People are saying we’re toast without Ben or Glenn, coordinators don’t win games, players do, we have such a solid core, free agents will come and drafts picks, period. This fanbase is by far the most up and down out there and I’ve been a die hard for thirty years. It’s either greatness or fail, no in betweens, get a grip we won 15 games folks, we’re in it for the long haul
Wrong they are equally as important and compliment each other,you can have the most talented players but if you can call the right plays and utilize their talents it doesn’t matter and Ben Johnson was great at doing that
FWIW, Ben Johnson has only been an OC since 2022. What has me unworried is Dan saying "yeah I expect to lose them both" in a carefree comment. I think he's poised to replace them already and I do expect it to be pretty seemless. I just remember him explaining how he chose the Special Teams coach. He seems to really have a grasp on the available coaches and who to pursue. I honestly feel like there's an opportunity to actually improve. At least on defense.
Losing Fraley will hurt the most because the offense starts with the blocking schemes and he is the brain behind that under appreciated part of our offense.
If it would of worked like it has all year, we would be laughing how they're making this look like a video game like just a few weeks ago with the fake fumble...
@@sheepshaver2523 With the two RB’s that we have, 3rd and 1, in that game, at that time, you NEVER call that play. Literally, no excuse for calling that play. That’s the point. Johnson got stupid at a very bad time. He won’t do that again, because now he knows just how stupid and unnecessary that was.
@ Trust me lol I get it! On the surface that play call is outrageous. You run that ball. The idea was basically to run the ball with JMO. He has the wheels to easily grab that yard. If he had a man running WIDE than cut it loose. Jmo made a very poor decision. At worst he should of just got rid of it and they go again on 4th. Right away I felt it should of been St Brown running that, but I get Jmo's speed.
One of the upsides to all of this is that our offense can damn near run itself as long as its not pulling a cheddar bob (looking at you jamo throw) so a lot of proven coordinators would be chomping at the bit to take the restrictor plate off this offense so to speak so id say theres a few choices we have and we could actually do just as well or even better if we get someone thats less about trick plays and more flat out playing bully ball
I hope he is NOT the next Ben Johnson. I would hope he would be "genius" enough to hand Gibbs the ball when it matters the most. It's not rocket science.
@@uncadoug2715 Agree. Everyone watching EXCEPT BJ knew to give the touches to the back getting 8 yrds per clip. The next guy won't have the same tricks, but I'll take common sense over tricks.
@@dknapp100 when the best RB to ever play the game is on the sideline cheering on Gibbs each time he touched the ball, you might want to pay attention to that(?) Barry (like everyone else) could see the guy was on fire 🙌
@ Agreed. Not only did we not need them, along with nonsense from our HC, they lost us massive games, including very possibly 2 SuperBowls. It's beyond unacceptable specifically in this city.
Aren’t you guys saying the same thing about Ben Johnson when they promoted him? I think the lions will be all right. I think Brad and Dan have proven that they’re going to put the right people in place trust in Brad
I dont know how anybody that watched the lions games thinks ben is elite.. the guy always leaves you scratching your head in big moments. He had more toys to play with than any coordinator in the NFL. The offense made him look good. Put away the stats and the highlights.. remember sending 3 WR deep when we need 3 yards... Remember putting the ball in the hands of your most dysfunctional offensive player that constantly makes bad decisions, in game and out in the world, to throw a pass with the game on the line. Remember not handing the ball to Gibbs who was averaging a first down everytime he touched the ball.. We'll be fine on both sides of the ball when people arent injured
Im almost addicted to it. By the time last weekend in april rolls around im just daydreaming. We have a trout season opener and all the guys are together camping, draft on the radio@@scottdbush1
He won’t be Ben in the sense of his vision, but that’s okay! I think we should be using the run more anyways. Goff shouldn’t have to throw more than 30 times a game. Any attempts more would be disastrous
Ben Johnson did do us a big service by putting our offense on the map,, the players knew he was a wizard with the Xs an Os. But does it all matter if he falls short in the one of the biggest games of his career? Especially because it was his last...
@@ryangibson4407 Cant they same be said for your current Hc and QB it’s easy to blame ben even tho ur Hc also lost & out coached & once again a good regular season player but put pressure on him he folds as always so does it all matter who your oc is if your Hc is the same and QB is the same mediocre player when it matters
@TyrellBlavk oh no I completely agree with you.. Our "pocket passer" of a QB, can't escape a wet paper bag. For his accuracy he definitely throws a mean spiral,, to the other team.
