Xing Yi Quan Short Film (Chinese Kung Fu vs. 5 Attackers)
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- Опубликовано: 19 дек 2013
- A short film by Martial Arts Instructor Sifu Keith Min showcasing the Chinese Internal Kung Fu style, "Xing Yi Quan".
ABOUT XING YI:
Xing Yi Quan is an extremely powerful, direct, and practical fighting style. Its goal is to reach and drive through the opponent quickly, overwhelming them using bursts of aggressive, linear movement. The direct fighting philosophy of Xing Yi advocates simultaneous attack and defense, where efficiency and economy of movement are crucial to dominating an opponent.
ABOUT SIFU KEITH MIN:
Keith Min is a member of the Chicago-based LBP Stunts Chicago Action Team (www.lbpstuntschicago.com/), who most recently participated as core members of the stunt team for the upcoming action-adventure film DIVERGENT.
For more information about Sifu Keith Min, please visit these links:
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CREDITS:
Featuring Xing Yi Quan Demonstration by
Keith Min
Concept by
Jon Truei and Keith Min
Fighters
Kenny Wong
Joey Min
Matt Healey
Lang Yip
Jayson Soto
Directed by
Jon Truei
Director of Photography
Matt Morgan
Produced by
Jon Truei
Matt Morgan
Joseph D DePasquale
Camera G/E
Ace McColl
Zack Block
Justin Ayers
Mike Swaigen
Conor Murphy
Jake Ladehoff
Effects Makeup
Kristen Harding
Associate Producers
Jake Honig
Frank Truei
Editor
Jon Truei
Additional Editing
Emmanuel Manzanares
Music/Sound Design/Mix
Rich Arenas
Color Correction
Alan Gordon
Chinese Calligraphy
Rayna Lo
VFX Compositor
Josh Depew
Locations
Hunter Baker
Zack Block
Daniel Koenig Porter
Special Thanks
Identity Media
Shaun Finney
Eric R. Lim
Josh Petersdorf
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Loved the video. It showed exactly the flavor of what Xingyiquan is.
Been a practitioner and teacher since the 80s.
When you see someone treating Xingyi Quan in a similar light as Taijiquan… stressing push hands type of applications … if your interested in learning real Xingyiquan , just walk away from them.
Xingyiquan is an advance form of pugilism, it is based on dominating the opponents centerline by taking control of the angles… not by push hands, not by sticky hand … Xingyiquan does it by using attacks and counter attacks. The methods themselves seize control of the angle in play …
By treating applications similar to Taijiquan’s one also miss the syncopation and timing that xingyiquan is all about. Its creators understood tempo … Xingyiquan exist in the “in-between beats of the tempo of a fight. A simple example: people will jab (on 1) the throw a cross (on 2) for a quick 1, 2 (for two beats… ) Pi Quan does not teach 1, 2 … it teaches dominating the angle on 1 (with the rise and drill which is similar to wedge block defense) and striking almost simultaneously (with overturn and fall… ). Its not a 1 & 2 … It’s 1 &….
All Mother fists teach strategies and tactics like the above
And that’s sophistication
For all you Xing Yi haters on this post, even more to those who really have any actual skill in any other martial art. Go find a sincere long term student of Xing Yi and feel it for yourself. You are missing out if you don't. It's one of the most direct, effective, and accessible arts out there. Which is exactly why it is rarely seen in the ring. It's one of only a few martial arts in the world that have actually been battle tested in large scale warfare by a mainstream military with deadly results. And Xing Yi, along with Ba Gua and Tai Chi, can be tracked back as root arts of a surprising large amount of other established martials around the world. So much so that speaking poorly about it, to anybody with any clue, will most likely be seen as a sign of somebody is clueless.
Agreed!!
Yes
Agreed, xing yi has very real depth to it. Most practitioners never train hard enough or give up early and claim its incomplete...
