Christopher Hitchens on America's First Encounter with Islamic Fundamentalism
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2018
- On the question of "who started it," Hitchens brings up the Barbary Wars and the piracy and slave trade that led up to them.
Sept. 23, 2005
It's not just how much ability Hitch possessed, it's how completely he possessed it. Invincible.
This truth would now be deemed “Islamophobia”. My my how backwards we are accelerating.
A non-word
@KingMeruem-sm7wp that relates to fear of people. Islamophobia is fear of Islam. A word intended to shut down criticism of ideas.
Islam is not compatible with the west, people are blind because they don't have to live under Islam.
They were deemed islamophobic back then. I don't think a more significant portion of the population would deem it islamophobic today. The media wants people to think there's a giant divide on opinion. But it's not true.
To be noted that Galloway stayed silent as a higher intellect was speaking. Words spoken, handing Galloway his arse on a plate before his lips had even moved.
Galloway loves islamonazis
Here here Hitch!!! You are truly missed! 😎
"It was founded on the laws of the prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."
-Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), recording what the Tripolitan ambassador to London had told him and John Adams
Could you let me know where you got this quote. Thank you.
so iraq had weapons of mass destruction, right?
@@IE-cz9qq What the fuck does that have to do with this
@@IE-cz9qq😅😅😅 Thomas Jefferson is in the 1700 😅😅 . Muhammadans live the victimized game . Whats next the crusaders 😅😅
I don’t always agree with Christopher Hitchens, but I always respect his opinion
Lolllll
Wtf r u talking
Thats facts
Yes. This is a matter of fact. Not opinion. Islam drew first blood on America. On Europe and on Jews. Do not be mistaken. And their ideology hasn’t changed for the better since they lost their strength.
@@gilesbaron6893 You know nothing about history, they are attacking because they are being killed, not because they love killing.
It's pretty clear we ARE fighting them over here right now. And they keep growing and growing
Where?
No one ever claimed we weren't.
You will lose. Because you're the ones who started this.
@@alisaeed-ht9sq Mohammed is a pedophile.
@@alisaeed-ht9sq I like how most victims of terrorist attacks are not even Western or atheists. You smart people are killing your own.
Excellnet behavior, Christopher. Thank you.
Perfect example and it will never change!
Not until Islam and the Quran are lost to time.
do i understand you right, you're saying iraq has gad weapons of mass destruction, right?😂😂
@@IE-cz9qq no . We are saying that Muhammadans like to play victims 😅😅😅
How are the European Americans who became enslaved not taught in our history?
galloway made an utter fool of himself every time he went up against Hitchens.
Hitchen is a great loss to the world
Absolutely correct
What episode was this?
God I miss Hitch. 😕
Why no transcript of this? I'm arguing with an AI that says that this incident never ever happens ever. The sadly misinformed AI is trying to always say that orthodoxy is always right when this, unfortunately, is mistaken.
Did you just say you are arguing with an AI? Fucking why?
AI has been programmed to have a left wing bias.
AI for the most part is hard coded for diversity and inclusion and will simply make up lies, repeat talking point and or ignore your argument if you cut against those ideas. It’s easily proven fallible when you consider diversity is inherently counter to inclusion. For your country to be diverse of culture, each culture would need to reject the other in order not to assimilate into a single culture. Diversity is only upheld by non-inclusion, inclusion will lead to total assimilation.
I cannot wait for Grok to be released - Elon has not programmed is with these biases... will it have found enough historical documents to inform itself? Will it ignore woke click bait as false ? How can it know which of 2 contradicting versions of an historical event are true? Especially if the false versions outweigh the correct ones 100 to 1 . Will it have read the Koran. WE need an AI we can trust !
don't talk to AI about Islam or sensitive topics, trust me, you will not like what it has to say
Heavy
Rest in peace, Hitch. xo
Uh oh, my man Hitch hittin' it with some inconvenient facts....
Facts!
Thats not how you go ham.
ive been googling this and i cant find anything on this? what should i be googling?
Barbary wars/ Tripoli / Adams and Jefferson meet Sidi Haji Abdrahaman - these should get you where you need to be
What were you "googling"? .. Ziti recipes? sheesh!
@@coolmacatrain9434 i was making ziti with your mom, and your dad watche and touched himelf. is that what you want?
@@coolmacatrain9434 yea I was making ziti with your mom while she was googling my balls. Bazing
@coolmacatrain9434😂😂😂😂
Bill be like don’t make the Muslims angry just the Christians. 😅
well sure who cares if a Christian is angry, nothing's gonna happen.
@@JoeyP946He might end up praying for you. The horror!
