They thought it was a hoax because he was known to have strong survival skills. But they still sent out a rescue team, it's not like they just left him out there to die alone.
Tyrell 😭😭 all of Australia needs answers. I’ve been following this story since he first disappeared. A lot of evidence points to his real parents or one of their family members. Someone knows something!
Icandrawz RIIIIGHT!! Exactly what I was thinking!! But also made me upset they did not take this call seriously 😳 should never take that risk with someone’s life but I also think part of them thinking “ Oh he’s just calling in to mess with us , play a little joke before he paddles up to victory! Silly ole Andrew “ .. was their way of disbelief and in very much denial of him NOT actually making it and him actually loose his life during this crazy adventure when he was so close. Very sad 😢
As a teen, I got lost in a wooded area. Obviously, I found my way back to safety, but where I eventually found my way out of the forest was nowhere near where I thought I was. That was a frightening experience.
I’ve explained to my daughter that hiking requires lots of practice, preparation and tools. I was into hiking, and like you guys I had a few scares myself. Luckily, I was well equipped. Kids nowadays barely know how to ride bikes (at least in the US). So, it scares me a bit that she’s into hiking. But, gotta let her fly. Equipment is key however.
My thoughts exactly. Also he sounded drunk/under the influence or having some sort of medical issue causing his speech to be slow and slurred like one would have during a stroke or such. Odd
@@FullMetalAtheist I would think it was because of how bitterly cold it gets. You know how your face feels when it is freezing & you're trying to talk but can't get the words out properly. I imagine that but 10X worse, coupled with the freezing waves. Poor guy!
Damn. What an absolute tragedy. Over ten years of preparation, just to capsize and die less than 20 miles from your final destination. And to top it all off, he was such a badass that when he made the distress call, nobody took it seriously, so they didn't even bother to send a full-scale search party until it was too late. That's awful. My sincere condolences to his family and loved ones.
For real man that one made me so sad 😞 also made me angry that no one took it seriously I mean it clearly sounded like he was very cold distressed and in need of a RESCUE. Considering how close he was to his destination he could have been saved maybe if they tried to search right away :(
@@kaiynatfatima5976 Yeah, I couldn't agree more, my friend. The rescuers really botched this one. The man was literally world-renowned for being one of the most talented long-distance kayakers on the planet, so when he phoned in on the emergency line and specifically said "I need help. I really bit off more than I could chew this time," they absolutely should have known to take him seriously. Without a doubt, the poor fella should still be here sharing his awesome adventures & stories with us.
@@kaiynatfatima5976 his family thought he was joking like? Does he lie about these stuff all the time that his own family won't take it seriously? I mean, come on.. why wouldn't they take it seriously..
Yeah, it awful. Also seeing his comments in his video diary, I can't imagine how those last moments were. Being taken by surprise by a rogue wave when you're dead tired and your resolve has been weakened this much. So sad. I wonder if his emergency locator beacon failed, or if he just didn't have the chance to use it, as it was in some awkward position inaccessible to him when he was drowning. I really hope his family are okay. Him realizing "I have so many people waiting for me" is heartbreaking to hear.
He sounded like he had a stroke, speech was slurred. My mom had same speech before she went into a coma. He probably was disoriented and couldn't activate emergency equipment. Very sad😥
I have zero sympathy for parents who partake in high risk activities (including their spouses who sign up w/high risk takers and bring children into the world). I guarantee he wouldn't have done it if he was the last person on the planet because there wouldn't be anyone to sing his praises for his dangerous feats and give him all sorts of pats on the back for being FIRST at this or FIRST at that and then everyone can tell their children to keep their chins up, at least they died, doing what they loved to do (for themselves). Selfish adults!
@@isabellind1292 Of course he knew the risk and did this despite that, what's your point really. I understand not helping in the death zone in the 8000+ meter mountains (K2, Everest etc...) where it's very dangerous to save someone. In this case, why on eath shouldn't you try to help? Is the cost of rescue that important to you? Do you lack empathy? Unless you expect us to stop sending ambulances to check on obese people, or people with lung cancer caused by smoking, you should be careful with the pointy finger. The lines will get very blurry afte a while when you start deciding what life deserves to be saved or not.
@@missJolie85 Don't misquote what I wrote so you can try and use it against me since you cannot cite anywhere in my comments that I said anything remotely related to his or anyone else's rescue just so you can lecture me on something you needn't! You and your pointy finger. WTF is wrong w/you?
What really sucks is THAT close is when he realized he might have bitten off more than he can chew. He said it on his video they found. He just wanted to make it in one piece. How sad :(
@@MrTHAUniverse facts they 100% murdered them because they saw two women alone in a forrest. Nobody could hear or help them if some wild men wanted to rape and kill them
@@mahmutdemir5024 this is one of my biggest fears in life. Every time I say good night to my parents or my wife, I have this anxiety about not finding them alive in the morning. So I hug them a little tighter, just in case.
@@SalahEddineH live best of your life with them bruh.. Love, like, show them passion, compassion... Bcoz one day all of us will hug some people last time even if we dont know it.. This is a scary reality :/
Yeah it's exactly what I think. I also think the branch with the red bags attached to it (looked very deliberate, with knots and all) was made to wave/signal for help, in case of passing aircrafts or something. (Some suggested the shredded paper was also used to spell out SOS or HELP or something). I just can't imagine the fear and horror of the situation. You're sat there in the wilderness at night, maybe injured (some suggested one/both of the girls slipped down a ravine a night and got badly injured). You hear jungle noises and the only way to know what is around you is to shine the flash in that direction and hope the split second of light you get is enough. Maybe they met with foul play, maybe they just fell to the wilderness. I'm not sure. What I'm sure about, is that their last days were probably terrifying.
@@SalahEddineH Either that, or the photos were taken by someone who wasn't them. Remember, the camera also had a picture of the girl's bloodied head. Maybe someone was taking a photo to remember or something? Who knows. In the end, it's tragic.
@@ijnyamato643 while definitely possible, it sounds less likely to me. The photos are definitely eerie and give off a weird vibe. But I would think a person taking trophy photos would be more deliberate with their pictures. Not take 90 pictures of dark jungle. A small digital camera with flash can definitely take a photo of a human body in total darkness, instead we get these shots where the camera doesn't seems aimed, but instead just used as a light source. The photo of the bloodied head, I've read about it, but I've never seen it (maybe it was withheld by the police), the only photo I've seen shows hair. Maybe they look a bit redder in some places, but I see nothing that definitely looks like blood. I think that photo was also taken for light, one or both of the girls needed to look at some injury, to see how bad it was. It's what I would do. I use my phone to take a closer look at my injuries even when not in total darkness. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems to me that a killer taking trophy shots would take more deliberate pictures, and also *TAKE THE CAMERA with them.* It's a small thing that can easily fit in a pocket. Why leave it? What could possibly have happened that made the person give up the backpack? My personal theory is that a kid from the village found the backpack, maybe even next to the dead bodies, and took it home. Then got scolded by his/her parents for taking it, and that's how someone in the village was asked to turn it into the police, or they told the kid to throw the bag into the rice paddy where the woman said she found it. But yeah, I can definitely be wrong. I'm just theorizing here. Cheers!
@@bozm8744 I'm personally thinking that as it got dark the girl got hurt using the camera as a flashlight and the friend took the picture of her head to see how bad it was, and as most all people know blood attracts animals, or maybe cannibals who knows, it's a sad and weird story none the less, the fact they found the foot still in the boot makes me think animals or people because it would have had to have broken her leg off, with the bleached bones I think big animals such as large cats, they will hunt and eat in the same place untill the meal is gone or another animal came and finished them off after the person or animal injured them and they couldn't fight it off. Without more information noone will ever know, being that it was a trail in the middle of nowhere essentially who knows what other people could have been following them knowing the area better than them and attacked then when they got the chance, I think that's what happens and the "random" photos were pointed towards the noises they were hearing from people waiting to kill/hurt them, and it never said if the girl who's head was bleeding was still alive in the picture or if some morbid person killed her and took it, also the fact that some of the pictures were behind a rock makes me think they were hiding from someone/something.
