@@iiGoatedSnowman Make sure you guys get your lives right with God before its too late and you guys go to Hell. You gotta stop watching porn, cursing, smoking, having sex before marriage, practicing homosexuality, smoking weed, vaping, getting drunk, dressing immodest, showing off your body, lying, and stealing these are some sins that will send vou guys to Hell turn to Jesus Christ and let Him save you before its too late. Get baptized, start reading the Bible, and praying. Start a relationship with Jesus Christ because He's coming back soon and make sure vou know for sure vou would spend eternity with Him and that your not going to Hell by living in sin, we need to start living Holy.
Didn't know 33 10 and 5 on ridiculous efficiency while being one of the best defenders in the league was a here nigga mvp, y'all just get up here and say anything smh
@@jonnstewart2023 when watching him play that’s all it was, was it great of course but it was like he’s simply playing just to win MVP I would take his last year play over this year it was just better
@@WATER_WATERs are you just trolling a bit or you actually don't know his name!? Naaah, I think you're just playing mate 😂 What's "the thing" from "that guy from tha thing" 😂
He named alot of guys like they were bums and everyone he named were very solid role players. Deng was an offensive threat and Noah was a really good defender.
Yeah all that he named except for maybe dunleavy were very solid role players and what made the bulls really great those times was that they had amazing chemistry
idc if you’re a thunder fan i was looking for this comment. Yes bro people just underestimate that season by saying “turnovers” or “stat padding” like KD left and Russ was cooking, i would come home from school and see an alert “Westbrook triple double” every day bro. Love Russy
@@johnerick9541 LeBron lost in the finals in 2018 but that was an S Tier season. Just because he lost first round doesn’t degrade his greatness that season, he broke records and maintained a top eight position
Shot bad from the mid range and 3 and was averaging ten free throws a game which is second place after Harden so I'd say A tier because that team was still trash and he played pretty good but at most it's an A tier MVP season his stats get overrated a lot
No he didnt. Joel won it fair and square. Name me one person who took Perkins opinion seriously. Literally no one. All Perkons did was make himself look like a fool. He didnr influence no one to vote Embiid though
@@sixis268 imo it was probably a combination of perkins, phillys late season push, voter fatigue and bitching not all from him crying but yeah he probably didnt deserve it as a philly fan
2017 Russ literally dragged a bag of bones to the playoffs. The most historic regular season in recent memory. Averaged a 30 point triple double, broke the all-time triple double record and was very efficient from the floor (34% on threes). Man was the Scoring Champion, 2nd in Assists, only guard to average double digit rebounds and was the best in the clutch as well. Not to mention that he lead the league in Player Efficiency Rating, VORP and Plus/Minus. Definitely S tier.
Russ and james harden literally had similar stats minus the 2 rebounds... Russ team mates were literally helping him pad stats 🤦 only difference is Hardens team was had more wins
@@Trenacetate43 And? He named six high quality role players. Including a DPOY candidate and a two time all star. Give 2012 Lebron that depth and see if it's not a 70 win team
@@KendySeuss yeah they were 6th seed 🤣u see the squad they had? Curry had a trash squad a few years back and ddint even make the playoffs. He carried that team, and was first in almost every category.
I think Russ MVP year is S tier, not just because of production, but everything surrounding it. KD leaving Russ high and dry, and Russ picking the pieces up and basically putting the team on his back, they made the 7th or 8th seed in a tough ass Western Conference.
@@user-lt5dg1ix6u coz he got 1st seed with the Heat superteam in the conference, D Rose had a trash squad compared to Heat and still got them 1st seed. While also being the youngest MVP in history, D Rose' MVP season is very much slept on coz he didn't have crazy good stats like Russ or very good efficiency like Harden
@aaryasharma4940 i wouldnt say they were a trash squad they obviously werent as good as miami but even those years rose was hurt that bulls team made the playoffs
@@aaryasharma4940 They were NOT a trash squad wtf. And the heat were top heavy their first year. You probably think everyone on the 01 76ers were trash too right?
