Mamoswine is probably my favorite actually good ice type. Its the only bulky ice type that can actually make use of said bulk by virtue of having a useable speed stat. It's not great, its certainly fallen off since its introduction but its earned a place in my heart Edit: it hasn't fallen down nearly as far as I thought it would, remaining UU at worst since its introduction is really impressive
ive literally never played competitive pokemon but i love watching this stuff. thanks for providing me so many videos to watch while i eat my dinner. merry christmas c:
Kyurem-Black, the mascot I fell in love with 12 years ago, a Box Art legend whom back in the day everyone told me was unnecessary or even unusable during its time in the past. But it’s now considered not just the best Kyurem form, also the best Ice type. I’m so glad I never gave up hope on Mr.Freeze.
@@axis8396Kyurem white has never been more than niche in Ubers, while kyurem black is doing actually very well in gen 9 Ubers, being one of the best mons on screens hyper offence teams. And kyurem black not being banned forever allowed it to be playable in a tier where it is actually good while kyurem white was left to rot in Ubers, struck in a tier where it was very bad.
Gen 1: Cloyster wishes to be pure Ice Type Gen 2: Cloyster wishes to be pure Water type GF: No worries- we got you bro, just let us put it in our design backlog. *7 Gens later* GF: Look Cloyster, have you SEEN our backlog??? At least we did it right??? Also you gotta love the funny hats
In a fit of rage he smashed his shell, and it was then that cloyster realized he didn't need anything from game freak. The power was within him and all it took was some mild self harm to find it.
Someone at Gamefreak is rolling dice if they should make ice type broken or not. Looks like Gen 9 once again got broken ice type like their previous successor Gen 8 (Galarian Darmanitan).
No older Ice type Pokemon got banned in Gen 9 when they got buffs. What did get banned were busted new Ice types. Weavile is objectively stronger than it was in Gen 8, where it dominated OU, and it's now UU.
Name a more fitting combination than Smogon and Nepotism. 😑 And yes, I meant *_exactly_* what I wrote; if you ever heard the nicknames "smogon bird" and "smogon dog", then you know.
Spoilers for those who haven’t watched the video yet... I thought Weavile would be a shoe-in for best ice type, but I guess being beaten out by a Legendary in Kyurem-Black is nothing to be ashamed about
The choice is kinda weird to me. Is being weak enough to be thrown into OU on multiple generations (even though you were clearly designed for Ubers) really better than actually being banned from OU every time, with both formes never really being that good in Ubers anyway?
It's the paradox of visibility: Lando-T must be broken because everyone uses it. Kyurem-B must be better than Kyurem-W because Kyurem-W is never played, even though B is on and off OU abd W is ALWAYS Ubers
Kyurem-B in gen 9 ubers has been better than kyurem white have ever been. Kyurem-white at best has always been extremely niche while kyurem-black is a good pokemon and common pick on screens hyper offence teams.
@enderdestroyer-mr7nh so, for one generation, it's decently better than Kyurem-White (although it's not even a top tier threat or anything). Meanwhile, Kyurem-Black is out there as the lowest ranked B+ Pokémon in BW OU and B rank in ORAS OU. The difference from Kyurem-White to Kyurem-Black was far bigger multiple times than this single generation from KyuB to KyuW.
But what about Delibird? Arguably, the most important part of the ice type is how it encompasses the Christmas spirit, and what pokemon could even hope to compete with Delibird in terms of such festivities
I never understood why Kyurem Black has dragon claw and not ice punch, despite clearly having gigantic ice dragon arms, so im extremely happy to know that after all these years, Kyurem B finally delivered on the promise of being THE ice dragon pokemon. Loaded dice with icicle crash and scale shot is just amazing xD Kyurem never learnt how to punch people effectively, he just shoots you until your dead xD
I do too, especially since this being Gen 9 means Game Freak can go totally unhinged with it: Make both its attacking stats 170 while retaining the 95 Speed. Give it all the moves Reshiram & Zekrom learn, and make its Ability something like Blazing Voltage where not only is it Turboblaze & Teravolt (aka Mold Breaker), it also gives STAB to Fire & Electric moves. Oh, and make Glaciate a 100 Power move that also hits Water, Steel, and Bug-Types super-effectively (aka what Fire & Electric hit that Ice doesn't).
