance is absolutely unbeatable right now. The A1 is the grown up product that the X and P series should have been. Hopefully the next X and P series printer takes the lessons from the A1 and runs away
There is no perfect Bambu printer at the moment. I want the touch screen from the X1 carbon and the easily interchangeable nozzles from the A1 in the P1S format. I am happy with my P1S, but I'm disappointed that I can't get those other features.
A decent middle ground is the aliexpress aftermarket hotends so you can just unscrew the nozzle and screw in a new one plus use cht nozzles for even more speed and more even surface finish.
Choosing my first 3d printer between P1S and A1. Might go with A1, because I think that "P" and "X" series will be updated soon, any ideas about it? When we can wait next generation? Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Have you had any issues with heat creep while printing PLA in the P1S? Bambu recommends leaving the door open or the top off when printing PLA, but I'd much rather have it closed for noise and dust. Interested to know if you had any issues printing fully enclosed or if you leave the door open.
Great video. So you didn't return your A1 for the recall or was this before the recall? I loved my A1 in spite of the fact my heat bed failed before the recall (not the wire, if just wouldn't heat higher that 36). I returned it via the recall and am patiently await the re-release of the A1. The A1 mini I have as well is working great. I hope they get the new version out in early May, have ample supply and give those of us that returned via the recall priority. If the A1 will only take 1 AMS why are there 2 ports? Lets hope they implement the use of two AMS's at some point via a software update, a hub like the other printers.
That was my plan also but with the recall going on now there isn't really a time frame for A1s for new customers. I ended up going with the P1S as a result.
@MSaxton1 I bought my a1 on December 25th and it was a pretty decent printer I would say it had more failed prints compared to my k1 max and I printed a lot more bigger projects with my k1 max but with this whole recall thing I'm returning my a1 from the recent problems I had with clogging and bed issues and z axis failing to hoke which caused me to not be able to even use the printer for weeks so I ordered the p1s combo last night and I'm excited
@@HosaBosa I don't have a lot of experience with other brands. I have two Ender 3 originals and two Ender 3 V2s. They have served me well over the years and I still use them daily but since I am transitioning from hobby to business I really need to move on to better, more reliable machines. I have bought into the Bambu hype, lets hope it lives up to it. If it's as good as I expect I plan to add multiple A1s to the lineup once they become available again in May. I ordered the P1S combo a few days ago and received my tracking numbers last night. I am excited as well.
@@MSaxton1 I've known about the hobby for ever and we did it in computer class years ago and I wanted to turn it from a hobby into a buisness as well but for now I need to work on some more fusion 360 courses so I can make my own models. I've already modeled a colonge holder and a nightstand organization tray. So I'm hoping I can be able to get something for them, but I've only had the creality k1 max and the bambu lab a1 so hopefully the p1s exceeds ny expectations.
Hi, looking at possibly a first venture into printing. Was watching the nice open design of the A1. My desire is to print essentially a 9” box with a separate top that can be attached with a hinge. Wall thickness just thick enough to give the box rigidity, so maybe 1/4”. The box needs to have a specific shape to fit where it needs to go, and it would be nice to print a logo on the cover in a different color. Does not need surface decorations. The part I don’t know is…with a box basically 9” in length, width and depth as well as 1/4” wall thickness, how long would it take to make? The idea would be to make multiples of this piece. As I have no experience I don’t know how long a box like this takes to print. Thanks!
I bought the a1 mini coming from Ender 3 s1. Worlds difference. Thinking about buying another and retiring the s1 it’s just giving me adhesion fits at the end of 3 day prints and the mini takes a quarter of the timevtovprintctge same thing.
Yeah you can't really go too far wrong with either printer. Just be aware with the A1 there is currently a potential issue with the heat bed cable to watch out for. If it's not there on your machine, then it shouldn't ever be a problem unless you cause it.