@@jeremyfuller7730 yeah they were trash compared to Heat back then, Heat were a superteam in the East themselves. Any team at that time would be trash compared to them. Ik the 01 76ers squad they were pretty mid aside from AI and Dikembe, they're probably one of the worst teams to have reached the finals (aside from AI)
Wasn’t anything special it was jus storyline and the narratives that year he was the heart and soul of that team and a fan favorite all around the league even to this day when every away crowd claps for him when he gets in it’s like how could u hate him cuz no one does right but yea no Bron could’ve easily won it that year
@@patrickravert4261st seeded team with Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer, and Taj Gibson, Keith Bogans while the Lebron led superteam heat were playing in the same conference. Rose was definitely something special
@@SagaTheFunniest bro WHO CARES BOUT NUMBER 1 SEED I fuckin hate u mfs that put that into consideration AT ALL in terms of who the most valuable PLAYER is not most valuable team dickwad and no one cares he had a bunch of bums on his team, he had a storyline we all love u type of MVP season, Bron and the others they put above derrick’s mvp year tops his easily
@@jameznetzel4808 he's the reason why bulls was the 1st seed against miami with Wade and Lebron. After D.rose got injured, Bulls fell off hard and Jimmy had to step up his game since Rose missed like 2-3 seasons because of the Injury, but never was the same compared to MVP D.Rose.
Realistically speaking, DRose probably the weakest MVP winner in the last 15 years. I'd take every single MVP winner from 2009 to 2023 over him in a draft. Bulls had the best defense in the league that year and Thibs coaching who always squeezes extra effort and wins in the RS. That allowed the Bulls to win 62 games which was the foundation for Rose winning MVP... Otherwise, LeBron, Drik and Dwight were all comfortably better players at the time. Wade too, but he shared credit with Bron. CP3 also better, just one a garbage team.
Anchored his teams defense and put up 33 10 and 5 on good efficiency but because the person they wanted to win didn’t get it, it’s cuz of narrative man foh
@@cb2253 don’t forget his team won without him a bunch of times he still flops and getting lots of free throws (learning from the best) and fell of hard during the playoffs even after he got the reward buddy cried for one and finally got one
@@cb2253"anchored his teams defense," the 76ers were 11-5 without Embiid. It seems like they were doing pretty damn good without him. Keep coping bro, we know Embiid is on fraud watch now.
Embiid’s mvp is definitely over hated. Like that man actually balled in the regular season. If he went on to win the championship, no one would’ve said anything negative. Remember when people said Jokic did not deserve his first 2 mvps? Then all of sudden after he won the championship, he deserved everything. Most of you nba fans are casuals
exactly bro the embiid hate is so corny. A bunch of people who know nothing abt ball like to bitch abt someone winning mvp cuz of the team he plays for. Embiid wouldnt get this hate if he played for any other team
@@PhantomSailor513 well nobody else has done it since or before. All the highest usage rate seasons are recent too. Harden, Luka, Giannis, 06 Kobe, Joel, Cousins, Wade. Why didn't they do it?
Russ in 2017 put on what is arguably the best career regular season by a 6’3 guard ever averaging a 30 point TRIPLE DOUBLE … Steph wasn’t even doing that. That Russ MVP year was an immaculate performance. This is coming from someone who could care less about OKC being a Hawks fan and an eastern conference fan, but I loved that Russ season in 2017.
Luol Deng was averaging 18 and 8. Carlos Boozer was coming off all star seasons putting up 23 and 12, Noah was DPOY and crazy. He also had rip Hamilton etc. those bulls teams were stacked.
Noah and Deng being your second and third best players in a luxery,those guys were so intense on defence i have lot of respect for those 10s bulls teams
Embiid had better teammates then the Giannis and Jokic and both them had better advanced stats than him, plus he flops too much Jokic and Giannis were more valuable to their team than Embiid since the 76ers still won games when he was hurt while the Nuggets and Bucks didn’t
Everybody they named was solid. And he literally forgot Carlos boozer. I think their memory is just bad or they wasn't really watching bulls basketball like that
@@elijahwilliams3728 they're good because of MVP rose. After MVP rose, Taj Gibson is the only one left in the league out of those 4 (kirk retired so not included) being a decent role player and veteran for the knicks.