I Took a hit from a Xing Yi master ! Unbearably hurt :)
I actually see Xing Yi, Ba Gua, Tai chi in the ring all the time not directly but rather the principals aren't that far off from modern day marital arts and it's so unfortunate that people miss those connections because it can be so powerful in trained hands. Often people mistake these arts as ineffectual due to the people presenting them whom don't have that ring experience but imagine someone like a mma fighter who cross trained in them.
that video was perhaps the best video i have ever seen in my life. i mean it was amazing how beautifully you captured the essence of Xing Yi, as a Xing Yi practitioner of many years now, I never imagined I would see a video such as this.
Thank you!
Loved it. Something similar should be done with Pa Kau and Taiji.
To anyone who knows anything about the subject, how would Xing Yi Quan hold up to Baji Quan? In my travels in China, these were the two styles that most often were referred to as the most practical, efficient styles of Kung Fu.
Practicing the form and do the techniques in actual combat are 2 very different things. In forms you can be more wide open and do bigger and more elegant moves, to practice body mechanics. In real fight you need to be adjustable and have good timing so your techniques are different, more practical and short.
Internal martial arts begin with internal training first and then goes to external, while external martial arts the opposite. You need both, you cant be totally internal or totally external as a martial artist. I like this video because its shows good skills at form AND shows you some practical adjustable henkas ( variations ) Battle is not a nice view and most of martial artists forget how the techniques they practice really looks in combat scenarios.
Very good job.
+Karatekasgr true , but everyone knows that. the ones who don't aren't going to get skill from reading ur comment.
sorry i just attempted to break down in detail the topis/issues u brought up in ur reply. unfortunately i made a mistake, and lost it.
too much to repeat ... no biggy. u'll find ur own way or not like all others if you have the will to do so. then u'll know the truth, and won't have to rely on what others have said or say. peace
well said
Xing to is effective yet too limited which was why the eagle claw was required. Xing to is only effective up close or in a gang fight where there isn't much open space for everyone. Xing yi is good but also kind of a incomplete art. It lacks defense, grabbing and evasion.
@@YamamotoKazuo you should check hung gar and choy lee fut, they are very effective in every situation
Just watched this video. Really great short film. I have not practiced Xing Yi since the Pandemic started. Definitely makes me want to start training again.
Regardless of how you feel about the actual art, this is some pretty nice choreography.
Actually, there's very little of it on movies. The One, The Grandmaster and that's it, really. Xing Yi actually is a very brutal style that looks ugly only to those who are used to flashy kicks and Bourne Identity movies. Forget about seeing it on film. The guys that made this video made a good attempt at capturing the practicality or power expressions of the style on a short pilot film. Very good job, actually. If you know what you're doing and you trained the right way, then you will be an opponent to be reckoned with. As usual, it depends on the practitioner and the teacher. The lineage perhaps, but it's up to each practitioner to make himself combat ready.
Regarding the Kung Fu Quest documentary, the families featured there are only used to fighting if at all amongst their own, they really don't go out there to try and fight other styles.
Drop Chinese kung fu flicks as soon as you get off the TV set. Forget them and really start looking into what you're doing unromantically. If you practice with chop socky flicks in mind, you're going to let yourself down when it's time to put your stuff to work. The same with MMA. UFC fans do not necessarily make good fighters.
Keep reality and practicality in mind when you're focusing on applications. If your goal is practicing forms for whatever other noble reason you have, be it a form collector or whatever, then don't run your mouth.
Saying Xing Yi is ineffective is an irresponsible remark. If you've been in martial arts long enough, you'd know by now that all schools are not equal or have the same focus or dedication to an honest pursuit. If you do not understand what's being done or how to use it, just shut the fuck up.
You should check out the movie The Grandmaster, by Wong Kar Wai. It's technically another wing chun movie about Ip Man, but it includes many good martial arts demonstrations and fights with masters of different styles like baji, hung gar and bagua. It also has at least three scenes that I remember that showcase the art of xing yi. Worth a watch!