Why on EARTH would you think Andrew was either calling in, or hoaxing your loved ones judging from that call? Absolutely insane. Poor bloke. New to your channel and loving it. Subbed! 👍🏻
Honestly. I've listened to/watched so many podcasts/documentaries on it and it still boggles my mind. What's your theory?! Mine is foul play but.. It's so hard to say. It bugs me that some pictures were deleted from the camera roll.. But then why wouldn't whoever take the whole camera?! Poor ladies. My prayers to their families 🙏
To me after reading all the data timing and phone records there is nothing creepy about their disappearance. They were in trouble, tried to get signal for their phones, time passed one of them died of injury another died of hunger. I don't know why people like to create imagination and controversies.
@@cy4330 Thanks for your opinion! That's VERY possible. There's nothing wrong with questioning something you don't understand. We just gotta harness the ability to be able to look at all sides and realize when we're wrong. That's all it is. I agree that sometimes people get carried away with their theories.. Especially without looking at all the evidence. Anyways, thanks again for your comment. I like being able to look at all aspects of situations and hearing others opinions that have done the same. Take it easy. 😊👊
For the second case I definitely feel like the tour guide the girls were supposed to meet up with should be examined more closely. There were already reviews of him being weird/pushy with female tourists in the past, and he even "jokingly" told the one tourist about cutting her legs off after she kept rejecting his advances. He knows the area by heart and would easily know areas that are off the path, and even more dangerous areas of the region, perhaps to stage evidence. For example leaving the backpack outside that village, when it wasn't there the day before, to make it seem like the girls had traveled further than they really did, in an effort to mislead police. And stage evidence in a way that made it look like maybe local tribes or something murdered the girls. And maybe the deleted photo from the camera was one that showed him in it. Plus it is very odd how only some remains were found. I know one common theory is that animals might be to blame for the remains being incomplete, but I think the guide used his machete he always carried to dismember and scatter their remains throughout the jungle. The severed foot in the shoe especially makes me think that.
Dang this theory sounds like the most accurate one I’ve seen so far my original theory was that the girls ran Into a tribe that then killed them and took those night photos and the picture of the girls head then place all the evidence so that it would remain a mystery forever
Im from panama and actually i can agree that some people of the country side are sex maniacs. Also, something to be noted: this country is corrupted as hell. I can assure you that the government would hide lots of evidence just maintain the country’s name clean because it practically lives off of tourism.
I agree, you can't trust never people like that. You don't know their intentions, there should be someone from the Nederlands supervising that guy or sth
@@mgamingyt9558 The night photos randomly taken were probably taken so they could see the threat. I think they were taken and held hostage or chased for a while because of all the calls for help on their phones. I think it was over 70 times they tried to call for help. I can't figure out the missing photo though? The guide would be a very good suspect.
Same. However I just got a phone from my daughter and it stays charged for several days if I dont use it. I can go to bed without charging it and it's still on 70 the next day. I'm loving it.
kris and lisanne’s case has always been one of the most interesting i’ve ever heard. those poor girls, they suffered for so long knowing they were all each other had, and then they died together to God knows what. such a mysterious case, and I don’t believe there was no foul play at hand. whatever the case may be, rest in peace kris and lisanne.
I reckon they ventured too close to the tribe or maybe wild animals, with the body parts they found its very possible they got lost and inevitably got eaten. Though with the pictures they have I also reckon somebody may have kidnapped and tortured them, it doesn't make sense but when you look at everything it's possible edit: after watching the rest of it, foul play or a third party person was definitely involved
i think it could go either way- accident or foul play. i know there are a lot of weird aspects to the case but sometimes weird things happen before/after someone dies on accident. its like that family that went hiking in california just to die of heat exhaustion, people thought it was weird but it really was just an accident. or that kendrick johnson case where pretty much EVERYONE is convinced he was murdered but it just turns out a lot of the events before/after were just unusual if you really look into it. the world is weird, and we cant account for every little thing that happens in it.
@@someidiot420 when it's weird, it's usually someone really clever who did it. In the second case you mentioned, what's "weird" is, the dead one is black and the white guy's dad is FBI 😂 formula for magical things to happen.
I don't care how much of a daredevil Andrew was. You got a distress call from a man saying where he is and that he's sinking..............attempting a feat that *no other human* accomplished. Why the hell would you think it's a joke?
This is exactly why so many people died in the titanic. There weren't enough life boats because the creators belived it was unsinkable and wouldn't need as many. People make huge understatements due to being blinded by the belief that the best can never fail. Even if someone is an expert they can still make mistakes. I guess it is just human nature.
I think Andrew was a bit selfish. May he rest in peace, but why would you attempt something so dangerous knowing you'd be leaving behind your wife and son. I wouldn't put myself in that danger. I guess that's the difference between him and I.
IKR what do they mean a hoax? I thought maybe that was just the family's way of dealing with it, a sort of denial thing, but how and why would someone fake a call for help?
@@CrappleFartini The amount of fake calls is probably insurmountable because humans are just dog shit but the dogshit humans also should’ve felt or even just heard the severity in his voice if they just tried a bit harder or took it a bit more serious he would still be with his family today so I agree
where do people get money and then get the time off work to do this? are most of these "adventurers" who have all the latest gear really trust fund kids or wealthy people? I'm like dirt poor so I don't quite understand how this is possible (not the physical demands, the financial)
*I don't care if I look like an idiot but when someone calls and tells me they are in trouble then I WILL call the authorities because it's better to know later that you were pranked rather than knowing the person who called is now dead.*
You at an idiot cause you never been to a jungle you can have iPhone 20 and you don't get connection you think there's satellites in jungle with thick trees
Gary Box was my dad's cousin. I literally had no idea this video even existed until I saw it in my recommended just now..... I was only a year old during 9/11 so I never met him. The photo in the thumbnail was also on the front page of USA today at one point but its amazing that this video has 10 million views. I'm glad lots of people know about his story and how brave he was. I see Gary's family sometimes for holidays and gatherings and can confirm they are doing well.
the firefighter Gary Box is my uncle, and a dear friend of my father. My Dad would tell me stories of them both joking around near the BBQ. My older brother is a cop and I'm a former Marine while my father is a doctor constantly working in the Covid units. My family looks back on Gary's heroism and tries to carry on serving our communities and country with honor.
I'm so sorry. I hope you're family is doing well. I hope they find him soon, or may he rest in peace. Stay strong. You men can do this you're very strong people. Thank you for your service.
may God bless you and your family. and may your uncle be resting in peace. you will meet up with him again one day. your family is full of heros.(you too!!).
@@porschabrewer2602I don't know if you watched it properly but he was a firefighter in 9/11 hun, unfortunately he won't be found. But he was a very brave man indeed.
@@mariapardo9137 Kris and Lizan possibly being murdered and eaten makes sense to me. I couldn't help but think that after the narrator brought up that they found a foot and a pelvis. No one knows who could be out in those jungles and it's terrifying.
@@mariapardo9137 If it's true that there are cannibals, then it's probably that. The cut off foot could back this up as well. With the pelvic bone. But you know what, this couldn't have happened to them if they just followed the sign not to go any further. There is a sign, fucking follow it. They may not be stupid, but they were stubborn. I feel bad for them, I really do, but shit man. This is why I always put emphasis to follow the rules, specially for things you don't have clear knowledge in, like jungles.