@@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Noah was a mvp candidate when rose was hurt and got old deng was bucket who also had good season till he also got old, Gibson was a good role player that got you around 10 and 7 a game hinrich wasn’t on the team but was a year prior and was another solid player dunleavy is the only one who was not solid during that time
No one got respect for embiid. One of the most dominant scoring seasons in NBA history got give him credit. Should be A or B have no clue where you got C tier from.
Embiid basically cried his way to getting that MVP 🤣🤣 Who in the world would respect him for that? He's also a free throw merchant who flops instead of using his size to dominate his opponents. Literally NOTHING about him is respectable 🤣🤣
@@IDK-0402u dont know shit lmfao. He literally uses his size to draw fouls which makes his dominant goofy 😂. Stop bitchin that he plays smart winning basketball
Normally, I'm shittin on Westbrick, but to not acknowledge Westbrook's MVP as arguably the greatest MVP season is crazy. It has the story of KD leaving, he was the first to average a triple double since the Big O, and he won the scoring title as well if I remember correctly
You guys forgetting that Joakim Noah won a DPOY (was 4th in MVP voting that yr and 1st all nba team) and he also made 3x all defensive teams, those Knicks years were tragic but he was really good in Chicago
Instead of naming DRose' teammate, name DRose's compeittion Aging 08 Celtic, Young OKC Big 3, Miami Big 3, Laker that just won, TimDuncan Spur dynasty, Dirk's Mav. DRose's teammate that year was very solid and productive.
Bro the players nowadays are way better then the player back in the early 2000s like imagine calling embiid c when he averaged more than rose on better efficiency and had way better defense
Idc what y’all say. Embiid averaged 33 points per game when he won MVP so that should be a A tier at least. Like how many players can do that for a season.
The thing about derrick roses season that doesnt get talked abt too, is the argument against stats, but the pace of the game then was sooo low compared to more recent mvps and mvps pre 1994
Stfu Embiid fan talking about hate xD.Joke is haveing one of most historic postseasons and noone is talking.34 12 9 on 62 from floor an 72 ts.And you guys talk about hate lol.
DRose MVP was A tier at least. It was his breakout year and he won all his matchups against great point guards on different teams AND always showed out vs Miami. I still remember that layup on both LeBron and DWade
I think they underrated Embiid. Its easily a B, he was MVP level the past 3 years. Does kind of feel like they gave it too him because he deserved it other years, but it was a good year and he stayed healthy. Should be a B atleast.
Embid is European, giannis is European wtf are you talking bout... if you wanna make the argument just be bold and say they dint want a white guy being the best player in a league
@@colbyryans1018 you know what I meant by European dawg. It's not where you're from but on how you look and act. Embiid is as American as an American can be. Jokic acts, talks, looks the opposite.
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@@iiGoatedSnowman Make sure you guys get your lives right with God before its too late and you guys go to Hell. You gotta stop watching porn, cursing, smoking, having sex before marriage, practicing homosexuality, smoking weed, vaping, getting drunk, dressing immodest, showing off your body, lying, and stealing these are some sins that will send vou guys to Hell turn to Jesus Christ and let Him save you before its too late. Get baptized, start reading the Bible, and praying. Start a relationship with Jesus Christ because He's coming back soon and make sure vou know for sure vou would spend eternity with Him and that your not going to Hell by living in sin, we need to start living Holy.
derrick rose a B what!!!
each of you get off social media immediately!!!!!
When he started naming a bunch of D Rose’s team mates I died 🤣🤣
Its all facts though. He led those guys to 1 seed. Lebron had a much better team too so that season is at least an A.
Same🤣🤣🤣
He only won because voters didn’t want to give it to Lebron again.
@@patrickfinnegan7489 fr lebron was gonna 5-peat mvps
@@patrickfinnegan7489 true true
Joel Embiid got the “Here nigga damn” MVP
Should’ve just given him a participation trophy fs
@@kumimukimuit basically was
Didn't know 33 10 and 5 on ridiculous efficiency while being one of the best defenders in the league was a here nigga mvp, y'all just get up here and say anything smh
@@jonnstewart2023 when watching him play that’s all it was, was it great of course but it was like he’s simply playing just to win MVP I would take his last year play over this year it was just better
😂😂
Man after Joakim i felt like he was making up names 😂
Luol deng!??? 😂😂
@@506Edai whol dang
But he wasn't 😂😂😂
@@WATER_WATERsu dont know luol deng?
