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My Cousin Reacts to our White Passing Grandmother
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2024
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Our great grandmother Lola tried to pass for white when she left Louisiana for NY. She raised our grandmother, Marion, to keep our family story hidden. Alicia and I talk about "Finding Lola" one year later.
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Come join me on a new docu-series that explores identity, racial tensions in the South during the 20th century, and the unique experiences of those who historically called Louisiana home.
My name is Danielle Romero, and all my life, I have romanticized Louisiana.
Growing up in New York, it represented a place where I could step back the sepia-toned life of my great grandmother, Lola Perot, who died before I was born.
Now, it was time to go back to Louisiana--although I had no idea what the truth would be or what questions to ask---who was Lola really? Who were we?
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!!! I thought so thank you for your amazing work sending love
Never mind, read your answer further down. Shocking when they remove videos.
I wondered what happened to it!
Wow, glad I got to see it when it was up.
I grew up in Louisiana and dated someone whose family came from Pitkin LA.
Her mom did family research looking for Indian ancestry. Some ofbthe things you talked about she experienced. Remember her saying that all she could find was people registering as white because they were afraid if getting their property taken. My Ex said her mom came across that they had Black Ancestry.
Now her mom and dad are distant cousins, but where they are from is a small community. My EX last name was Markle her mom was a Willis. Her mom's mom was Johnson. They use to have 3 family reunion every year.
Her mom did find black ancestry in there family history and she told my exs dad he told her to shut up didn't want to hear any more about it.
Remembering being aroud her family you could tell they had some Indian in them. Her mom had abjoke saying they couldn't go to Mexico because they were afraid they wouldn't be aloud back for being mistaken for Mexican.
Also my ex told me one of her ancestors stated a church called Occupy 1 in Pitkin LA. She said he was suppose to be black and Indian mixed. He was a Willis if I'm not mistaken, been a long time.Also I only heard the Term redbone once someone I worked with used it about people in Pitkin that there were a lot of redbone people there.
Her mom did inspire me to look into my family history and found some good stories and found one of my grandfather's cousins that I got to meet.
I appreciate it so much
People don’t want to talk about the race thing because it’s a very deep look inside yourself and then things have to admit to yourself about all the bias and misconceptions about black peoples or being in the bloodline of Africans no matter how light or dark one may be!!
That part. It's not an easy conversation for some people. My late father grew up in Louisiana as a Sharecropper, and his stories would make me cry. Trauma 😢
@@AuthorLHollingsworth it’s designed to be shamed into silence for life!! Which is very sinister no matter how you look at it!!
@AuthorLHollingsworth You should try growing up white in the hood, having to fight every day because some people raise their children to be violent and dislike whites. Nobody cares about them, only the poor poc can be mistreated... I can't even write anything on here without being censored. They cover your ears from the truth.
The simple story is who decided to pass for WHITE in this racist society. Which is an understandable reaction to the horrors of anti Black America. And who got RAPED BY WHICH WHITE MAN
There were a lot of white slaves in LA. The boat owners made the work off their ticket for 1-3 years - and then find a way to keep them in slavery for years. With blacks, it was so horrible - because every child born to a woman was automatically owned by the slave owner.
I am black and I have several bi racial cousins. Most of my half black/half white cousins married white and their children look simply white. Only difference is they know their grandpa or father or mom is black. This is America and it's not as uncommon as folks may think. It's just sad that that fact was hidden and don't want to be addressed
As black Americans being of mixed race is something we know about from when we are young. We know this because of slavery and the rape of black women during slavery. So we always had to come to grips that we are of mixed race. Add to the fact the normal race mixing through marriage post slavery in our families.
Also we have to acknowledge the racial dynamic. It’s far more likely non blacks in the past would deny they have a distant black relative. To acknowledge that they had a distant black relative and had “black blood” could cost them to lose opportunities and becoming outcast in America within their communities and within white communities
I have cousins who have passed for white 2-3 generations ago. They are meeting me through DNA testing. My mother decided to remain black. Oddly enough, those who communicate with me are not doing any better than I am in life, financially, emotionally or otherwise due to "passing" generations ago. I still move freely in circles of all ethnicities, including white.
That is interesting. We would think passing white and marrying white means a better economic level
@@emfarah3758 I agree, that really surprised me!
There are plenty of pure white people living in trailer parks@@emfarah3758
It's disturbing her cousin still thinks "The South is full of racists and slave owners, to this day." She is a bigot.
Really interesting! That’ll be a great thesis!
I’m 70 and vividly remember when Dr. King died. My parents & grandparents generation hid things out of pain & fear . They didn’t want to be judged. They wanted their kids to be safe. The whole thing is sad. We missed out on a lot.
Regarding "Asian" Russians: it is generally the native Siberiaks (those from Siberia) who have the Asian countenance. They comprise of various tundra groups.
On that note I randomly caught an interesting angle of my reflection the other day. As descendant of Genghis Khan I don't exactly notice some hard resemblance as a Black man. But, the other day I noticed him in my blood during a glimpse of me looking up at myself through my phone. The eyes, skin tone, beard and everything. For a moment it was like looking directly at an ancestor.
When you see a man with dreads and think, "Maybe he has a Ph D," you have made progress.
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That's what I'm more likely to think but I live in London UK 😂
@@jimiwhat79Who cares 😂😂😂 you apparently because if didn’t care or really didn’t care wouldn’t trolled yourself Bobo 😂😂😂😂
Well, that wouldn't be the first thing to come to mind. I guess if he were dressed in a nice professional shirt and slacks, maybe. But not if his clothes were too big and his pants were hanging off his butt with his underwear showing. I come from an era when people took pride in their appearance and an educated person of any race would look the part. I don't know why a professional would want to emulate a thug. My husband, a Hispanic Engineer, gets a haircut every two weeks and wears slacks and a button-down shirt in an office where jeans are now allowed. Nobody is going to mistake him for the janitor or the lawn service.
@@rroadmap thank god we live in a time where the content of someone's character and their diction is more important than how they dress
We live in the age of the internet. you shouldn't rely on someone's clothes to decide if you're going to listen to them or not; we should be intelligent enough to know if what they say is worth getting involved with.