Kyurem-Black being the best ice type in singles means that the typing is actually a failure seeing a Pokémon that is considered a restricted mon as his BST is way to high for regular play to be in contention makes the ice type look seriously bad
Not really since kyurem black’s main issue before gen 8 is that he barely have any physical moves for his 170 atk stat, not the ice typing, bst doesn’t matter if you don’t have the movepool to use the stats, just for a what if example, if pre-nerf zacian crowned’s movepool only contained wild charge as her best physical option and doesn’t have any coverage or reliable stab moves, she would easily drop down to ou despite steel fairy typing and high bst due to having nothing to abuse the +1 170 atk with.
@@enderdestroyer-mr7nh Also don't necessarily agree with the above poster, but Kyurem-B being allowed in OU was always a travesty. That pokemon was downright ridiculous even with the nuttiness that was Gen5 OU
@@rytoryk2642 Yeah, but hey at least kyurem-black being allowed in ou means that it was allowed to be in a tier where it is good and be used, meanwhile reshiram is just rotting in ubers, with no one using it and can't drop down to ou where it can be useable since due to it destroying and being broken in ou.
One of my favorite playthroughs of a Pokémon game was my hail team in Inclement Emerald. The romhack instilled my love for froslass and her Whiteout ability, and abomasnow.
@jasonholt4380 You realize that Brute Bonnet is one of the worst Pokémon in both singles AND doubles right? 4X weak to bug is super bad in a format with lokix
Articuno is obviously the best ice type! It's was the best in the beginning with Gen 1 and it's been the best here and now in Gen 9! Don't look at any other generations, please.
Merry Christmas False Swipe Gaming. Kyurem is the best ice type ever for me! Close seconds include Mamoswine and Weavile. It’s defined the standard of what an all rounder and offensive Ice type needs to be in order to be successful. It’s the Volcarona of ice types.
Wow... all this time & I only now found out getting frozen is not permanent anymore! 😅 I got Pokemon Blue when it first came out as a kid, so I still have so many gen 1 facts stuck in my head that influence how I play. Even though I've played every gen as they came out, it's so hard to unlearn things from your first experience. I always have to relearn that bug & poison aren't super effective against each other, or that ghost is actually good against psychic. There other changes too, but it's weird that I didn't know frozen was changed after gen 1.
I did disagree with Kyurem Black being your choice for number one Ice Type... Until I finished the whole video and considered all of your points. Definitely understand now.
Eyes wide shut?? Never heard of it!! Also you need to stop your blasphemy obviously home alone is the greatest Christmas movie of all time with best Christmas quotes like " Merry Christmas you filthy animal and a happy new year (evil laugh)"
Ya'know, Ice would be a million times better of they just give them a resistance to both Water & Electric already. Still baffling it hasn't happened yet.
Kyurem black has such a glow up but for me my favourite ice types are: Walrein (favourite design stallrein is still a fun strategy and I bet if it came to gen 9, it would have been powerful with the snow buffs and terrastilisation). Froslass (amazing support movepool can run physical or special moves equally well and has great speed entry hazard setting while also being ghost type and gets destiny bond for cheeky kills on aggressive teams). Glaceon (adorable design, terrastalisation helps its movepool a lot and defences more, it has great support moves like mirror coat charm calm mind freeze dry and has fun bulk to play with while also hitting hard) Avalugg (bulky physical wall and can hit decently hard too, benefits a lot from snow buffs) Eiscue (physical sweeper with ridiculous belly drum potential thanks to the huge speed boost it gets with its ice face ability, a gimmick but a devastating one when used carefully). Baxcalibur (one of the coolest modern Pokémon hits hard takes hits well has great move variety and is so fun to use without feeling too unfair to beat)
Gen 1 Clyoster move set: hyper beam, surf, clamp, blizzard or explosion. Gen 2 Clyoster moveset: Spikes, rapid spin, toxic, surf and ice beam or hp grass
Cloyster in most metagames. Include Ubers. The most longevity ice type Gen 1: Clam spam and explosion. Gen 2 : utility Gen 3: same Gen 4: stealth rocker and spiker. Gen 5: with the complex bans, its was baning to. Gen 6: Viable OU Gen 7: Viable OU Gen 8: Viable OU. Gen 9: UU. Kyurem black is obviusly, he got UBER stats. Only need best moves, its comes with the time.