@@WATER_WATERs are you just trolling a bit or you actually don't know his name!? Naaah, I think you're just playing mate 😂
What's "the thing" from "that guy from tha thing" 😂
"JOAKIM NOAH"
"LOUL DENG"
"TAJ GIBSON"
"KIRK HEINRICH"
"MIKE DUNLAVY"
He just kept going💀
All good players except Mike
@@jeremyfuller7730 Taj and Kirk are the definition of mid
@@dontavious996 he also had Joakim Noah who was a DPOY candidate constantly
@@jeremyfuller7730 Joakim Noah is a 6'11 Draymond
lakers almost traded kobe for luol deng and pieces. Kobe apparently vetoed the trade because he didn't want to play on the bulls if luol wasn't there.
“Kirk Heinrich” 💀
I know his daughter😂😂😂
Kirk Heinrich was actuality pretty good, but the point is valid
Who?
@@BUCKS12 casual
@@BUCKS12 decent vet at the time
Someone give d rose the a tier 😭😭😭 HE WAS BEGGING FOR HELP
Ong 😂
S tier d rose. He was amazing
He wasnt begging for help that team was monstrous defensively
Begging for help on offense but they were successful in the regular season because of their defense and that was _not_ because of him.
@@thecitizen6860 the glazing is crazy
The revisionism of Joakim Noah is crazy, he was elite
For about 2 season then bro fell of hard 😭
@@tonyis_lit1137 injuries
@@tonyis_lit1137you can say the same about d rose bruh 😭
He named alot of guys like they were bums and everyone he named were very solid role players. Deng was an offensive threat and Noah was a really good defender.
Noah was a all nba first team player when on the bulls and deng was an all star too lol
Yeah all that he named except for maybe dunleavy were very solid role players and what made the bulls really great those times was that they had amazing chemistry
They were all stars because of Derrick Rose, not the other way around.
Yea but not first seed tier players
They were role players starting on a 1 seed team
Bruh 2017 Russ is definitely s tier. Bro averaged a 30 point triple double and had the most efficient year of his career
idc if you’re a thunder fan i was looking for this comment. Yes bro people just underestimate that season by saying “turnovers” or “stat padding” like KD left and Russ was cooking, i would come home from school and see an alert “Westbrook triple double” every day bro. Love Russy
And then he lost on the first round of the Playoffs. But if it was regular season only, definitely S.
@@johnerick9541 LeBron lost in the finals in 2018 but that was an S Tier season. Just because he lost first round doesn’t degrade his greatness that season, he broke records and maintained a top eight position
Shot bad from the mid range and 3 and was averaging ten free throws a game which is second place after Harden so I'd say A tier because that team was still trash and he played pretty good but at most it's an A tier MVP season his stats get overrated a lot
@@3ikyy how do you overrate averaging a triple double? Name 5 other players to ever do that
Jokic got robbed of his 3rd MVP
Cappp
To be honest, Joker should not have won last year so it evens out.
@@yeandtravis nah
Okay but how many mvps was Jordan snubbed on earlier in his career because the lakers had overall a better team which got magic the mvp or Jordan
@@wintercold8634 are u fr saying the sixers are better than the nuggets?
Kendrick Perkins won the MVP for Joel Embiid
No he didnt. Joel won it fair and square. Name me one person who took Perkins opinion seriously. Literally no one. All Perkons did was make himself look like a fool. He didnr influence no one to vote Embiid though
@@anonymousperson3023 Joel deserved it but there is one guy in Denver who deserved it more.
@@anonymousperson3023 Joel won it because he’s been bitching about it for 3 years now. They gave it to him out of pity.
It's not called Most Valuable (to) Perkins without a reason
@@sixis268 imo it was probably a combination of perkins, phillys late season push, voter fatigue and bitching not all from him crying but yeah he probably didnt deserve it as a philly fan
2017 Russ literally dragged a bag of bones to the playoffs. The most historic regular season in recent memory. Averaged a 30 point triple double, broke the all-time triple double record and was very efficient from the floor (34% on threes). Man was the Scoring Champion, 2nd in Assists, only guard to average double digit rebounds and was the best in the clutch as well.