I'm loving my A1 with it's AMS Lite. I've had it for a week and it's my first printer. I've been printing with it non stop. Been using Bambu PLA with the RFID that automatically recognizes sets the filament profile attributes automatically. And it performs flow rate calibrations before each print (optional, but nice and only takes a minute) and does dynamic flowrate calibrations too I've just received my first non bambu filament, the Sunlu Silk PLA+ . I'm a little confused though how to set those filaments up for the AMS and slicer. I know i can select simply Generic PLA Silk profile, but I'm not sure how the AMS and printer will know which AMS filament spool correlates to the slicers # 1, 2, 3, 4. I think I'll need to first set those filament profiles in the Bambu Studio device tab, then I'm the prepare tab click on the filament Sync button? Did that sound correct? I'm going to try it tonight after work. My next printer may be a next gen P2 series whenever those come out, but for now I'd recommend the A1. We can find inexpensive tent enclosures on Amazon if we want to print with ABS or Nylon on the A1. A few people on the A1 discord are doing that. The bed goes up to 100c so i think Bambu kinda predicted some would try such filaments in it. Just hold your breath when opening the tent and try not to breath the noxious gasses 😂
Its quite easy to set up other filaments. For AMS, just click the + right of filament to add new ones and then just set the type for every material you want. The standard profiles work great, no comparison to my other printers, how easy it is.
What is the difference in "poop" between them both? It kills me how much "poop" the P1S puts out. Now I have seen some videos on minimalizing the "poop" but its still amazing how much filament they waste. Wish I had the $4K for the XL, but thats a dream.
I was looking to specifically print TPU. I know quality can vary with how soft the tpu is but is there any difference between the two in terms of quality of print?
I am currently coming from an any cubic viper which is a wonderful printer for what it does and I usually only print things at 60 mm per second which is actually probably not even 60 mm per second so I'm hoping that the A1 is light years faster lol Even if it is supposedly a little bit slower than the P1S
Trust me, take the word "slower" with a grain of salt. Both printers are lightyears ahead of the 60mm/s bedslingers. I have an Elegoo Neptune 2 from several years ago and whatever that says it takes 8hrs to print, it's usually 2-3hrs on any of the Bambu printers. Probably even faster with more settings tuning. It's very very hard to go back to the slow ones, once you used one of these.
@@Neanderthal75 I appreciate the information brother! That makes me feel a whole lot better! I literally am getting the A1 combo for the price that I paid for just the any cubic viper 2 years ago lol!
Oh the A1 is absolutely a fast machine! When I say slower than the P1S, it really is only that 10-15% slower, and in the grand scheme of printing, that's not slow at all. Hopefully you enjoy your new machine!
What about very high prints on the A1? I've had plenty of problems with tall and narrow objects on my previous bed slingers, hence thinking about P1S for PETG, also had plenty of issues with material warping off the bed.
Bambulabs A1 currently displays a recall - do not use - message on the LCD and has a confusing mix of solutions. I bought the unit from the Burnaby Canada office for family from another country. "Industry (manufacturers, importers, sellers) must report health or safety incidents involving a consumer product. This requirement is outlined in Section 14 of the Canada Consumer Product Safety Act." Bambulabs have no info in the government product safety data base so they are either ignorant of the law or complicit. They must alert the purchaser and recipient immediately and effect a replacement or immediate refund.
I'm wavering between a P1P or an A1. I will only print in PLA. The A1 has Active Flow Rate Compensation and easy nozzle changes, but the P1P does not. What do you think?
Does room temperature make a difference? I would be placing which ever i choose in a cold basement, would that affect a print and would that mean an enclosed printer be better?
Is there any difference in build area? I've heard that, in the case of the A1, corners of prints with a large contact area with the bed can curl up, meaning you can't really use the whole area of the bed in some cases. I'm trying to decide which one of the printers to buy, and if this issue really exists it'll be the p1s for sure🙃
How is A1 behave for printing miniatures? I want to get a printer and be able to print figures without to much hassle and at the same time do not poison my kids and myself with resin…
What is the clearance behind the printer on the P1S vs the A1? I have limited desk space so I'm worried about clearance for the swinging bed and cable on the A1. What would you say is the effective total depth of each printer?
Thank you fo rthe info. Can you tell me please... with the A1 & AMS lite, can I print with different materials within the same model? Such as PLA and PETG?
For the extra the p1s is a better buy if you can afford it. The enclosure is nice, gives you a wider variety of filament choices and helps reduce the sound a bit. Plus if you have the ams it allows you to stack it on top and thus frees up desk space for another printer 😂
Great review.. I was an early adopter of 3d printers and over the years have owned many many different brands some good and some just awful. I recently took the plunge on a A1 Mini with AMS to try the technology before possibly getting a bigger Bamboo Machine. To say I have been blown away would be a massive understatement. The printer screams quality immediately apparent by the weight. Within 20 minutes it was put together with the AMS and starting a test print. The quality is incredible in fact I didn't think this sort of quality was possible on an FDM machine. You really need to look extremely closely to stand any chance of possibly seeing a layer line or two. Three months on and it still give that 'wow' reaction every time I use it, totally intuitive, superb quality prints at an incredible speed. The software on my Mac and the iPhone app is just brilliant and for me covers every thing I have so far needed to do. I will be purchasing the P1S next and selling my other printers. They really have produced a winner
Thanks for your amazing intro for ppl who wants a quick answer!!