@@noorzanayasmin7806😂 what did u want 700 passing yards 200 rushing yards of offense you wanted him to suit up and also take the statue turnover machine place in the game too
Ben was checked out in the Washington game. So was A G. I hope Tanner is great. We still have the guys behind the scenes that thought up those trick plays. lol when Dan fires ALynn and promoted Ben he knew that Ben would be in lock step with the players.
Do we want another “Ben Johnson”. Ben is a great OC, but having a new person who has a chance to take what we have and tweak it to make it their offense. The difference also makes defenses not know what they will be facing in the smaller details of the game flow. You know what you get with Ben, Tanner is an unknown commodity and this could prove beneficial.
I don't usually think this but I agree with Jeff. 100%. Will be screwed next year. If we have two rookie coordinators you can take the super bowl right out the window if that's the case
There is a saying “offense wins games, defense wins championships” we need to fix our defense with a veteran. Our offense will be fine with our weapons for now. We just need a strategic OC and I could do without the sizzle reel of trick plays
Honestly I really don’t give a shit that Ben went to the Bears. I’ve been a life long Lions fan born and raised in Chicago, it’s gonna be fun to play the Bears again.
Bill Belichick for DC. Antwan Randel EL to QB coach/ Asst OC, Move Mark Brunell up to Asst OC and Tanner to OC... Assuming Shepard leaves, but he's a great coach too. Maybe Duce Staley comes back.
If Tanner isn’t the guy offensively then we must have the guy defensively or we’re not sniffing a Super Bowl. I say we need a top 14 offense with a top 7-8 defense at least to even think about making the superbowl.
Dead ass, Lions would have beaten the commanders without Ben Johnson. All he had to do was give Gibbs the ball 35 times and they don’t throw interceptions and Gibbs shreds Washington’s defense.
Ben knows the fans are just mad lol he knows the fans really appreciated his time let the fans cope including me. Ben Johnson literally say how the fans reacted to Stafford but majority lions fans don't have no problem with him. It's all love with the fans let not act like the fans get attached to the players and coaches so they just feel a little mad.
It's apple to oranges, guys. We will be fine. I'm not a fan of all the trick plays at the wrong time! Bottom line, we need experience coordinators who can teach and think outside the box! We need someone who can lead and have them to perform.
I don't think Tanner needs to be Ben Johnson. You would think with Campbell, Goff and Tanner, they could keep the same verbiage and consistency in the offense. The Lions need to shoot for a Top 10 offense and defense to win the North and a shot at the Super Bowl. Having someone like a Dennis Allen that has been fired as a Head Coach twice might be done as a HC. You could get him to build and stay for a few years. I would love Saleh, but you could be looking again for another DC after year 1 or 2.
I'm not worried about the Bears with Ben Johnson as coach he went at Matt Lafleur in his press conference so he's already put a target on the Bears from the Lions and Packers For a team that hasn't won anything since '85 they sure are cocky
Ben won't be Ben in Chicago. He won't have the guys to block like he did in Detroit. I worked so well because of the guys they brought in. They were all team first and wanted each other to excel.
Jim O'Neill is the defensive coordinator period. In fact this hole season Jim coached the defense. Aaron Glenn was never that consistent. 15-2 with Aaron Glenn? No way in hell.Jim O?Niel was Cleveland's DC as good as their defense was under him.
Look, I’m happy that both coordinators are leaving. They could never have their side of the ball dialed in the whole season. After analyzing this season deeply I saw that both BJ and AG lost 7 games each for the this year. The Lions were lucky enough that none of those bad performances showed up at the same time during the regular season resulting in only 2 official losses. Unfortunately, they both put on losing performances in that divisional game and it finally reared its ugly head.
Don’t forget qb. Goff had 5 turnovers in his last 2 games in important games he choked. Don’t blame the defense all the way the defense bailed goof 2 interceptions in Vikings game. Could nt bail his 3 interceptions in commanders game
Jeff, give it a break. We wony have a top 5 offense, but we'll get a top 10 offense BUT give it to GIBBS ON 3RD AND 1. And I'm fine with that trade-off. Get off Ben's jockstrap
@@noorzanayasmin7806better lol they were the best not many teams had a offense like the lions most probably will never have that type of offense production again. That type of offense that was better than good it's was the best in decades for the NFL. Replicating that is impossible but being top 5 is more realistic or top 10
I hope not. We don't need another offseason shadowed with doubt and questionables like that. One and done for the best run offense vs the worst run defense is twisted. And then the news that came out about Ben and the Bears.. we need someone that stays and are experienced
Benedict Johnson is a traitor. He could’ve went other places then to the Bears total disrespect for Dan Campbell he could’ve went to the Raiders and the Jaguars total disrespect.