@@faultline3936 thats why the sign is there. Panama's rain forest is no joke, it all looks the same and when panic sets in you are doomed. I've been to the treck that they went, always with a guide. They are very stern in saying stay in the maked path. Every single person that lives there warn you to stay in the path Hence why the dog returned. They were sadly very very stubborn.
kendra williams I agree, every case must be difficult and sad for their families, but man... cases involving children and elder people brake my heart 😪🙏
@@alecb8509 Risking makes history, don't matter if it's dangerous or not there are many people out there risking their lives for peace. Peace is an example of people's hopes and dreams. He's never selfish because he's not doing it for fun, rather he's doing it staying true to his path. Never insult a man with a dream, if he ever accomplished that dream you would most likely give him some honor or praise.
Every time I hear about Lisanne & Kris' story, I'm just left with so many unanswered questions. The photo's they took are so strange to me- my immediate thought is that they were trying to use the camera's flash to get an idea of their surroundings. But when it comes to the ripped up paper & mirror on the rock, could it be possible they were trying to signal for help? By taking flash photos in the dark, maybe they were hoping someone near by [or even farther away/helicopters] would see the flashes. Maybe they used the mirror to reflect those flashes skyward somehow...? Based off the nighttime photo's it's pretty clear that they're all taken within the same little area. It's been mentioned in other sources that Lisanne wasn't feeling well prior to the hike & also had a minor injury to her leg from a possible volleyball incident. If they'd been hiking around for hours all day I wouldn't doubt her leg would have been at least a little bit sore or tender. The trail seems to start out relatively easy to traverse but after a certain point it becomes noticeably more rigid and rough. I wonder if it's possible that Lisanne or even both the girls took a tumble somewhere further down the trail/off the trail and got injured to the point that one of them couldn't move easily. If I were hiking in the mountains somewhere with a friend and I got hurt so badly, it would be hard for me to let my friend go off without me in search of help. Especially if it were getting dark/was already dark and stormy. I'd be scared out of my mind at the thought of sitting alone in a forest and beg my friend to stay with me. Maybe that's when they tried to contact emergency services? In situations where you find yourself lost, it's often said that you should "stay where you are" so that rescue can come find you, and to not continue wandering incase you become more lost. I like to believe that's why all of those photo's are of the same area [the trees and branches and view of the sky]. All of those photos were taken like 7 days after they had initially gone missing, I believe. That's 7 days of being in a rugged area covered in forest and mountains with no cell service. 7 days of being lost without proper clothing, food, and shelter from the elements. And one or both of you are too injured to find help. April 3rd Lisanne's phone dies and the rest of the call attempts are made from Kris' phone. Based off the photo of the back of Kris' head, I think maybe something happened to her. Maybe she lost consciousness or was succumbing to the elements at that point. Lisanne was probably the one trying to unlock her friends phone, and couldn't unlock it because Kris wasn't in any condition to communicate her password. Thus the multiple failed attempts to gain access. As for the questions surrounding the neatly folded shorts; it could be possible that someone completely unrelated found them down the river and folded them in plain sight so whoever lost them may find them again. [I've seen plenty of instances where lost gloves, scarves, jackets of the sort get hung on tree branches or placed somewhere incase the owner retraces their steps and finds them]. I could write down a lot more, but this is all just my own personal opinion formulated off of different sources. RIP Kris and Lisanne. TL;DR - As mysterious as this case seems, and the only other companion of the girls was the homestays dog [who unfortunately cant share its POV of the story], I think the entire thing was a case of misfortune after misfortune. One or both of the girls slid or fell off the path and got so badly injured that they couldn't move easily to find help. They stayed where they were in hopes someone would come along and find them, only for days and days to pass while exposed to the elements & no cell service, ultimately sealing their fate.
You're forgetting the pants. One of the girl's pants were found dry and neatly folded and placed on a rock. That practically solves the entire mystery. They were obviously captured and r&ped, most likely by a tribesman.
This is absolutely the most logical of conclusion without actually being there. Most people have these wild ideas of stalkers and wild men who eat humans ... Illogical thinking by people who have wild imagination. Your explanation mirrors my own. Rip to these two young ladies. What a sad story 💔
I haven't watched the video but from I understand this guy probably made some fake calls before - for some laughs. That's why no one took him seriously cus they thought he was fooling around. Or maybe they were angry at him for doing this type of shit all the time. I just don't understand why he didn't call the police or some emergency rescue team ( I would have saved their number if I went somewhere isolated and dangerous) cus it's their job to find and rescue the person as fast as possible
I feel like it could be someone trying to use the flash to see in the dark or something. Or maybe if the tribe theory is real, they found the camera and were trying to see how the camera works? But yeah, those photos really gave me chills. Those poor girls. 😔
@@lainekrueger2183 Not entirely impossible, but the camera was inside the backpack found at the creek. I don't think a monkey would snap a few photos and then place it neatly inside a bag and just leave it there.
These missing person's cases are all so very sad. 💔 The "not knowing" has to be absolute torture. Sending love and hugs to all of the families of those missing, and of course, the missing as well. 💗💕💗
You know something, i almost skipped through the two girls missing because i have heard the story so many times but Mrs Lutch, you have included so much more detail i have not heard before that i had to keep listening Thanks for the addition content 😎👍
The photographs the two Dutch girls took at night are actually terrifying - they used the flash because they knew someone/something had alerted them and they were trying to find where it was hiding in the darkness. Very scary that you can't even go anywhere in pairs.
Shuddering to think about what poor Will Tyrell may have suffered. Snatched right out of the front yard. What a bizarre and awful thing to have happen. Such an innocent and sweet child.
i remember when it happened. I mean i really hope his living his life unknown about who he is but i don't think so. we drove past the town when going to QL. and it just felt like gray if that makes sense
They DID take his call seriously. The "oh it was a hoax call" is a complete fabrication just to make a story out of it. It was all over the news here in NZ.
Like what's the point of having option of making distress call when it's always seen a joke or hoax. *has distress call option* *someone makes distress call* *surprised pikachu face*
this video was just insanely awesome! Your voice in this video sends chills down my spin along with the editing and music makes this video so creepy. Great vid!
The two girls that went missing, doesn’t seem like much a mystery. Sounds like somebody abducted them, killed them, and disposed of the body parts weeks later
The world was unfair and brings a mysterious future among us. You got to pay for freedom to hide yourself in protection, watched over and being watched. Those who weren't watched, can always have an advantage within their lives.
What’s scary is the only one who might know what really happened to Kris and Lizzanne is the host families dog that returned to them without the girls.
They responded, and started searching immediately. It is simply that things can happen really quickly when the ocean is a factor. It is also not about the suggestion that they did not believe him when he said he was in trouble. They just did not think they could get to him in time to save him, because the Southern Ocean is a really cold body of water even in summer, and it will kill people quickly when the body deteriorates. Which is a sign that Andrew was not fully prepared for the attempt like he thought he was, because the NZ side of the Southern Ocean might as well be Antarctica for how cold it gets. Especially when Milford Sound is the southern most settlement, and it is described in summer like anywhere from a chiller with a breeze, to a freezer in a gale. He basically needed the polar gear that Antarctic researchers use to get here safely. Which we all know he did not have. That is not his fault; he just did not conceive that the cold was his biggest challenge.
See that's where my head goes too. They always talk about them being gone. But what about the horrific stuff that must of happened to them before the head and bones were scattered. Sickening.
@@bittersweet728 I don't know about murder. they were still alive for at least 6 days after. why would anyone keep them alive and let them use their phones to send out emergency calls?
@@jimskeuh ok so I know how this will sound. But I watched a video on a physic and she was getting that they were fed water and fish. Apparently it cleanses the system? If they sold organs then ate the rest since they don't waste. Again I know exactly how I sound. That's just what I watched. And even if I'm wrong I'm almost positive they suffered whether they were alive for days or alive until they weren't.
