The Alchemist MPC Sampling Technique Deconstructed

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

Комментарии • 324

  • @AveMcree
    @AveMcree  Год назад +31

    Who should I do next???

    • @Elliott.Revell
      @Elliott.Revell Год назад +4

      Pete on the sp1200

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад +11

      @@Elliott.Revell If someone will loan me a SP 1200. I'll gladly do a deconstructed video.

    • @nickynorka
      @nickynorka Год назад +7

      Conductor Williams

    • @Elliott.Revell
      @Elliott.Revell Год назад +7

      If you got a 2500 do some preemo goodness.

    • @carbonvibes
      @carbonvibes Год назад +6

      Just Blaze

  • @malakinesis3584
    @malakinesis3584 Год назад +99

    That Larry June Alchemist Project been on repeat for me. Alchemist ain’t never missed

    • @taylamayde
      @taylamayde Год назад +4

      for 60 days lol

    • @Trakaholiq
      @Trakaholiq Год назад +3

      One of Uncle Larry's coldest projects! 🍊

    • @barboncitodechilly7612
      @barboncitodechilly7612 Год назад

      Yeehee

    • @artisans8521
      @artisans8521 Месяц назад

      Yeah, for Larry June, he uses an MPC 2500 and a Maschine Mikro mk3, AFAIK, the mikro. And to find the BPM of a perfect sampleloop, you can use this formula 60÷(Sample length in samples ÷ samplerate ÷ beats). Bought a school Casio for 16 bucks to do the math. Hell, what you get these days for 16 bucks. Later I found out the timestretch algorithm also comes equipped with a tempo page that does the same, JJOS2XL rules. And for calculating the BPM of a transposed down loop I use the SP404 mk2...looks like a large calculator so it can be used as one right? Just goto the sample tempo page of dummy sample. Set the speed of your original sample and lower or up the semitones.

  • @amillionbeats1
    @amillionbeats1 Год назад +50

    Showing how to do it on multiple different daws and machines is awesome nice work. It’s important that the newer gen sees that the tools don’t matter .

  • @Diaghe
    @Diaghe 9 месяцев назад +5

    Never knew I can timestretch on MPC live and change the tempo efficiently like that!
    I've been doing random math changing the semitone til now. Thank you!

  • @rashad9187
    @rashad9187 Год назад +46

    Love how you went thru multiple Devices to achieve the same dope outcome. This is Hip hop ✊🏾

  • @seasonbeats6221
    @seasonbeats6221 Год назад +9

    Dope! I think it’s cool how this is explained as to how the different generations of samplers all can translate the same sample the same way.

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq
    @MrOuija-rr8kq Год назад +22

    I want more old school MPC stuff. It can easily be applied to any sampler really.

    • @osirisofthesouth2853
      @osirisofthesouth2853 11 месяцев назад

      why tho, aesthetics or functionality. and can i hear your beats

  • @The_MC33
    @The_MC33 Месяц назад

    This has gotta be one of the most important lectures on sampling I've ever witnessed. Thank you for your wisdom! 🙏🏽

  • @proudpolishherbsman2583
    @proudpolishherbsman2583 Год назад +11

    4:06 You're not using JJ OS, that's why you might be missing some options. But JJ OS gives you all of these options and more. Your MPC will get another life with the JJ OS, trust me bro.

    • @geniusthegod9832
      @geniusthegod9832 Год назад +2

      Word!!! I was just about to mention JJOS to @Ave Mcree. Time stretching and, more especially, if you use XL.

    • @Jim_KYB
      @Jim_KYB Год назад +2

      So much easier with JJOS destructive chipping. Killer machine.

    • @arifmemovic3383
      @arifmemovic3383 3 месяца назад +1

      That's because the Alchemist doesn't use JJOS.

    • @artisans8521
      @artisans8521 Месяц назад +1

      I use JJOS2XL.....cool. And time stretch and pitch change are there. I think Ave should push some dollars to Japan, mine came equipped with it, last July. Very cool machine....sampling from CD or record. All there.