For cardboard spools, I just break off the sides and slide it onto an empty Bambu spool. That works quite well, except that the Bambu won't auto-detect the filament.
Double check that the size of the cardboard hole is larger than bambulab’s one BEFORE breaking it :)
I almost ruined a new cardboard spool that didn’t fit on the bambulab’s empty spool. (I had to print a 2 part spool to save it)
@@reminiDave yeah several of them make the inner cardboard smaller. which sucks. but there are adapters you can print.
And that's an instant like and subscribe! I've finally decided to get my own printer specifically for printing terrain (Mainly for Middle Earth SBG, Legion and 40k) and I've been guided over to Bambu and was trying to figure out if I really need that $$$ jump from the AI to the P1S.
And honestly? Being told the conclusion upfront not only saved me mental headspace trying to keep track of the pros and cons to measure them against your conclusion, it actually made me watch through the whole video anyways even though I got what I came for in the first minute because I was enticed and grateful for the respect of the viewers' time!
another thing that is missing in the video, if I didn't missed it, it's the location for the printer... the P1S can be placed as close to the wall as you want (plus the AMS doesn't take any extra space as you said), the A1 need an allowance behind the printer for the bed to move, it's more "middle of the desk kind of printer more than a printer in the far corner of the desk
Yes, this one is big concern for me too
How does that work with the poop chute? Do you still need space for the poop to be droppped somewhere?
The missing screen problem on the P1S might be solved with an €55 upgrade, the Panda Touch.
You can also print/configure multiple Bambu Lab printers from 1 Panda Touch screen.
Could be worthwhile to take a look at.
Thank you for the early conclusion. Ily
I've been a Creality guy for a while but just purchased my first Bambu labs A1 combo kit. I'm going to take a chance with the top mount bracket for the AMS lite. I don't have the space for such a large foot print. I've been printing it in PETG on my K1C. Love my K1C by the way. An amazing printer with outstanding quality and speed. I was all set to pre order the K2 Plus but decided I would wait a while to see if there are any user issues before diving in. The 350mm squared print area is a big sell for me. What the A1 lacks in size it seems to make up for in quality. I look forward to learning the AMS as this will be my first experience with a multi filament system. I do all of my slicing in Orca. So the Bambu studio should be an easy transition. Great video by the way!
I could barely tell the print at 1:05 and yet I knew it was the green rangers helmet without a doubt and it looks awesome :D
bed slingers tend to be slower than core x-y due to bed movement on the y axis. if you have a larger mass or tall part accelerative forces moving your print may cause your part to detach from the bed with excessive acceleration.
FYI the A1 is not on sale atm due to potentially faulty hotbed cabling. Not all are affected, check with Bambu Lab to see what your options are. DO NOT PANIC
Full recall as of now (February 9th, 2024). Still, Bambu is handling the issue very well, so when the fixed A1 is available, I'll be grabbing one with the quickness.I can't wait to retire my ender 3 pro...
@@NWGRI'm with you 100% I too want an A1 and get rid of the ender 3s1 😂
I have A1 with AMS they already change the faulty bed and upgrade the Wire. no issue with my 2 Bambu A1 until now. :)
No one can go wrong with either! Both are work horse and are super easy to use.
Absolutely. Both have been amazing machines so far.
thank you, very good video. the info first and then the rest.
Please please share your profile settings for printing terrain! Those cemetery walls are stunning!
I think it was using fuzzy walls
@@TomT-ru8wz what's that mean?
@@mfmageiwatch It's literally a setting to be enabled in slicer software. Look up e.g. Cura fuzzy
I think he ams light is a work of art 😊
Great comparison, thanks! I've had an A1 combo in my cart for a couple weeks LOL - I think I *have* to get one to supplement my Elegoo Neptune 3 🙂
I have a Neptune 4 pro and since getting the A1 combo the Neptune doesn’t get used.