@@jimskeuh Having fun hunting them? Who knows what these tribe people were thinking. And obviously you know, that there isnt going any calls out of that jungle. Just a thought tho
it's always creepy when a dead person makes a statement that actually stands the test of time, like saying "You will never find him" or "You will never know what happened" and then years and decades later it remains true
I think Timothy's mom took him out and showed him a good time, showered him with gifts, and killed him. She had that "if I can't have him nobody can," mentality.
I don’t think she would do that she really loved her son I think she was just planning this for a long time and didn’t want to leave her child alone with her husband yet she still wanted to die so she might’ve given Timothy up to another family
@@donnaporter5406 no, it's ridiculously easy to hide a body. It's not the movies where they are found in a few days or that night. There are so many factors that go into finding a body I wouldn't be surprised if they don't find bones for a 100 years
Regarding the disappearance of the two girls in Costa Rica: although you cannot change the fact that they are both confirmed dead, you can still track the whereabouts of the recovered phones through GPS. All smartphones have a GPS in them; the phones were still active after they were found, hence, you can track exactly where the phone was every minute of the day. (Google maps does this too: it will show you every place you have been since turning on the phone. I've used it for addresses I can't remember; cops use it to track a criminals activities) It won't bring them back, but it may reveal a bit more information about how the backpack ended up miles away from where their remains were found.
Huni, skipping the details of my own experience think you will find a lot of people somehow escape punishment or even being exempt from question. In the UK the " authorities " can not be trusted so how can anyone
@@thefinalsay8330 I believe they meant people who kidnap any person but especially children and especially when they harm them in any degree. Not just bullying us.
You sound like a newscaster. Your voice is so clear and concise, like you put a lot of effort into making your video sound educational and informative. I respect the dedication.
William Tyrell is still a big case and often talked about in Australia. Many theories have come about and everybody has their own opinions on it. Sad that a little boy has lost his future, and that they have never found a body, but hopefully on day the case will be solved.. for the sake of his parents and sister at the very least.
@@teefarox92his foster mother’s charges are irrelevant to William’s case. Tho his parents are still druggies and can’t keep their other children out of the foster care system they hate so much. Go figure.
@@et9120 I totally agree. I for some reason, get the feeling that Cannibalism is involved after seeing the remaining body parts with little or no flesh attached.
Fire fighters and all people at 9/11 were murdered by the American government who answer to Satan, 9/11 and the pentagon were printed on 20 dollar bills before the event happened, you have to fold the notes in a triangular fashion to see the building burning. The Strangest thing is this, if you look at video footage of the buildings burning its identical as if they printed the notes directly somehow from the video footage. i can understand a so called terrorist plan to destroy buildings but how is it possible to get an exact image of what it would look like before the event happened?????? is time travel possible?? The reason why we know Satan is involved is because the fold on the notes the triangle has to be facing down to see it, which is the sign of Baphomet and his evil sinister plans to murder innocent people. The weirdest thing is still to unfold. See the new 10, 50, 100 dollar bills, it depicts the future, New York is to be Nuked, a massive tidal wave is seen and a nuclear sky in the background a wave going over a 7 story building and New York destroyed and many dead, it also shows us the Hoover dam being destroyed by a man made earth quake, and this has not happened as yet, its on our future it could take place anytime for now and its 6 June 2022 as i type this message, again the triangle facing down telling us that Satan is involved in this sinister plan. Satan wants your soul and will get it if you are not paying attention. See kelsey Dawson on youtube for more info on how to save yourself before the end times! I pray and hope that each person reading this will choose to be saved by God the most high! this is not a joke check the notes out for yourself 9/11 and pentagon were printed on US currency in 1996 5 years before those events took place and it happened! maybe if enough of us the people looked into this maybe we could prevent this from ever happening??? but i doubt it! from someone who knows!
I'm SO confused by people who go to a foreign country they have never been to before and "see what happens". "We might stay a week, 3 months who knows? Might teach a little"... like what?
lol I did that when I was in a long distance relationship (Now married and living together) I flew to Korea only knowing him and not knowing the language so I really put my life in his hands.
My friend's been teaching in Korea for three years and will probably stay for another two. She also taught in Istanbul. She's loving it. It's fine if your careful.
@@charlesradford7495 " You're " ... not ' Your ' Before all you people knock Kayak Andrew Video reply's, remember this man had a wife and child.. who are devastated by the loss of him. He should have attempted this long before he decide to marry and have children.. He was not a hero of any kind but a selfish and self-centered attention hound.
It wouldn't make any sense for the woman to give her kid away if she was scared of losing custody of him. And then to kill herself guaranteeing she won't see him again? Chances are she killed him. Horrible.
I agree. Sounds like a classic psychotic break. She killed the boy so she could keep him or whatever she rationalized it as, then killed herself out of guilt (or to be with him).
Sigh I might sound insensitive and cold. Dealing with people of depression is tough. The feeling is like carry a volatile liquid when accidentally touches the forbidden area, it will boom 💥 casualty of themselves and those around them. A gestures or a word can trigger them to kill themselves and think radically. Sigh
Animals reduce a corpse to scattered bones within days and the jungle's heat and humidity makes it happen even faster. It's not strange that their bones were found that way, given the area in which they died.
@@sarataha5095 they said she was bleeding there. She probably told here friend that the nack of her head hurt, and they took a flashlight photo to take a look at it. If they just used the flashlight without taking a photo it would drain battery, so they just took 1 photo. Of course this is just my guess and cant be confirmed
In 2005, a girl from Europe decided to travel Syria all by herself. A few days, she was reported missing from the hotel she was staying at. Lesson to girls, NEVER travel to a country you aren't familiar with or don't have any relatives. Those 2 girls surely were killed.
Be careful, they might take this in a sexist way and attack you for it. I wish women would open their eyes more and actually realize how fucked up humans (especially men) and the world can be.
Reminded me of Magdalene Zuk. She traveled to Egypt from Poland alone and some unknown things happened (there is also video footage) she ended up jumping/being thrown to her death out of a hospital where she should’ve been safe. It’s a mystery what really happened. She was healthy and mentally stable before leaving home but once she was there she acted strange. Very sad. Both cases.
I’ve got 2 theories for the girls 1) they did indeed get lost. One sustained an injury. They used their phones and camera as flashlights and tried to conserve battery while calling for help. One girl died, the other tried to get into her phone (her phone already being dead) and that explains the failed attempts. Deleted photo possibly the result of a glitch or some other technological explanation. The backpack put together by natives who stumbled on their remains and left it for the villagers. No foul play. It should be noted it’s not true that the Jean shorts were found zipped and neatly folded. 2) Foul play but not by locals. Someone with technological experience and familiarity with the area took an opportune moment to stalk and attack the girls, possibly after they got lost or injured some other way. The girls were kidnapped and lord only knows what the perpetrator did to them. He kept them somewhere away from the elements, with trash nearby. He deleted one photo and maybe even took the others at night to confuse any investigators. He removed their clothing, put their belongings in a backpack as some kind of messed up calling card. And he got away with it.
I always think about that when I'm about to do a dangerous trip. Some weeks ago I climbed a hill and met some people there that helped me get to the top, and it was awesome, but really dangerous. Risks of falling were high and I even though about going down in some parts. It was at the same time scary and amazing so since that day I've been thinking about inviting some friends to go there but i always get that horrible feeling that it's so easy to fall from there but yet the reward is so unique so I'm still thinking about it.