  • @gsmith11172
    @gsmith11172 Год назад +2

    What I like most about this video you showed us the same technique within the workflow of various MPCs and Daws

  • @smehta5577
    @smehta5577 Год назад +5

    I've been listening to alc's beat all day and happened to come across this awesome video - perfect timing and breakdown thank you

  • @AdamFraserTv
    @AdamFraserTv Год назад +8

    You can actually chop , stretch and pitch with stock FL plug-ins . There are several ways to achieve this . For me though , I prefer analog / hands on a piece of gear as opposed to clicking a mouse or typing keyboard but it can be done .

  • @yeahdatsjay
    @yeahdatsjay Месяц назад

    Dope man, i can’t wait to see what you make next

  • @Passarinho86
    @Passarinho86 Год назад

    My goodness, this is comprehensive yet with a simple explanation. Well done.

  • @K4SET
    @K4SET Год назад +9

    Also really easy in FL, just align it to the grid and do manual chops. Done manual chops a grip of times. Not as intuitive as with using a actual groovebox but eh is good enough. People have even recreated JDillas songs in Audacity lmao. If theres a will theres a way

  • @MOIRECREATIVEPARTNERS
    @MOIRECREATIVEPARTNERS Год назад +1

    You can press SHIFT and change the tune in all of them all together. I think the JJ OS also has time stretch. I would have to take my 2500 to confirm which function that was.

  • @DjiRocJoe
    @DjiRocJoe Год назад +5

    My dude. This was on point! Thanks for putting in the time and effort for this video.

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад

      I greatly appreciate it

  • @TheRealSuperPosition
    @TheRealSuperPosition 7 дней назад

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! ive been struggling with getting my samples to match up, thanks to you i know what my issue was, the project tempo lol. just needed to adjust that and bam, my samples lined up. thank you so much man!!!!! i struggled for YEARS my dude, ive been crying tears of happiness to finally GET IT, bout to call my momma lol

  • @michaelhilario3407
    @michaelhilario3407 Год назад +1

    Yes to a MPC 2500 Master Class🎉

  • @melanatedafrikanaquarian4687
    @melanatedafrikanaquarian4687 Год назад +2

    At 4:10 The Mpc 2500 does have Timestretch in the Trim Mode doesn't it? It sounds quite bad on samples and contains weird artifacts though.

    • @BlkOMNI
      @BlkOMNI Год назад

      I was just about to say that there is time stretch on the 2500. It depends on the jjos you running. I know the 2xl has it

    • @melanatedafrikanaquarian4687
      @melanatedafrikanaquarian4687 Год назад

      @@BlkOMNI All versions of JJOS has that feature including the stock Akai OS.

  • @jrallday
    @jrallday Год назад

    Can you make a video of this same topic using Serato Studio!

  • @gravitygal47
    @gravitygal47 Год назад +1

    Are the new generation of MPCs able to pitch change samples in the old/simple way (that results in the sample length changing as well)?

  • @365OTG
    @365OTG Год назад

    I use that method now. Good video

  • @maarawoe
    @maarawoe Год назад +10

    Reminds me how terrible and frustrating the stock OS on this unit was :-D These units were soooooo limited without jjos. I have doubta on the 32 slices technique though - if you check his video, some of the chops are much longer so I don’t think he blindly chopped to 32 regions…

    • @djestouff
      @djestouff Год назад +4

      agreed lol he’s way off

    • @lawrenceboardjr.8509
      @lawrenceboardjr.8509 Год назад +2

      You can adjust the endpoints after chopping if you set your new program to pad parameters therefore u can have as king of a slice as u want still using that technique

    • @AfferbeckBeats
      @AfferbeckBeats Год назад +2

      Yeah, I couldn't believe the things they didn't update from the 2000XL I was used to. Having to jump through every pad to change the pitch instead of the whole program. Thankfully JJOS added so many little things like that which makes it much more comfortable to use.

  • @DJ2109
    @DJ2109 Год назад +1

    always a good day when ave uploads

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад

      ty so much!!! I took a lot of time with this.. Especially dealing with some of my MPC 2500 weird issues lol

  • @SDSOverfiend
    @SDSOverfiend Год назад

    I’m short.. Alc basically played the drums chops and everything that came with it. That gives it the off-balance-ness that makes it kick. Using time stretch to fill in the “Air”.