If you do get one I hope you enjoy it. I went from the neptune 3 to the P1S and it was just such a different machine that I kind of fell in love with FDM printing rather than my usual resin stuff.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures The post processing and clean up for fdm is nothing compared to cleaning tank trays and build plates every print. The next level in 3D printing is POLYJET.
Great comparison to help in making a buying decision. I agree with you that you're not going to go wrong with either! -Courtney
Hope you picked the P1S!
So when does Bambu update their enclosed XY printer line ? Or are they going to pull a prussia and get back to it in 5 years? The higher end printer shouldn't have a smaller screen.
Great Video! And nice to see our Grimdark Landing Pad made it onto your desk ;)
I big down side with the A1 is the bed on the Z axis, and this goes for any printer with such a configuration, having printed for many years with this it can cause issues when print big prints, the constant throwing back and forth, adding in weight with each layer and the extra inertia added, you will notice this with your prints, and to the extreme of the acceleration of the Z axis even throwing your print straight off the bed, especially tall thin prints like vases, and thats where the P1S wins hands down, regardless of all the other features, this one alone is enough to win me over, i feel all printers should now come with the Bed on the Y axis
Idk why I’m even watching this. I’m currently still using my old ender 3 v2 so either of these is going to be a MASSIVE upgrade. I’m going with the A1
Superb review. Give me 14 of those.
I was a little worried about not having an enclosure with the A1, but this would go into my computer/music room and I have both an air purifier and dehumidifier running in there on a consistent schedule so I wouldn’t really have to worry about humidity or dust messing with the filament and rest of the machine. I would also revert to closing the air vent and just using my ceiling fan which I believe should help with preventing sudden drafts and temperature changes in the room. I can’t wait til May when they start shipping these out again so I can get one!
i got one and it is in such shitty condition that bambu said they will replace it for me LOL
Great video. I've followed 3D printing for years, but never made the leap. Tempted to leap straight to P1S, though I do wish it had the UI of the A1. I don't plan to print different materials NOW, but for the price difference I'm considering if I ever MAY want to.
as a newbie who's currently only interested in printing pla, I'm very happy with the A1. That said, if I get into 3d printing in a bigger way, I could see upgrading to the p1s in the future, & give the a1 to a friend or family member. I'd be more tempted if we see a future upgrade to the p1s, particularly a version with the improved user interface & quick change hot end from the a1.
Interesting to know that you like that enclosed P1s protect your print from children or pets, where I like that the enclosure protect children or pets from the dangers of the printer... but that's just me 🤷♂️😂
P1S
PROS
Better camera
Fully enclosed for protection and temp control
Faster
Able to print most types of material
AMS on top
CONS
$300-$400 more
No touchscreen
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A1
PROS
Quieter
Easier to swap nozzles
Touchscreen
$300-$400 cheaper
Easier to fix and clean
CONS
Can only print a few material types
Flings filament poop
Takes up way more space with AMS
If you want something sleek, more compatible with other materials and have the extra money the P1S is for you
If you are just a hobbyist and don't care about printing in any other materials than PLA and your room stays around the same temp the A1 is for you
Half way through the video and found this comment thank you A1 is for me don’t need the P1.
A1 for nozzle swap and screen, but a core xy is a pretty good option . A1 mini on the other hand is a great alternative but lacks support on the app!
I think for most people they use desktop slicers, but I didn’t realize that about the A1 mini
Excellent review and exactly the two printers I was considering. Thank you!
the major thing is the A1 is going to be slower, due to the nature of a bed slinger. Its also going to take more space because, again, ITS A BED SLINGER. So it commands more space not only AS the printer but also that AMS takes even more space. The P1S/X1C are Core X/Y allowing for higher speeds, because only the print head is moving, also you can play with the settings and speed up the jerk/accel over default. Also that AMS sits on top meaning the form factor of the whole system is only as large as the case it sits in, maybe a bit extra if you print the poop bucket that goes on the side.
Price, ya the A1 is great for muti color at about half the cost of the P1S. However the P1 will give you better future proofing should your printer needs change or expand (and they will).
I'm seeing ABS prints off the A1 and as long as their not too big ...it's working :) as a side note you can get an enclosure for the A1 as well /w air filtration.