No its gonna be hard for Ben to do what happened here in Detroit wit a suck ass team 😂 who said he got hired you dont kno who tf we getting its been two days 😂
You act like we don't have all the plays in the same players. You need to be worried about your boy ben sucking in Chicago with nowhere near the talent. Like what are you talking about? We got all the material
A Dam doom and gloom take!! Your saying your tied of seeing certain guys On X say certain things about Ben! We are tired of content makers make videos sounding scared pooh we don't no if tanner isn't Ben uh he isn't Ben maybe he's better!! Smh
You Lions fans who are turning on Ben are disgraceful, unloyal, leeches. This dude made your team relevant for 3 years straight. ya'll are crazy for getting bitter for him bettering his life crazy stuff
LOL what? So now an OC "makes a team". So Andy Reid is dogshit its all the OC right? Sean Mcdermott stinks its all the OC. Johnson was overrated because our fans are retarded and the fake news sucked his dick constantly. Its Campbell's system. Somehow the rules are always different for the Lions
You need to realize that some Of this is about how he went about leaving the Lions to a hated rival, they the fact that he left. The leaving occurs less than 24 hrs after the loss with his staff already partially filled. It leads to speculation as to how focused he was Because you don’t put together a staff complete with signed contracts less than 2 days after our loss! That is why most people are pissed off
How good will Tanner Engstrand be for the Detroit Lions? ⬇
@@officialctsports I must be behind the curve on this one,, is he under Ben Johnson when it comes to offense? What was his specialty?
@@ryangibson4407 passing game coordinator. He's been Ben's understudy
@@jeremims9044 much appreciated Sir.. I truly had no idea lol
People are saying we’re toast without Ben or Glenn, coordinators don’t win games, players do, we have such a solid core, free agents will come and drafts picks, period. This fanbase is by far the most up and down out there and I’ve been a die hard for thirty years. It’s either greatness or fail, no in betweens, get a grip we won 15 games folks, we’re in it for the long haul
Cap. Scheme matters.
Yup, the players decide the game. Coaches at the nfl level are usually pretty sharpe.
Wrong they are equally as important and compliment each other,you can have the most talented players but if you can call the right plays and utilize their talents it doesn’t matter and Ben Johnson was great at doing that
FWIW, Ben Johnson has only been an OC since 2022. What has me unworried is Dan saying "yeah I expect to lose them both" in a carefree comment. I think he's poised to replace them already and I do expect it to be pretty seemless. I just remember him explaining how he chose the Special Teams coach. He seems to really have a grasp on the available coaches and who to pursue.
I honestly feel like there's an opportunity to actually improve. At least on defense.
Losing Fraley will hurt the most because the offense starts with the blocking schemes and he is the brain behind that under appreciated part of our offense.
I would love a Rex Ryan defense in Detroit fits our culture perfect
@OfficerMcLovin Robert Salah i hope for dc
@@OfficerMcLovin yeah is son is already working for the lions too!
Hope Tanner doesn’t call a WR pass on a 3rd and 1!
Best comment in a long time ✊
If it would of worked like it has all year, we would be laughing how they're making this look like a video game like just a few weeks ago with the fake fumble...
@@sheepshaver2523 With the two RB’s that we have, 3rd and 1, in that game, at that time, you NEVER call that play. Literally, no excuse for calling that play. That’s the point. Johnson got stupid at a very bad time. He won’t do that again, because now he knows just how stupid and unnecessary that was.
@@sheepshaver2523true…but, when the defense is getting worked… offense needs to run that Gdamn ball on 3rd and 1. FTB/FBJ. 🔥
@ Trust me lol I get it! On the surface that play call is outrageous. You run that ball. The idea was basically to run the ball with JMO. He has the wheels to easily grab that yard. If he had a man running WIDE than cut it loose. Jmo made a very poor decision. At worst he should of just got rid of it and they go again on 4th. Right away I felt it should of been St Brown running that, but I get Jmo's speed.