@Brendan 5629 999 you mean i presume you're talking about something satanic? Yes its 999 not 666 And lucifer come from "Luciferin" not the devil luciferin is what gives fireflies their glow.. You learn something everyday! 😊
Good theory but i think it's that tribe near the trail they took that was off of it and they found them and hurt them ams they ran off and then large animals killed them and the tribe people came and spreaded their bones as a warning to others
Agree, I’ve always thought they were killed. I think whoever murdered them were using their phone to take the night time photos, to make it seem like they were still alive. There are so many things that point to foul play in this case, it’s too bad no justice will ever be served.
@@princeravnos6705 the problem with the tribe theory is that those trails are apparently for tourists. The evidence presented in the video makes it seem like the people they came in contact(in any), had knowledge of how technology works(phone, cameras). What probably happened is that they ran into some dangerous people(locals) and the rest is history. You just dont walk into a rural parts of a 3rd world country and just expect everything is going to be fine. To think they went hiking in an unknown area, without a guide is idiotic at minimum. I also partially blame the host family for apparently not portraying the dangers of doing this alone.
The woman who committed suicide killed her son. Making statements like "He's mine" and "he will be with me" after taking him on a vacation for a kid, buying toys was her way of making him happy before killing him. It probably alleviated some of her guilt as well. Very sad.
I thought that maybe she selled him for drugs because they found out she died on too much of "medical" stuffs idk but is it just me or did anyone else almost cried of hearing those stories
Also the whole he will be taken care of and you will never find him also could mean that he is dead and buried and is now in heaven being taken care of by God or the term taken care of like as in killed
@@ducklingchief8289 exactly. some remote jungle tribe would have no idea how to open up fotos on a camera and go thru them to delete what they wanted to. some pervert couldve been following them for gosh knows how long. they girls couldve even got severly deydrated, walking for hours in the sun and heat, and died due to dehydration. maybe thats why one pair of shorts were neatly folded - one of the girls couldve taken them off to try to cool her body temperature down, and died from the heat and dehydration. maybe there is no sinister reason for a photo to be deleted. its a mystery that is most likely never to be solved.
@@aliwadani5970 I am not white and have done it plenty of times. I am Dutch. We travel all over the world. This trip to Panama the girls did plenty of Dutch people have done. I went to Panama by myself as well. Whenever you travel just like when you stay in your own country you just have to be careful. I wouldn't go into the jungle alone or only go to places where it is save enough. The same goes for when I am home in my own country. You don't visit certain areas at night. Although the Netherlands is for sure much saver than the US which is a very dangerous country. In my country after clubbing people cycle home alone. Many times they are drunk. But nothing ever happens when women go outside alone. If something happens that just means you are unlucky. I just ask locals when travelling what is possible and what not to visit by myself. Whenever travelling wherever you go you will see plenty of other travellers. Whether it is in Panama, Oman or Myanmar. Everywhere there are other travellers. Out of the 40+ countries I have been to about half of it I went to alone. Most places are not really adventurous anymore because you'll see other travellers even in the most remote places😂 it is crazy. Even when I went to Saudi Arabia at the beginning of this year there were some tourists and they literally only opened up their borders a year ago for tourists.
The fact they were in the jungle essentially but the camera had deleted photos? How did that photo get deleted in the middle of nowhere? Also the photos in the dark likely for use as a flashlight is so creepy. The whole case is absolutely mind boggling. I've seen many cases, but this is one haunts me.
ALso, the cell phone was charged after it died from what I underwstabnd. For whatever reason I think the lady that found the bookbags knows a HELL of a lot more than she is saying. I think her and her husband killed those girls. Sick. I have read a lot on it....Not just this vid of them.
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I know this is probably nothing, but why would you bring two EXTRA pretty bras on a hike? She was surely wearing a functional bra. They weren’t planning on hiking long. So why?
I don't think they were extra bras. Maybe they were the ones they were wearing on the hike. They were young women at the time and maybe still just wear pretty bras. I know I didn't own any 'ugly/functional' bras until at least 24. IDK but I thought the bras were weird to find in the bag as well. They also found one girls shorts folded and set aside and not with the bodies. So much evidence to prove someone else was with them, especially if the leading theory is that they were washed away from a broken bridge but all of the stuff in the bag was dry, including the electronics.
The girls were obviously attacked and murdered by people. Animals don't leave such clean cuts. Her foot was perfectly severed and the edges of the hip bone were sharp, which wouldn't make sense if it was animals. My bet is the local tribesmen killed them and possibly ate them. They didn't expect an investigation, but when it started they got worried they'd be found out, so they claimed to "find" the backpacks. In regards to the 911 calls, it's also possible the tribesmen chased them off the path and made a hunt out of it, as is common with cannibalistic tribes.
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What's the point in having an emergency radio if people aren't going to believe you when you call for help? Ridiculous. Poor guy.
They thought it was a hoax because he was known to have strong survival skills. But they still sent out a rescue team, it's not like they just left him out there to die alone.
I know right
Tyrell 😭😭 all of Australia needs answers. I’ve been following this story since he first disappeared. A lot of evidence points to his real parents or one of their family members. Someone knows something!
Only 3 days ago three replies and 1.2 k likes How
The amount of fake calls is disgustingly high, but they still check on each and every one.
Imagine being so badass that when you send out a distress signal, everyone thinks it’s a joke. May he rest in paradise
Icandrawz RIIIIGHT!! Exactly what I was thinking!! But also made me upset they did not take this call seriously 😳 should never take that risk with someone’s life but I also think part of them thinking “ Oh he’s just calling in to mess with us , play a little joke before he paddles up to victory! Silly ole Andrew “ .. was their way of disbelief and in very much denial of him NOT actually making it and him actually loose his life during this crazy adventure when he was so close. Very sad 😢
Its shock
If I was the one receiving the call, I would still send help immediately.
GalaxxE oh I’m sorry 😥
ItS ReSt In PeAcE IdiOt
Imagine how many people have probably seen any missing person but didn’t know they were missing
I know right... But we will never know if they are missing or even a murderer
That’s a truly chilling thought.
I think about that all the time
@DUDE oh shit
Oh shi-
As a teen, I got lost in a wooded area. Obviously, I found my way back to safety, but where I eventually found my way out of the forest was nowhere near where I thought I was. That was a frightening experience.
Yeah, that can be such a disorientating experience. I've done the same a few times myself.
If only Blue could speak😢
I’ve explained to my daughter that hiking requires lots of practice, preparation and tools. I was into hiking, and like you guys I had a few scares myself. Luckily, I was well equipped. Kids nowadays barely know how to ride bikes (at least in the US). So, it scares me a bit that she’s into hiking. But, gotta let her fly. Equipment is key however.
"my kayake is sinking, im going down i need rescue" ... nah he is just doing his nightly phone in its nothing..... WTF.
Right?? Jfc
Most likely didn't have any service on his phone just his camera
My thoughts exactly. Also he sounded drunk/under the influence or having some sort of medical issue causing his speech to be slow and slurred like one would have during a stroke or such. Odd
@@FullMetalAtheist I would think it was because of how bitterly cold it gets. You know how your face feels when it is freezing & you're trying to talk but can't get the words out properly. I imagine that but 10X worse, coupled with the freezing waves. Poor guy!
Andrew won't ever b found. He been shark food !! Hell maybe his family was trying to kill him !!
Damn. What an absolute tragedy. Over ten years of preparation, just to capsize and die less than 20 miles from your final destination. And to top it all off, he was such a badass that when he made the distress call, nobody took it seriously, so they didn't even bother to send a full-scale search party until it was too late. That's awful. My sincere condolences to his family and loved ones.
For real man that one made me so sad 😞 also made me angry that no one took it seriously I mean it clearly sounded like he was very cold distressed and in need of a RESCUE. Considering how close he was to his destination he could have been saved maybe if they tried to search right away :(
@@kaiynatfatima5976 Yeah, I couldn't agree more, my friend. The rescuers really botched this one. The man was literally world-renowned for being one of the most talented long-distance kayakers on the planet, so when he phoned in on the emergency line and specifically said "I need help. I really bit off more than I could chew this time," they absolutely should have known to take him seriously. Without a doubt, the poor fella should still be here sharing his awesome adventures & stories with us.