Kyurem meets someone
“It’s ICE to meet you”
The body is never found
The case goes *cold*
a chilling story
How could you be so cold-hearted as to joke like that
This story has left me frozen
I like those Ice type puns.
i was scrolling through the comments and i had to freeze when i came across this, very ice story
Glaceon, in the timeline where they put the 110 in Speed instead of Defense and also gave the Eeveelutions the partner moves from Let’s Go
Pretty sure that would literally just make it an Ice type Espeon
Even in that case, Glaceon would get the short end of the stick. Sorry but it's not even close
Good, it deserves it, give me Espeon with STAB Ice Beam
It would be cool for the Eevees to have access to their partner moves, not sure how Pikachu's should be distributed though
Imagine they did the Stat change and adaptability so the Freeze dry is unstoppable
terra ice inci... oh wait no not this channel
😂😂😂
The real ones know
😂😂
You were on thin ice pal
What? Is this some WOlfey thing?
Mamoswine is probably my favorite actually good ice type. Its the only bulky ice type that can actually make use of said bulk by virtue of having a useable speed stat. It's not great, its certainly fallen off since its introduction but its earned a place in my heart
Edit: it hasn't fallen down nearly as far as I thought it would, remaining UU at worst since its introduction is really impressive
Mamo doesn't get anywhere near enough credit for being one of only two Bulky Ice types to age so gracefully (the other being Cloyster).
I don’t even have to watch the end of the video. I already know its vanilluxe
We need regional vanilluxe forms like we got for tauros.
A strawberry, chocolate and vanilla variant with either their own moves, or typing.
Vanilluxr in trick room goes hard
Endure weak armor weakness policy vanilluxe is peak
ive literally never played competitive pokemon but i love watching this stuff. thanks for providing me so many videos to watch while i eat my dinner. merry christmas c:
Kyurem, turning into Kyurem Black like in the Keldeo movie: "Hey, who says I can't use my arms for throwing stuff?"
LIVE TR-43 REACTION (It's the TR for Overheat):
Kyurem-Black, the mascot I fell in love with 12 years ago, a Box Art legend whom back in the day everyone told me was unnecessary or even unusable during its time in the past.
But it’s now considered not just the best Kyurem form, also the best Ice type.
I’m so glad I never gave up hope on Mr.Freeze.
Same here. People called me crazy for loving Kyurem-Black
And Kyurem-W being banned forever doesn't make it better than Kyurem-B?
@@axis8396Kyurem white has never been more than niche in Ubers, while kyurem black is doing actually very well in gen 9 Ubers, being one of the best mons on screens hyper offence teams. And kyurem black not being banned forever allowed it to be playable in a tier where it is actually good while kyurem white was left to rot in Ubers, struck in a tier where it was very bad.
Gen 1: Cloyster wishes to be pure Ice Type
Gen 2: Cloyster wishes to be pure Water type
GF: No worries- we got you bro, just let us put it in our design backlog.
*7 Gens later*
GF: Look Cloyster, have you SEEN our backlog??? At least we did it right??? Also you gotta love the funny hats
In a fit of rage he smashed his shell, and it was then that cloyster realized he didn't need anything from game freak. The power was within him and all it took was some mild self harm to find it.
Smogon players: Jeez ice types suck
Gamefreak: *buffs ice pokemon*
Smogon players: *bans all ice types*
Also Smogon players: Why is ice type so bad?
Someone at Gamefreak is rolling dice if they should make ice type broken or not. Looks like Gen 9 once again got broken ice type like their previous successor Gen 8 (Galarian Darmanitan).
Agree.
No older Ice type Pokemon got banned in Gen 9 when they got buffs. What did get banned were busted new Ice types. Weavile is objectively stronger than it was in Gen 8, where it dominated OU, and it's now UU.
Sounds about right 🤔
Name a more fitting combination than Smogon and Nepotism. 😑
And yes, I meant *_exactly_* what I wrote; if you ever heard the nicknames "smogon bird" and "smogon dog", then you know.