  • @callumgillies9611
    @callumgillies9611 Год назад

    A clever man breaking down the work of a clever man. Fantastic.

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs Год назад +2

    Excellent ... I nice practical breakdown for people like myself who might have been intermediated by this type of equipment.. Still in Logic for now but I definitely see the benefits and the quality of sound.

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад +1

      Well I appreciate you being here

  • @zobangerz
    @zobangerz Год назад +6

    The MPC 2500 + jjos software has time stretch Capabilities. I'm sure you were referring to the stock MPC 2500 though
    Great video! 🫡

    • @GRXXNS
      @GRXXNS Год назад +2

      My MPC500 has time stretch so does the 2500. It's in trim mode. It doesn't sound very good but it's always been there.

  • @lindasson
    @lindasson Год назад +14

    Yo Ave, this is NICE bro!!! I love videos like this, digging deeper into classic producers/beat makers, and what makes them unique. Great job bro!🙏🏾✊🏾💚

  • @itsgoldn931
    @itsgoldn931 Год назад +2

    Yooo upgrade to JJOS3! It’s got time stretch. Not as user friendly, but JJ did an excellent job of getting us as close to modern with the machine.

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад +1

      I have jjos version 1 but don’t know how to use it 😑😩

    • @itsgoldn931
      @itsgoldn931 Год назад

      @@AveMcree ngl i had to take a day out, but it was totally worth it! You’re prolly not missing out on anything with the new MP’s

  • @abovegrungproductions
    @abovegrungproductions Год назад +1

    I wanna thank you for taking the time out to explain but it doesnt help me if I do not have the perfect looped sample. How would I achieve that?

  • @BuckpLAYZnOGAMEz
    @BuckpLAYZnOGAMEz Год назад

    Cold video bro ! The Alchemist has always been in my top 5

  • @duskytcg
    @duskytcg Год назад

    Recently found your channel and its sooo nice that you know wtf you're talking about. Subbed !

  • @ambaden2
    @ambaden2 Год назад

    I’m glad you showed this Thank You🙏

  • @warnutztheloser
    @warnutztheloser Год назад +1

    I was jus asking today if solange quit... & look u have her vinyl wow

  • @mastaboog749
    @mastaboog749 Год назад +1

    thanks for this, i have a mpc 1000 that ive been using as my main piece but it makes me just want a 2500!! sick video loved it

    • @jazzbwooy8889
      @jazzbwooy8889 Год назад +4

      they are basically the same units. anything you can do with a 2500, you can also do with a 1000. same OS, only difference is in the nr of ins/outs and q link sliders

    • @MrJonblundmusic
      @MrJonblundmusic Год назад +1

      You can do it all on MPC 1000 that you can with 2500. Serious

  • @chairmanmaf
    @chairmanmaf Год назад +1

    The 2500 does have time stretch?!

  • @ernieg
    @ernieg Год назад

    but what if his is Modded With the JJOS ?

  • @NeekRusher
    @NeekRusher Год назад +1

    Salute Ave. This was a good video for people trying to understand how the sample chop game works. A good friend of mind in 1996 figured out how DJ Premier, chopped the original song for Jeru The Damaja song Ya Playin Yaself. It took him 2 days to figure it out. You know what equipment he was using to do it? The gemini sampler and Tascam 4 track. This is before I got my MPC 3000. He got that shit down perfectly how Preemo did it. Like you said, you have to have an ear for music. It took me a good while before I became nice at chopping samples. Learning that the original instrument players never played rigid. Anyway good video as always. Keep teaching brother. ✌🏾

  • @jafilly
    @jafilly Год назад +2

    Am I trippin, can you do the same thing is fl slicer or slice x that he did I'm ableton? Especially with a perfectly looped sample with bpm? I could do that in 10 seconds lol wtf

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад

      You’re definitely Trippin. Fruity, slicer or slice X doesn’t have shopping in increments. We did our first matter fact, it has the exact opposite. It has low, medium and high. That’s not like the MPC, or abelton live at all. The problem with image line is they weren’t musicians when they develop FL studio.
      Matter fact, they were the exact opposite they were gamers. Which explains their poor musical terminology. Which has effected their user base.

