Leonidas: The End of the Drone Warfare Revolution?
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- Drone warfare has reshaped modern combat, from off-the-shelf drones to kamikaze swarms. But with the Leonidas energy weapon, the U.S. military may soon have the answer to this evolving threat.
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Simon has never seen 300 confirmed
Spartans! prepare for glory!
I kept on thinking he's saying Leonidas weird. At least that's what Hollywood has taught me 😂 Maybe he's right!?
Confirmed
No he is not
Just googled it. Apparently there is more than one correct pronunciation, so both the film and Simon are right technically
To paraphrase the Ozzie powerpointer himself, “It isn’t about being invincible to drones. It’s about forcing cost and complexity in development. Yes a drone can be made with stealth, you can make shielded components against EMP, and you can have sophisticated data encryption to prevent hijacking. All of these things can be countered. but when the prerequisite for ANY drone to operate is to have shielding AND stealth, AND encryption… and NOT having it means the drone is useless… the cost disparity begins to narrow rapidly.”
He's English.
It's always about the money...
@@m.lhenderson5885 He's quoting Perun, and Perun is definitely an Aussie.
And no finer youtuber, is there.
Always look forward to PowerPoint Sundays.
Drones: "Our brothers will block out the sun"
Leonidas: "Then we will fight in the shade"
you spelt Dienekes wrong
"I brought a light with me"
*Laser beam powers up*
I thought I was watching MegaProjects until Simon said the prototypes came in on time and on budget! 😂
to my knowledge he hasn't done the B21 Raider yet either, which came in early and under budget
@@WasabiSniffer The F-18 came in on time and under budget but he did warn us that this megaproject was a bean counter’s dream! Lol.
@@jsinope2786the b21 and the leonidas is the reason I believe we actually have chance against china
@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190 the equipment is fun to follow but when it comes down to it, combat experience, strategy and training is the only thing that matters. In the past 10 years China has only deployed their troops in active combat overseas once to Sudan in 2016… and it was a disaster!
The NEW American MIC version two has a lot of exciting companies in it. Developing capacity before Uncle Sam asks for it, and under budget!
I think we all know where this is going. That's right, mutated sea bass with frigging lasers attached to their heads.
Are they ill-tempered?
Well, they've already proposed trained dolphins to swim up to ships that have a pressure sensitive single shot gun on their snoot. They were supposed to trigger when they nosed into enemy ships.
@@OriginalMicycle extremely!
@@OriginalMicycleno but their extremely territorial
No Mommy’s Way
Leonidas and his 300 EMP projectors stood against a never ending horde of barbarian attack drones.
Comparing the Persians to barbarians is hardly historically accurate.
@@veganbutcherhackepeter The word Barbarian was originally an ancient Greek word for describing Egyptians, Persians, Medes and Phoenicians
@flashkraft Yes, within this context you are absolutely right.
@@veganbutcherhackepeter "Within this context" it looks like you tried to be a know it all and it backfired, and instead of just taking the L and admitting you were plain wrong you give a weaselly "in this context" response lmao 😅
@jdot5974 Not really. I didn't think that you were talking about the historical origins of the word, but more of the way it has been used since then. Or do you not agree that it's a generalization used to refer to people who are culturally backwards and uncivilized?
Isn’t it “Leon-i-das”?
Like the Spartan from Thermopylae
Simon has some odd pronunciations his accent doesn’t always justify. Is what it is.
yh bit of posturing in that pronunciation, it'd be like saying 'new york' with a queens accent every time you utter it
No, it is not. But it really boils down to what accent you're using xD I.e. linguistics can be quite silly, at times
I’m sure there’s a Greek pronunciation going on or maybe I’m just a redneck from Mississippi
It's an either or pronunciation depending on where in the world you are, Even different Greek historians will say it differently
I did 4 tours.
So fucking glad drones wasn't a thing haha. I was in the turret exposed!
Lol. Yeah Imagine you just chilling in that turret rig and that bas***rd comes right at you.
Ya shits wack now
And all you hear is that menacing buzzing sound.... Dystopian af. @@zenster1097
Yeah but every nato veichle has ecm... Ukraine maybe a few of em.