Excellent review, is valuable for someone comparing machines. My “best use” case is for the more expensive one 😢 so I better get saving! 😂
Glad you liked it. I thought it would be handy for those who wanted to know some of the real world usage differences, rather than just the specs.
good video bought the A1 as my first printer and i can recommend it. I do have to say its was not perfect as i'm on my second A1 (now with ams). the first one had a terrible click noise when the bed moves really annoying and loud i think because the gear on the motor was not good. The second i got now for some days is a lot better but also has some noise problems. this one has some rattles so quality control should be better but i have to say customer support has been good so overall a W :)
That's interesting to hear. Hopefully your second one performs better.
Thanks for the video review ,
i bought the A1 with out the Light AMS ,
but i might buy the Light AMS later ,
but since my first 3d printer and still waiting
on delivery from Germany warehouse ,
kinda want to see with the tubers are saying about A1
i got recommanded A1 by my friend that have the bambu Lab X1 with AMS
and what i hear so fare on the tubers channels its a great 3d printer for the price and entry
to 3d printing , thats why i choose A1.
how ever the delivery was delayed 2 days by the postal service , so im getting even more
excited to get the printer in my home.
just hope i get the mouse with it :)
anyways thanks for a very nice review even thou i had bought the A1 before watching you video ,
i still found it very use full , so thank you so much for that.
Cheers !
I decided to get the A1, just because the P1S was quite more expensive and i mostly print Standard Materials. A first Test with ASA went ok on it, but I have it inside a warm room with constant temp. Some things i would miss if I had the P1S, The display is really nice and you dont have to search another device. And the AMS lite is so easy to use with all of my spools, even the thicker ones,250g ones and cardboard ones. A very easy to use and comfortable printer. Will probably wait for a P2S, to get in some years once it has a better display and hopefully a wider AMS like Hydra mod. For the saved money I just got more filament and hardened Nozzles/Gear ;)
Nice, glad you're enjoying it! I'm intrigued to see what devices they come out with next!
I understand that with hardened steel noozles you can add the ability to print carbon infused PLA on A1, please if you are able to confirm, Ill appreciate it!
This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
One question... which nozzle were you using on the A1 to print the castle walls?
I'm using the 0.4 that came with it.
That looks amazing! Thanks so much for your reply.
Say whaaaat ?! I didn’t know Phil Collins has a 3D printing YT channel 😱🤔
Something else to think about is the VOCs and other stuff that 3D printers expel into the air you breathe, if you're using a 3D printer in a busy room, a P1S might not be a bad extra investment.
Hello! Just discovered this channel and just bought the A1 Combo, can't wait to receive it!
PS: noticed you Jurassic Park poster behind you, I just release a Jurassic Park Jeep replica on cults3D a few days ago, it will be great to see it on your channel! 😄
@@RogueCylon sure! I will edit a video as soon as possible.
Must say i have only had my BL A1 for a couple of weeks but i print abs no problem at all i mainly use pla, abs, petg not a problem with any Fantastic printer i also have 3 Flashforge 5Ms and yes they are a little bit faster than the A1. Great video :)
I was looking for this comparison! I think i’ll go with the p1s for the possibility to print ABS. I don’t usually print ABS but i would be able to
u can print abs on a bed slinger.
They don't recommend it though on the A1, I believe because the print bed doesn't get hot enough.
@@GrayScalpMiniaturesThe print bed does get hot enough, the main reason they don't is that enclosing the printer also traps heat around the other electrical components like the main board and PSU, which aren't rated for running above 40-50° for extended periods of time.
Also they'd rather upsell to the P1S lol
I would have compared the P1P to the A1, as an enclosure just adds a whole new level of usability over open frame.
The P1 series are also CoreXY and not a bed slinger, which makes a huge difference also. I'd expect a bed slinger to be slower than a CoreXY machine.
A1 is definitely 1000 times better than an Ender series though. Quite honestly, like cheaper too, by the time you add all the modifcations you have to do to an Ender 3 and still not get close to the quality of Bambu Labs. These days I just want something to work out of the box.
Learning the ropes on an Ender 3 Neo, but defo buying a Bambu Labs soon. Was going for the A1 but now im tempted by the P1S, whats an extra few hundred ££
I was there…Neo plus upgrades.
Got my P1S and never looked back. It just works
Ty this helped me quite a lot
Easy pick now, A1 has been recalled for fire hazard! I did love the 4 weeks of printing with my A1. It won't be available again until May/June 2024.
Biggest issue for me is for the price of the P1S combo I can get an A1 combo and most of another non-combo A1. Or nearly an A1 Mini combo.