    • @Francisco12G
      @Francisco12G Год назад +2

      You can chop in several increments on fruity slicer

    • @jafilly
      @jafilly Год назад +2

      @Ave Mcree sir this is incorrect, with all due respect. If you know the tempo you can slice to beat at increments of 16 and 32 , I've used that feature many times. Set the tempo, set the number of beats then click slice button and you can do to beat, 1/4 up to 1/6 of the beat... thats essentially the exact same thing.

  • @Sinosure
    @Sinosure Год назад +6

    Great great video Ave!! This is why when I find my own samples, I create perfect loops out of them!! For this very reason! Once done everything falls into place! That's why overall I think my style leans into cinematic!! It's similar to the jazzy loop the Alchemist flipped! You broke it down on different versions of gear to flip it on too!! Nice bruh!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад +1

      thank you for stopping by I really appreciate it

    • @Sinosure
      @Sinosure Год назад

      @@AveMcree yes sir my brother!!💯

  • @raimem642
    @raimem642 Год назад +1

    The most prolific!

  • @moilario
    @moilario Год назад

    hey can you help me with MPC beats software program manipulation please, for some reason whenever i load up a program template and start recording drums , i use those templates which all tracks written in like drums, sythtube, keys and all that , now if i start by laying drums on the drums tracks , when i get to key and other track my keyboard doesn't play piano plugins or any piano sample if it's there on the template program i loaded , instead i find those piano sounds on my akai mpk mini 3 pads and not on the keyboard somehow

  • @skilletburritos8464
    @skilletburritos8464 Год назад +1

    A more advanced technique is how ALC makes the chops sound less "choppy" if you catch my drift. He has absolutely mastered that. Like you can tell it's chopped but its subtle and almost sounds natural.

    • @TKDmasterX
      @TKDmasterX Год назад +1

      Should be easy to do this by just giving the sample a slower attack. Or side-chain comp. Though not only those things alone will make it sound natural but may help

  • @joman66
    @joman66 Год назад +1

    Wait a min.. what are those tiny little sampler things sitting around your 2500? I want ALL OF THEM! lol

  • @Chron0Unboxing3ra01
    @Chron0Unboxing3ra01 Год назад

    on FL it can absolutely be done with SliceX. I myself stick to Serato sample though

  • @KidLoveWax
    @KidLoveWax Год назад

    0:22 Pressing buttons, trigger samples! Does he do more? 🤔

  • @bt_8498
    @bt_8498 Год назад

    This was one of your best videos Ave 🔥🔥🔥🙏✌️

  • @moinlabs
    @moinlabs Год назад

    As a MPC noob with no understanding whatsoever, here's something that has me scratching my head:
    The Alchemist brought up the source sample (which you explained is 66bpm) by 6 semitiones, not pitch-shifting it but varispeeding, which would result in around 93bpm (which you confirmed when you showed the approach on the MPC2500).
    Now to go to a target bpm of 87 (which you were aiming for) and the same +6 semitones in pitch, you shifted by 6 semitones, then time-stretched to 87.
    This induces artifacts from pitch-shifting by 6 semitomes (a ca. 1.4 factor) and by timestretching from 66 to 87 (a ca. 1.32 factor).
    The same result (bpm and pitch) could be achieved by first varispeeding by six semitones (which is a linear process, i.e. does not generate artifacts), and then timestretching by a relatively small factor of ca. 0.94.
    Why did you do it the way you proceeded?

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад

      Because the modern MPCs have elastic pro time stretching. So you can do more with it.

    • @maeksu
      @maeksu Год назад

      The newer MPCs (and likely older models too) can process timestretch from bpm as well as pitch shift independent from one another… if I understand your question

  • @lovelyeagleye
    @lovelyeagleye Год назад +1

    Legend ! 🔥 great vid! Gave me loads of ideas! 🙏🏼 Thank you

  • @nathanchennell
    @nathanchennell Год назад

    massively appreciated thank you.