@@ifv2089 ohhh god not another game changer weapon from nato. Their leopards have been getting hit by everything so their ECM is hot garbage. besides they are using wire drones now so the ecm will do nothing.
We can finally learn what Leona-does
If he purposely mispronounced the name to get comments and interactions then bravo 😂
@@gagewambeke6230 I'm sure that's it.
If you Google "Leonidas pronunciation" you'll get both British (Simon's) and American (the 300 movie) pronunciations given to you
@@misledpoetI'll cave on the British pronunciation of aluminum but Leonidas and "maths" is too much. 😂
She praises the sun
LIGHT BLESS THE SOLARI
You forgot the "This video is brought to you by Epirus" part.
The Surface to air missile, is it the end of anything that flies? Short answer, No.
Chasing a soldier with a drone like that is so fucked up. Most weapons you don’t see coming, that’s their mercy.
Terrifying agreed
They incorporate this into a layered system:
You'll have Leonidas to swat the consumer level stuff paired with something like a Rheinmetal 30mm system firing programmable airburst rounds for anything that's not responding (hardened) against Leonidas.
As you make drones tougher, their size and mass go up dramatically. Then you end up chasing the dragon when it comes to range, maneuvering, and payload, and cost.
You can -easily- harden the drones against EMP. Even more like they do in Ukr. they dont buy a dji, the buy the parts and assemble themselves. You just have to harden somo of the parts of the assembly.
haha... rheinmetal can destroy a 400 euro drone with a short burst of 700 euro bullets 50x...
thank you rheinmetal
@@gezalesko3813 So in the logistics war, you only lose 300 euro per engagement.
Go to roughly the six minute mark to get the gist of the system without the word salad time filler.
You might need to look up the definition of the term your using....
This is called a "Back-History" and it's at least relevant to the topic.
Thank you! The talking penis with a beard was reminding me of a DEI professor in a Portland College.
Thank you. Word salad time filler is spot on.
Your fascinating lecture on new knowledge is my repetitive word wall explaining water is wet.
@@kurtwicklund8901 Water is wet due to a synthesesia of stimuli upon the dermis neuro resceptors being interpreted by the brain via the sympathetic nervous system.
I'm very optimistic that this will be a strong counter in the short term. I'm much less confident that it will be so for a long time. I think this system will just increase the cost of the drones by, as Simon mentioned, forcing drones to be hardened against microwaves or be made to counter the IFF in some way.
But being a strong short term counter is good enough for now, and this program needs to be put on fast forward. It's needed yesterday.
All it takes is a faraday cage.
Consumer drones will be off the table immediately. And drones no longer will be so cheap.
if you can force your enemy to spend 5 times more for the same capability that's already win, a small one but still a win...
@@DmytroMasliei dude, your microwave oven is microwave hardened in order to protect you. It's not that hard, it's just physics
Yeah it just stops cheap consumer drones is all. Gives shielded ones less range.
Thought the whole point of lasers was due to the fact we know how to shield electronics. Not that microwaves have never been helpful.
Drones are just going to have to be shielded from both types making them more expensive, and need to weigh more. We already have autonomous drones that will still work when jammed.
Cool tech none the less. Suprised I never heard of it till now honestly.
Microwave drone defence, after it's done, it goes Ding!
Used to have this system on front of vehicles in Iraq as early as 2005 called Macorba was used to mitigate pir-initiated devices
2:46 Maduro has zero survival instincts 😂
Lol that's what I thought. I have seen that look in the eyes of people who were told to "take a seat" by Chris Hansen.
That was an appropriate reaction, tho. I mean, for someone who has a security service and needs to publicly appear confident.
Remember how, in her days, Elizabeth II quietly walked her horse through an assassination attempt. That's why you hire bodyguards.
He doesn't want to show weakness, def a hidden code-brown downstairs
@@WORLDCRUSHER9000 That look on his face doesn't seem like he's trying to act unconcerned, more like he has no clue what the hell is going on.
Like trump hahahaha
"...it can be crammed into the back of a pickup truck."
Well, here comes the Toyota War 2: Electric Boogaloo, now featuring the Drone-killer Technical... I just love the fact that humans have as strong a drive to put *anything* in the backs of pickups, as the drive we have to *pet* any animal, regardless of the danger it poses.
I mean, the truck bed is what's it's for.