The best Ice-type in competitive Pokémon is Delibird.
No, no, he got a point.
“Throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the jolly one. Imaginary technique, Hollow Present.”
It will become the best in the future
I Romhacks haha
*shadypenguin noises intensify*
Spoilers for those who haven’t watched the video yet...
I thought Weavile would be a shoe-in for best ice type, but I guess being beaten out by a Legendary in Kyurem-Black is nothing to be ashamed about
@@LionsEatNoobs And the fact that Kyurem-Black was MID in its debut generation says a lot, a buffed moveset can legit change Pokémon
please do "how GOOD was 100 base speed actually".
genius
They marooned Kyurem Black in space, now he's coming back a star
happy holidays!
The choice is kinda weird to me. Is being weak enough to be thrown into OU on multiple generations (even though you were clearly designed for Ubers) really better than actually being banned from OU every time, with both formes never really being that good in Ubers anyway?
It's the paradox of visibility: Lando-T must be broken because everyone uses it. Kyurem-B must be better than Kyurem-W because Kyurem-W is never played, even though B is on and off OU abd W is ALWAYS Ubers
Kyurem-B in gen 9 ubers has been better than kyurem white have ever been. Kyurem-white at best has always been extremely niche while kyurem-black is a good pokemon and common pick on screens hyper offence teams.
@enderdestroyer-mr7nh so, for one generation, it's decently better than Kyurem-White (although it's not even a top tier threat or anything). Meanwhile, Kyurem-Black is out there as the lowest ranked B+ Pokémon in BW OU and B rank in ORAS OU. The difference from Kyurem-White to Kyurem-Black was far bigger multiple times than this single generation from KyuB to KyuW.
Merry Christmas, False Swipe Gaming
“Say the line, Baxcalibur!”
“It’s ICE to meet you!”
Merry Christmas False Swipe Gaming
How the Grinch used Blizzard on Christmas
But what about Delibird? Arguably, the most important part of the ice type is how it encompasses the Christmas spirit, and what pokemon could even hope to compete with Delibird in terms of such festivities
Tera Ice Incineroar
Wrong channel
Go to wolfey vgc
Tera blast, right ?
Merry Christmas!!
20:13 Officer Magnezone mentioned
I fully appreciate the PMD2 reference. FSG! Merry Christmas!
weavile will always be the best ice type in my heart of hearts. love that funky little guy. so cute. such a menace. so perfect
merry christmas fsg!
I never understood why Kyurem Black has dragon claw and not ice punch, despite clearly having gigantic ice dragon arms, so im extremely happy to know that after all these years, Kyurem B finally delivered on the promise of being THE ice dragon pokemon. Loaded dice with icicle crash and scale shot is just amazing xD Kyurem never learnt how to punch people effectively, he just shoots you until your dead xD
*Icicle Spear
I am fucking melting here, i don't know what snow is like. The fire type video would have been more fitting now for me tbh.
False swipe gaming with the biggest FALSEHOOD of ALL
best Christmas movie is diehard, fight me
Kyurem Black floating in his idle animation was the real upgrade
My boi Black Kyurem getting some love
I hope to see a Kyurem Complete one day. Maybe in ZA, or whenever the B/W remake comes.
I do too, especially since this being Gen 9 means Game Freak can go totally unhinged with it: Make both its attacking stats 170 while retaining the 95 Speed. Give it all the moves Reshiram & Zekrom learn, and make its Ability something like Blazing Voltage where not only is it Turboblaze & Teravolt (aka Mold Breaker), it also gives STAB to Fire & Electric moves. Oh, and make Glaciate a 100 Power move that also hits Water, Steel, and Bug-Types super-effectively (aka what Fire & Electric hit that Ice doesn't).
Christmas=Ice types
I love it
Merry Christmas 🎅
From the best fire type to the best ice type. How fitting.