Part of why I LOVE this channel so much...we can all talk about this subject of race, & abhorrence racist past events, without getting offended, because it's all just truth, & most of us ARE just trying to be better people when it comes to racial biases, profiling, & going against how we were raised to think about other races. When I was a child, (I'm mostly white, German & many others in the mix), I had a black friend in kindergarten named Dewayne, & I just loved him because he was SO funny! So at home, I was always talking about my friend Dewayne & the funny things he did at school that day. When Dad found out he was black, I could tell he was uncomfortable that my little "boyfriend" was black. All during my raising, I just knew without talking too much about it, that "mixing" would never be accepted in my family. I never dated any black boys or men, but I always had lots of black, Asian, & white friends, because the public schools I went to were thankfully diverse. Thankfully, by the time I was 30, my Dad's views had changed. Sadly, he passed away soon after I was 30, but I remember him telling me several times, "I don't care WHAT race the man you marry is. I just want you to be HAPPY." That meant SO much to me, that my happiness was always a priority over what my man/bf/husband LOOKED like. My Dad, raised mostly in the SOUTH, in the 40's & 50's, had come such a long way!! I feel most of the country has, but we must still conquer the racists left, together. ❤🤜🏿🤛❤🤜🏾🤛🏼
Beautiful story, thanks for sharing!
I appreciate this so much. I hope I can continue to be blessed enough to remain on the platform and do that.
We had Mexican neighbors and the youngest brothers were about the same age as my sister and I and we were good friends. My Dad sat my sister and I down and gave us a lecture and said he would NOT have a Mexican son-in-law! 🤣 I didn't marry my neighbor, but I did marry a man of Mexican ancestry! I guess never say never! Now at 92-years-old, my father's "Mexican" son-in-law does more for him than his own son and he loves him and is crazy about the mixed-race granddaughter and great-grandchildren we produced. He thinks my granddaughter (who is also part Japanese) is the most amazing child ever born! And he also found out that the wife he's been so crazy about all these years is part Black and he still loves her anyway! People change and our society as a whole has changed. That's what makes it so sad to me when Whites are still accused of all being racists. It's not true and hasn't been for years. But the powers that be want to keep us divided because it's easier to control us that way.
@@rroadmap how even our elders can grow and change for the good of the family and the world. ❤️
Your Grammy looks so FABULOUS!! You and your cousin REALLY resemble!
She was amazing! ♥️♥️
Great post, Danielle!
Your cousin is great. God-centered with boots firmly planted on the ground. I am glad you have an ally like her in your family. I really enjoyed listening and to her. 👍🏼🙏💖 We have to keep digging deeper to find the clogs in our filters and resist the temptation to pick up a playbook.
So true!
@@nytn did you say that your cousin is an author? After watching this, I’m thinking I would like to read a book written by her. And the same thing is true of you! If you ever write a book about your family research and history, I would definitely love to read that book and share it with several others! 💙😍🌻
I find your channel interesting. I'm glad Alicia admitted she has realized she has biases. I appreciate her honesty. I'm not sure she realizes she has quite a few biases. I hope she keeps seeking to learn and understand. Also, to accept.
I agree, I feel most of us do, & we can all strive to be BETTER than we were yesterday, & learn to be & do BETTER! That's part of why I love this channel so much...we can all talk about this subject of race, & past events, without getting offended, because it's all just truth, & most of us ARE just trying to be better people when it comes to racial biases, profiling, & going against how we were raised to think about other races. When I was a child, (I'm mostly white, German & many others in the mix), I had a black friend in kindergarten named Dewayne, & I just loved him because he was SO funny! So at home, I was always talking about my friend Dewayne & the funny things he did at school that day. When Dad found out he was black, I could tell he was uncomfortable that my little "boyfriend" was black. All during my raising, I just knew without talking too much about it, that "mixing" would never be accepted in my family. I never dated any black boys or men, but I always had lots of black, Asian, & white friends, because the public schools I went to were thankfully diverse. Thankfully, by the time I was 30, my Dad's views had changed. Sadly, he passed away soon after I was 30, but I remember him telling me several times, "I don't care WHAT race the man you marry is. I just want you to be HAPPY." That meant SO much to me, that my happiness was always a priority over what my man/bf/husband LOOKED like. My Dad, raised mostly in the SOUTH, in the 40's & 50's, had come such a long way!! I feel most of the country has, but we must still conquer the racists left, together. ❤🤜🏿🤛❤🤜🏾🤛🏼
Great advice for all of us! Thanks for watching
I watched your other video and I think it’s harder for Caucasian people to own their Black roots than it is for African Americans to own their European roots. I did my DNA and wasn’t surprised to see the European ancestry because I knew it was more than likely because of slavery. But it’s not that easy with White folks because there is no explanation. That’s why your story is so interesting. You have a little bit of an understanding (passing). The only thing that did surprise me was that I have Scandinavian, Finnish, Italian, Native American and Nepali ancestry. This is not the typical mix with Black folks. 🤔🙂
Maybe if they lived in New Orleans it is
Idk why I thought this was so funny but this White man on Twitter said his family was what some call ‘Indiana White’ meaning they’d been told all their lives they had a touch of Native (Indian) blood but were really mixed with Black down the line lol. The delusions we make up for ourselves. 🤦🏾♀️
@flblackbutterfly1 My shocking DNA result was the Middle East, North African and Kenyan. The European was not surprising as you stated, that is typical in African American ancestry.
I'm from Louisiana my Grandfather and great Grandmother are Creoles from Natchitoche the Coin coin lineage. Some of us are brown and some white some moved away and passed for white in the pass.
I have loved watching your stories. A few good films you and your cousin should check out are Pinky(starring Jeanne Crain), Immitation of Life(starring Lana Turner) and The Human Stain(starring Anthony Hopkins). They are all movies that focus on Black people who were light enough to pass, and lived their Iives as such. It can give you some insight as to what Lola or your grammie might have been dealing with psychologically. I can also relate to your story from the other side. I am from NYC and I also found ancestors in Natchitoches. However it was as a Black man, and meeting relatives who have been living as White. So, I had to learn that Creole heritage operates on both sides of the color line. There is unfortunately a lot of pain for some that came out of, or within those creole communities.