"Unintentional submarine". 🤣 gets me every time
How many times
@@scottparker1741 lol, at least twice now. Variations on the same theme.
@@Royce16727 its from the meme with the russian cruiser moskava saying "moskava, promoted to submarine" that circulated the internet last year.
This is more of a countermove rather than a checkmate as there are several strategies that I could think of off the top of my head that could possibly be affective against a system like this:
Flying higher
Using stealthy drones as a lead
Emp shielding
Developing first strike drones that attack these outside their range
Imagine the signature this thing would give off for anti-radar type systems. Just send 1 dummy drone to make it reveal itself
Emp shielding requires increasing thickness/complexity to prevent increasingly powerful directed microwaves from penetraring them... this adds bulk, weight and cost, and civillian drones would he unlikely to raise costs just to manufacture them to function in non-civillian roles. It's an economic deterrent, most of all.
Stealth significantly effects cost, and increased height (meaning larger, more powerful engines) is easily countered by more powerful beam on the ground that can sustain significantly more weight for emitter and power gen.
So you’re quickly back to conventional aircraft and artillery, which you don’t want targeting anything, which is why you have conventional SAMs and artillery. This systems negates the advantage of low cost FPV and grenade-droppers.
Flying higher is decent for surveillance and missile armed drones, but it makes munition dropping and suicide drones all but worthless.
Stealthy drones as a lead only works if they can locate and destroy the microwave emitter without being detected. Not impossible, but the emitter will likely only activate if it detects a swarm of drones and might be difficult to detect at range unless its emitting. EMP shielding adds to the cost and weight of the drone.
Leonidas, meet Emperor Kinzhal. Any questions?
To everyone saying it's pronounced wrong, he is using the Hellenic pronunciation of the name, "Hercules" is another name which isn't pronounced like in the Disney movies.
That being said, let's be real, no one is calling this weapon system Leo-Knee-dus
I expect that whatever the US military decides is the pronunciation is the correct pronunciation. It’s their weapon system, not a person
Content aside, Mr. Whistler, I am in awe of your clear rapid vocal delivery & range of subtle inflection that make your podcasts engaging. Like any craftspersenship, no doubt, hours of practice to hone a natural ability. Thank you for your time & energy.
The CEO of the company pronounces it like they do in the movie 300
It's his company so he can pronounce it how he wants.. but the word is a Greek name / word and the Greeks pronounce it the way Simon is saying it... so if there's a "proper" way to say it, it's how Simon is saying it, since the Greeks invented the name. That said, it's not remotely relevant either.
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In the time it takes to type this, you’ve been called a nerd 3.14 times. I type slow.
@@Hathurgood point
😂😂😂
It's such a joy to see people learn that things aren't pronounced the same in every nation.
Aluminum - Aluminium
I don’t think you’re pronouncing Leo-nidas correctly…
Who cares?
@@joebrown8873me my name is Alex so Alex cares lol
He’s pronouncing it like it’s a Spanish name instead of a Greek one.
Quick Google check, he's saying it right and we're all just saying it the dumb American way.
Simon has always had ~interesting~ pronunciations. I even went down a rabbit hole once trying to figure out where he was actually from. It used to bug me, now it's more of a charming quirk, but I do laugh out loud at his choices sometimes.
7:38 Well…let’s immediately take a look at how easy it is to shield from microwave radiation shall we? It’s not hard.
^ THIS ( and the current Leonidas? a multi million dollar system that cannot be carried on anything less than a pickup truck, and, as part of its operation, emits radiation spotlighting its position )
you could tape some popcorn bags on them and call it an ablative armor system
So how do you shield the rotating blades? Why would the blades not act as antennas to the drone and carry RF to inside the body?
If it is remotely piloted or is transmitting video or telemetry, there will be one or more antennas. If you shield an antenna it ceases being an antenna. I believe for this reason that high power microwave energy will be difficult to defend against.
@@channelview8854 SOMEWHAT TRUE - but directional antennae is basically an antenna shielded and oriented to only receive and transmit in one direction
You could also have 100% faraday cage shielding, opening only briefly to transmit data and close it all back
finally: Fiber optic cables to an out of range "mother drone" or ground operator would be an effective counter
I thought It was Leonidas from spartan because he stopped the Persian invasion with their enormous slave army, some would say they are basically drones with no autonomy and this weapons system ideally stops the "invasion of enormous armies of drones". Oh wow I hadn't listened long enough to hear Simon make this comparison too.