Not to mention that he lead the league in Player Efficiency Rating, VORP and Plus/Minus.
Definitely S tier.
Do NOT forget Steven Adams’s bro
@@shoeisk Adams was good but not good enough to bring the team to the playoffs by himself
@@MikeMulahMusic but he still contributed a lot to the team
@@shoeisk yea, Russ still carried tho
Russ and james harden literally had similar stats minus the 2 rebounds... Russ team mates were literally helping him pad stats 🤦 only difference is Hardens team was had more wins
Donavan speaking facts on this one
Everybody he named on Rose team was actually good at that time 😂
Especially Noah and Deng.
Right that's why i ws confused lol
They re good but aren’t allstar calibers. Joakim Noah & Taj Gibson. That’d be like Jaret Allen and Dario Saric today.
@@Trenacetate43 And? He named six high quality role players. Including a DPOY candidate and a two time all star. Give 2012 Lebron that depth and see if it's not a 70 win team
As a bulls fan I felt that but hey that’s my childhood so I love them guys lmaooo
Dunleavy and Kirk wasn’t even on the team. He should’ve said Keith Bogams and Boozer. He disrespected deng and Noah
@@tmac731 right? Noah was a defensive beast.
Mans reading the Bulls roster.😂😂😂
Ay man joakim was a dawg 😂😂
When he started naming other players on the bull made my die😂😂😂😂😂
That Russ MVP is definitely S tier
frrr
No harden was better that year B tier for sure
@@nickpeitchev7763 31 ppg trible double ..
Yep
@@evskier6246 centers letting Russ get the rebound
Those guys on the Bulls were really good players and he was roasting them😂
Russ's MVP season is underrated
It’s perfectly rated
It is properly rated
It should be S tier bruh what? He’s a POINT GUARD standing at 6’3 that averaged a triple double in a whole season that’s definitely S tier
They were a 6 seed that year. He deserves the MVP because they were ass but 6 seed MVP is A
@@KendySeuss yeah they were 6th seed 🤣u see the squad they had? Curry had a trash squad a few years back and ddint even make the playoffs. He carried that team, and was first in almost every category.
I think Russ MVP year is S tier, not just because of production, but everything surrounding it. KD leaving Russ high and dry, and Russ picking the pieces up and basically putting the team on his back, they made the 7th or 8th seed in a tough ass Western Conference.
The D. Rose disrespect is crazy
Bro I was dying , when Donovan started naming d Rose's teammate 😭
Luol Deng is crazy😂😭
Why is it crazy?
@@user-lt5dg1ix6u coz he got 1st seed with the Heat superteam in the conference, D Rose had a trash squad compared to Heat and still got them 1st seed. While also being the youngest MVP in history, D Rose' MVP season is very much slept on coz he didn't have crazy good stats like Russ or very good efficiency like Harden
@aaryasharma4940 i wouldnt say they were a trash squad they obviously werent as good as miami but even those years rose was hurt that bulls team made the playoffs
@@aaryasharma4940 They were NOT a trash squad wtf. And the heat were top heavy their first year. You probably think everyone on the 01 76ers were trash too right?
@@jeremyfuller7730 yeah they were trash compared to Heat back then, Heat were a superteam in the East themselves. Any team at that time would be trash compared to them. Ik the 01 76ers squad they were pretty mid aside from AI and Dikembe, they're probably one of the worst teams to have reached the finals (aside from AI)
MVP Derrick Rose deserves more respect man :(
he was something so fucking special man
Wasn’t anything special it was jus storyline and the narratives that year he was the heart and soul of that team and a fan favorite all around the league even to this day when every away crowd claps for him when he gets in it’s like how could u hate him cuz no one does right but yea no Bron could’ve easily won it that year
He was unstoppable idk why they act like it wasn’t all that
@@patrickravert4261st seeded team with Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer, and Taj Gibson, Keith Bogans while the Lebron led superteam heat were playing in the same conference. Rose was definitely something special
@@SagaTheFunniest bro WHO CARES BOUT NUMBER 1 SEED I fuckin hate u mfs that put that into consideration AT ALL in terms of who the most valuable PLAYER is not most valuable team dickwad and no one cares he had a bunch of bums on his team, he had a storyline we all love u type of MVP season, Bron and the others they put above derrick’s mvp year tops his easily
D rose at B is outrageous, they really forgetting how good he was before the injury
compared to other mvps, he wasn’t anything special
@@jameznetzel4808 thank u I literally said this under someone else comment talking bout d rose should’ve been higher
@@jameznetzel4808 he's the reason why bulls was the 1st seed against miami with Wade and Lebron. After D.rose got injured, Bulls fell off hard and Jimmy had to step up his game since Rose missed like 2-3 seasons because of the Injury, but never was the same compared to MVP D.Rose.