Also she could watch " A family thing" James earl Jones and Robert Duvall.
I'm very curious to know, how receptive your white family was to you? Danielle's black family seemed like they we're very welcoming of her. I'm wondering if your white family members were kind and accepting or did they pull a Peola?
@@kaleahcollins4567reqlly good movie would also recommend. I passed for white is good too.
Stuck in the middle half white and half black. An outcast and unwanted from both sides of family. Still having an effect 100's of years later. I can't remember the back story but there is such a thing as Black Irish. Maybe from the darker skinned Romans and French conquerors. History is pretty ugly and our ancestors had it a lot worse no matter the colors and countries of origin. Disappointing so much focus on colors and genders in 2024 like it's 1964. "Running a Thousand Miles for Freedom". William and Ellen Craft. Two of the most famous runaway slaves you never heard of. Made it all the way to London England. Not related to my direct family line as far as I could find mostly tradition Scottish Crofters and Farmers. Haven't been able to find out how William has my last name but good for them.
And 'Passing' by Nella Larson. Book and Netflix movie. Also the book "Black like Me".
Well welcome to the family to both of you! Tell your cousin it’s ok to lock your car door whenever a strange man goes by, no matter the ethnicity, I do and I’m African American. 😊
NY is full of weirdos :D
It's disturbing her cousin still thinks "The South is full of racists and slave owners, to this day." She is a bigot.
This comment is so welcoming and sweet! This gives me hope for where we’re going and how we treat each other.❤️
Redbones werent just in the Lou. I'm from Virginia and that's what whites listed us as. A lot of those redbones have Virginia and Georgia, mainly because they were known as some of the harsher breeding states, where a " and subordinate slave will be broken." Both states were known to have a high population of indigenous people. Virginia turn 40% of indigenous people into black people because of their skin tone and thus they turned them into slaves as well, South, and North Carolina also had breeding farms/plantations. French men desired Redbones and some liked those of darker skintone. Often they would visit Virginia because the "women were Golden in color." Just like European men liked the lighter close to white as possible but they also liked the black woman's shape. So they wanted her to have white girl features with the shape of her black or indigenous mother. The English from what I was told by my People used to make fun of the French men by saying they like a little dirt in their bed and willing to pay good for it. My grandmother also had writings from her mother She actually had writing some her mother because her maternal mother couldn't write but her mother wrote it down. My great great maternal grandmother spoke about how redbones would be treated and how they were off and sold for higher prices. She also told me about the quadrant balls where they used to be paraded around and dressed up like doll babies so that the French and the English who both had those parties could "partied around their wealth. She also talked about the abuse they endured too. In fact, when my grandmother's mother was still alive she saw Queen and laughed. Then she fell silent took a big breath and said, "lord please don't let None of my people believe this lie!" Some may have been "nice" but often if a woman did not give in, she would be strapped to a bed and assaulted. She said they would often hurt you places that were unseen. So it definitely was not a fairy tale. And I'm not a triple. I seeing the fact that Queen was assaulted in that movie, but from her writing she said the truth is that they found out that you were passing for white woman and not allowing people to know that you were either a redbone or mulatto the day off in times with torture you for days, weeks and months by themselves or in groups. So you were really taking a chance as a woman if you attempted to pass for white, especially if those African or Indigenous Turtle Island genes came out in a baby. Men who were passer were better off they could always blame the woman. But unless a woman cheated, there's no way a baby should come out brown or dark skinned.
The two of you share so many traits . Very strong genes . Your voices are so similar. ❤
They originally came from Mongolia.
Welcome to the family. Many of us in the African American community always knew we had a tittle be of everyone in our history. The family reunions would have from the color white to the darkest black and all related by blood. This is why especially in the south you should never be racist because down here passing was very prevalent. I love you sharing this with the world. ❤❤
Right. Especially in most of those small towns in Louisiana, everybody is related. Be it you're black, white, Cajun or creole. Most are kinfolk,from the same descendants.
I’m an insurance adjuster and handled lots of claims from there via phone from Indiana. I was so amazed and happy to have so many clients with French last names. I took a little French from 5-8th grade, so it was so fun for me to pronounce their names correctly first try.
I’m an insurance adjuster and handled lots of claims from there via phone from Indiana. I was so amazed and happy to have so many clients with French last names. I took a little French from 5-8th grade, so it was so fun for me to pronounce their names correctly first try.
I’m an insurance adjuster and handled lots of claims from there via phone from Indiana. I was so amazed and happy to have so many clients with French last names. I took a little French from 5-8th grade, so it was so fun for me to pronounce their names correctly first try.
My friend's dad was the oldest of 13 kids. They range from darkest dark to passing.
We have a branch of Creoles who still are afraid to associate with our dark skinned family.
Some of the lighter skinned family, my dad and several cousins won’t mess with the Creoles because of it.
This has gone on for years.
I’ve only met one Creole Louisianan family member because of this.
Also found out MJ and Beyonce are distant cousins through Creole lineage (Beyonce) and through indigenous tribe lineage (MJ).
I knew a Louisiana Creole woman in California who married a dark skinned Nigerian and her family almost disowned her. She was so white appearing her Nigerian husband initially assumed she was white when they first met.
Colorism and racism are heavy within the Creole community. They are very delighted to not see dark skin in their community.
Danielle, I cannot get enough of this dive down the rabbit hole. I long to live in a community surrounded with wonderful people like you and your cousin. Keep 'em coming!
I appreciate this so much!
Just so everyone knows, her cousin isn't "woke" lol
She definitely needs to look up the definition of "woke" as do many people who throw that word around. Lol
I mean how many times does she say that like 3-4 times. I'm like I see you sis lol
To much Fox News
People say woke as if it’s a bad thing. It means to have empathy and compassion for others and make your decisions based upon that knowledge. I have to wonder about the morals and ethics of those who think compassion is bad.
I know!!! Perhaps if she'd grown up in closer proximity to Black culture she'd know it's not a bad thing.