300 didn't try to be very historical. The Persian army was not a slave a army.
@@fredthefish581check out dan Carlin king of kings episodes. Totally worth it.
Gotta read the history books, not watch Blockbuster movies. Spartan society was based on the fact that they were slave owners. The Persians were the culture of “free men”.
@@jeff4son The Achaemenids absolutely had slaves
@@jeff4son The Persians had slaves they just didnt have them in the same numbers as other ancient societies
Leo-nye-das = American pronunciation (300 popularised)
Leon-idas = Hellenic pronunciation
I know it's a game, but in AC: Odyssey it was Leo-nee-das (like in 300, but a long E instead of a long I) so now I've heard 3 different pronunciations and don't know what to think anymore 🤷🏼♂️
Have you heard the long E version before? Any idea where that comes from? Genuinely curious.
@@mj.ray0898that’s the accurate pronunciation. funnily enough, last time when AC was accurate about anything 😅
Λεωνίδας is written Leonidas in English. It is pronounced Leo-ni-thas, but there are three howevers, here.
First of all, as you see, intonation goes to the "νι-ni" syllable.
Now lets take it syllable by syllable.
"Λεω" is pronounced as in the word-name "Leonardo".
Watch this: ruclips.net/video/GE4tiA-U3Bw/видео.html
Its pronounced like the second pronounciation in the video.
The "νι" syllable, is pronounced as the ni, in the word nickel, Nick, nickname. Not like the "ni" in Nigeria or night.
The "th" of the "thas" syllable, is pronounced exactly as in the word "thus". Its not pronounced as a "d".
If it was like Leo-nye-das, the first syllable of the Greek word, wouldn't be with a "Λεω", but with a "Λιω".
If it was a "nye", it would be with a "νιε" instead of the correct "νι". If it was a "das", it would be "ντας", instead of the correct "δας".
You would end up with "Λιω-νίε-ντας" instead of "Λεωνίδας".
Both Simon's and the 300 movie or most British or American documentaries pronounciaciations, are anglisized versions/ways of pronouncing the name. It's not how Greeks do.
I expect that whatever the US military decides is the pronunciation is the correct pronunciation. It’s their weapon system, not a person
@@Yiannis2112No one knows how the name was originally pronounced… not even vaguely…
I foresee the development of drones flying about in a Faraday cage.
Exactly.
clever!
What the hell is even that
@ONETEE.HENDRIX have you no Google?!
@@ONETEE.HENDRIX an autonomous drone with a spherical mesh of conducting material completely covering it. Faraday cage completely shields from microwave radiation.
0:31 that's a cluster bomb homie
How was the video taken....😂
@@zacharyhernandez1483 directly out of my rear end
A drone took the video homie, and a drone is what dripped the bomb
@@anasyn cluster bombs like the one in the video aren't dropped from drones, they're usually delivered by artillery
thats ukrainians using himars to destroy russian pontoon bridges in kursk
Seems like more of an ad than news. Not one of your best, but thank you for the effort 🙏
For what effort?
At a recent conference on the future of US hypersonic capabilites and defense, former admiral James Winnefeld jr said, And I quote "There's a lot of potential there for what I call Ultra-high powered microwaves. Not the kinds of things that are shooting down little drones or anything like that. It's been proven, and I can say this at an unclassified level, at some significant ranges you can do some significant damage".
18:17 It's the 2020s. Drone warfare is evolving like aircraft did 100 years ago, like how battleships did before that and how firearms were in that overall period. Ergo regardless of future-proofing attempts, there's a very real and significant chance that it will still only last years. Only the folks who write the history books can know for sure.
Yours is the truest comment here, I'm sure.
This strikes me as something the military is going to buy on a far smaller scale than needed and when they are needed will be overwhelmed, or more likely, selectively placed leaving many troops to fend for themselves.
If it can kill outboard motors, I wonder whether a simplified version would be helpful on cargo vessels against pirates.
Kill outboard gas motors that are not electronic devices, with directed electromagnetic energy? Seems unlikely.