Realistically speaking, DRose probably the weakest MVP winner in the last 15 years. I'd take every single MVP winner from 2009 to 2023 over him in a draft.
Bulls had the best defense in the league that year and Thibs coaching who always squeezes extra effort and wins in the RS. That allowed the Bulls to win 62 games which was the foundation for Rose winning MVP...
Otherwise, LeBron, Drik and Dwight were all comfortably better players at the time. Wade too, but he shared credit with Bron. CP3 also better, just one a garbage team.
25 and 7…
Speaking facts about Embiid
Cap man
Anchored his teams defense and put up 33 10 and 5 on good efficiency but because the person they wanted to win didn’t get it, it’s cuz of narrative man foh
@@cb2253 don’t forget his team won without him a bunch of times he still flops and getting lots of free throws (learning from the best) and fell of hard during the playoffs even after he got the reward buddy cried for one and finally got one
@@cb2253"anchored his teams defense," the 76ers were 11-5 without Embiid. It seems like they were doing pretty damn good without him. Keep coping bro, we know Embiid is on fraud watch now.
@@chrishansen8119you didn’t prove anything you goofy
Embiid’s mvp is definitely over hated. Like that man actually balled in the regular season. If he went on to win the championship, no one would’ve said anything negative. Remember when people said Jokic did not deserve his first 2 mvps? Then all of sudden after he won the championship, he deserved everything. Most of you nba fans are casuals
exactly bro the embiid hate is so corny. A bunch of people who know nothing abt ball like to bitch abt someone winning mvp cuz of the team he plays for. Embiid wouldnt get this hate if he played for any other team
Noah was a monster with rose tho 😹😹
Russ def S tier it was historic
Historically bad, dude had the highest usage rate of all time of course hes gonna put up those numbers
@@PhantomSailor513 well nobody else has done it since or before. All the highest usage rate seasons are recent too. Harden, Luka, Giannis, 06 Kobe, Joel, Cousins, Wade. Why didn't they do it?
Nah Russ MVP is C tier or below. I like Russ but he just stat padded and had all the help in the world around him
Every bull he named my "facts" got louder lmaaooo
Jokic shoulda been 2023 mvp
No just no i could see antokopo but def not jokic
@@KingAWC 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Good to see these dudes laughing together..swear when they first started the channel they hated each other 😂
Joakim Noah was sooo damn good back then. People forget because he fell off so fast but dude was a monster
ive never seen them make a peefect video, this is the first! 👏🏼
Bro was casually flaming Joakim Noah.
the russ disrespect is crazy. Bro was averaging TRIPLE DOUBLES
Joel cried for thr MVP and Perk helped him cry for it. Now with the pressure on him, Joel gives us 15 pts in a crucial game 7
joel didnt cry for shit lmao
Russ in 2017 put on what is arguably the best career regular season by a 6’3 guard ever averaging a 30 point TRIPLE DOUBLE … Steph wasn’t even doing that. That Russ MVP year was an immaculate performance.
This is coming from someone who could care less about OKC being a Hawks fan and an eastern conference fan, but I loved that Russ season in 2017.
Westbrook deserved S. he single handedly carried OKC
good video thanks for your happyness
Bro throwing out D Roses’ teammates out as it it was a competition for who could talk the fastest
Luol Deng is one of my favorite mid-tier players to throw out 😂😂
Embiid season is so much better than d roses mvp season, just cause Jokic should have won it, doesn’t mean Embiid wasn’t good either
You guys are the goat!!!! Love your videos 🔥🔥🔥
Bro Donovan was trying to do anything to give Drose A🤣
"MIkE DunLEaVY" lmao
Joel C is absolutely wild
Nah he a FRAUD
Bro Don''s been cracking me up lately god damn
Luol Deng was averaging 18 and 8. Carlos Boozer was coming off all star seasons putting up 23 and 12, Noah was DPOY and crazy. He also had rip Hamilton etc. those bulls teams were stacked.