Our ancestors don't know how much they hurt us when they hide our family's past.
People try to live their lives the best way they can. They don't always intend to hurt anyone.
You to remember that just like all people whom aren’t black starting from GW the programming of black is bad started at the wombs of mothers and fathers and all the generations in back of them and even today it seems different but the programming/brainwashing is basically the same !!
Most did it to survive. Especially anyone with black ancestry.
@@brachiator1 that’s not necessarily true in fact it’s a load of bull !! Every person this soil who isn’t a Native American is an immigrant or a descendant of slavery!! However the immigrants act as if they’re the Native Americans and the rest of us are invaders and that’s not not doing the best you can to not “””the others “” or your family members that’s every time they look in the mirror they’re looking at a liar that constantly lives in denial about this soil instead of all us together as a nation making sure no one is homeless or hungry !! However that takes away the whining and a wannabe victim mentality from a certain race of people that doesn’t have color in their pigmentations
I agree but knowing how bad the racial divide was at that time
I’m not sure if I was light enough if
I would choose to pass. My father’s side of the family could have passed but my grandmother was very proud of her mixed heritage and identified as black. I love her either way. Just share my thoughts no conflict. Have a great day.
Your cousin Alicia doesn’t have a good fundamental understanding of nationality and ethnicity and the difference between them. This was clear to me by her description and discussion of her Russian friend who looked “Asian.” She should check a map-most of Russia is in Asia.
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to Alicia just I did hearing from your brother. I gotta say, though, you have some beautiful gene combinations in your family! ❤❤❤
I'm amazed that your brother, (the one who had to leave Italy in his underwear, after he couldn't retrieve his clothes from the Laundromat), isn't being solicited for bookings for shootings at fashion model agencies__ He def. should be someplace between the covers of **GQ/Esquire** magazines. He certainly could be __out there **subsidizing** your family___😮😅😊😊
She said her family is "100%" Russian but many people living in Russian are not 100% "Russian" genetically. It sounds like, at some point, her family intermarried with Mongolians, who would've moved north as she said. Or with Huns or Tartars, who were constantly invading from the steppes. Therefore, some of her DNA would be Asian.... it seems. "Most Russians derive from the Eastern Slavic family of peoples, with Turkic (8.4%), Caucasian (3.3%), Uralic (1.9%) and other minorities."
Indeed - they sure did inherit great genes!!!!!!!!
Majority of Russsia was in habitated by Siberian Asiatic indigenous tribes prior to colonization by slavic Rusians. Not uncommon for white Slavic Russians to have Asian ancestry.
My dad said when he was a child in the mid 50's when he would visit my grandmothers family in Virginia ( the so light they almost white family side ) His mothers first cousins and some of her aunts being that my dad is darkskinned and his sisters are lighter his great aunt when asked would say he was adopted 😢 or he was the child of her maid 😮. My aunt Barbara was the favorite because she was the lightest of the girls with bright red hair and freckles . Many times my grandmother would have to act while traveling to the south like she was just the girls chaperone she was meeting their family at the station / her boss smh those were her children 😔 🤦 . She would have her white pasing cousin come pick them up So they wouldnt be treated badly. My grandmother ( fathers mother) was slighty darker then you Danielle until she got sick with kidney failure in her later years then she became darker. .
I concluded a long time ago that people are the product not just of what they were taught at home but of ideas they encounter and absorb that go unchallenged.
She looks like members of my family who are Louisiana Creoles and mixed with Native American.
You find a lot because people were trying to survive the best they could along with the laws at the time and things have progressed on.
Your cousin seem disbelief in way she got African ancestors and now she facing her own bias which I don't think she really wants to
Honestly be nice & give her time I still have White people in my family that calls the black side “you people”. It’s amazing she even accepts that part of herself or family with how America is. Hell even to talk publicly about it is a step forward alot of people wouldn’t. Coming from a mixed family is hard sometimes & as a Belizean I know this all too well.
@@Bgrk “Give her time.”?? And what exactly does she need time for? Some
of you don’t even see your prejudices and biases-which lead you to easily say ignorant 💩 like this. What does she need time for? She didn’t find out she was part alien or her parents aren’t her parents. She should be happy, if anything. Smh Oh and I wonder what your friend groups and mates look like because you’re giving sooooo much grace to this supposedly smart individual..
@@kic.7679EXACTLY
@@Bgrk SHE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER STOP WITH BE NICE SMH
@@kic.7679 She probably just found out she even has black ancestors when this whole Dna test thing happened. She probably was raised around European Americans her whole life. She probably has alot to work on internally that she didn’t even know yet. Like why she finds “Woke” a bad thing when in reality its not and maybe “WITH TIME”. She can become more educated on the small stuff like that. Like as far as she is concerned she is Irish has been her whole life. All im saying is lets not judge her in the beginning of her journey she probably has some stuff to work through.
But I have a question for you what do you mean by friend & mates? lol like I have a feeling your getting at something there why don’t you enlighten me.
She Kept Her Dark Secret Buried A lot Of People Didn’t Want To Claim A Piece Of Black Blood & Tried To Cover It Up🫢 So Sad
Can you blame them?
a lot of people took the road of white passing for survival: to stay alive
The grotesque nature of racism, often means descendants of Africans, now classed as white, seem almost completely disconnected from its constant dehumanizing horror! This video however is surprisingly inspiring - ancestral spirit is real!
A very interesting conversation. Keep up the good work.
Your cousin is absolutely right. Had they known they would have probably stopped the marriage. Have you read Gail Lukasik’s book? White Like Her.
I really need to
Thank you - I just ordered it!!!
African-American most cases can look at a Caucasian who is mixed we talk among our self but we can tell. It's not our story to tell.
@@elizabethjackson3136I had mentioned that in another comment, & that's just because we have had race be more at the forefront of our lives. So we are aware of it a bit more
I think your grandmother kept her secrets so well because she was taught it could cost her her life. I heard something the other day (because we have friends with mixed kids and grandchildren) from someone in their early 60’s commenting on how far ppl had come. He said that if he had tried to date a black girl in high school his friends would have beat the crap outta him and probably killed her. So if you do the math that was about 45-50 yrs ago , that there were places still very dangerous for black ppl. Even in bigger towns a lot was covered up when it came to racial injustice. So much has changed in the span of your lifetimes, it really is amazing.