This seems like it only works in a defense in layers. Drone swarm staggers it's waves, wave 1 defeated by leonidas but gains line of sight to thw leonidas system in order for it to take them down, artillery fire on Leonidas's position, wave 2...
Advantage of this system is its mobility. First wave spots the location of it on the back of a truck, send in artillery, truck has already moved. Checkmate.
@@braydennturner or a drone just launches its own missile at it outside its effective range?
this looks really expensive... and looks about as fragile as most other mobile air defense systems currently in play...
To all the people commenting on Simon's pronunciation of Leonidas: he's got it more or less right for ancient and modern Greek. The name isn't pronounced like the movies aimed primarily at an American audience, it's pronounced like a Greek name. Cause it's Greek.
I'm Greek and I can tell you Simon is mispronouncing the name of our once great king, The proper pronunciation is Lee-Oh-Nigh-Dus.
I'm given to understand the pronunciation varies even within Greece, and modern pronunciations are likely very different from how it was pronounced in the days of Leonidas I or Leonidas of Epirus anyway.
I always like to think that in ancient Greek, Testicles isn't pronounced Test-ih-kleez
Has Simon just swallowed the Leonidas brochure?
The offense v defense of a new type of weapon is always fascinating. Whether it's combatting aircraft in WW1, submarines in WW2, or missiles in the Cold war, the general lesson seems to be that a sort of equilibrium will be reached where these weapons systems are never decisively effective but, at the same time, can never be fully stopped. What I'm simply guessing, as a layperson, is that drone swarms (e.g., drones as insects -- mass attack) will be very hard to combat. But I'm no expert of course
I like the idea of countering drones with blimps floating giant nets. Old tech v new tech. Its got a lot of that 'get off my lawn' swagger to it
@@Mix1mum not a bad idea, id think
This system was being used as early as 2005 in Iraq
at 6:00 when I realise he is LEO-KNIGHT-TUS. (but probably of a more accurate and correct pronunciation)
My family being from that Greek province made it hard to hear the names pronounced like that 😅 All ribbing aside, stellar presentation as always! Thank you for your robust research and communication abilities!!
Now all ya gotta do is not let your enemy get their hands on one.
It will happen eventually sooner or later. The Soviet air to air missile design took a lot of inspiration from an American missile that failed to detonate over Taiwan.
I didn't know this was a Simon channel. Glad I was suggested it!
I bet this thing as an effective range of around 100 meters. And I bet it doesn't work against hardened systems. For every vice my child there is always an anti-vice.
I like how in the beginning minutes he shows footage of drones then shows an atacms cluster munition hit.
CnC Generals microwave tank is real!
A few more years or even months and we might have the Paladin tank from that game but with a better laser.
Thats exactly this, yeah.
I'm waiting for Styro Pyro to make RA style motion detecting automated pop up Tesla coils
It's been around for a while, possibly since about the time of CnC Generals. I have a memory it was called the Pain Ray or something similar back then.
Now it's just called the Active Denial System. And you don't want one pointed at you.
What a game
Blessed is the man who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed.
If getting it to a place is its biggest hurdle, the future looks bright for this system.
Probably a good time for a video on how exactly EMP works and affects electronics.
Concentrated, aimable EMP weapon based on focused energy.
Your welcome.
Ty!
inverse square law...oh no!
Good against drones maybe. How about incoming missiles?
@@rastus666 but this is for drones specifically. you would need another system to deal with missiles.
Microwaves can be stopped by a Faraday cage (i.e. a complete covering of metal around the object). So aluminium foil around all the electronics could stop the drone from being fried. However, Google says, "Metal Foil or Sheets: Metals such as aluminum, copper, or stainless steel can effectively block microwave radiation. The thickness and type of metal will influence the level of attenuation." That might be why microwave ovens have metal which I guess is about 1 mm thick protecting you from its rays. A proper Faraday cage should be earthed to drain the charge. A drone cannot be earthed. So a charge would build up in the Faraday cage until it is drained. I don't know if this could damage the drone. Of course the drone would not be able to receive signals from outside the drone if it is completely covered by a Faraday cage. That is probably the biggest problem of using a Faraday cage to protect the drone from microwave radiation.
