I cannot agree with your opinion on Magdalenne track. The track is very monotonne, yes, but for me that's exactly how depression sounds like and I think it is very fitting to the game. I agree with the other theme though. About the fog I would completly get rid of those cloudy things near the floor and instead densed the fog itself. Wgen I think about Silent Hill one of the firsst things that comes to my mind is that I can't see shit and I wholeheartdly love it. I think the fog should allow for 5-7.5m of visibility. About the colour profiles, I personally preffer low contrast shots in the trailer. High contrast shots were to bright for me on the highlights and so killed the whole mood of the game. They looked like something taken from modern Resident Evil entries which, in my honest opinion, isn't a direction which SH series should follow because despite both being horror games, RE is much more action oriented.
apparently some people are saying that the game footage is from last year when the game was about 40% complete. it would explain some missing elements. and the ruff gameplay.
I think you did a decent job showcasing your points, as well as provide meaningful solutions. I don't think the safe portion is too big a problem, but I will say otherwise valid criticisms without a doubt. I love SH 2 and I really hope Bloober puts their thinking caps back on and remedies the glaring problems that everyone has pointed out.
Listening to 'Promise,' it seems they've scooped out the low mids and the higher end of the low frequencies, which unfortunately makes it lack body. On a positive note, I'm pleased they decided to remove the flange/chorus effect. That effect can feel quite dated, and its absence here is a welcome change. My biggest complaint by far is the combat, the James character model looking nothing like the original, and the lying figure redesign isn’t that great.
This. I haven't seen many criticism touching upon the topic regarding the "modernized version" of "The Promise". Being in development does not excuse the fact that Bloober Team's bizarre creative vision has turned one of the greatest theme that sounds melancholic...... into some sort of crappy superhero-battle theme.
Perhaps the weathering on the safe was an artistic decision? This is Silent Hill after all- uncanny, not logical. In case you never noticed the doors in the floor. And you think there is too much fog? Have you even played the originals?
I find it funny that most people are either this is the worst thing ever or this is the greatest thing since SH4 Really like that you have a keen eye for these things
I'm a die-hard fan of Silent Hill 2, but these are all valid and constructive points. I don't understand why people in the comments are butthurt about it.
Maybe the gameplay in the trailer is for a survival mode as extra content. I am pretty sure the enemy layout and overall flow of combat will be the same in game.
The safe comment actually made me laugh not at you but a Bloober. I mean have they ever turned a dial on a safe or radial lock? They might have gone that route for esthetic reasons. But the thing I hate about defenders of Bloober is that they empathize with the studio, "Making games is hard & we should be grateful they are doing this!" Lol, I'm apathetic to companies when they are being paid to remake a legendary game, especially when they act like they know better than the original game & don't want feedback. This is their job & if they can't do their job, properly, screw them.
Artisitic freedom is the only reason I can think of why they placed scratches there,but anyone who's familiar with painting textures will know something's off. IMO issues should be aired out without regard for brand loyalty,if it helps the final product.
Heads up everyone, there's a leak from DuskGolem saying this footage is from may of 2023 so there is a very good chance all of these isssues have already been patched/polished
You are super right about promise song. Guitar is badly mixed and have shit guitar tone. Also dont like MIDI Orchestra. Bad arragement. Original was more subtle and better sounding. Also i like the safe stuff you came up with.
All I found is the trailer specifically states “in development” That kinda explains everything....I mean props to them for now putting out a real “Gameplay” trailer. Lots of companies make cutscenes and pass it off as gameplay
First minute in and you nitpick the weathering on the safe which looked perfectly fine the way it is. It is silent hill, you never know what atrocities lurk there that could weather any items unnaturally and excessively.
@@user-yw8jj2zp8s He’s 100% right. People are just mad because, in their heads, they see aaany new Silent Hill product as automatically being good by default, and thus, immune to criticisms. Just because it’s a thing they like.
@@ImTheWiseJanitor90it's not that. It's because there's just no need to address the TEXTURE on a thing that the player will see for abou 30 seconds. There's a guy wearing a metal pyramid head walking around with a giant sword. Maybe that's a texture that's wrong then?
@@diasoliveira444 It’s a video that opens with him saying he’s going to address some things he noticed that could use some work. I don’t know what you expected when you clicked on that link and watched the video. He does exactly what he said he’d do.
@@ImTheWiseJanitor90 "SH2 Remake needs A LOT of work". Expectation: "needs fluid gameplay, better facial expressions". Reality: "the texture on the safe is wrong the game will be horrendous because of that".
I understand the criticism, but you have to think about it. this is Silent Hill 2 remake, remade by the people who created Silent Hill. This game is going to be wonderful, whether there's problems or not. Not every game is perfect, Silent Hill 2 (original) was not even close to perfect, but the story, exploration, characters, music and Stiff Combat is what made the game for what it is. Graphically, in my opinion, is looking really well, but I'm pretty sure on release, they will improve.
You're forgetting the voice acting which is considered authentic and sincere... according to hardcore SH2 fans. The voice in the remake will get compared and lambasted since that's what happened in the previous remasters for SH2 & SH3 which used different voice actors from original PS2.