Bill Maher's one of the few guys on the left that's pretty anti-Islam though, I'm sure he's received countless death threats
The Lancet is junk science? Not as far as I’m aware. What’s he talking about here??
100% Facts!
Western universities: "Thats islamaphobia"
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Barbary pirates consisted of pirates from North Africa and also vikings. Even a jewish pirate named ‘Reis’ was also a barbary pirate. Hitchens is fabricating history. What a shame.
Mostly Muslim, apologist.
It’s victim blaming. The irony.
common thats so bs - thats means iraq has had weapons of mass destruction? how can ppl fall so easyli for such bs?!
Us signed a treaty rather than win
Wrong. See Decatur's campaign of 1815
Wrong. Decatur 1815.
Second Barbary War.
Details that have been left out: 3 of the 4 barbary states said that. They said that because they wanted the USA to pay them protection money as other states did to be left alone. They were all part of the Ottoman empire, at the time at its peak and a key geopolitical player. Morocco, the fourth and only fully independent Barbary State instead recognized the USA as a sovereign nation and signed the Marrakesh treaty of Peace and Friendship which is to this day honoured and is the oldest unbroken diplomatic relationship in US history.
Half a truth is often a great lie.
He wasn't talking about the barbary states individually just the encounter with one embassador in London, so you can't call that a half truth. You could say he's cherry-picking but with the way you frame things, you're just as guilty of bias. The fact remains the same, it was an unprovoked attack that was justified by a violent and divisive book, no different than any other major western religion of course, but still a good example of how Islamic extremism towards the US isn't one sided.
id still argue that nowaddays western religions are VERY much different han islam
@@zumis1011I will say that he is cherry-picking. The Benjamin Franklin quote "half the truth is oft a great lie" is about cherry-picking. I think trying to disregard a history of friendship and cooperation between the US and Morocco and trying to create this narrative of the ISLAMIC WORLD (which in my opinion is not a thing, the islamic world is just as diverse and divided as the "christian world") is both deceitful and foolish. Just as a mormon or a Jehovah's Witness from the US has little to nothing in common with someone from the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian church or the Transylvanian Unitarian community, an Indonesian Sunni will have very different views on the world than a Turkish modernist from Istanbul or a Shia muslim from Iran
@@el_chico1313 Western religions have undergone reformations/enlightenments/what have you. Not so for Islam. And any "sect" you and I might consider to be reformed would likely be marginalized by what we currently consider mainstream Islam. Its adherents would be declared infidels and as such would be even more open to being killed.
@@luchadorito Yeaaaahhhh ... no. The statement, "Men are taller than women." is still true even if Britney Griner is 6'9".
Hitchens makes a good point, but fails to mention that when Jefferson complained American sailors were being enslaved by the Muslims, Jefferson himself owned slaves including several who were his own children. And of course slavery continued in America for nearly a century after that.
Relevance? Are you suggesting hypocrisy (supposing there were) undermines either Hitchens or Jefferson's point? What was Jefferson supposed to do? Not object to the enslavement of his countrymen because he himself owned slaves? Slavery was worldwide. His objection wasn't over whether slavery existed (it was a legacy institution the West inherited from the Islamic world, after all) but over the fact that his countrymen were being enslaved.
@@andrewaustin6948 the relevance is obviously that he didn’t consider his own children to be his countrymen! Is that hypocritical enough for you? He eventually did free some of them when they reached maturity, so he easily could have done it earlier. Yes, slavery was and remains worldwide, but enslaving your own children (or trading them to pay off your debts, still quite common in Africa) is vile.
@@mitchellglaserYou missed the point.
@@andrewaustin6948 You missed dinner, and now you’re hangry.
And? Has nothing to do with his point.
It's a little thick having a Brit like Hitchens talk like this about the Barbary pirates, when at the EXACT SAME TIME the British Navy was impressing thousands of American sailors, kidnapping them and forcing them to serve on British Navy vessels. At least the Barbary pirates only attacked you if you came near their territory, the Brits sailed up and down the coast of the newly independent US seizing "deserters" from US ships and even invading US ports.
So the Barbary pirates didn't kill and enslave Icelanders? TIL Iceland is in North Africa.
Thats irrelevant to his point. He is responding to "their" justification for why the islamic states did what they did.
Dude the British kidnapped American sailors after the revolutionary War. They were salty from losing
@@jackofalltrades123 The Brits regarded themselves still at war with the US,
Nothing to do with what a Book says you can do to non believers
@@frontsquats The only reason Barbary pirates didnt go to the coast of the US
was such a distance would leave them completely vulnerable to counter attacks,
and the atlantic weather. Look how many Spanish galleons were lost to Atlantic storms along the US east coast.