I’m so mad about that like they should ALWAYS take it seriously bc something like this is bound to happen. 😭
@@kaiynatfatima5976 his family thought he was joking like? Does he lie about these stuff all the time that his own family won't take it seriously? I mean, come on.. why wouldn't they take it seriously..
Yeah, it awful. Also seeing his comments in his video diary, I can't imagine how those last moments were. Being taken by surprise by a rogue wave when you're dead tired and your resolve has been weakened this much. So sad.
I wonder if his emergency locator beacon failed, or if he just didn't have the chance to use it, as it was in some awkward position inaccessible to him when he was drowning.
I really hope his family are okay. Him realizing "I have so many people waiting for me" is heartbreaking to hear.
I can’t believe not ONE person took the kayaker’s call for help seriously. It truly pisses me off.
I know!! Why on earth would they think it was a hoax??
He sounded like he had a stroke, speech was slurred. My mom had same speech before she went into a coma. He probably was disoriented and couldn't activate emergency equipment. Very sad😥
That pissed me off too, all emergency calls should be investigated then after the investigation it should be determined whether it's a hoax or not
@@De.D1 my mother also had a stroke. It’s the most devastating event of her life and my life.
@@spitfire3984 Sorry, to hear about your mom. I understand how you feel. 🙏This guy was definitely slurring and someone should have picked up on it. 😢
In the middle of the sea and they didn"t believe he was in danger - shameful. RIP Andrew.
I have zero sympathy for parents who partake in high risk activities (including their spouses who sign up w/high risk takers and bring children into the world). I guarantee he wouldn't have done it if he was the last person on the planet because there wouldn't be anyone to sing his praises for his dangerous feats and give him all sorts of pats on the back for being FIRST at this or FIRST at that and then everyone can tell their children to keep their chins up, at least they died, doing what they loved to do (for themselves). Selfish adults!
This is the most disturbing story to me. Absolutely unconscionable. Pure negligence.
@@isabellind1292 Of course he knew the risk and did this despite that, what's your point really. I understand not helping in the death zone in the 8000+ meter mountains (K2, Everest etc...) where it's very dangerous to save someone.
In this case, why on eath shouldn't you try to help? Is the cost of rescue that important to you? Do you lack empathy? Unless you expect us to stop sending ambulances to check on obese people, or people with lung cancer caused by smoking, you should be careful with the pointy finger. The lines will get very blurry afte a while when you start deciding what life deserves to be saved or not.
@@missJolie85 Don't misquote what I wrote so you can try and use it against me since you cannot cite anywhere in my comments that I said anything remotely related to his or anyone else's rescue just so you can lecture me on something you needn't!
You and your pointy finger. WTF is wrong w/you?
@@isabellind1292sure but is that what we’re talking about?
dude andrew was so close. that’s rly sucks
What really sucks is THAT close is when he realized he might have bitten off more than he can chew. He said it on his video they found. He just wanted to make it in one piece. How sad :(
He went to the other world
Wild Cats Life b
Did they ever find his body?
윤하수lorna some say the ghost of Andrew is wandering the sea still trying to guide people who get taken out into the sea
The mother clearly killed her son. "Timothy belongs to me." That's a variation of, "If I can't have you, no one can."
Yes, I believe she did too.😔
I feel like she decided she would kill the poor boy and go with him
Yea but, wheres the body?? I didnt hear any chemical dissolution thing
Raya Dakota that’s part of her cruel, selfish act. She hid the body so the father and his family would never be sure what happened to him
Raya Dakota probably buried somewhere remote. We just have to wait until someone comes across him.
Imagine never knowing if your child is missing, kidnapped or killed. I can’t comprehend that type of pain
*ITS BEEN SO LONG*
The mom sucks
Not knowing is the worse....
They got murdered by local tribes 100% everything alligns unless there are tigers or bears or some sort of predators lurking around that area
@@MrTHAUniverse facts they 100% murdered them because they saw two women alone in a forrest. Nobody could hear or help them if some wild men wanted to rape and kill them
These stories are so sad because I genuinely cannot imagine the feeling of not knowing what happened to one of your loved ones.
Ah yes, the ol' "my kayak is sinking please help me" prank, truly a classic.
Hilarious, never gets old.
@@Venus-xg8bm Elicits a knee-slap outta me every time.
Venus it really doesn’t.
Brayduhsaurus rex gets a hard thigh-slap for me
Straight outta the book of classic jokes
Damn the photo of one of the girls kissing their Dad goodbye, not realising it's for the last time, is so sad...
Yeah, so sad moment! Sometimes you say good bye to some loved one and you even don't know it's last good bye forever 😔
@@mahmutdemir5024 this is one of my biggest fears in life. Every time I say good night to my parents or my wife, I have this anxiety about not finding them alive in the morning. So I hug them a little tighter, just in case.
@@SalahEddineH live best of your life with them bruh.. Love, like, show them passion, compassion...
Bcoz one day all of us will hug some people last time even if we dont know it..
This is a scary reality :/
Was thinking the same
Broke the 777 thumbs up
I’m thinking the girls used their camera as a light maybe? As to not overuse their battery in their phones. That’s why the pictures are so random.
Yeah it's exactly what I think. I also think the branch with the red bags attached to it (looked very deliberate, with knots and all) was made to wave/signal for help, in case of passing aircrafts or something. (Some suggested the shredded paper was also used to spell out SOS or HELP or something).
I just can't imagine the fear and horror of the situation. You're sat there in the wilderness at night, maybe injured (some suggested one/both of the girls slipped down a ravine a night and got badly injured). You hear jungle noises and the only way to know what is around you is to shine the flash in that direction and hope the split second of light you get is enough.
Maybe they met with foul play, maybe they just fell to the wilderness. I'm not sure. What I'm sure about, is that their last days were probably terrifying.
@@SalahEddineH Either that, or the photos were taken by someone who wasn't them. Remember, the camera also had a picture of the girl's bloodied head. Maybe someone was taking a photo to remember or something? Who knows. In the end, it's tragic.
@@ijnyamato643 while definitely possible, it sounds less likely to me. The photos are definitely eerie and give off a weird vibe. But I would think a person taking trophy photos would be more deliberate with their pictures. Not take 90 pictures of dark jungle. A small digital camera with flash can definitely take a photo of a human body in total darkness, instead we get these shots where the camera doesn't seems aimed, but instead just used as a light source.
The photo of the bloodied head, I've read about it, but I've never seen it (maybe it was withheld by the police), the only photo I've seen shows hair. Maybe they look a bit redder in some places, but I see nothing that definitely looks like blood.
I think that photo was also taken for light, one or both of the girls needed to look at some injury, to see how bad it was. It's what I would do. I use my phone to take a closer look at my injuries even when not in total darkness.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems to me that a killer taking trophy shots would take more deliberate pictures, and also *TAKE THE CAMERA with them.* It's a small thing that can easily fit in a pocket. Why leave it? What could possibly have happened that made the person give up the backpack?
My personal theory is that a kid from the village found the backpack, maybe even next to the dead bodies, and took it home. Then got scolded by his/her parents for taking it, and that's how someone in the village was asked to turn it into the police, or they told the kid to throw the bag into the rice paddy where the woman said she found it.
But yeah, I can definitely be wrong. I'm just theorizing here.
Cheers!