Thanks for your great video! Have you tried wood filament on either one of these?
Can you provide the link to the houses you show in the video? That tavern one looks amazing!
I chose the P1S because that was Bambu's original mission goal: To kill bed slingers. It is why i am very sad to see them produce both the A1 and the mini, but I can understand it's value proposition: The price of an Ender 3, the quality of Bambu.
I’m in good position to get two Bambu’s printers X1CC is one. Now I’m unsure out of two the P1S or A1 Combo! 🧐
I have an AI mini and its pretty incredible. Would recommend if you don't need the extra print size
Shame they haven't come out with a plug in and plug screen replacement. I'd buy a little mini screen if I were cheap and then I would buy p1s's.
But without it... I'm so torn between an x1c and A1, how ridiculous is that lol
Panda screen
If you think the a1 is a little loud try the k1 max with the door open and the top glass screem open its stupid loud 😂 i do live my a1 more though.
Thank you for the comparison I found value and subscribed. :) Urgent Question though.. How "slight" is the noise difference between the A1 and the P1S. That is actually the main thing that stops me from returning the A1 getting the P1S instead? I love the price of the A1 combo but i want table space and ability to print more materials in the future so I have 2 days to decide wether to keep the A1 or just get a p1s stand alone.
I think the AMS Lite system looks cool 😎 in a “Teenage Engineering” type fashion 👌🏼
Hi, thanks for the review. I saw a glimpse of a huge space marine on the P1S. Is it a custom print? Do you have any other videos where we can see it in all it's glory? Thanks!
Your "dig" on the A1 having the filament, on-top of the A1 crossbar, is unfounded, as BL already addresses this as most likely the standard (they give the STL link), and that the machine ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR VIBRATION as it CALIBRATES!
What is that Darth Vader Print thing that you had going in the beginning of the video? Also keep up the nice work. Love the videos!
I have the A1 and the camera is literally a better-than-nothing camera. Absolutely sufficient to check on the print job and nothing else. But the price to performance is absolutely unbeatable right now. The A1 is the grown up product that the X and P series should have been. Hopefully the next X and P series printer takes the lessons from the A1 and runs away
There is no perfect Bambu printer at the moment. I want the touch screen from the X1 carbon and the easily interchangeable nozzles from the A1 in the P1S format. I am happy with my P1S, but I'm disappointed that I can't get those other features.
A decent middle ground is the aliexpress aftermarket hotends so you can just unscrew the nozzle and screw in a new one plus use cht nozzles for even more speed and more even surface finish.
Look up Panda Touch screen for Bambu, it is a pretty inexpensive upgrade to the screen to bring it into modern times.
Choosing my first 3d printer between P1S and A1. Might go with A1, because I think that "P" and "X" series will be updated soon, any ideas about it? When we can wait next generation? Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Im using A1 with abs and asa using yoopai enclosure. Its way cheaper and works better because it gets more enclosed than x1c
which enclosure exactly? =D
Have you had any issues with heat creep while printing PLA in the P1S? Bambu recommends leaving the door open or the top off when printing PLA, but I'd much rather have it closed for noise and dust. Interested to know if you had any issues printing fully enclosed or if you leave the door open.
Pretty much no issues. Everything just tends to print off smoothly.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures thanks for the reply, much appreciated.
Great video. So you didn't return your A1 for the recall or was this before the recall? I loved my A1 in spite of the fact my heat bed failed before the recall (not the wire, if just wouldn't heat higher that 36). I returned it via the recall and am patiently await the re-release of the A1. The A1 mini I have as well is working great. I hope they get the new version out in early May, have ample supply and give those of us that returned via the recall priority. If the A1 will only take 1 AMS why are there 2 ports? Lets hope they implement the use of two AMS's at some point via a software update, a hub like the other printers.
I plan to get the A1 and save the money!
That was my plan also but with the recall going on now there isn't really a time frame for A1s for new customers. I ended up going with the P1S as a result.