Thank you guys for this frank discussion! It's amazing how similar we are when we listen to each other. My AA family is the same with all of the secrets and when I learn more of the history I think 'how could you guys not tell these stories'? We would be so much further along with healing this country.
The only way we will become better Americans is to face some harsh realities of our past no matter how painful these truths may be.
Keep up the great work.
Hahaha, the Russian comment took me out! Has she ever heard of Eurasia? Or the USSR? Or the Silk Road? Lol, the ignorance of Americans as it relates to things like history, geography and geopolitics is astoundingly hilarious. Great channel btw.
You are 100% correct.
@@paulacopeland8360 No. she is not correct. She says the ignorance of Americans as if all Americans are clueless and ignorant. That most certainly is not the case. She paints with a broad brush.
@@beaujac311
I disagree with you. Most Americans don't know American history, let alone world history.
@@paulacopeland8360 She didn't say most or many.
@@beaujac311
Why are you so taken aback by other people's ignorance?
I'm a 64 year old lady from Louisiana. Enjoy your videos...Take care
Awesome! Thank you!
I was thinking the same thing. The majority of Russia is Asian and the population breaks down into White Russia(White) and Red Russia(Asian). The majority of its population are the Red with the minority, White, being the face of the country.
Red Russians and White Russians were designated as such after WWI, during the Russian Revolution.
"The Red Army was a communist, Bolshevik group. The White Army was anti-communist and included many former Tsarist loyalists." I, myself, never heard it described as you have described it, but I'd like to learn more!
I watched your channel before and I really like it, I just want to make one comment black people have to talk about uncomfortable subjects amongst each other all the time no matter what generation, we have to because we live this 24/7
Plus we have to carry the name of a slave owner all our lives.
Yes - but it's the descendants of those who passed for white who are the ones having a hard time discussing/revealing things their family has a right to know.
You made such excellent points. There's no way a white person can ever understand the pain Black people have been going through - and for much longer than many of us white people realize. I now live in St. Augustine, Florida. I went to a lecture once and they showed a map of the houses (not a great many) that were in the center of St. Augustine in the early 1770s - every other house owned slaves!
You can change your surname if it bothers you that much. I know several people who have done this. 💙🌻
Another great video Daneille. Keep them coming.
Thanks so much!
Great conversation with your cousin. I too are curious about my family’s history on both sides. I’m a history buff but are learning about hidden history.
All men are of one blood and one race HUMAN. It's so sad that people feel that they have to hide who they really are.
I still remember my high school classmate in Louisiana. My high school was black and Creole. He moved to California. When he visited Louisiana again he told me he was in LA passing for white. I thought it was funny as hell.
You're right. Most of us could legitimately write "other" on an application, form, or census. The problem is that, even though what you're saying is and has always been obvious, the idea of putting people into racial or ethnic categories has been vitally important. It defines expectations and offers rationalizations for outcomes. There is no interest in or attention paid to "others."
Vitally important to whom? All it does is tell you who’s White and who’s not. The same reason they used to throw Native Americans in the ‘Negro’ or ‘Colored’ category, because it didn’t matter anyway, they weren’t White therefore they didn’t matter. I think they should stop asking that question all together. Let folk have their racial categories for their own personal use and for their personal pride and communities, if they choose to celebrate them. We all got eyes. Lol
Not wanting to talk is usually a sign of not wanting to acknowledge certain things unfortunately.😔
I just found this channel, great content!!
Hey, thanks!
I’m an insurance adjuster and handled lots of claims from Louisiana via phone from Indiana. I was so amazed and happy to have so many clients with French last names. I took a little French from 5-8th grade, so it was so fun for me to pronounce their names correctly first try. (I know….squirrel!)
Have you ever read the story of the little European white girl that was sold as a slave by her family after they landed In Louisiana? She was labeled as black later to make her more valuable for resale. It was a deeply disturbing story to me - but mostly because it gave a lot of details about the laws in La that kept people and their kids in slavery for years. It is so heartbreaking what people do for financial gain.
Fascinating conversation. Let's not say colored though that gives me flashbacks to 1953.
A lot of this conversation was problematic. I don't know why people are just laughing and praising these white women- the cousin in particular. I usually enjoy this channel, but it's a no for me. The cousin screams Karen/Liberal behavior. She comes off as one of those people who say, "I'm not racist, I have a Black friend." I cringed at many things she said. smh
EXACTLY
Agreed, but I am glad people are having the conversations. I think everyone has their ideas according to their growth. If we can talk we all learn something outside ourselves. So I know I won't agree with everyone, but I'm open to listening and maybe learn something I didn't know.