For a style of Xingyi that evolved practically, to whom or to what style would you go to for such a thing?
1 of the best videos I have come across this year. Excellent detail!
This is an awesome video! Xing Yi is quite a beautiful and devastating art. Thank you, Sifu!
Excellent video and demonstration. Thank you!
This is a truly excellent short, in concept, direction, and execution.
Awesome Video and a nice in depth look at Xing Yi techniques and applications. Thank you for sharing. Great work!
I love the filming, always wanted to learn xin yi and this is like the best promo I've ever seen of xing yi, gave high respect to the art. And good to know there are practioners in nyc
Its time to put Xing Yi on the map.
beautiful...shows the power of gungfu
I thoroughly enjoyed this film. it was just on my mind to return to training, and this is helping me with the theory of visualizing an actual fight that you're having using the moves of the form you're practicing. Good work!
rather think about sparring in boxing/thai-boxing/judo/wrestling/bjj ;) and you will learn to "visualize" well ;)
This is an amazing video,very well presented and a great showcase for Hsing Yi🙏🏼👍🏼💪🏼👏🏻
what a great video.just loved it
I really like how they showed the form and combat application, wish someone would do the same for yang style Tai chi
Excellent video, very practical. EXCELLENT!!
looking good, keith! wish we could've had more bagua/xingyi exchanges. i'm still practicing the santishi you showed me.
Jon Truei great work my friend
He forget the water drilling fist. It's the most important fist in all of Xingyi Quan
very good application and routine , respect for the work .
CRUSHING FISTTTTTTTTT great slo-mo!!!!!
Awesome skill
Awesome video...that's all that needs to be said.
Aside from good body mechanics, the external visible part is probably about 5% of the art. The forms are meditative (but not 'pretty') and at first, the practice makes a person very healthy and very strong. I have seen advanced practitioners throw thousands of punches in a single workout. The idea is that you build up a lot of chi and learn how to use that energy, those that have mastered this art are deeply respected by other martial artists. If you don't know, and you run into one of them on the street or in a tournament, you very soon will. It's always a good idea to be polite and courteous regardless...
Beautiful excellent wish to see one where the fight characters are wearing traditional regional concept costumes 😍
great job i had started learning xing yi but i fell in love with wing chun and bagua!i would love to see bagua's basic 8 palms applications :P
I would love to see some bagua too!!
Very cool
Great shortfilm and showcase of application of Kata. The cinematography and camera work still holds up today.
kata is for japanese martial arts. use the name taolu here!!
My god that was cool!
beautiful.
Nice work!
Love to learn this very effective art.
This was pretty dope.
好功夫, 非常好看.
Great!
AWESOME !!! EXCELLENT !! HSING I CHUAN IS AMAZING !!
I have to agree with everyone else. Although, I'm still working on the exercise before learning xingyi. It still utilizes its stepping. It's really simple and really fun. I move faster using its stepping than I do with a regular step.
this is sick.
very nice!
pretty good film. I hope there are movies in the future that featured xing yi boxing
the grandmaster actually, it has xingyi and bagua fight each other from the same school to the death. dont want to give away too much but, you kind of figure out what direction the film is going in. its presented by martin scorcessi, or whatever how you spell his last name.
There are a lot in the 70s 80s 90s 2000s
point being splendid bit of melodrama definitely gets you interested and so what if a few armchair which think technical could be gooder? and who doesn't have a wicked fight scenario looping between their ears w/training kata?love this!
This video is the most inspiring thing I've seen all week. Thanks for Sharing.
Now to go Live my Kata and not just do the shapes.
~from a Karate-ka.
high end production
Brilliant
awesome,, i wish can learn xing yi in Indonesia,, beautiful movement, :)
Nice!!
My god! Awesome.
Awesome
Masterpiece.
Perfect
This sifu is a God among men.