Kyurem-Black being the best ice type in singles means that the typing is actually a failure seeing a Pokémon that is considered a restricted mon as his BST is way to high for regular play to be in contention makes the ice type look seriously bad
Not really since kyurem black’s main issue before gen 8 is that he barely have any physical moves for his 170 atk stat, not the ice typing, bst doesn’t matter if you don’t have the movepool to use the stats, just for a what if example, if pre-nerf zacian crowned’s movepool only contained wild charge as her best physical option and doesn’t have any coverage or reliable stab moves, she would easily drop down to ou despite steel fairy typing and high bst due to having nothing to abuse the +1 170 atk with.
@@enderdestroyer-mr7nh
Also don't necessarily agree with the above poster, but Kyurem-B being allowed in OU was always a travesty. That pokemon was downright ridiculous even with the nuttiness that was Gen5 OU
@@rytoryk2642 Yeah, but hey at least kyurem-black being allowed in ou means that it was allowed to be in a tier where it is good and be used, meanwhile reshiram is just rotting in ubers, with no one using it and can't drop down to ou where it can be useable since due to it destroying and being broken in ou.
the eyes wide shut mention was unexpected but welcomed
Merry Christmas, FSG
One of my favorite playthroughs of a Pokémon game was my hail team in Inclement Emerald. The romhack instilled my love for froslass and her Whiteout ability, and abomasnow.
Merry Christmas FSG 🎄
What he said Eyes Wide Shut being the best Christmas movie is wild af 😂
Happy Holidays to you as well FSG Crew! Thanks for the quality videos over the years
Smiled at the "Officer Magnezone" reference
Merry Christmas everyone 🎁🎄
We need grass types. They need more recognition
Venusaur leafeon rillaboom and brute Bonnet are worthy contenders for the title
Would have to be Ferrothorn
Oh yeah Tsareena cool ability and with assault vest tanks
@jasonholt4380 You realize that Brute Bonnet is one of the worst Pokémon in both singles AND doubles right? 4X weak to bug is super bad in a format with lokix
@@JusticeForIanRobb loaded dice and bullet seed would beg to differ besides Meowscarada was same quad weakness and its OU and Ubers
I'm really loving these series
Gen 1 Articuno was scary... especially in Pkmn Stadium..
These babies will never know!
Jynx was scarier. Better coverage than Articuno, AND lovely kiss for sleep.
WHERES THE CHARIZARD PIKACHU TEOREM AKA WHY POPULAR ISNT EVERYTHING
Merry CHRISTMAS
Trick question. It's Shell Smash Cloyster.
love the eyes wide shut shoutout 🤤
Give Weavile a good ability already.
Imagine Tough Claws on that badboy.
Not the best but Garm is by far the funniest Ice mon they've ever created
Articuno is obviously the best ice type! It's was the best in the beginning with Gen 1 and it's been the best here and now in Gen 9! Don't look at any other generations, please.
Merry Christmas False Swipe Gaming. Kyurem is the best ice type ever for me! Close seconds include Mamoswine and Weavile. It’s defined the standard of what an all rounder and offensive Ice type needs to be in order to be successful. It’s the Volcarona of ice types.
Gen 1 Articuno
8:50 i feel like someone messed up the ghost of delibird past timeframe since you know... Future form Terminator and all that
For the best bug or steel video I think we should give it to genesect. With all that it’s been through it at least deserves that
Merry Christmas nice video
i like this video,This is one of the best videos I've seen in a long time.
Happy Holidays False Swipe gaming 🎄🎁
Wow... all this time & I only now found out getting frozen is not permanent anymore! 😅
I got Pokemon Blue when it first came out as a kid, so I still have so many gen 1 facts stuck in my head that influence how I play.
Even though I've played every gen as they came out, it's so hard to unlearn things from your first experience. I always have to relearn that bug & poison aren't super effective against each other, or that ghost is actually good against psychic.
There other changes too, but it's weird that I didn't know frozen was changed after gen 1.
So we had the best Fire type and the best Ice type. Did this channel get taken over by the Miser Brothers?
Articuno is by far my favourite. Made me so happy when it won a VGC tournament
Kyruem Black's friends from OU must be so proud of him that he made it so far.
I did disagree with Kyurem Black being your choice for number one Ice Type... Until I finished the whole video and considered all of your points. Definitely understand now.