@@ijnyamato643 mayb the other girl fell n got hurt n her frn took the pic too check the wounds
@@bozm8744 I'm personally thinking that as it got dark the girl got hurt using the camera as a flashlight and the friend took the picture of her head to see how bad it was, and as most all people know blood attracts animals, or maybe cannibals who knows, it's a sad and weird story none the less, the fact they found the foot still in the boot makes me think animals or people because it would have had to have broken her leg off, with the bleached bones I think big animals such as large cats, they will hunt and eat in the same place untill the meal is gone or another animal came and finished them off after the person or animal injured them and they couldn't fight it off.
Without more information noone will ever know, being that it was a trail in the middle of nowhere essentially who knows what other people could have been following them knowing the area better than them and attacked then when they got the chance, I think that's what happens and the "random" photos were pointed towards the noises they were hearing from people waiting to kill/hurt them, and it never said if the girl who's head was bleeding was still alive in the picture or if some morbid person killed her and took it, also the fact that some of the pictures were behind a rock makes me think they were hiding from someone/something.
Why on EARTH would you think Andrew was either calling in, or hoaxing your loved ones judging from that call? Absolutely insane. Poor bloke. New to your channel and loving it. Subbed! 👍🏻
“I need help”
“Nahhh he’s just playing guys”
What? 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
50 miles out at nite
He fell out
He die before any help comes .45 m
OSTAP BENDER CND ok
He was just too badass that they didnt believe he needed help.
@@jdmfluent9424 that's fair enough
Right!
The Hiking Pix were badass. The 1600 km trip solo would seem impossible.
Something even more scary is....... The fact that these people are the only ones who know what exactly happened before they went "missing"
Umm, excuse me. I don’t appreciate you using my pictures
lol
@@uptGuapo what
@@ManaSamaLover. they both got tha same profile picture
@@ManaSamaLover. its a joke
@@ManaSamaLover. They have the same pic, it was a joke
Kris and Lisanne's disappearance is one of the creepiest cases I've ever came across.
shit, i got goosebumps..
Honestly. I've listened to/watched so many podcasts/documentaries on it and it still boggles my mind. What's your theory?! Mine is foul play but.. It's so hard to say. It bugs me that some pictures were deleted from the camera roll.. But then why wouldn't whoever take the whole camera?! Poor ladies. My prayers to their families 🙏
Feliciano.
To me after reading all the data timing and phone records there is nothing creepy about their disappearance. They were in trouble, tried to get signal for their phones, time passed one of them died of injury another died of hunger. I don't know why people like to create imagination and controversies.
@@cy4330 Thanks for your opinion! That's VERY possible. There's nothing wrong with questioning something you don't understand. We just gotta harness the ability to be able to look at all sides and realize when we're wrong. That's all it is. I agree that sometimes people get carried away with their theories.. Especially without looking at all the evidence. Anyways, thanks again for your comment. I like being able to look at all aspects of situations and hearing others opinions that have done the same. Take it easy. 😊👊
For the second case I definitely feel like the tour guide the girls were supposed to meet up with should be examined more closely. There were already reviews of him being weird/pushy with female tourists in the past, and he even "jokingly" told the one tourist about cutting her legs off after she kept rejecting his advances. He knows the area by heart and would easily know areas that are off the path, and even more dangerous areas of the region, perhaps to stage evidence. For example leaving the backpack outside that village, when it wasn't there the day before, to make it seem like the girls had traveled further than they really did, in an effort to mislead police. And stage evidence in a way that made it look like maybe local tribes or something murdered the girls. And maybe the deleted photo from the camera was one that showed him in it. Plus it is very odd how only some remains were found. I know one common theory is that animals might be to blame for the remains being incomplete, but I think the guide used his machete he always carried to dismember and scatter their remains throughout the jungle. The severed foot in the shoe especially makes me think that.
Dang this theory sounds like the most accurate one I’ve seen so far my original theory was that the girls ran Into a tribe that then killed them and took those night photos and the picture of the girls head then place all the evidence so that it would remain a mystery forever
Now we’re getting somewhere……..I concur
Im from panama and actually i can agree that some people of the country side are sex maniacs. Also, something to be noted: this country is corrupted as hell. I can assure you that the government would hide lots of evidence just maintain the country’s name clean because it practically lives off of tourism.
I agree, you can't trust never people like that. You don't know their intentions, there should be someone from the Nederlands supervising that guy or sth
@@mgamingyt9558 The night photos randomly taken were probably taken so they could see the threat. I think they were taken and held hostage or chased for a while because of all the calls for help on their phones. I think it was over 70 times they tried to call for help. I can't figure out the missing photo though? The guide would be a very good suspect.
3:28"nobody really believed andrew could be in trouble " Whatt !?!? The dude is kayaking in the middle of the ocean .
Funny but so sad.
@Shalonda Faison Well he did pull a "The boy who cried wolf" but still sent people
@@Kibbuster how is that the boy who cried wolf? he didn’t lie?
He had done crazy shit like this before
He was very skilled at kayaking (to the point no one was too worried) and they thought it was a hoax (he was known to do that)
How can anyone’s phone last 10 days in the jungle ? I can’t get mine to last 1 and I’m constantly charging it.
Older phones maybe? Last longer? Or can the phone still ping from cell towers when dead? 🤔
Same. However I just got a phone from my daughter and it stays charged for several days if I dont use it. I can go to bed without charging it and it's still on 70 the next day. I'm loving it.
Facts 😆
Those phone were plugged up just like that camera
They were turning it off to save battery.
It's sad when you realize that only the dog knows everything that happened.
And you suddenly wish you could speak dog.
@@blerst7066 or the dog speak english
@@blerst7066 😂😂😂
maybe! but why isnt he in any of the earlier photos? this story gave me the chills especially when they showed the photos of the sky
@@blerst7066 dognese :D
kris and lisanne’s case has always been one of the most interesting i’ve ever heard. those poor girls, they suffered for so long knowing they were all each other had, and then they died together to God knows what. such a mysterious case, and I don’t believe there was no foul play at hand. whatever the case may be, rest in peace kris and lisanne.
I reckon they ventured too close to the tribe or maybe wild animals, with the body parts they found its very possible they got lost and inevitably got eaten. Though with the pictures they have I also reckon somebody may have kidnapped and tortured them, it doesn't make sense but when you look at everything it's possible
edit: after watching the rest of it, foul play or a third party person was definitely involved
i think it could go either way- accident or foul play. i know there are a lot of weird aspects to the case but sometimes weird things happen before/after someone dies on accident. its like that family that went hiking in california just to die of heat exhaustion, people thought it was weird but it really was just an accident. or that kendrick johnson case where pretty much EVERYONE is convinced he was murdered but it just turns out a lot of the events before/after were just unusual if you really look into it. the world is weird, and we cant account for every little thing that happens in it.
@@someidiot420 when it's weird, it's usually someone really clever who did it.
In the second case you mentioned, what's "weird" is, the dead one is black and the white guy's dad is FBI 😂 formula for magical things to happen.
un jaguar muertos las chicas.
One comment said they were suspicious of the tour guide
I don't care how much of a daredevil Andrew was. You got a distress call from a man saying where he is and that he's sinking..............attempting a feat that *no other human* accomplished. Why the hell would you think it's a joke?
This is exactly why so many people died in the titanic. There weren't enough life boats because the creators belived it was unsinkable and wouldn't need as many. People make huge understatements due to being blinded by the belief that the best can never fail. Even if someone is an expert they can still make mistakes. I guess it is just human nature.
i am surprised than the NZ authority didn't react straight away he was so close to the coast!!
I feel they kill him
Imagine crying for help and the last person you talk to and and expect to help you just treats you like that
I think Andrew was a bit selfish. May he rest in peace, but why would you attempt something so dangerous knowing you'd be leaving behind your wife and son. I wouldn't put myself in that danger. I guess that's the difference between him and I.
the first guy was their fault, they could’ve saved him. “A hoax, nobody thought he was in trouble.” WTF HOW
they still sent help tho. but yeah it's shitty to not believe there was an emergency when someone calls asking for help
@@oonarantanen8500 ye u should take every emergency call seriously cuz it's a part of your job
IKR what do they mean a hoax? I thought maybe that was just the family's way of dealing with it, a sort of denial thing, but how and why would someone fake a call for help?