  • @burgzdidit
    @burgzdidit Год назад

    Great video Ave. Thank you 💎

  • @bonafidebeatz20
    @bonafidebeatz20 Год назад

    Ah the MPC2500 is my go to …can’t get enough

  • @yoosefsantanamunoz722
    @yoosefsantanamunoz722 Год назад

    9:59 how to do it on Ableton! 💻🗝

  • @beatzdoccrump1297
    @beatzdoccrump1297 Год назад

    Great video Ave

  • @dmims2779
    @dmims2779 Год назад +1

    This was cool a nice lesson.

  • @Dubbudha
    @Dubbudha Год назад

    I miss the cursor button too. They should have kept the layout of the studio black for the live.

  • @oggregproductions6399
    @oggregproductions6399 10 месяцев назад

    Link to the sample pack you used in the video is gone, where can I find it?

  • @twinflametaurus
    @twinflametaurus Год назад

    Dam , I gotta get me an mpc .
    What I would do if I had one is track on it while sending my tracking
    from the daw .
    I guess it's kinda backwards , but the dam daw takes too long for
    everything anyway.
    I know the newer mpc s can link and track via midi .
    Can older ones keep sync in the daw also .

  • @loophome
    @loophome Год назад +1

    super dope video and content!!

  • @kamjohnson23
    @kamjohnson23 Год назад +1

    This was a dope tutorial 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @marclemar
    @marclemar Год назад

    Great video Ave!!! Making me miss my 2500xl

  • @freesocietybeats
    @freesocietybeats Год назад

    I Love my 2500. Had it since again dropped it. 🔥 video

  • @wallyking1
    @wallyking1 Год назад

    You can time stretch on the 2500

  • @Schemez-16vhiphopbeatz
    @Schemez-16vhiphopbeatz 2 месяца назад

    The alchemist gotta be one of the best producer names ever i cant come with a name as bad ass as that iv been using rorschach as my name lately but im not 100% on it a good producer name makes u stand out if someone likes the name they are more likely to check your stuff out

  • @artisans8521
    @artisans8521 2 дня назад

    My MPC 2500 SE has JJOS2XL 3.8 on it. Result, Timestretch, check, Pitchshift, check....but to be fair, The Alchemist uses the 2500 in the state it came in. No clue why nit, but he will have his reasons.

  • @devondetroit2529
    @devondetroit2529 Год назад

    Surely the 2500 has timestretch? The 2000XL did and the S2800

  • @patkelly111
    @patkelly111 Год назад +1

    Great video ! But I’m an fl user and I can accomplish something almost identical using Edison and slicex both stock plug ins.

  • @carbonvibes
    @carbonvibes Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing Ave, really enjoyed the 2500 sound. Can’t put my finger on it but the sonics are definitely different. Great job 🫡

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад +1

      Yeah AD/DA & DAC are definitely special on older units. Even if this is a 16 bit sampler.

    • @jonesconrad1
      @jonesconrad1 Год назад

      @@AveMcree same on the 1k right ?

    • @kenzoblytheproducertv4934
      @kenzoblytheproducertv4934 Год назад +1

      Mpc 2500 sounds better,definitely why alchemist still using it,i miss my mpc 2500,dope video

  • @baewxlff
    @baewxlff Год назад

    odd how u can time stretch w the 2000xl but not 2500

  • @dalast5289
    @dalast5289 Год назад

    How does this type of workflow apply to their DAW using a simple drumpad controller like "MPD24" or anything similar?

  • @ahleempennyfeather18
    @ahleempennyfeather18 11 месяцев назад

    How did you get the loop from the live 2, to abelton? Or vice versa.

  • @tracksphantom540
    @tracksphantom540 Год назад +1

    This was fire bro please keep them coming. Can you please do a master class for all the MPC 's like the 500 to newest one in 2023😅😊❤ and the ones with JJOSXL.

  • @cabeleirazno3769
    @cabeleirazno3769 Год назад +1

    what sampler?

  • @MrJonblundmusic
    @MrJonblundmusic Год назад

    Can time-stretch on the MPC 2500 and 1000 as well...

  • @GenocidePanda
    @GenocidePanda Год назад +1

    the 2500 sound so so nice. should have put the track in mono in Ableton for a more accurate sound.