@MSaxton1 I bought my a1 on December 25th and it was a pretty decent printer I would say it had more failed prints compared to my k1 max and I printed a lot more bigger projects with my k1 max but with this whole recall thing I'm returning my a1 from the recent problems I had with clogging and bed issues and z axis failing to hoke which caused me to not be able to even use the printer for weeks so I ordered the p1s combo last night and I'm excited
@@HosaBosa I don't have a lot of experience with other brands. I have two Ender 3 originals and two Ender 3 V2s. They have served me well over the years and I still use them daily but since I am transitioning from hobby to business I really need to move on to better, more reliable machines. I have bought into the Bambu hype, lets hope it lives up to it. If it's as good as I expect I plan to add multiple A1s to the lineup once they become available again in May. I ordered the P1S combo a few days ago and received my tracking numbers last night. I am excited as well.
@@MSaxton1 I've known about the hobby for ever and we did it in computer class years ago and I wanted to turn it from a hobby into a buisness as well but for now I need to work on some more fusion 360 courses so I can make my own models. I've already modeled a colonge holder and a nightstand organization tray. So I'm hoping I can be able to get something for them, but I've only had the creality k1 max and the bambu lab a1 so hopefully the p1s exceeds ny expectations.
@MSaxton1 how was your experience with your P1S? I'm thinking of purchasing it over the A1 and was curious with your experience.
I can't decide if I should send my A1 back for one of the X1/P1. Just can't come to a conclusion! Thanks for the video.
I'm almost tempted to send my A1 back and buy it again with the 80 dollars discount.
Gret review. How are you getting such amazing finishes on those models especially the walls i cant see any layer lines!
Seems like the decision was made for us since the A1 is out of commission lol
You should choose the one that doesn’t set your house on fire
With the cost of gas to keep my house warm, I'm not so sure about that 😂
@@GrayScalpMiniatures I used to have that problem. now I have solar panels and an electric furnace
Hi, looking at possibly a first venture into printing. Was watching the nice open design of the A1. My desire is to print essentially a 9” box with a separate top that can be attached with a hinge. Wall thickness just thick enough to give the box rigidity, so maybe 1/4”.
The box needs to have a specific shape to fit where it needs to go, and it would be nice to print a logo on the cover in a different color. Does not need surface decorations.
The part I don’t know is…with a box basically 9” in length, width and depth as well as 1/4” wall thickness, how long would it take to make? The idea would be to make multiples of this piece. As I have no experience I don’t know how long a box like this takes to print. Thanks!
I'm able to print ABS with my A1. Same excellent quality as with PLA.
How?
I bought the a1 mini coming from Ender 3 s1. Worlds difference. Thinking about buying another and retiring the s1 it’s just giving me adhesion fits at the end of 3 day prints and the mini takes a quarter of the timevtovprintctge same thing.
I got my A1 combo a week ago and my P1s yesterday :D wish i could use the AMS lite with the P1S tho. both are great printers so far
Yeah you can't really go too far wrong with either printer. Just be aware with the A1 there is currently a potential issue with the heat bed cable to watch out for. If it's not there on your machine, then it shouldn't ever be a problem unless you cause it.
I've been torn between these two printers for months now. Unfortunately, I still need to decide.
There is a wall mount for the A1 AMS as well. But if you dont wanna drill into the wall I get it.
Yeah, but the problem is that everything is with 3D printed material and if broke wil be big big problem.
That screen really makes the P1S look dated already.
I'm loving my A1 with it's AMS Lite. I've had it for a week and it's my first printer.
I've been printing with it non stop. Been using Bambu PLA with the RFID that automatically recognizes sets the filament profile attributes automatically. And it performs flow rate calibrations before each print (optional, but nice and only takes a minute) and does dynamic flowrate calibrations too
I've just received my first non bambu filament, the Sunlu Silk PLA+ . I'm a little confused though how to set those filaments up for the AMS and slicer. I know i can select simply Generic PLA Silk profile, but I'm not sure how the AMS and printer will know which AMS filament spool correlates to the slicers # 1, 2, 3, 4. I think I'll need to first set those filament profiles in the Bambu Studio device tab, then I'm the prepare tab click on the filament Sync button?
Did that sound correct? I'm going to try it tonight after work.
My next printer may be a next gen P2 series whenever those come out, but for now I'd recommend the A1.
We can find inexpensive tent enclosures on Amazon if we want to print with ABS or Nylon on the A1. A few people on the A1 discord are doing that. The bed goes up to 100c so i think Bambu kinda predicted some would try such filaments in it. Just hold your breath when opening the tent and try not to breath the noxious gasses 😂
Its quite easy to set up other filaments. For AMS, just click the + right of filament to add new ones and then just set the type for every material you want. The standard profiles work great, no comparison to my other printers, how easy it is.