Having practiced Xing Yi, I can say it is a legitimate self-defense art. However, this video is hype and choreography. No one grabs your throat, waits their turn to punch you.
can you please do a film like this for baguazhang? it would really be helpful for me as a martial artist, considering i want to learn the style.
Yeah I would love to see video of Bagua as well.
I am learning Xing Yi Quan as a beginner. For anyone that says a style is bullshit, please tape a spar or training session of your own style and post it in comments on here. It is possible that you are right and this style is complete crap but let me see the effectiveness of your style, No disrespect...
They don't need to do that. Just Google it or go to a Gym. Yes I said GYM keyword GYM. Do not go to "DoJo" or "Studio" or anything fake (traditional martial arts).
And that's my point, if someone is going to get on a soapbox and tell me a style is bullshit, I want to see them used their style fighting other styles. They can fight against Xing Yi Quan, or other styles, so I can see the effectiveness of the style. People can go all day and say BJJ, Pankration, Kickboxing, Wing Chun, Wrestling, Western Boxing etc, etc. is better and Xing Yi Quan is garbage. Ok, fair enough prove it with you sparring in your style against other "bullshit" styles. ijs
Xing yi seems to be interesting. I don't have a style, I make my own. My kung fu has a part of sanda, tai chi, wing chun and tang lang. Just take what you like and make your own meal^^
How does someone showing you footage of their style being used in a real fight have ANY relation to the effectiveness of your style in a fight?
Let me give you an analogy - say I cook a meal for the two of us, and my cooking is awful. You tell me my cooking is awful. I get flustered and upset, and say:
"Oh yeah, well show me YOUR cooking!"
And you comply. Whether your cooking is good, bad, or worse than mine, it still doesn't change the fact that my cooking sucks.
I speak french, but this... Stop google translate. you'd rather speak english LOL
Ancient chinese general Yue Fei used predominantly Xing Yi Quan in his battles against his enemies and succesfully protected the Song dynasty from being overrunned by the Jin Dynasty, so does this chinese Kungfu works? YES!
i've beaten muay thai and krav maga fighters with xingyi. its about the mindset of the fighter that will help xing yi users actually win mma fighters
Christopher Nicholas that's way xing yi in Chinese is shape and intent fist.
@@YamamotoKazuo right but I don't think many xingyi artists grasp the meaning of shape mind fist. If you read the wuxing theory, a xingyi artists mind should embrace the animals form. When attacking with Pi (split) the artist should embrace the spirit of the tiger.
very nice clip.,.from this amazing and alive martial art Hsing I Chuan.,.
,,i need more.,.,,.,,.,
looooooooooooove it
for those of you who would like to learn xinyi, we are lucky to have a Grandmaster Li Tai Liang, teaching in West Babylon, NY. He teaches five element, linking fist, shiba and a host of other things. He was born in Teigu China and is a direct lineage holder. litailiang.homestead.com/ His style is simple and direct and extremely effective.
Haha Nice work Guyz & Great Job keith
Me ha encantado.
nice job :):):)
I know Hsingi is very effective against multiple attackers. My brother whooped a bunch of guys when he was just a brown sash, his girlfriend practices, and she was jumped by two guys and knocked one out, and a class mate whooped three guys who jumped him.
Wow! Love it! He does for Xing yi what Segal did for Aikido.
the fa jin of baji with the grasping and crushing of chin a
Good! Less movement will better.打人不露形。
形意一拳杀人 - Xing Yi kills with one strike. Nobody ever said this style is bullshit. It's easy to learn and very practical.
Oh yeah! Xing Yi kills with one strike... really? Can you demonstrate it?
Easy to learn?????? Are You sure about that?
Xing yi lacks the deflection and evasion that is in bagua and taichi which could be it's weak side.
駱寒刃
Not true. Xing Yi is a complete system. In the beginning of the 20th century, xingyi, bagua and taiji were trained together as 3 parts of one whole, so the way it's trained now emphasises on attack, since taiji emphasises on absorbtion and bagua on evasion.