  • @sayredstudios
    @sayredstudios 8 месяцев назад

    Nothing like that AKAI though. Great video

  • @Audiolot27
    @Audiolot27 Год назад +1

    Great Work 👌

  • @ulyssesbenton9921
    @ulyssesbenton9921 Год назад

    is that feature on the 4000?

  • @mlou4902
    @mlou4902 Год назад

    This is amazing man thank you so much for posting this.

  • @Supremecipher
    @Supremecipher Год назад

    bro i lit just got my 2500 today tryna get samples and drum kits in there from hard drive or usb can u make a vid how?

  • @lawrenceboardjr.8509
    @lawrenceboardjr.8509 Год назад

    Isn’t there another way to adjust pitch and keep tempo without doing it with the process menu? So if I wanna rechange the pitch I won’t have to go thru the process menu?

  • @miscmisc1023
    @miscmisc1023 Год назад

    im not sure if you have jjos but on my mpc 2500 if i press mode and pad 11 it will allow me to pitch all pads up and down as a group at the same time as well as other edits

  • @only1content
    @only1content 8 месяцев назад

    Hey I have a Renaissance @avemcree is that a sample style I could do on my 2011 ren

  • @SekouTV
    @SekouTV Год назад

    Bruh! Legit demo video

  • @lariatolariato
    @lariatolariato 4 месяца назад

    I think Alchemist uses JJOS on his MPC 2500, which would allow him to time stretch

  • @CharlitoBeats
    @CharlitoBeats Год назад

    Nicee 🌊

  • @Rightly_Divided
    @Rightly_Divided Год назад

    Every time I see an MPC video I want one more and more haha

  • @Latiniron
    @Latiniron Год назад

    Top -can you do it with native instrumental mashine?

  • @LeedyFGC
    @LeedyFGC Год назад

    Bro where YOUR beats at? 🤯

  • @IAMISEE
    @IAMISEE Год назад

    Any advice on filming? The sound I get on the iPhone external mic is garbage. I bought a 1/8 cable to lightning to record sound directly in which is better but not by much. I was going to film and at the same time record everything into pro tools. I noticed the volume on your 2500 knob was almost at zero so I figured you were recording audio into something else. Any advice would be much appreciated. Great video.

  • @spot1119
    @spot1119 Год назад

    Did you put all your chops in the same mute group before you started recording them?

  • @nicklaserna
    @nicklaserna Год назад

    Thank you sir! This was super helpful and you have a new fan. :)

  • @stolimoli
    @stolimoli Год назад +1

    I noticed that some alchemist beats don’t seem bpm locked. Like the beat on Bundy & Sincere. The tempo constantly drifts. It’s a lot harder to make samples sound good when they aren’t perfectly on the grid already like splice loops

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree  Год назад

      Trust anything that’s sampled on the mpc2000xl or 2500 is bpm locked. The loop has to be chopped perfectly every time. Otherwise, it will sound like trash.

    • @stolimoli
      @stolimoli Год назад

      @@AveMcree I see what you’re saying. I think what he does though,is have a main loop that’s bpm locked and the intro section might be locked to a different tempo. He’s actually said in interview that he doesn’t care if the intro section is at a different tempo. I think in the case of the song I mentioned, he plays out a long stretch of the sample at a free tempo before it starts looping a section. My other point is that when you chop an old vinyl sample rather than a splice loop, the tempo fluctuates because players weren’t playing to a metronome. So even if you have a perfect bpm synced loop, drum hits and things will be off which makes it difficult to chop right. This isn’t the case with splice loops since they’re quantized pretty perfectly.

  • @Donsolo78
    @Donsolo78 Год назад

    Or you could trim it,loop it to match your tempo.then just chop equally and play pads to the tempo

  • @murphy.1947
    @murphy.1947 Год назад

    Crazy tutorial. Thank u 🙏

  • @Ray-nl1rh
    @Ray-nl1rh Месяц назад

    can this be done on mpc studio 2?

  • @intihumala9087
    @intihumala9087 Год назад

    Madlib was one of the first producers to make albums strictly using chops, J Dilla as well and a few years later Black Milk did this on almost all of his albums. If you listen to black milks "so gone" you can really hear the chop.

  • @eddsmusicuk
    @eddsmusicuk Год назад

    Helpful as always🙌