I swear, they intentionally tell Simon to say things wrong so they get more comments.
That's "ko-mantz".
Probably English pronunciation.
With a few inexpensive modifications to a drone’s design, such as adding Faraday cage shielding around critical electronics or using surge protectors on power lines, the threat posed by a directed EMP can be largely mitigated, ensuring continued reliable operation. However, protecting against laser-based neutralization systems is more challenging. Solutions like reflective coatings or heat-resistant materials can help, but more advanced defenses are still required to fully counter this type of threat.
Tend to agree. Off the shelf drones, like Middle East insurgencies use, will be neutralized. At the same time the $500 purpose build devices, used in Russia-Ukraine conflict, will be immune within weeks.
How is your drone going to recieve a signal from the pilot if it is in a Faraday cage? Remember these drones operate at the VERY limit of their signal.....
Couldn't they stop the microwaves with a Faraday cage? Like the door of a microwave, but made for this situation. I could just see a wire mesh fitting around the underside of the drone body and maybe the motors. Unless they can modulate the frequency of the microwaves to penetrate it, but you could run into a lot of problems there.
Runs up the costs of drones, average civillian drones are cheap because they don't need to be hardened for military purposes... if your drone goes from a whole fleet to an air patrol simply due to cost, deterrence has done its job.
if the cage is not grounded, it does nothing except add weight
@@MetapharsicalFaraday cages don't need to be grounded to work, only to discharge.
@@WatersmithTV yes, I suppose you're right on that, but then won't the cage absorb the radiation and heat up? and that is the intended effect of the weapon
@@Metapharsicalheating metal takes a lot of energy...
You could make a pre programed drone resistant to this device.
Having a remote controlled drone is near impossible as the antenna need to be sensitive, which is how the EMP will hit the electronics.
Counter: Single layer of aluminum foil covering drone. Prevents penetration by microwaves, the worst that could happen is the foil heating up but you'd boil humans nearby before managing to pull that off.
So how does the drone fly when surrounded by foil? How does it sense direction and location inside a faraday cage?
Optical and AI
@@justinpenn9250 Foil does not affect compasses or balance. GPS antenna has to be exposed, though.
Not if its guided by fiber optic wire, which is rapidly becoming common place for both sides in Ukraine... thus this system is rapidly becoming obsolete before ever being deployed...
Not true. At sufficient power and the right frequency, aluminum foil essentially be comes an amplifier concentrating and multiplying the strength of incoming microwaves helping to fry the drone. Your Faraday cage needs to be grounded to work.
Drones can be made to absorb this energy and even use it to charge its batteries.
they will simply harden the drones against emps...Not to mention they could also use gyroscopes and basic pathing/tracking.....so when the drones lose radio, they auto target and go for specific objects. They will always be behind in warfare when they are reacting, instead of innovating!
It isn't an emp like he said but a microwave weapon which is functional very difficult to harden small drones against
the drones would be a lot more complex and expensive and radio waves only need a tiny gap
At that point you just have a regular ol' missile. The whole point of drones is that they're cheap.
They will simply make anti drone equipment work against drones hardened against EMPs
The Russians have been using drones without wireless transmission.... they use very thin fiberoptic wire on a spool, and are one-way drones.
Really great to know, but seems like this is exactly the kind of information that should be highly classified, thanks for sharing with our enemies
17:18 so a faraday cage?
Drones still need sensors outside the cage.
Answer: The Xerxes faraday cage.
For anyone interested, in Greek Leonidas sounds like "lay-on-ee-das". In English it's kinda anyone's game. He's just using received pronunciation like any true southerner.
Tech will alway evolve to counter enemy tech. You just have to be motivated.
For those saying he pronounced it wrong, British English (you might consider it the O.G.) pronounces their vowels different than American English.
British: lee·o·nuh·duhs
American: lee·uh·nai·duhs
Perhaps the British should learn English!
As someone who has English parents but grew up in America, nah, you're making things up. And that doesn't account for him pronouncing the first half like Leon instead of Leo. He isn't even dividing the word up into the proper syllables. I have heard English people pronounce Leonidas properly, I.E my dad and I cle while watching the movie.
A simple soultion would be to put a mash cage around the drone which can also act as the frame therefore not making the drone heavier. A mesh similar to what every microwave oven has on the glass door, which is what stops the microwaves from exiting the oven...