As evidenced by the presents in the thumbnail, clearly the answer is Delibird
Or Iron Bundle
0:02
STILL waiting for “How Good Was Amoonguss Actually…”
A little disappointed that Frosmoth doesn't have what it takes to be a match for its FSG voted best Fire type counterpart in Volcarona. 😢
What base 65 speed does to a MFer.
Eyes wide shut?? Never heard of it!! Also you need to stop your blasphemy obviously home alone is the greatest Christmas movie of all time with best Christmas quotes like " Merry Christmas you filthy animal and a happy new year (evil laugh)"
Rope >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eyes Wide Shut
Ya'know, Ice would be a million times better of they just give them a resistance to both Water & Electric already. Still baffling it hasn't happened yet.
I never knew kobe bryan was so important to pokemon
Delibird would win this if it was what ice type is the jolliest of all time? -singles
Finally, respect for Ice Types.
i mean yeh he was OU but a 700bst legendary that couldnt cut it in ubers feels like a wrong pick :(
Bustin out a word like 'adroit'
Clearly it’s Gen 1 regice
Merry Christmas 🎄
There is no way in hell my 2 favorites will make the list, but still; Froslass and Glaceon are awsome
you ever kick ball through brick wall?
Merry Christmas to you as well Mr. False Swipe
Merry Christmas
Choice Specs Articuno with 4 Ice Moves winning a tournament will always be funny to me.
Haha ice bird go brrrrr
Ice types are either ridiculously powerful or absolute cheeks. There is no in between.
Eyes wide shut?!? Don't ya mean DIE HARD?
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 sir
Kyurem black has such a glow up but for me my favourite ice types are:
Walrein (favourite design stallrein is still a fun strategy and I bet if it came to gen 9, it would have been powerful with the snow buffs and terrastilisation).
Froslass (amazing support movepool can run physical or special moves equally well and has great speed entry hazard setting while also being ghost type and gets destiny bond for cheeky kills on aggressive teams).
Glaceon (adorable design, terrastalisation helps its movepool a lot and defences more, it has great support moves like mirror coat charm calm mind freeze dry and has fun bulk to play with while also hitting hard)
Avalugg (bulky physical wall and can hit decently hard too, benefits a lot from snow buffs)
Eiscue (physical sweeper with ridiculous belly drum potential thanks to the huge speed boost it gets with its ice face ability, a gimmick but a devastating one when used carefully).
Baxcalibur (one of the coolest modern Pokémon hits hard takes hits well has great move variety and is so fun to use without feeling too unfair to beat)
Happy Holidays!
I missed the "how good were "Pokemon type" actually?" Series.
he still does that, just not as frequently as he used to
@@facade6927I'm talking about pokemon TYPES-Water, ground, bug, steel, etc.
@@Comment3r555 ohh myb I misread, yeah i miss that series too but these kinda vids are enjoyable too
Merry Christmas from the United States. 🎄
Garmanitan is my pick 🧊🐒
giving the gold medal to Kyurem Black would be the obvious choice
BKC's movie jokes are getting more and more absurd every time...
Happy Chrismus .have a good day
For me its Alolan Ninetales.
Aurora Veil gives me a sense of safety.
Gen 1 Clyoster move set: hyper beam, surf, clamp, blizzard or explosion.
Gen 2 Clyoster moveset: Spikes, rapid spin, toxic, surf and ice beam or hp grass
Glalie, next question
Cloyster in most metagames. Include Ubers. The most longevity ice type
Gen 1: Clam spam and explosion.
Gen 2 : utility
Gen 3: same
Gen 4: stealth rocker and spiker.
Gen 5: with the complex bans, its was baning to.
Gen 6: Viable OU
Gen 7: Viable OU
Gen 8: Viable OU.
Gen 9: UU.
Kyurem black is obviusly, he got UBER stats. Only need best moves, its comes with the time.
even thought we lost kyurem as a box art ou pokemon, at least we got zamazenta now
Ice types are usually either rubbish, or they are broken, it seems like, couple of exceptions like mamoswine and weavile, i suppose.
Even weav was considered to be too much by many in gen 8, hell while not considered, Gen 8 NatDex also had weavile as a premier OU threat
I still think ice should have another resist. Water, grass, bug and fairy all seem like resonable options. Even electric would work in a sense.
Feliz navidad