Or you can change the filament type from the printer, and it will sync with the slicer
What is the difference in "poop" between them both? It kills me how much "poop" the P1S puts out. Now I have seen some videos on minimalizing the "poop" but its still amazing how much filament they waste. Wish I had the $4K for the XL, but thats a dream.
I was looking to specifically print TPU. I know quality can vary with how soft the tpu is but is there any difference between the two in terms of quality of print?
I am currently coming from an any cubic viper which is a wonderful printer for what it does and I usually only print things at 60 mm per second which is actually probably not even 60 mm per second so I'm hoping that the A1 is light years faster lol Even if it is supposedly a little bit slower than the P1S
Trust me, take the word "slower" with a grain of salt. Both printers are lightyears ahead of the 60mm/s bedslingers. I have an Elegoo Neptune 2 from several years ago and whatever that says it takes 8hrs to print, it's usually 2-3hrs on any of the Bambu printers. Probably even faster with more settings tuning. It's very very hard to go back to the slow ones, once you used one of these.
@@Neanderthal75 I appreciate the information brother! That makes me feel a whole lot better! I literally am getting the A1 combo for the price that I paid for just the any cubic viper 2 years ago lol!
Oh the A1 is absolutely a fast machine! When I say slower than the P1S, it really is only that 10-15% slower, and in the grand scheme of printing, that's not slow at all. Hopefully you enjoy your new machine!
@@GrayScalpMiniatures thanks for the feedback! I'm looking forward to it! Awesome video too. New sub.
HI! nice quality prints! do you have any video with the print settings used?
commenting to follow up on an eventual answer. The prints look superb!
Why don't you print Cube with straight lines, so we can see the lines are straight or wobbly.
Bambu Lab A1 seem fine.
- Quality : no difference to P1S
- Speed : 10-15% slower than P1S
- Material : PLA - TPU - PVA - PTG
Nice review your like young Phill Collins lol I keep expecting you to star singing lol… no but love this video definitely thumbs up
What about very high prints on the A1? I've had plenty of problems with tall and narrow objects on my previous bed slingers, hence thinking about P1S for PETG, also had plenty of issues with material warping off the bed.
Any update this review? I was curious if any of your options changed regarding these printers?
Bambulabs A1 currently displays a recall - do not use - message on the LCD and has a confusing mix of solutions. I bought the unit from the Burnaby Canada office for family from another country. "Industry (manufacturers, importers, sellers) must report health or safety incidents involving a consumer product. This requirement is outlined in Section 14 of the Canada Consumer Product Safety Act." Bambulabs have no info in the government product safety data base so they are either ignorant of the law or complicit. They must alert the purchaser and recipient immediately and effect a replacement or immediate refund.
I'm wavering between a P1P or an A1. I will only print in PLA. The A1 has Active Flow Rate Compensation and easy nozzle changes, but the P1P does not. What do you think?
Does room temperature make a difference? I would be placing which ever i choose in a cold basement, would that affect a print and would that mean an enclosed printer be better?
yes if your room is really cold or fluctuates the P1S would be better
the speed difference is because the a1 is on a swinging chassis which means it is slower
Which Pinter is louder?
Is there any difference in build area? I've heard that, in the case of the A1, corners of prints with a large contact area with the bed can curl up, meaning you can't really use the whole area of the bed in some cases.
I'm trying to decide which one of the printers to buy, and if this issue really exists it'll be the p1s for sure🙃
How is A1 behave for printing miniatures? I want to get a printer and be able to print figures without to much hassle and at the same time do not poison my kids and myself with resin…
Downside of the P1S is for PLA i have to remove the top and leave the door open to stop nozzle blocks.
That's interesting! Never had any issues like that.
@@GrayScalpMiniatures I haven't either but it pops up in the tips from Bambu.
Where can we access the stl files of the wall you printed?
The A1 has a bracket you can print to put the filament system above the printer.
What is the clearance behind the printer on the P1S vs the A1? I have limited desk space so I'm worried about clearance for the swinging bed and cable on the A1. What would you say is the effective total depth of each printer?
Maybe I missed it, but what size nozzles are you using for your terrain? Stock 0.4mm or the 0.2mm?
For the Emperor!
Thank you fo rthe info. Can you tell me please... with the A1 & AMS lite, can I print with different materials within the same model? Such as PLA and PETG?