Noah and Deng being your second and third best players in a luxery,those guys were so intense on defence i have lot of respect for those 10s bulls teams
I was dying when Don just started spitting out D Rose’s teammates😂
JOAKIM NOAH
LUOL DENG
TAJ GIBSON
KIRK HEINRICH
MIKE DUNLEAVY
Embiid kinda underrated man. His numbers are insane.
Sympathy award.
Great numbers, but jokic had better.
Embiid had better teammates then the Giannis and Jokic and both them had better advanced stats than him, plus he flops too much
Jokic and Giannis were more valuable to their team than Embiid since the 76ers still won games when he was hurt while the Nuggets and Bucks didn’t
When Don said Mike I lost my shit
Unless my memory is bad. I remember Kirk being a dog for the Bulls. He wasnt blowing the doors off, but he was a solid bench player.
Everybody they named was solid. And he literally forgot Carlos boozer. I think their memory is just bad or they wasn't really watching bulls basketball like that
@@elijahwilliams3728 they're good because of MVP rose. After MVP rose, Taj Gibson is the only one left in the league out of those 4 (kirk retired so not included) being a decent role player and veteran for the knicks.
@@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 they was mostly old. Carlos boozer was a beast in the jazz
@@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Noah was a mvp candidate when rose was hurt and got old deng was bucket who also had good season till he also got old, Gibson was a good role player that got you around 10 and 7 a game hinrich wasn’t on the team but was a year prior and was another solid player dunleavy is the only one who was not solid during that time
Isaac out here getting possessed when don started naming players 💀😭
No one got respect for embiid. One of the most dominant scoring seasons in NBA history got give him credit. Should be A or B have no clue where you got C tier from.
Embiid basically cried his way to getting that MVP 🤣🤣 Who in the world would respect him for that? He's also a free throw merchant who flops instead of using his size to dominate his opponents. Literally NOTHING about him is respectable 🤣🤣
@@IDK-0402u dont know shit lmfao. He literally uses his size to draw fouls which makes his dominant goofy 😂. Stop bitchin that he plays smart winning basketball
Nah they did Drose dirty. He won that MVP for playing in a style we never seen before from a point guard.
The disrespect for my boy Drose is crazy
Normally, I'm shittin on Westbrick, but to not acknowledge Westbrook's MVP as arguably the greatest MVP season is crazy. It has the story of KD leaving, he was the first to average a triple double since the Big O, and he won the scoring title as well if I remember correctly
You can tell who really knows the sport on this podcast😂
None of them
@@jeremyfuller7730 Facts
@jeremyfuller7730 Nah, they're way more knowledgeable compared to casuals who just d rides players because of nostalgia
Just for the fact he mentioned Perkins MVP bullshit subscribed
Bro wants DRose on 24 ppg and 6 assists higher than Embiid who was 32 12 and 4 as well as being the anchor defensively? Okay buddy….
A across the board because they are MVPs and triple double russ year is S this list wild
Finally people are admitting that embiid only won the mvp award because he cried his way into it.
You guys forgetting that Joakim Noah won a DPOY (was 4th in MVP voting that yr and 1st all nba team) and he also made 3x all defensive teams, those Knicks years were tragic but he was really good in Chicago
Jojo deserves at least S their
I’m totally not a sizers fan😏
Instead of naming DRose' teammate, name DRose's compeittion Aging 08 Celtic, Young OKC Big 3, Miami Big 3, Laker that just won, TimDuncan Spur dynasty, Dirk's Mav. DRose's teammate that year was very solid and productive.
Embiid averaged 33ppg as a center 😂
Cmon now. At least an A
he argued when it comes to d rose.
the moment embiid was mention, he lead the conversation. 😂🤣
Joel got a PITY MVP
I dont care what sport it is theres no such thing as a pity mvp. You either the best in the leage or not
@@KingAWC Its a pity MVP because he's definitely not the best in the league.