@@SittingBass Konami brought back Masahiro Ito, and Akira Yamaoka, those two are part of the OG Team Silent, do your research before, these two are acting like judgesfor Bloober Team, they aren't gonna allow any SH*T, because they knew SH better than us.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth That's can't be possible, simple as that, Capcom do new voices record too in the remakes, bring back the original voices, that's just a dream at this point.
One of the very rare good, constructive videos/takes on the new trailer. Thank you so much, you get a follow. Please make more.
Thanks for watching,Edvin.👍
I cannot agree with your opinion on Magdalenne track. The track is very monotonne, yes, but for me that's exactly how depression sounds like and I think it is very fitting to the game.
I agree with the other theme though.
About the fog I would completly get rid of those cloudy things near the floor and instead densed the fog itself. Wgen I think about Silent Hill one of the firsst things that comes to my mind is that I can't see shit and I wholeheartdly love it. I think the fog should allow for 5-7.5m of visibility.
About the colour profiles, I personally preffer low contrast shots in the trailer. High contrast shots were to bright for me on the highlights and so killed the whole mood of the game. They looked like something taken from modern Resident Evil entries which, in my honest opinion, isn't a direction which SH series should follow because despite both being horror games, RE is much more action oriented.
Those are fair points. Hopefully,they'll make color profiles available in the menu.
apparently some people are saying that the game footage is from last year when the game was about 40% complete.
it would explain some missing elements. and the ruff gameplay.
you guys still don't learn after a decade. Either a game is Trash or it isn't. Stop the Cyberpunk Sh** "Oh its from 2019" lol
@@yurieu5872
So if you saw footage of development day 1 you would be able to know if its shit or not?
@@dreamplace7469 go play cyberpunk baby face
@@yurieu5872 well, but he's right. Konami showed a 7 second clip of the actual gameplay and at least, the animations are better then the trailer.
@@nerostark4320 what you’ve seen it’s the final product. Don’t waste your money like you did with all these unfinished flops
Never would I have looked at that safe and thought “wow the weathering texture is a little off”
I think you did a decent job showcasing your points, as well as provide meaningful solutions. I don't think the safe portion is too big a problem, but I will say otherwise valid criticisms without a doubt. I love SH 2 and I really hope Bloober puts their thinking caps back on and remedies the glaring problems that everyone has pointed out.
I hope so too.🤞
This is very in-depth RUclips needs more of these
Thanks for watching,SeFu.👍
Makes sense for the most part, except the music track. It is a highly emotional song that still hits hard. Probably the best thing about the trailer.
Good thing it’s STILL IN DEVELOPMENT
Yes,I wish them luck. 🤞
The build from the combat trailer is from a build all the way back in May
If that's true,I wonder why they didn't show a more recent one.🤔
@@ThatOtherGamer it’s Konami
Listening to 'Promise,' it seems they've scooped out the low mids and the higher end of the low frequencies, which unfortunately makes it lack body. On a positive note, I'm pleased they decided to remove the flange/chorus effect. That effect can feel quite dated, and its absence here is a welcome change.
My biggest complaint by far is the combat, the James character model looking nothing like the original, and the lying figure redesign isn’t that great.
This. I haven't seen many criticism touching upon the topic regarding the "modernized version" of "The Promise". Being in development does not excuse the fact that Bloober Team's bizarre creative vision has turned one of the greatest theme that sounds melancholic...... into some sort of crappy superhero-battle theme.
The original version is so memorable and apt for SH2 that any deviation from it needs to be scrutinized.
there is also no blood when james smack the lying figure with the wooden plank despite it having nails
Yes,I hope they add that.
Despite its flaws i still think this will be a great game that lots of people will enjoy
Perhaps the weathering on the safe was an artistic decision? This is Silent Hill after all- uncanny, not logical. In case you never noticed the doors in the floor.
And you think there is too much fog? Have you even played the originals?
havent watched the full video but ive played 3/4 of the original games and my opinion is the opposite, there is too little fog in the trailer lol
Clicks on video breaking down the trailer
Gets mad when the video breaks down the trailer...
I find it funny that most people are either this is the worst thing ever or this is the greatest thing since SH4
Really like that you have a keen eye for these things
Thanks for watching,NobleSavage.👍
This isn't the final result, this isn't a gameplay either, not even a beta, we are just guessing at this point.
but the devs said the game is already done lol
this is mostly what you getting in final product. don't get your hops hight it's fucking bloober
@@terrycruise-zd5tw The core, not the details, can't believe you still buy news lately, a lot is clickbait.
@@icyhotsam6716 Get back to your PS2, if you can't deal with the cycle of remakes. 24 years already happened.
@@LosMSR FUCK YOUR REMAKES
I'm a die-hard fan of Silent Hill 2, but these are all valid and constructive points. I don't understand why people in the comments are butthurt about it.
Thanks for watching,Freddy.👍
Hopefully, Bloober will take some of these criticisms.
I sure hope so,I want this game to be good.
Good in depth summary!
