Have been binge-watching all of these videos. It unbelievable how grateful I am for this Dr. and these videos. Please continue, these will gain more notoriety.
I agree. I think Dr. D is was one of the most genuine honest caring people, let alone doctor around. And boy does he know his stuff. Was annoying how the he would say around 500 and the other doctor would say 500. Then Dr. D said around 3 and the other doctor said 2.9. Like come’on, this isn’t a competition, Dr. D said “around” geeezus lol. I could so see other doctors low key hating on Dr. D. because he is so great and well liked and just great energy.
One great step to increasing visibility and awareness of CIRS would be to bring down the cost of CIRSx. Would have loved to go this year but it’s just a bit too much. Thanks for the great info! Feel so fortunate to be a patient of R&B
Another great interview/episode.. I wish I was able to get tested for CIRS, but problem is most functional doctors don't take most health insurances. I'm just grateful to have found about CIRS/biotoxins from Dr. Eric. He's a wonderful speaker/CIRS expert.
Ozone definitely has a place in anti-microbial therapy. It's doesn't pull biotoxin to the toilet though. Glad your treatment is completed!!! WooHoo!!!!
@@thevitalityhour1371 you have no evidence that Cholestyramine (CSM) binds to vomitoxin. It's a trichothecene and it can't be bound by CSM.. Stop painting with a broad brush about toxins, they all have different molecular structures. Because CSM binds ochratoxin a, doesn't mean it binds other toxins. Please provide the published research on CSM binding to Vomitoxin.
Awesome information, gentlemen! I am doing my part to spread the word! Wish I could join you at CIRSX this year, maybe next year I can. I know you will come back with so much more great info to share.
I wish i was closer to your practice,i could really use a doc that understands how to deal with heavy load cases,i am very great full for your time in sharing and educating ,you guys that teach and preach are near impossible for me to get to ,i live in central Indiana,not a shoemaker doc in my state
I am a Licensed Clinician who specializes Mold , Lyme and i get so many patients that come from the Shoemaker Protocol actually got worse. Mold treatment or CIRS is very individual. I like the Structure of the Shoemaker Protocol but in my patient population if you try and dose my psitents at the doses you all push it will destroy my patients. My patients population is very sensitive who was worsen by these aggressive approaches.
There is definitely as are to the Shoemaker protocol and our providers will often ensure gut work, other sources of inflammation and immune modulation is on board before cholestyramine or welchol. The biggest reason for the experience you share in our clinic is not guiding the patients to getting their buildings to healthcare clean. It's an arduous process. My biggest issue with other methods is the lack of publication and data. What's so wonderful about Dr. Shoemaker's peer-reviewed, published work is it's reproducible so all get access to healing. We too see very, very sensitive patients including one's that can't even handle sunlight or room lighting. We compliment the Shoemaker protocol with many approaches (the core steps remain untouched), but until something is proven in published medical literature that allows for peer-review, I get nervous about how the patient's time, money and energy are spent relative to their graduation rate. The CIRSx Research committee is always looking to help publish honest, solid method data as many clinician bring good care to their patients but are overwhelmed by gathering data for publishing. Things that didn't consistently work are important to publish too! Let me know if we can help.
"Why are we obsessing over mycotoxins? Years and years of emphasis on mycotoxins has been based on years and years of ignorance of other factors that are more important. LET'S GET WITH THE PROGRAM" -Dr Ritchie Shoemaker. 10/16/2019 This is your LEADER speaking to you. Why are you not getting with the program?
Still with the program, this is our recent paper with Dr. Shoemaker on understanding CIRS as a potential underlying cause of Parkinson's and a the discovery transcriptomic prodrome (immune reactivity, not toxicity), that is identifiable, treatable and reversible before phenotypical expression of the illness (Parkinson's) even shows up. As we shared on your podcast CIRS is more a disease of immune reactivity than toxicity, although biotoxins are an essential part of the awakening of transcription (gene expression) of the self made inflammation and subsequent downregualtion of self made metabolism genes (fatigue and nuclear atrophy): esmed.org/MRA/mra/article/view/5788 A Transcriptomic Fingerprint for Parkinson's Disease Found in Patients with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome: Implications for Diagnosis, Treatment and Prevention It's exciting to publish research that may help eradicate Parkinson's disease. Nevertheless, the data signals are robust, but the data sets are small, lots and lots more work to do.
Dr. Jordan Peterson talked with him and demonstrates how taking cholestyramine isn't effective as it causes depression to worsen. I have talked to MANY people who have tried this "protocol" and have failed miserably. They end up just leaving and not feeling well, and you all chalk it up as a win.