Well I understand the pause for sure but back in the day they considered any light/mixed/ multiracial person ‘Colored’ back during the slavery days and many times it included Natives too. Then those that were called ‘Negro’ wanted to be afforded what little respect that came with the word and were later called ‘Colored’ then of course later they wanted to be called ‘Negro’ because what is ‘colored’ it kinda meant nothing. ‘Negro’ had become a way of describing yourself with pride which we know later became ‘Black’ and then ‘African American.’ I’ll try and come back and provide some source’s because none of us should just take each other’s word about anything anymore. Idk how this young lady meant the word but I’ll agree with you as I’m now on the part where she discusses Louisiana I can see she still has a lot of soul searching to do. She still has a little pushback and self-discovery to do. Having never lived in Louisiana she’s sure that Louisiana is so much worse hence from a psychological perspective she may mean what came from Louisiana-meaning who and what is much ‘worse’ so sista has a little more work to do. She might have a bit more wishful thinking for being a “child of God” than to think of herself as nonwhite. She also puts a little more base in her voice when she makes the comment “you can’t elbow your way in either (to being Black) to her cousin and yeah she might need to pray on it. I remember in the 90’s when the OJ trial was going on I was a teen working in a grocery store and this old white lady says to me “I hope you Coloreds don’t think we don’t love you anymore because of this OJ business,” and I was just stunned like ‘you’re not allowed to say that to me, that’s racist!’ I was too stunned to say anything tho. Also I was going to say in South Africa today people are Colored there also so who knows what sista-girl meant. 🤷🏽♀️
Today, colored for African-American/Blacks is outdated, offensive, and bound by Jim Crow history. If I said to my Asian friends Oriental, they would be highly offended. Oriental and Colored were put to rest in the 1960s Civil Rights Movement, cutting off terms hoisted upon us by the majority power structure to instead establishing and embracing self-determined identity, such as Black (I'm Black and I'm Proud was the '60s mantra) or African-American. Terms we chose for ourselves outside of the predominate cultures' designation of our identity, if that makes sense. So using colored for American Blacks/AAs indicates a deep-lack of cultural IQ.@@MaryLou913
The prejudice in your cousin is too deep, which is strange because she mentioned “the journalist yet she let someone influx’s her how she views people in the south. I feel like she does this for all. Also Irish were never slaves, they signed a 4 year contract to work the land and at the end of the contract they would get land. Yes they don’t have many rights but that’s not slavery, blacks were slaves for life n their children too. In the case of the Irish if they would they get married n have kids, they were not obliged to full fill the contract. I don’t know why the USA education system don’t teach n gets deep into slavery because I’m not from the US, I’m from Mexico and I know more about slaves in the USA than the great majority of U.S.Amercans, n when I heard an Irish-American claiming they had been the original slaves in “America” I had to do a research because I had not ever heard it, n at first I thought my Mexican school system has failed me but no.
Yea I like this channel a lot cuz my ancestry comes from the same 2 regions in Louisiana as the host does and I've never heard her tell a lie. She's got a good video on Irish Americans in new Orleans and not only were they NOT slaves they were usually the tip of the whip employed as overseers and running businesses such as slave markets. And the new Orleans markets were by far the most brutal in America. Like in 12 years a slave, they go to new Orleans to sell a man who is free cuz they'll overlook it. That's non fiction that's what went down.
The Irish were slaves, along with the poor English and the Scots. Many never lived out their contracts as the owners knew they only had so long to work them, so they worked them to death and they added years to a woman if she had a child because of her pregnancy. If a person ran away for a few days and got caught, they added years. They picked up little children and kidnapped them. I have an ancestor who was unsure of his age because he was so young when he was captured. He was one of those who had time added to his service, plus he was willed to three different owners as his owners died. From what is said about his features, he was probably a Scot, but there was never any proof because he was too young to remember. They also started to breed the very young Irish girls that were transported to the Islands with the black slaves to have a stronger group of workers. There are many in the Islands that have roots going back to Ireland. There is a book called "White Cargo" that talks about it. A child can not sign a contract!
@@pattenpatti No you're wrong. Irish, English and Scots were NEVER slaves. They came as indentured servants to the new world along with Chinese, Indians, Malays, etc. There is a difference between indentured vs abducted forced labor. I personally know Irish and Scots families who's ancestors came to America as indentured servants and thankfully they know the know the history and don't spread propaganda. Please educate yourself.
I know she's very ignorant and believes in propaganda. A good friend of mine is Irish and he even admits his ancestors came to America as indentured servants. It's a shame you know more about American history than Americans.
@@voiceofreason2674 It's a shame her cousin is so ignorant and deluded.
My mom had a sister out of the 13 of them only one passed for white when she passed we went to the funeral and people thought we were close friends I left cause I refused to be insulted like that our cousin did not know us so I left
Many try to “”elbow “” their way in without the struggle!!
Spectacular conversation i loved it!!
Some of Russia is in Asia. There are many Asian people in Russia.
Those asian are from kazakhstan, which was part of the former USSR. Russian by birth and ethnically Kazakh.
@@Gemtiger614 Ok. That does not contradict with anything I said. Geography is geography. Part of Russia is in Asia and that is a fact.
One thing about the black community if you accept it, you will be embraced and treated like family. I’m half Filipino and half lndigenous American(black) and my “black” family is overwhelmingly more accepting than my Filipino side(from America) which is weird because my “on the island” Filipino family bloodline is SUPER accepting of me.
What a refreshing conversation. Kudos to both of you ladies for being brave ❤
Thank you so much!
My grandmother's sister, born in Quebec, married a lovely, charming man named Louis -- from Louisiana. He simply adored his wife and their six children. I loved my great Uncle Louis!! (Pronounced Lu-ee.) He always had some gold foil-covered chocolate coins in his pocket to give to children. After he died his family found his Louisiana birth certificate and Louis was listed as "Negro". Thing is, even if Louis was only 1/8th Black, he was still listed as Black... Wouldn't it be great if we didn't put people into "categories".
He had me at gold foil coins!♥️
I’m a mulatto who has been living in Monroe , La and I was always told by the Holy Spirit that I’m Irish. I am actually kind to you , your mother and your grandmother through her Bother Psoper Conway in Donaldsonville , La. I saw you on RUclips when all of you found out and was angry that she was passing as white . They did what they were told to say all of you… I’m 24 percent Nigerian, through my Irish & Asian, Magnolia…etc.
Interesting! I love her realness. I'm sure your Grandfather knew. To think about it. She didn't look irish. With him being intelligent and with strong culture.. he prob just loved what he seen in her. Im dating someone who's irish and from the islands. Her great great grandma was tooken away from the islands on a boat to america in the late 1800s to Alabama.
You mean late 1700's. Slavery was outlawed in 1865.
Her grandfather likely loved her grandmother because she was "exotic." 😂 But people never want to question what it is that makes the other exotic (when they're smitten they don't care). I'm sure he knew there was more to it, though. Johnny Cash story is similar until he found out the truth. Had others not been digging around and expressing disdain, would he have cared?
Irish can be dark. My grandad's name was 'black Joe', and he was from Donegal, Ireland. In the West of Ireland they have the colleen and very ancient types. Her grandmother could pass as Irish in West of Ireland-I have aunts like her grammy.