@@potatovine who better maybe giannis but that it
@@KingAWC You are a clown, so by this logic Karl Malone was the best in the league in 1997 over Jordan?👀
@@99BullD i honestly dont care i just like starting drauma also 6ers fan so im very bias. Plus im already a clown 🤡
Funniest part was the middle
So embiid can average more scoring that anyone here in their prime and has better defence than anyone here but is C
Steph Curry?
All that to still be the 2nd best player lol
😂 too funny Kirk 😂😂
Bro the players nowadays are way better then the player back in the early 2000s like imagine calling embiid c when he averaged more than rose on better efficiency and had way better defense
@Hi. I mean I don't know about that I would say those two both deserved it but I do think that jokic is the best offensive player in the NBA
Russ gotta be S tier, its universally recognized as a top 15 season ever
Idc what y’all say. Embiid averaged 33 points per game when he won MVP so that should be a A tier at least. Like how many players can do that for a season.
sure his numbers are "special", but if we're talking about most valuable then it's not him
@@user-zk3wh9kk5rthe only person better than him i could see is giannis
@@KingAWC jokic is still the most valuable, it's literally in the name, if it's best then shaq, kob, bron, mike & some other legends would've won more
yea well not this season it dosent matter now
The thing about derrick roses season that doesnt get talked abt too, is the argument against stats, but the pace of the game then was sooo low compared to more recent mvps and mvps pre 1994
Crazy how 33 points on 65% ts while anchoring your teams defence is a c
Dude barely won the MVP and only because of voters fatigue
@@Mixantropaz doesn't matter who won, all three of them had an all time great season, it would've been an amazing mvp regardless
If jokic got it this year it wouldve been A tier at least.
The Embiid hate is disgusting. 33/10 on 65% TS,...SMFH. At least the integrity to respect that it is an MVP-worthy season.
Stfu Embiid fan talking about hate xD.Joke is haveing one of most historic postseasons and noone is talking.34 12 9 on 62 from floor an 72 ts.And you guys talk about hate lol.
I agree with you man people be hating on Joel embiid
😢😢😢
Don't forget anchoring the sixers defense too
Say that to the media, they made it sour even.if Embiid really deserves it
DRose MVP was A tier at least. It was his breakout year and he won all his matchups against great point guards on different teams AND always showed out vs Miami. I still remember that layup on both LeBron and DWade
Let’s be real, LeBron pretty much has a MVP season each year he plays
Drose Shii was definitely a tier
I think they underrated Embiid. Its easily a B, he was MVP level the past 3 years. Does kind of feel like they gave it too him because he deserved it other years, but it was a good year and he stayed healthy. Should be a B atleast.
Luol Deng and Kirk Heinrich were great 🥲
in what literal world is joel embiid below derrick rose for mvp, didn’t know a 33/10/4 season while leading a top defense was a bad mvp season
Ngl Donovan Right, being the one seed when your second best player is a Joakim Noah who isn’t even in his prime yet is insane
Embiid averaged the best stats out of anyone here and y’all gave him a b or a c you’re fcking tripping
Bro named Joakim Noah like he wasn’t a defensive PROBLEM that year
Joel in his MVP years clears Derrick Rose’s
Not even a little bit
Bro naming off DRoses teammates like they werent cold back in the day
They gave Embiid that trophy man, they don't want no "European players are better" debate.
Embid is European, giannis is European wtf are you talking bout... if you wanna make the argument just be bold and say they dint want a white guy being the best player in a league
@@colbyryans1018 is not joel an African?
@@colbyryans1018 you know what I meant by European dawg. It's not where you're from but on how you look and act. Embiid is as American as an American can be. Jokic acts, talks, looks the opposite.
@@colbyryans1018 I see someone failed geography class 😂😂 Yao Ming was "european" too I guess😂😂
@@stachpema452 some folks just be talking to talk 😂
Joakim Noah was a dawg back in those early 2010s. DPOY and 4th in MVP votes
You can’t disrespect embiid like that
“Mike Dunleavy” is a crazy pull 💀
Russ mvp season not s tier is crazy asf
Stat padding because everyone knows it
not taking anything from Russ however, it’s just that’s what it was
not having 2017 Russ as S tier is absolutely wild