This is called "intensification" and happens when doctor / patient haven't applied adequate immune modulation (at least 4200 mg of EPA+DHA fish oil) to tame the immune system so you don't get innate cytokine storms (Spikes in C4a and TFGB-1) from biotoxins finally mobilizing from fat cells, nerve cells, tissue space etc.) to liver to get cleared and finally get picked up by Chlolestyramine / Welchol. For some of our patients under our supervision we'll go up to 3 grams EPA+DHA fish oil up to 3 times per day to ensure immune modulation and we avoid intensification/flaring mood etc. We are not having these issues often with our patients, but they are also receiving sincere counsel of Step 1 "remove patient from Biotoxin exposure" (can't be building hopping during Shoemaker protocol) and ensuring bowel motility and daily BM's. We have yet to have the Shoemaker protocol fail when the steps are done authentically. Unfortunately, the first 3 steps are arduous and require sincere support for many.
@@thevitalityhour1371 The people you interviewed that "recovered" are clearly still sick. Jordon Peterson is not healed from your protocol. The one guy one guy on your podcast is talking about how he finally was able to go on one trip with his family, but can't be around any mold. He's alive, but he's not well and certainly not cured. You didn't mention the repeated use of VIP being necessary, even after being treated with the shoemaker protocol. We know that these people are colonized in the sinuses and the brain with mold. Ozone nasal insufflations are the quickest easiest way to clear the sinus, but it's always some "BEG Nasal Spray" prescribed that doesn't work. People should be BEGging for ozone nasal insufflation and it would be over in 1 minute. Blood antibody testing from mymycolab (i am in no way affiliated) is a better way to measure current and past exposure to mold.
I watched the interview. Dr Shoemaker addressed this and said how he could have mycotoxins in the nasal, which is very common, at least more than one would think. Dr. Shoemaker goes on to explain how that would produce more cytokines and in return make his symptoms worse. Thens there the steps that Dr. Doringer just explained as well. Untile one has PROPERLY done the steps, you will never know how well his protocol actually works.
@@thevitalityhour1371 I can attest to this, CSM at first made me flare so bad severe brain inflammation. I stopped flaring on it and knew the toxins were out of my system when I went from failing to passing VCS Test.
This is a good illustration of what I found disappointing about that Peterson interview. JP claimed that he was going to push back and take a skeptical view of Shoemaker's claims, but I perceived Peterson's criticisms as softball straw man arguments that were easily refuted. So much about CIRS is counterintuitive taken out of context or relies on familiarity with science most people haven't been exposed to that what I might consider legitimate criticism would just confuse Peterson's audience. CSM is a tough pill to swallow, but it's use has been well defended and proven effective, and I'm not aware of anything else that has proven as effective. It's seems to be so hard to talk about CIRS without listeners coming away receiving some kind of opposite message. Frustrating
Have been binge-watching all of these videos. It unbelievable how grateful I am for this Dr. and these videos. Please continue, these will gain more notoriety.
I agree. I think Dr. D is was one of the most genuine honest caring people, let alone doctor around. And boy does he know his stuff. Was annoying how the he would say around 500 and the other doctor would say 500. Then Dr. D said around 3 and the other doctor said 2.9. Like come’on, this isn’t a competition, Dr. D said “around” geeezus lol. I could so see other doctors low key hating on Dr. D. because he is so great and well liked and just great energy.
I totally agree
One great step to increasing visibility and awareness of CIRS would be to bring down the cost of CIRSx. Would have loved to go this year but it’s just a bit too much. Thanks for the great info! Feel so fortunate to be a patient of R&B
Another great interview/episode.. I wish I was able to get tested for CIRS, but problem is most functional doctors don't take most health insurances. I'm just grateful to have found about CIRS/biotoxins from Dr. Eric. He's a wonderful speaker/CIRS expert.
MAH ozone was the only thing which treated Babesia, so in essence, it helped complete the CIRS treatment for me.
Ozone definitely has a place in anti-microbial therapy. It's doesn't pull biotoxin to the toilet though. Glad your treatment is completed!!! WooHoo!!!!
@@thevitalityhour1371 you have no evidence that Cholestyramine (CSM) binds to vomitoxin. It's a trichothecene and it can't be bound by CSM.. Stop painting with a broad brush about toxins, they all have different molecular structures. Because CSM binds ochratoxin a, doesn't mean it binds other toxins. Please provide the published research on CSM binding to Vomitoxin.
Awesome information, gentlemen! I am doing my part to spread the word! Wish I could join you at CIRSX this year, maybe next year I can. I know you will come back with so much more great info to share.
Would love to see you next year!!!
I wish i was closer to your practice,i could really use a doc that understands how to deal with heavy load cases,i am very great full for your time in sharing and educating ,you guys that teach and preach are near impossible for me to get to ,i live in central Indiana,not a shoemaker doc in my state
I am a Licensed Clinician who specializes Mold , Lyme and i get so many patients that come from the Shoemaker Protocol actually got worse. Mold treatment or CIRS is very individual. I like the Structure of the Shoemaker Protocol but in my patient population if you try and dose my psitents at the doses you all push it will destroy my patients. My patients population is very sensitive who was worsen by these aggressive approaches.
There is definitely as are to the Shoemaker protocol and our providers will often ensure gut work, other sources of inflammation and immune modulation is on board before cholestyramine or welchol. The biggest reason for the experience you share in our clinic is not guiding the patients to getting their buildings to healthcare clean. It's an arduous process.