You either havent trained hard enough or dont have a teacher that can show you those aspects of the art.. deflection and evasion are in there but in the context of xing yi NOT taiji and bagua. Agreed XY appears externally to be soley an attacking art, but internally it relies on the same princples and sensitivities that TJ and BG use. The context and expression are different thats all.
Here's an example of what a salt of the Earth master who's been practicing Xing Yi and Ba Gua for 35 years looks like. Bear in mind the log he's spinning around his head in the middle part is much, much heavier than it looks. Xing Yi application is simple and very, very powerful. All the fancy movements are just to get your body moving, but for developing whole body power, real Xing Yi practice is hard to beat. vimeo.com/9622648
This fight is le 💣
NICCE!
This is baddassery at its finest
😮👏👏🙏
Very great cinematically. Reminicent to IP Man style opening. I liked the appli ation to the techiques by showing the practice initially. Great job.
I had use this art in close combat defence against 5 attacker
I don't think internal styles are weak or anything, but this clip was 100% made for Hollywood not the street
You've got a grasp of the obvious. Good job!
***** Yeah I never really understand why they even make it a 5v1 fight if 4 of them just jacking off while 1 gets beaten. Just do a GOOD 1v1 instead of making it look kinda stupid And I mean films in general
deanpetrow half right and half wrong. In a real street fight I don't care how good you fight , if you alone are fighting 5 people you will get at least 2 or 3 hits
Just need Baguazhang and Taijiquan. Very good video by the way.
+John Hardin there is no need to include them in a hsing i film/demo what are u puffin in dude. share please . smdh
i think he meant another video, but showing those
Would be cool a set of Wudang style
Xingyi vs Baji
Now make one
Everything looks good except Hengquan, it's not really strike, it's primarily a takedown. The application shown Heng is really just Zuan quan.
Troy Schott 30+ years of Hubei style Xingyiquan here.... Heng Quan is akin to a "drilling' back fist. Both hands performing circles in opposite directions along with the Yao cork screwing downward then torquing hard back (fajin) toward the direction it started and towards/through the target. If the opponent is close the movement can be used to throw someone,, (especially if the rear hand has something like the opponent's arm/lapel etc..... However Heng Quan is generally used for an multi directional back fist. (it comes across the body diagonally but also drills up then down or down then up) Its one of the measuring sticks for a xingyi practitioner. (i.e how much power one can generate doing it) If done correctly its brutal! But I do agree that the video is demonstrating a Zhuan Quan application.
+Troy Schott Yeah, and even for the Pi Quan, the correct application is not shown...
The wu xing are much more complex than single use for each.. once they are mastered they can become anything you want them to be..
make a movie
hm ok love it but could be just bad camera angle but genuine hsing-i is weight back not weight forward.
Newton's law of motion.
He's not fat, just strong built. Pretty sure he can mess you up.
AAAAWWWEEESSOOME.
Jake Mace
Press Start
不过不错 弘扬国术
And then he woke up and realised it was all a dream.... Yay
Just train all the time martial arts are made for the same reasons, some are only more powerful than others because of the practitioner.
+Cameron Campbell yup
Nailed it..
Wisdom
Is thid Samo Hungs son. The guy that stared in Jackie Chan kungfu Movies 80's?
Jjtalbot; if you were remotely intelligent, you would've understood that there is no top martial art. The only thing that makes an art good is its artist. You should probably look up the lineage of the art you brag about being skilled at, and trace its roots. Get back to me.
My thoughts where not as wise as yours, and I don't think I could have said it better than you have.
So many bad teachers out there too. I dont play the "this art is better than so and so" nonsense.. just find an art that has good history, suits you physically and mentally and def a good teacher then just train hard.. its all up to you
Chicago really changed, looks like New york.
kanku dai :O :O
not good covid19 spraying from his mouth after the crushing punch
拍的不错 拳架真心不好
He beat those guys ever so slowly.
I laughed harder at this than I should have