One of the upsides to all of this is that our offense can damn near run itself as long as its not pulling a cheddar bob (looking at you jamo throw) so a lot of proven coordinators would be chomping at the bit to take the restrictor plate off this offense so to speak so id say theres a few choices we have and we could actually do just as well or even better if we get someone thats less about trick plays and more flat out playing bully ball
I hope he is NOT the next Ben Johnson. I would hope he would be "genius" enough to hand Gibbs the ball when it matters the most. It's not rocket science.
@@dknapp100 thank you! Some people can actually learn from others mistakes, and then not repeat them
@@uncadoug2715 Agree. Everyone watching EXCEPT BJ knew to give the touches to the back getting 8 yrds per clip. The next guy won't have the same tricks, but I'll take common sense over tricks.
@@dknapp100 when the best RB to ever play the game is on the sideline cheering on Gibbs each time he touched the ball, you might want to pay attention to that(?) Barry (like everyone else) could see the guy was on fire 🙌
@@dknapp100 the trick plays were great for a bit, we needed that edge for awhile, but as the team progressed those type plays were not needed as much
@ Agreed. Not only did we not need them, along with nonsense from our HC, they lost us massive games, including very possibly 2 SuperBowls. It's beyond unacceptable specifically in this city.
Aren’t you guys saying the same thing about Ben Johnson when they promoted him? I think the lions will be all right. I think Brad and Dan have proven that they’re going to put the right people in place trust in Brad
yeah, I think most people said that Ben Johnson wasn't going to be Anthony Lynn. And I think most people were ok with that.
I hope Hank doesn't leave us. He gots a good gig here with our offensive line and Frank loves him
I dont know how anybody that watched the lions games thinks ben is elite.. the guy always leaves you scratching your head in big moments. He had more toys to play with than any coordinator in the NFL. The offense made him look good. Put away the stats and the highlights.. remember sending 3 WR deep when we need 3 yards... Remember putting the ball in the hands of your most dysfunctional offensive player that constantly makes bad decisions, in game and out in the world, to throw a pass with the game on the line. Remember not handing the ball to Gibbs who was averaging a first down everytime he touched the ball.. We'll be fine on both sides of the ball when people arent injured
I don't know if it's just being a life long Lions fan, but I love the offseason lol.
🤣🤣🤣
I have fun thinking about which way they'll draft.
Im almost addicted to it. By the time last weekend in april rolls around im just daydreaming. We have a trout season opener and all the guys are together camping, draft on the radio@@scottdbush1
Why not Robert Saleh for the defense? I'd rather have him than Schwartz.
@@bradpirochta9293 I'd take Saleh too but nothing wrong with Schwartz, just know if it is Schwartz the defense will be aggressive asf
Saleh is still in line for a few HC jobs such as Jacksonville.
He won’t be Ben in the sense of his vision, but that’s okay! I think we should be using the run more anyways. Goff shouldn’t have to throw more than 30 times a game. Any attempts more would be disastrous
How about switching our offensive style to more of a ground game control the clock type offense
Works for Philly. Gibbs is dog and the o line is good.
A BLIND DEAF MAN COULD CALL A BETTER GAME THAN BEN DID VS WASHINGTON 💯
Offense takes a step back which is fine IF the defense is able to improve.
Ben Johnson did do us a big service by putting our offense on the map,, the players knew he was a wizard with the Xs an Os. But does it all matter if he falls short in the one of the biggest games of his career? Especially because it was his last...
@@ryangibson4407 Cant they same be said for your current Hc and QB it’s easy to blame ben even tho ur Hc also lost & out coached & once again a good regular season player but put pressure on him he folds as always so does it all matter who your oc is if your Hc is the same and QB is the same mediocre player when it matters
it was his last thats why he didnt put too much attention in it
@TyrellBlavk oh no I completely agree with you.. Our "pocket passer" of a QB, can't escape a wet paper bag. For his accuracy he definitely throws a mean spiral,, to the other team.
@@noorzanayasmin7806 exactly! We should be able to sue him lol
@@noorzanayasmin7806😂 what did u want 700 passing yards 200 rushing yards of offense you wanted him to suit up and also take the statue turnover machine place in the game too
We still have like a top five roster. We're not going to start losing just because Ben and AG are gone
Ben was checked out in the Washington game. So was A G. I hope Tanner is great. We still have the guys behind the scenes that thought up those trick plays. lol when Dan fires ALynn and promoted Ben he knew that Ben would be in lock step with the players.