My biggest issue with other methods is the lack of publication and data. What's so wonderful about Dr. Shoemaker's peer-reviewed, published work is it's reproducible so all get access to healing. We too see very, very sensitive patients including one's that can't even handle sunlight or room lighting. We compliment the Shoemaker protocol with many approaches (the core steps remain untouched), but until something is proven in published medical literature that allows for peer-review, I get nervous about how the patient's time, money and energy are spent relative to their graduation rate.
The CIRSx Research committee is always looking to help publish honest, solid method data as many clinician bring good care to their patients but are overwhelmed by gathering data for publishing. Things that didn't consistently work are important to publish too! Let me know if we can help.
"Why are we obsessing over mycotoxins?
Years and years of emphasis on mycotoxins has been based on years and years of ignorance of other factors that are more important.
LET'S GET WITH THE PROGRAM"
-Dr Ritchie Shoemaker. 10/16/2019
This is your LEADER speaking to you. Why are you not getting with the program?
Still with the program, this is our recent paper with Dr. Shoemaker on understanding CIRS as a potential underlying cause of Parkinson's and a the discovery transcriptomic prodrome (immune reactivity, not toxicity), that is identifiable, treatable and reversible before phenotypical expression of the illness (Parkinson's) even shows up.
As we shared on your podcast CIRS is more a disease of immune reactivity than toxicity, although biotoxins are an essential part of the awakening of transcription (gene expression) of the self made inflammation and subsequent downregualtion of self made metabolism genes (fatigue and nuclear atrophy):
esmed.org/MRA/mra/article/view/5788
A Transcriptomic Fingerprint for Parkinson's Disease Found in Patients with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome: Implications for Diagnosis, Treatment and Prevention
It's exciting to publish research that may help eradicate Parkinson's disease. Nevertheless, the data signals are robust, but the data sets are small, lots and lots more work to do.
Dr. Jordan Peterson talked with him and demonstrates how taking cholestyramine isn't effective as it causes depression to worsen. I have talked to MANY people who have tried this "protocol" and have failed miserably. They end up just leaving and not feeling well, and you all chalk it up as a win.
This is called "intensification" and happens when doctor / patient haven't applied adequate immune modulation (at least 4200 mg of EPA+DHA fish oil) to tame the immune system so you don't get innate cytokine storms (Spikes in C4a and TFGB-1) from biotoxins finally mobilizing from fat cells, nerve cells, tissue space etc.) to liver to get cleared and finally get picked up by Chlolestyramine / Welchol. For some of our patients under our supervision we'll go up to 3 grams EPA+DHA fish oil up to 3 times per day to ensure immune modulation and we avoid intensification/flaring mood etc. We are not having these issues often with our patients, but they are also receiving sincere counsel of Step 1 "remove patient from Biotoxin exposure" (can't be building hopping during Shoemaker protocol) and ensuring bowel motility and daily BM's. We have yet to have the Shoemaker protocol fail when the steps are done authentically. Unfortunately, the first 3 steps are arduous and require sincere support for many.
@@thevitalityhour1371 The people you interviewed that "recovered" are clearly still sick. Jordon Peterson is not healed from your protocol. The one guy one guy on your podcast is talking about how he finally was able to go on one trip with his family, but can't be around any mold. He's alive, but he's not well and certainly not cured. You didn't mention the repeated use of VIP being necessary, even after being treated with the shoemaker protocol. We know that these people are colonized in the sinuses and the brain with mold. Ozone nasal insufflations are the quickest easiest way to clear the sinus, but it's always some "BEG Nasal Spray" prescribed that doesn't work. People should be BEGging for ozone nasal insufflation and it would be over in 1 minute. Blood antibody testing from mymycolab (i am in no way affiliated) is a better way to measure current and past exposure to mold.
I watched the interview.
Dr Shoemaker addressed this and said how he could have mycotoxins in the nasal, which is very common, at least more than one would think. Dr. Shoemaker goes on to explain how that would produce more cytokines and in return make his symptoms worse.
Thens there the steps that Dr. Doringer just explained as well. Untile one has PROPERLY done the steps, you will never know how well his protocol actually works.
@@thevitalityhour1371 I can attest to this, CSM at first made me flare so bad severe brain inflammation. I stopped flaring on it and knew the toxins were out of my system when I went from failing to passing VCS Test.
This is a good illustration of what I found disappointing about that Peterson interview. JP claimed that he was going to push back and take a skeptical view of Shoemaker's claims, but I perceived Peterson's criticisms as softball straw man arguments that were easily refuted. So much about CIRS is counterintuitive taken out of context or relies on familiarity with science most people haven't been exposed to that what I might consider legitimate criticism would just confuse Peterson's audience. CSM is a tough pill to swallow, but it's use has been well defended and proven effective, and I'm not aware of anything else that has proven as effective. It's seems to be so hard to talk about CIRS without listeners coming away receiving some kind of opposite message. Frustrating
You can remove me from your emailers asking to volunteer for pre and post moldy bread and blueberry studies please. 😂😂
that's funny