Sounds like a fantastic bit of tech, which makes me wonder how long it is before it's targeted by hackers or hostile foreign tech thieves.
The world knows how to make high powered microwaves, no?
What this will stop is cheap drones. I am pretty sure you can shield from EMPs. Well I don't know about microwaves, but aren't things shielded from nukes.
Cool tech if it works as intended.
It's been used against pir-initiated devices since 2005 in Iraq
Hardened drones could overcome Leonidas, but that would drive up cost. It may not be able to stop all drones, but if it can stop the cheap off the shelf ones, that will still be very effective against lower budget hostiles. It certainly sounds promising for changing the current landscape of dirt cheap drones on battlefields.
Well, and there is no guarantee they couldn't adjust things to make them more effective against more expensive drones as well.
Better hope the emissions of the EW doesn't get triangulated then. All it takes is 1 drone (they can be wire guided but youd have to get very close) or a *non magic* missile.
If the OPFOR was good the. They would only have to make some hardened drone to go in first and find the anti-drone systems. Then the masses of cheap drones come
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He literally mispronounced Leonidas
Drones can be hardened against such weapons, but current drones that are considered 'commercial' are, as yet, not capable of such hardening without serious capability compromise - but is will happen at some point.
“Wired drones.”
there are wired guides missiles, but for drones it works against regular sigal jamming, not these emp attacks.
Don't think it would work. One, a mile of wire is pretty heavy. Two, sounds like this system would still fry the flight controller and other chips it needs to run
Russia has recently introduced wired drones @Jeff you are correct @paul Russia uses a single fibre optic cable
You mean a towed missile 😂
@@pauld.b7129 wire guided drones are already a thing a 10 kilometer fiber optic cable weighs hardly anything
The company is named the weapon after the Epirus Bow which could fire unlimited repeating bolts of energy.
Hence the bow and arrows in the logo
Not named after the city.
The inspiration for the name was taken from the movie Immortals.
Everytime Simon says Leoni-dus, I shiver a little
The moment one gives close attention to anything, even a blade of grass, it becomes a mysterious, awesome, indescribably magnificent world in itself.
this sounds like an advertisement
Adverts tend to pronounce the product name correctly
My 2ct: Ok for consumer drones... but an autonomous military drone could be shielded. It would add some extra weight, but clearly doable I think. Hardened electronics already exists. Sensitive electronics can be placed inside the faraday cage, and communicate using optocouplers to the more rugged sensors on the outside. I'm a physicist though, and not an military engineer.
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What would happen if a drone was constructed incorporating a faraday cage
Then it couldn’t receive GPS or WiFi commands
@@robertvondarth1730 Automated Areal Following Faraday Cage protected Drones going to be a thing in the future :D
@@ploed how are these going to be controlled ? If they are covered by that faraday cage ?
@@ploedthose sound much more expensive than current drones. Which would go against the very advantage of being able to build and field tons of cheap drones to overwhelm
@@b89976 TERCOM - currently used for Missiles. Not sure how expensive the system is.
so what happens when the drones come in at knee height rather than a couple hundred feet? also how do you keep something like that powered up on the front line?
Sounds like a Faraday cage would be this thing's downfall. I would hope they thought of that though
How do you control a drone that can’t receive signals then, genius?
@@andreww3016 obviously you understand very little about signals and Faraday cages and how things work then. Go do some research. That's like saying how do they harden fighter jets or air force one and it still send and receive signals. Might wanna understand the actual stuff before making comments
@@andreww3016Ukrainians are already successfully using unguided drones with images recognition, automatically targeting russian tanks and armoured vehicles. They are impossible to jam, but their electronics can still be fried.
I think Simon needs to go watch 300 so he can know how to pronounce Leonidas.
The problem isn't the drones by themselves. Its the pair of artillery and drones that is unbeatable. Leonidas will be able to either defend against the drone swarm close-in, or against the drones far out. But not at the same time. The problem is that drones can guide artillery while feeding small amounts of cheap drones to keep the system in close range mode. Basically the biggest problem is that it will get overwhelmed and wouldn't be able to avoid artillery. Right now there are effective EW countermeasures like jammers that solve 90% of drones. The problem is that as soon as that module gets spotted it just gets schwacked with artillery, and the cost of that module is usually about 5-10 times more than a single drone.