Thanks for watching,fizz.👍
This video is a great feedback to bloober
Thanks for not giving them a pass on this, a few other videos did.
I just want this game to be good on release. Thanks for watching,citixen.
Maybe the gameplay in the trailer is for a survival mode as extra content. I am pretty sure the enemy layout and overall flow of combat will be the same in game.
This was very enlightening. Thanks a lot.
Thanks for watching,Magno.👍
The swinging animation is so bad it looks like is rig is linked to the wooden plank in FK. Jesus so much clipping :|
I checked the footage. Yes,the hand went past the plank during the windup.😬
Bro….. this the best video I’ve watched on the subject.
Thanks for watching,Qarach.👍
The safe comment actually made me laugh not at you but a Bloober. I mean have they ever turned a dial on a safe or radial lock? They might have gone that route for esthetic reasons.
But the thing I hate about defenders of Bloober is that they empathize with the studio, "Making games is hard & we should be grateful they are doing this!"
Lol, I'm apathetic to companies when they are being paid to remake a legendary game, especially when they act like they know better than the original game & don't want feedback. This is their job & if they can't do their job, properly, screw them.
Artisitic freedom is the only reason I can think of why they placed scratches there,but anyone who's familiar with painting textures will know something's off. IMO issues should be aired out without regard for brand loyalty,if it helps the final product.
Heads up everyone, there's a leak from DuskGolem saying this footage is from may of 2023 so there is a very good chance all of these isssues have already been patched/polished
Man,I sure hope so.
When they release the game it will be nothing like that.
You are super right about promise song. Guitar is badly mixed and have shit guitar tone. Also dont like MIDI Orchestra. Bad arragement. Original was more subtle and better sounding. Also i like the safe stuff you came up with.
I'm still pondering on the orchestra and why it doesn't work. I think the strings section is too wild.
I’ll wait until the game gets a release date, and we see more than 1 minute of gameplay, before I make my decision
All I found is the trailer specifically states “in development”
That kinda explains everything....I mean props to them for now putting out a real “Gameplay” trailer. Lots of companies make cutscenes and pass it off as gameplay
Yes,it's still in development. That's why the points I mentioned in the video is about the current build.
First minute in and you nitpick the weathering on the safe which looked perfectly fine the way it is. It is silent hill, you never know what atrocities lurk there that could weather any items unnaturally and excessively.
He is kinda right tho
@@user-yw8jj2zp8s He’s 100% right. People are just mad because, in their heads, they see aaany new Silent Hill product as automatically being good by default, and thus, immune to criticisms. Just because it’s a thing they like.
@@ImTheWiseJanitor90it's not that. It's because there's just no need to address the TEXTURE on a thing that the player will see for abou 30 seconds. There's a guy wearing a metal pyramid head walking around with a giant sword. Maybe that's a texture that's wrong then?
@@diasoliveira444 It’s a video that opens with him saying he’s going to address some things he noticed that could use some work. I don’t know what you expected when you clicked on that link and watched the video. He does exactly what he said he’d do.
@@ImTheWiseJanitor90 "SH2 Remake needs A LOT of work". Expectation: "needs fluid gameplay, better facial expressions". Reality: "the texture on the safe is wrong the game will be horrendous because of that".
Silent Hill 2 Remake is like "GTA Trilogy"... just a cash grab
Wanna bet that there will be NO work done?
nice video bro
Hello,Moshilifera. Thanks for watching!👍
Hello AI voice box... 👋
awesome
😎👍
#blooberteam #lesson #slow #Modified
Apart from sound effects and animations, its not that deep bro
I understand the criticism, but you have to think about it. this is Silent Hill 2 remake, remade by the people who created Silent Hill. This game is going to be wonderful, whether there's problems or not. Not every game is perfect, Silent Hill 2 (original) was not even close to perfect, but the story, exploration, characters, music and Stiff Combat is what made the game for what it is. Graphically, in my opinion, is looking really well, but I'm pretty sure on release, they will improve.
This game is being developed by a polish developer called Bloober Team and they are not resposible for the original Silent Hill game.
@@SittingBass but who’s making the combat, music, and giving pointers on the story and characters. It’s a rhetorical question by the way.
You're forgetting the voice acting which is considered authentic and sincere... according to hardcore SH2 fans. The voice in the remake will get compared and lambasted since that's what happened in the previous remasters for SH2 & SH3 which used different voice actors from original PS2.
@@SittingBass Konami brought back Masahiro Ito, and Akira Yamaoka, those two are part of the OG Team Silent, do your research before, these two are acting like judgesfor Bloober Team, they aren't gonna allow any SH*T, because they knew SH better than us.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth That's can't be possible, simple as that, Capcom do new voices record too in the remakes, bring back the original voices, that's just a dream at this point.
I hope they cancel it so the fans can just shut up. Most annoying fans ever.
Jumping on the hate bandwagon. Looks just fine. Here you are talking about scratches on the safe 🤦🏻♂️
I don't hate it,I want this game to be good. That's why I pointed out stuff that I think needs work and gave suggestions.
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