I am African American, and I am exceedingly proud of my heritage. I grew up during the 50s and 60s in the South. I remember when I was a little girl that there was a picture of a white woman on the wall in one of the rooms in our house. I used to look at up at that picture and ask myself, "Why is that white woman's picture on our wall?" It was only as an adult that I learned that all those years, I was looking at a photo of my paternal grandmother. I never met her, because my father was older - in his 60s - when I was born. Through family research, I learned that my paternal grandmother was born during enslavement, but she and her family were not enslaved.
I also learned that my grandmother had three brothers, all of whom passed as whites after the Civil War ended. On the other hand, my grandmother - their sister - married my paternal grandfather, who was formerly enslaved. After learning all this, I initially looked down on my three grand uncles. I thought, "Why weren't you proud of who you were like your sister obviously was?"
But as I have thought about all of this over the years, I have come to think that life for my grand uncles must have been very difficult even as freed black men. I can imagine that while they may have experienced some level of privilege compared to other blacks, they probably also experienced discrimination that they would not have faced as whites. (I know of a mixed race man who was lynched in our county back then!)
The choice my grand uncles ultimately made meant they were forever separated from their sister and the rest of their family. It must have been a hard decision - one that they should not have had to make. That's because you're right. As I have often pointed out in these comments, it's all based on a big lie.
Your cousin is a snob. The south had government help for people down on their luck. Some people were snobs in the other direction down south than your cousin and believed it was lazy people who get food stamps. My father's family would not take government help. they would rather starve than be "lazy and low class." So yes, some people lived in shacks because they were too proud to accept help, but the help was there. My Mississippi grandmother was widowed in 1935 with 10 children. My grandfather died of lung cancer at 40. Now they did not have dirt floors and tar paper, but they did live in a house with no running water and an outhouse, and the house may have needed a coat of paint, the only heat source a fireplace, things like that. My dad and his older brothers all quit school and went to work. He was only 14 and he later joined the CCC's in the late 30's. they were not too proud for him to do that build roads because it was government help, but he worked for it. None of my older uncles married until almost 30 as they supported the family until all the kids were grown. One of my uncles died in WWII and my grandmother got a pension from the government after that.
Precisely.
Yes, exactly and proud of it.
The south has leached off the non-south for 100 years. Without mass redistribution of wealth from the non-south to south, the south would today be a backwards shithole
Watching your videos, I find myself glad that passing wasn’t an option for us. I can’t imagine being separated from my heritage for a lifetime. Changing your history could not have been easy. I don’t judge your ancestors for their decisions because I believe they were made in the hopes of a better future. Although I’m aware that a lot had to do with not wanting to be associated with people of color and their disadvantages.
Yes, her story is not at all unusual. Some people just sought to blend in and take the path of least resistance. It's still happening today
I love this. Do you ladies have a podcast? I love the way you incorporate your faith in your conversation. We are all one. I, too, used to feel like I could not ask questions, but the Lord changed me. Blessings to you both.
Though ancestry i found quite a few white passing family members. Many outright denied the truth that yes their grandmother or so was indeed black or mixed and they passed . I found 1 shes my best friend( though she is old enough to be my mother) we have so much alike she is the only one i know that has even my same bloodtype . She wants to meet the family so bad . But i cant lie they ( my mom etc) dnt really see the point of the meeting her because She is a tru hillbilly country gal. I will go see her one day we have been trying to link our family trees but her side keeps destroying any evidence we get together . 😢. So we are kinda outcast on both sides . Her side ( passing ) is highly steeped in their whiteness like for real some was even in the clan ( despite being white passing ) . Many of her siblings dont want me coming to see her 😔 or she me . They lived their lives as white and nothing is gonna change that . Like my family despite knowing their is highly mixed ancestral groups in our bloodline deapite knowing my mothers grandmother was a full indian ( we live as African americans or Black and thats what we are) My mother feels why claim something that wont accept you. To me its like how can i turn my back on my ancestors any of them because they all came together to make who we are. I see my ancestors in my face my siblings faces my childrens faces everyday.
This was ridiculous. Lived 61 years in Louisiana and never encountered a hillbilly family.
Aldo, what’s the issue with “woke?” It simply means to be alert regarding issues of justice in order to oppose injustice. Odd the way it was brought up out of the blue, as though there’s an inherent anti-black bias.
Racist white peoole think "woke" is bad and something it's not. It's ridiculous and ignorant.
Racist white peoole think "woke" is bad and something it's not. It's ridiculous and ignorant.
Exactly! Not sure she knows the real meaning behind the word “woke” for black folks, but now that she’s mixed she may want to find out. 😊
But there is an inherent anti black bias. Have you seen how we are treated not only in the US but worldwide? Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
You are 100% correct.
Keep leaving your Doors Unlocked in those Enriched Communities 😂
“I would love to know her heart” that is why I am interested in my family and lineage at all, that is the essence of my ancestry.
To me the older generation wasnt so closed mouth and in fact were more direct. The reason i think was because being a breed in my grandfathers words was not something to be proud of. In my wifes family her grandmother was raped her mother being that baby. Being native the police were of no help and im not even sure they reported it. The south was different then,people in general were poorer and if you weren't the right name,skin tone you maybe bringing something you didnt want down upon your entire family. If they could pass off as white life was easier it opened doors otherwise closed. Uncomfortable truths but that was reality then. Easy to judge them not knowing what they faced,had to endure. The 70s was everybody love everybody and was by contrast easier to stand up .
I totally agree with you back in the day if I could pass to put my children in a better situation I would have passed
@@jassminejames210Our family is broken. We have those who went off to other states to pass, and those who were a little darker who couldn't pass ,that remained here in Louisiana.
@@vanessapete1091 Sad.....
Wow your cousin is sus. I have second hand embarrassment for you.
just another white Karen who is uncomfortable with her ancestry, and keeps saying dumb poop like:
"colored"
"dirthouse"
"uneducated"
"the north is the place to be",
"I don't have to be a prostitute, I can go on food stamps."
and her general,
"wow, these people are human! What a revelation!"
I think one of the topic should be the Black community separated by colorism and class. There are varies communities within the black community. Lighter-skinned black communities and the classism which which allowed higher economic standing.
