UK Class 180 acceleration to 125mph - Cummins QSK19
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- On a beautiful winter's morning, East Midlands Railway's 180113 is seen running from Bedford to Wellingborough. I was surprised to see this train pull in as I hadn't realised EMR had taken these on. This video forms part of the lockdown #TrainRideTuesdays series.
Class 180 "Adelante" Diesel Multiple Unit
Manufacturer: Alstom
Engine: Cummins QSK19, 750bhp
Transmission: Voith T312 BRE (3 speed)
0:02 - 1st gear
1:43 - 2nd gear (64mph)
3:45 - 3rd gear (94mph)
Between 4:00 and 7:20 it seems to be cruising at about 100mph. From 7:20 it starts accelerating again and hits 125mph at approx 8:50. It stays at full speed for a couple of seconds before easing off.
You known when they're doing between 50mph and 60mph as there is a deep whine (1:10-1:30 and 9:55 - 10:05). Another distinctive sound these units make is the squealing from brakes as the train comes to a halt. This can be heard from 11:10 to 11:20.
The video was 11 minutes long, but I tagged on an additional clip from Kettering to Market Harborough which has the speedometer in view and it powering only up to 110mph. This starts from 11:24
If you don't mind all the noise (I don't!) then these are quite nice to travel on - and they don't have that film on the window that blocks out the signal like the 222s do.
The best video of a 180 on RUclips by far, great work! It's a shame that these have always been plagued with reliability issues, and bought in small numbers as, to me, they're far superior to any of the Voyager/Meridians.
100% echoed my views right there! I love the 180s too, always prefer them to voyagers and meridians and would very happily ride them again!
Good to see I’m not the only one that likes them!
I have heard so many people say bad things about 180s been on them quite a few times with grand Central and never see a problem and I am so glad that I'm not the only one who thinks these are fantastic
The voyagers and meridians are far better then these
The class 180 is just exactly like the class 175
@@jordanjones7172 How so? The 180s have more power and a higher top speed; they may be from the same manufacturer and share some similarities but that's far from the same thing.
Never been on a 180 I don’t think but Voyager/Meridian sounds better imo.
One thing I miss about the related 175s is that wine sound and exhaust rumble these Coradias always make when the engines are idling, the 180s also sound very similar at lower rpms to the 175s as well.
Absolutely hellfire, I miss that screaming sound of 180s as we thunder down the Great Western Mainline!
I’m not entirely sure what services these work but I must try and go for a ride on these after lockdown ends. Great video!
They are supposed to be on the fast Nottingham services. The route is shared between these and the HSTs currently.
www.railforums.co.uk/threads/the-emr-diagrams-thread.212284/
Should be the diagrams providing EMR don’t change them.
This one was on a weekday, the 0756 from Luton Airport Parkway to Nottingham. I went as far as Leicester.
Bradford interchange to London Kings cross with Grand Central tho it is a long journey of about 3 hours not sure what it's it's like as I've only been as far as Pontefract Monkhill
Excellent Video !!!!
What beasts these are very looong ratios and very powerfull (when all engines work)
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Make a lovely alarm clock sound 😆
Great video. ☺️ This train sounds like it uses the same engine as the Class 172's but with a 3-Speed Voith gearbox instead of a 6-Speed ZF gearbox. This train would have sounded way better with the ZF gearbox.
This engine is abit stronger QSK19 at 750HP ;)
The QSK19 engine is no engine for many gearchanges (it's designed to run at a constant RPM (or slow revving)
@@AllianceB95 isn’t this the same engine used on Hitachi Fleet? Sure I saw it’s on the 802s
@@superbladeash If i remember correctly those are MTU 12V1600s 3 of them per 5 cars and 5 engines per 9 cars. (21L 750hp)
The 180s have multiple QSK19s
@@AllianceB95 one per car on a 180, 19L 750hp ticking time bomb 😂 to be fair its the cooler group that is their main weakness
@@UndergroundEric Well that's true that's basicly with all QSK19 fitted DMU's... The DB has alot of issues with the Cooling of the 612s (QSK19 engines) too resulting in many emergency idle moments and lots of coolant being used... Same goes for the Stadler Flirt Bi-Mode with them Deutz V8 diesels.... DB always tells the drivers to notch it up gently and to use the HD brake where the engine gets revved up and the coolingfan can blow away all the heat.... Usually about 4km of HD Braking to let these engines cool down after being worked to the max :)
These Cl.180s they really are pushed beyond what they can withstand... Tooo long in that First Gear at 1900-2100rpm results in the biggest strain of this engine.
Only travelled in these once. That was in early 2000s between Cardiff Central and Paddington, quite enjoyed it.
"You'll be going nowhere."
You'll be going nowhere 😂😂😂
Got to admit, these Adelantes seem to be so much better than the horrible Class 220/221 Voyagers. A train I must ride when it's safe to travel for leisure again
Voyagers are not horrible, they’re legendary.
@@louiejonesponation The only good thing about them is that the seats are comfortable. Other than that, far prefer something like a Hitachi 800/802
@louiejonesponation The 220/221 are a bit "meh", but the 222s make up for that
I Like The 220’s. A Shame Only CrossCountry Operate Them
The Class 180 Adelante are very powerful trains with a nice engine and good acceleration. Maybe you could do Class 175, Class 220, Class 221, Class 222 and Class 185.
He's done a class 185:
ruclips.net/video/HsE7AgasLGs/видео.html
Sounds like the lovely german BR612 👍
cummins QSK19 ，the same engine
Beast
Nice video I might ride these after lockdown
YOULL BE GOING NOWHERE
App used for those who are wondering: Digihud speedometer
The 2nd DMU Intercity train built for the UK and it's massively better than the Voyagers.
Wish they built more tbh. Much better than the voyagers.
@@ajf3202 Certainly better than the voyagers but diesel hydraulics are a rarity in the UK.
Voyagers don’t catch on fire, and you’ll be going somewhere if you ride em.
@@louiejonesponation Could have easily been fixed if they put some money to them.
What's the App on your phone called that shows the current speed?
Nice video though I do find 180s are slower to accelerate than class 222s.
Nice vid! What app did you use to measure the speed?
GPS speed app is ok
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15:30 What did I tell you?! 88 miles per hour
I always thought the T312 was two speed, I have only ever counted two on the 185s anyway.
Make it 3 and you're good
@@RegiRaidillonVT Found a video of a 185 shifting through full range and there are three. I guess you just can't get enough speed up on the line between Manchester and Huddersfield or Bolton.
@@FM60260 gearbox is the same on a 185 it’s just the gearing is shorter since the 185s only do 100mph
@@darylyatestransportblogs I have only ever done 30 or 35 on a 180 from Salford Crescent to Manchester Victoria so I have never experienced a shift on a 180. I have had 185s between Manchester Victoria and Bolton as well as Huddersfield and that is why I only counted two in person, I don't think I reached as fast as I originally thought on that section though. I have had 185s between Bolton and Blackpool but that was a long time ago.
Sounds like class 195 from the beginning
I prefer HSTs
i took a class 180 once but i don't remember liking anything about it
why it's sounds like mtu?
Hydraulic transmission
You'll be going somewhere now
Bruh. Is going NOWHERE
You'll be going nowhere...