People inside Allen Park credit the Offensive success to Tanner Engstrand rather than Ben Johnson. Lions brass really like T.E. creativity.
Stay lions strong!!!
Do we want another “Ben Johnson”. Ben is a great OC, but having a new person who has a chance to take what we have and tweak it to make it their offense. The difference also makes defenses not know what they will be facing in the smaller details of the game flow. You know what you get with Ben, Tanner is an unknown commodity and this could prove beneficial.
There would be no Ben Johnson at the Lions without Dan. Dan recognized his talent and promoted him from quality control
I don't usually think this but I agree with Jeff. 100%. Will be screwed next year. If we have two rookie coordinators you can take the super bowl right out the window if that's the case
There is a saying “offense wins games, defense wins championships” we need to fix our defense with a veteran.
Our offense will be fine with our weapons for now. We just need a strategic OC and I could do without the sizzle reel of trick plays
Honestly I really don’t give a shit that Ben went to the Bears. I’ve been a life long Lions fan born and raised in Chicago, it’s gonna be fun to play the Bears again.
Tanner was being groomed because we knew Ben was looking for a head coach job
The problem with a guy like Saleh you most likely renting him for 1 year. He wants another shot at HC .
I can’t lie, I wouldn’t be mad if Rex Ryan comes to Detroit!
Heres a name no one is talking about Gus Bradley.. look at those early seahawks teams outside chance but id at least give him an interview
We got 2 3rd round comp picks for AG's hire. Send one to Cleveland for Jim Schwartz
Bill Belichick for DC. Antwan Randel EL to QB coach/ Asst OC, Move Mark Brunell up to Asst OC and Tanner to OC... Assuming Shepard leaves, but he's a great coach too. Maybe Duce Staley comes back.
If Tanner isn’t the guy offensively then we must have the guy defensively or we’re not sniffing a Super Bowl. I say we need a top 14 offense with a top 7-8 defense at least to even think about making the superbowl.
Rex Ryan please he would be perfect as the DC
It's going to come out that Ben Johnson took that job just to show the world that he's the reason Detroit turned around. Not Dan Campbell
I wonder why no one's talking about the three referees that got fired after calling the lines and commander game
Is this true?
I will slow down to calling him the next great OC let’s just see what he can do
Dead ass, Lions would have beaten the commanders without Ben Johnson. All he had to do was give Gibbs the ball 35 times and they don’t throw interceptions and Gibbs shreds Washington’s defense.
I'm hearing Dan Campbell didn't get along with Ben Johnson and he might not have been asked to come back anyway 🤔
FBJ!
I think Tanner is the logical choice for OC.
He don't have to be the next Ben Johnson and apparently nobody who we replace him with will eather
Ben knows the fans are just mad lol he knows the fans really appreciated his time let the fans cope including me. Ben Johnson literally say how the fans reacted to Stafford but majority lions fans don't have no problem with him. It's all love with the fans let not act like the fans get attached to the players and coaches so they just feel a little mad.
I'd love a Jim Schwartz hire 1st, Salah 2nd (because he's still looking for another HC job).
Jim Swartz for defense
Jim Schwartz will never step foot in Allen Park ever again. Don't even bring up his name in this town.
It's apple to oranges, guys. We will be fine. I'm not a fan of all the trick plays at the wrong time! Bottom line, we need experience coordinators who can teach and think outside the box! We need someone who can lead and have them to perform.
But you can't go half Ass, get the best possible Nationaly, loyalty has its place.
I don't think Tanner needs to be Ben Johnson. You would think with Campbell, Goff and Tanner, they could keep the same verbiage and consistency in the offense. The Lions need to shoot for a Top 10 offense and defense to win the North and a shot at the Super Bowl.
Having someone like a Dennis Allen that has been fired as a Head Coach twice might be done as a HC. You could get him to build and stay for a few years. I would love Saleh, but you could be looking again for another DC after year 1 or 2.
Jared will never win a super bowl until we have a top 10 defense, so that needs to be the strategy in my opinion
I'm not worried about the Bears with Ben Johnson as coach he went at Matt Lafleur in his press conference so he's already put a target on the Bears from the Lions and Packers
For a team that hasn't won anything since '85 they sure are cocky
Ben won't be Ben in Chicago. He won't have the guys to block like he did in Detroit. I worked so well because of the guys they brought in. They were all team first and wanted each other to excel.