Which is why we are putting them on drones as well.
They will go ahead of the main force and protect it from the air.
Leon-ī-das I’m pretty sure…
He is pronouncing in the Greek way, google it
And BTW, lasers based defense systems are NOT only capable of projecting a single laser at the time towards a drone. The technology already exists for years in the form of the "Minotaur" vehicle and it's technology is already licensed to the Hellenic (Greek), French and USA military industry. It was recently implemented in the French/Hellenic "Belharra" frigates and the Gerald Ford class USA carriers. Along with a UFO looking drones that were tested in March by the USA navy in the Black Sea close to Crimea, Ukraine and a Romanian town.
I think Simon might be using the Greek pronunciation of Leonidas, but if it’s an American program, there is no way in hell any American would say it like that.
The problem with this system will be its (lack of) speed. The faster that drones get, the harder it will be to point the thing at them to bring them down.
I literally got cancer from how you mispronounced 'Leonidas'
the gun vs. armor thing will happen with this system too, but it should at least eliminate commercial drones as military assets and make military drones much more expensive to build.
My eye is twitching every time he gets it wrong 😂
I mean, I'm not a a member of a think tank or anything, so I don't know if this is a bonehead idea or not. However, it seems it would be rather easy to defeat a system such as this by creating a drone that actively seeks powerful jamming sources, sort of like how we can already lock certain classes of missiles onto enemy radar signals and use those to track the targets we seek to neutralize, such as the radar from an enemy SAM position. Send a wave of the drone zapper killers in first, using the enemy's own jamming signals to pinpoint them, then your main wave of POV guided drones after the enemy drone zappers have been taken out.
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Wiw, its like there's nothing it cant do. Almost... magical
The battle front has become a video game. The Division-2 comes to mind. You can use a drone to shoot and drop bombs but your adversary can use an EMP pulse to kill the drone. Life imitating art.
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So a next generation order of battle might include:
Deploy drones
Deploy counter measures
Deploy appropriate units to disable counter measures
Who ever deploys enough first in large enough quantities will will that battle
Hit reset and repeat. Warfare might become meaningless?
However “that battle” might be a ploy with a first strike of dummy drones to lure out the counter measures
9:49 Also, the next step in the arms race is to not only provide physical shielding…but to spoof many electronic signatures en mass to overwhelm and confuse it. Not to mention flooding the system with electronic interference across a wide EM spectrum…an old yet relevant example is the British Vulcan which “unleashed a wall of electronic interference” while the other Vulcans flanked the target and successfully conducted simulated nuclear strikes.
Considering we have had HARMs (High speed Anti Radiation Missile (IE Radar seeking)) since the mid '60s, this system would not be difficult for a modern military to simply eliminate once it is turned on.
Not only could we pinpoint its broadcast location quickly, but the device will also require some form of radar to spot incoming threats, which also stands out like a sore thumb.
Biggest problem i see is that we are well aware of how to stop microwaves. Small mesh, faraday cages. Pretty sure you could have an aerial feed through the faraday cage without being an issue, especially as the microwaves will always be coming from below.
2:41 Its even brought back the Roman defence of " testeudo".
Also worth pointing out that obviously, the smaller you make these Leonidas units, the less battery power they would have and therefore only situationally useful in the field. And as for those stationed at bases, well, missiles will still beat Leonidas so it isn't exactly full proof there either.
Air defense is like an onion.
Offensive and defensive weapons using lasers or energy beams have been around for several years. However, they are only effective in perfect weather conditions.
The main issue that no scientist or nation has solved is how to use these weapons in inclement weather. Rain or snow can interfere with the laser’s trajectory, as the beams hit the droplets and scatter.
The same problem occurs with clouds, lasers can’t penetrate them and may bounce back, similar to how light reflects off a mirror. So far, no one has found a solution to this challenge.
How dp you know its low power usage? Leonidas can be beaten by a 2mm metal plate on the front and bottom of the drone. As can dragon fire laser systems. You can't break 2mm sheeting with lasers or emp from more than 20 metres away, let alone 500m. Distance reduces power squared.