This is another NYTN hit. We need to have your cousin back again. 😂
LOL. She's a riot!
I love love your cousin’s position on discussing the uncomfortable truths, and how these actually illustrate redemption. Thank you for this.
The cousins need to continually stress that she’s not woke really makes her words less palatable. People say woke as an insult. Those people don’t know what the word means. It means that a person has empathy and compassion for those different from themselves and act on that knowledge.
Another great one! I want to say you and your family are welcome to our community. I am not even all black like most ppl. It doesn't matter what ppl think, it only matters what you think or know what and who you are. ❤
Have you read Cane River by Lalita Tademy. The author is telling the story of her mother’s side of the family who are from Louisiana.
Just ordered it!
I will engage...o want this to be known... You are helping so much with what people need to know!
Wait hold on second @nytn what’s that behind you? Is that a Roland Aria Tr9? Is that you over there on the low making some electric music? Don’t let me find out you’re also a dj. 🤔🤣😆😅👍🏾
No way that's crazy. They took it down? Because they don't want the truths to come out. Keep doing your part and we gonna keep doing ours by filling in the info you don't really know. 👌 😊
SO thankful for that.
Yeah, people were defensive back then. My mother's aunts and uncles all acted strange and would never talk about their history and did not seem to trust anyone. I think it had something to do with surviving the great depression; or the prejudices of the Irish, or the prejudices everyone seemed to have on each other.
You're right we are so blended but why are anglos so racist more so than any other culture in history.
Japan is pretty socially intolerant towards race mixing. Even if you are half Japanese, you aren't considered truly Japanese. Lots of videos on RUclips about this
Anglos no more racist than Asians, blacks, or any other group trying to preserve a culture
I’m going to attempt to answer this: I think it’s because they have more to lose. By being equal or equitable they have to give up some privilege, some power and some paper and they don’t want to do it. If I had those things I don’t know that I would either though I’d like to think my ideas on fairness and equality would outweigh my greed but of course I have those strong feeling’s because I’ve never had access to THAT. I’ve believed strongly in justice and fairness because I’ve been treated unfairly and unjustly, just my thoughts. They don’t want to break bread so it benefits them to keep the status quo.
Your cousin has a lot of personality.
She is such a go-getter
Your cousin is awesome. We need more people like her.
One of my grandfather's grandmothers was Irish. He loved his Irish grandmother. He was a sharecropper as a child in Delaware who lost one of his legs while working on an ice truck (early trucks were driven by chain) off the land.
Lot of Irish in African American heritage.
This is great. I did a DNA test. Found a whole branch of my tree. Found out Im a quarter Africana. And some in the family didnt like the truth. My half Africana Aunt whose father, my grandfather, goes back to having genetic slave ancestry....forbid me to ever tell her children.
She was simply in search of acceptance and a BETTER life!
She had acceptance within her community, what she couldn't have at that time was a better life. That was denied all but a very few black people until quite frankly the mid 1970's
It was NOT the acceptance she desired.@@clementmckenzie7041
No one buries things concerning the family "for thousands of years" (as mentioned by the cousin), simply because there would be millions of ancestors in such a large time frame. Therefore, memory cannot just be passed on. Memory is lost because already in a few hundred years the family tree fans out and becomes huge
Is that what the term “ White Fragility “means?
Three of my maternal grandfather’s siblings passé blanco . Two grand uncles and one grand aunt. I’m sure that there was more these 3 I know of.
Every American is biased. Especially those who were born and raised here. We've all been socialized/brainwashed by media to view whites and non-whites differently. TV and movies lean heavily on stereotypes to tell their stories instead of developing the personalities of individual characters. It's easier and takes much less time to use stereotypes. As a black woman I used to lock my doors when I saw a black man walking by. But, then I realized that there are crazies of all colors and genders. So, I started locking my car doors when ANYBODY I didn't know was walking by. The real issue is not knowing people who are different from us. After finding out that you grew up loving your Black grandmother you now see Black people differently. Because you found out that she was Black and you're Black too. Even though you don't identify as such and nobody would label as such. It's easy to pre-judge people before you get to know them. But once you have a deeper connection with them and see them as real/complex human beings, like your grandma, it's a whole different story. Like you said, nothing is black and white.
I was just riveted listening to two educated intelligent American women just exchange their thoughts on such an interesting topic. That was Fun!
you're awesome!
Riveted is correct. smh
Colored!?? POC, please
Her using that word says a lot. smh
Her using the word "colored" is not prejudiced in this case. It is this definition:
"belonging to a racial group not categorized as white."
It does NOT mean black/ African American in the old sense of the word.
@@pkmcnett5649 it is still a word that indicates prejudice,and should not be used.. People of color is the correct term.
We were more colored than we thought. Were all a human family, I was raised to identify as Irish. If they knew how black she was, it’s interesting how Europeans like to switch in and out of being white when it benefits them.
Im a BW, and I lock the door when BM as well. Statistically speaking as a BW, they are most likely to injure me than anybody. Has less to do with racism; amd more to do with statistical facts, and what I've seen , and endured my entire life! We need to get real about these things.
Enjoying the conversation and perspectives.
6:53 Past generations have a different attitude to privacy. The Internet and RUclips is open about everything. Most older people will not tell you their "heart" and why should they? Why is there an entitlement to know another human being totally? BTW I have a 23 and Me waiting for me to do. Wanna check my dad's heritage (dwl). We live in interesting times........
Geneticists now say that every human being you encounter, any place on the planet , is your cousin
up to the 30th degree . Every one is your cousin , treat your family better !
I'm not claiming DJT as my cousin!
I like Alicia's perspective as both a Christian and a journalist. She seems all in for the Lord and for truth.
Russia is part of Asia. The Ural Mountains divedes the country between two continents Europe and Asia.
Wonderful conversation!!!
Cuzzin is totally on point…love her Biblical worldview!!!🙌🏼
It’s harder to see the black genes in Alicia, but that’s the beauty of families you come in all shapes and colors. (I’d like to see her with a tan).
Enjoyed this as I have your others.
Good evening from Copperhill Tn.