It’s called “X” NOT twitter…!!!
Is he our OC now, because if we wait around we might lose him too !!
Jim O'Neill is the defensive coordinator period. In fact this hole season Jim coached the defense. Aaron Glenn was never that consistent. 15-2 with Aaron Glenn? No way in hell.Jim O?Niel was Cleveland's DC as good as their defense was under him.
Yeah he the defensive assistant I wouldn't be surprised and help Glenn
Look, I’m happy that both coordinators are leaving. They could never have their side of the ball dialed in the whole season. After analyzing this season deeply I saw that both BJ and AG lost 7 games each for the this year. The Lions were lucky enough that none of those bad performances showed up at the same time during the regular season resulting in only 2 official losses. Unfortunately, they both put on losing performances in that divisional game and it finally reared its ugly head.
Arron glenn cannot take anyone under contract to the Lions.
Don’t forget qb. Goff had 5 turnovers in his last 2 games in important games he choked. Don’t blame the defense all the way the defense bailed goof 2 interceptions in Vikings game. Could nt bail his 3 interceptions in commanders game
Jeff, give it a break. We wony have a top 5 offense, but we'll get a top 10 offense BUT give it to GIBBS ON 3RD AND 1. And I'm fine with that trade-off. Get off Ben's jockstrap
Why wont we have 5 top offense? It might get better next year. Our players are only developing more
A top 15 defense would make it so that the offense doesn't need to be top 5
@@noorzanayasmin7806better lol they were the best not many teams had a offense like the lions most probably will never have that type of offense production again. That type of offense that was better than good it's was the best in decades for the NFL. Replicating that is impossible but being top 5 is more realistic or top 10
@@noorzanayasmin7806 Yea, who can guarantee we don't have a top 5 offense again?
Go get Ole miss OC Charlie weis jr
It’s a lot of ppl that discredit players in all sports I kind of get it but it also just hating
I hope not. We don't need another offseason shadowed with doubt and questionables like that. One and done for the best run offense vs the worst run defense is twisted. And then the news that came out about Ben and the Bears.. we need someone that stays and are experienced
Benedict Johnson is a traitor. He could’ve went other places then to the Bears total disrespect for Dan Campbell he could’ve went to the Raiders and the Jaguars total disrespect.
No its gonna be hard for Ben to do what happened here in Detroit wit a suck ass team 😂 who said he got hired you dont kno who tf we getting its been two days 😂
“Not to mention”….but then u mention it…smh
Stop with “year in year out” talk…!!! Just say every year ….
This team will not be the same. If they keep that pedestrian of qb will never get a Super Bowl
Staffor said he may want to leave the Rams! Lol. I know that would never happen but a girl can dream
@ yes I’ll take stafford over him quick but I rather get a mobile qb. Last 4 teams standing right now have mobile qbs that tell s you something
You act like we don't have all the plays in the same players. You need to be worried about your boy ben sucking in Chicago with nowhere near the talent. Like what are you talking about? We got all the material
No havent you heard now all of sudden the coach doesnt matter at all its ALL the OC. Andy Reid? Pfft not his team at all.
There’s a reason Ben Johnson didn’t try to bring tanner with him. Might wanna ask ourselves why
A Dam doom and gloom take!! Your saying your tied of seeing certain guys On X say certain things about Ben! We are tired of content makers make videos sounding scared pooh we don't no if tanner isn't Ben uh he isn't Ben maybe he's better!! Smh
Don’t worry, the lions will never win a Super Bowl. The last 2 years….
You Lions fans who are turning on Ben are disgraceful, unloyal, leeches. This dude made your team relevant for 3 years straight. ya'll are crazy for getting bitter for him bettering his life crazy stuff
It's cope lol they will get over it
LOL what? So now an OC "makes a team". So Andy Reid is dogshit its all the OC right? Sean Mcdermott stinks its all the OC. Johnson was overrated because our fans are retarded and the fake news sucked his dick constantly. Its Campbell's system. Somehow the rules are always different for the Lions
You need to realize that some
Of this is about how he went about leaving the Lions to a hated rival, they the fact that he left. The leaving occurs less than 24 hrs after the loss with his staff already partially filled. It leads to speculation as to how focused he was
Because you don’t put together a staff complete with signed contracts less than 2 days after our loss! That is why most people are pissed off
@@sunny7773 gay
@@sunny7773 did Ben Johnson make Gibbs who Gibbs is? No he didn't