@@CrappleFartini The amount of fake calls is probably insurmountable because humans are just dog shit but the dogshit humans also should’ve felt or even just heard the severity in his voice if they just tried a bit harder or took it a bit more serious he would still be with his family today so I agree
where do people get money and then get the time off work to do this? are most of these "adventurers" who have all the latest gear really trust fund kids or wealthy people?
I'm like dirt poor so I don't quite understand how this is possible (not the physical demands, the financial)
*I don't care if I look like an idiot but when someone calls and tells me they are in trouble then I WILL call the authorities because it's better to know later that you were pranked rather than knowing the person who called is now dead.*
Only idiots would say you were an idiot
Super true
Yep
You at an idiot cause you never been to a jungle you can have iPhone 20 and you don't get connection you think there's satellites in jungle with thick trees
Especially nia
Gary Box was my dad's cousin. I literally had no idea this video even existed until I saw it in my recommended just now..... I was only a year old during 9/11 so I never met him. The photo in the thumbnail was also on the front page of USA today at one point but its amazing that this video has 10 million views. I'm glad lots of people know about his story and how brave he was. I see Gary's family sometimes for holidays and gatherings and can confirm they are doing well.
“My ship is sinking, please I need help.”
Everyone else: damn that’s crazy- so anyway.
Literally though, poor man :( My heart goes out to his family and those that loved and cared about him
that made me sooo mad! poor guy
Understandable have a nice day
@@tatishortcake3196 clearly his family didn't give a f*** about him if they didn't believe it wasn't him
they said: haha you’re funny anyway.
but seriously how could you think he was joking.
What the dog saw was probably something he won’t unsee
True, if only it could tell what it saw..
I was literally thinking this
You could see it in his eyes
@Jay Morgan yes
? no.
the firefighter Gary Box is my uncle, and a dear friend of my father. My Dad would tell me stories of them both joking around near the BBQ. My older brother is a cop and I'm a former Marine while my father is a doctor constantly working in the Covid units. My family looks back on Gary's heroism and tries to carry on serving our communities and country with honor.
I'm so sorry. I hope you're family is doing well. I hope they find him soon, or may he rest in peace. Stay strong. You men can do this you're very strong people. Thank you for your service.
Can you tell us what happened please? It sound interesting but i didn’t understand the end..
I’m so sorry he was very brave to risk his life that day
may God bless you and your family. and may your uncle be resting in peace. you will meet up with him again one day. your family is full of heros.(you too!!).
@@porschabrewer2602I don't know if you watched it properly but he was a firefighter in 9/11 hun, unfortunately he won't be found. But he was a very brave man indeed.
Very well researched and fascinating video. Thank you for putting this together.
2 foreign females alone on a hike in the dense jungle of panama, I believe Kris and Lizan were being followed and sadly murdered.
Panama its my country. It was huge news, rumor has it that there are canibal etnic group that habits near that area that probably ate them.
@@mariapardo9137 Kris and Lizan possibly being murdered and eaten makes sense to me. I couldn't help but think that after the narrator brought up that they found a foot and a pelvis. No one knows who could be out in those jungles and it's terrifying.
@@mariapardo9137 If it's true that there are cannibals, then it's probably that. The cut off foot could back this up as well. With the pelvic bone.
But you know what, this couldn't have happened to them if they just followed the sign not to go any further. There is a sign, fucking follow it. They may not be stupid, but they were stubborn. I feel bad for them, I really do, but shit man. This is why I always put emphasis to follow the rules, specially for things you don't have clear knowledge in, like jungles.
@@faultline3936 thats why the sign is there. Panama's rain forest is no joke, it all looks the same and when panic sets in you are doomed. I've been to the treck that they went, always with a guide. They are very stern in saying stay in the maked path. Every single person that lives there warn you to stay in the path
Hence why the dog returned. They were sadly very very stubborn.
Two very naive girls that had no business in such a place alone. They got in way over their heads
When kids go missing it’s heartbreaking.
kendra williams I agree, every case must be difficult and sad for their families, but man... cases involving children and elder people brake my heart 😪🙏
Adults are just growing kids.. so yeah... everyone has someone that cares about them
That's why I skipped that story.
And its some one they know who causes the tragedy
That's why I'm les
that first one is so sad. a man so close to fulfilling his dream, distraught and ready to go home.
He was a selfish fool. Now his son gets to grow up without a father.
@@alecb8509 bruh your rude for saying that
@@alecb8509 He's a man with a strong dream. Have you ever had any dreams in you life?
@@RiderGeats His dream was evidently VERY dangerous. Such dreams should be put on hold to do what is in the best interest of your children.
@@alecb8509 Risking makes history, don't matter if it's dangerous or not there are many people out there risking their lives for peace. Peace is an example of people's hopes and dreams. He's never selfish because he's not doing it for fun, rather he's doing it staying true to his path. Never insult a man with a dream, if he ever accomplished that dream you would most likely give him some honor or praise.
Every time I hear about Lisanne & Kris' story, I'm just left with so many unanswered questions. The photo's they took are so strange to me- my immediate thought is that they were trying to use the camera's flash to get an idea of their surroundings. But when it comes to the ripped up paper & mirror on the rock, could it be possible they were trying to signal for help? By taking flash photos in the dark, maybe they were hoping someone near by [or even farther away/helicopters] would see the flashes. Maybe they used the mirror to reflect those flashes skyward somehow...? Based off the nighttime photo's it's pretty clear that they're all taken within the same little area.
It's been mentioned in other sources that Lisanne wasn't feeling well prior to the hike & also had a minor injury to her leg from a possible volleyball incident. If they'd been hiking around for hours all day I wouldn't doubt her leg would have been at least a little bit sore or tender. The trail seems to start out relatively easy to traverse but after a certain point it becomes noticeably more rigid and rough. I wonder if it's possible that Lisanne or even both the girls took a tumble somewhere further down the trail/off the trail and got injured to the point that one of them couldn't move easily.
If I were hiking in the mountains somewhere with a friend and I got hurt so badly, it would be hard for me to let my friend go off without me in search of help. Especially if it were getting dark/was already dark and stormy. I'd be scared out of my mind at the thought of sitting alone in a forest and beg my friend to stay with me. Maybe that's when they tried to contact emergency services?
In situations where you find yourself lost, it's often said that you should "stay where you are" so that rescue can come find you, and to not continue wandering incase you become more lost. I like to believe that's why all of those photo's are of the same area [the trees and branches and view of the sky]. All of those photos were taken like 7 days after they had initially gone missing, I believe. That's 7 days of being in a rugged area covered in forest and mountains with no cell service. 7 days of being lost without proper clothing, food, and shelter from the elements. And one or both of you are too injured to find help. April 3rd Lisanne's phone dies and the rest of the call attempts are made from Kris' phone.
Based off the photo of the back of Kris' head, I think maybe something happened to her. Maybe she lost consciousness or was succumbing to the elements at that point. Lisanne was probably the one trying to unlock her friends phone, and couldn't unlock it because Kris wasn't in any condition to communicate her password. Thus the multiple failed attempts to gain access. As for the questions surrounding the neatly folded shorts; it could be possible that someone completely unrelated found them down the river and folded them in plain sight so whoever lost them may find them again. [I've seen plenty of instances where lost gloves, scarves, jackets of the sort get hung on tree branches or placed somewhere incase the owner retraces their steps and finds them]. I could write down a lot more, but this is all just my own personal opinion formulated off of different sources. RIP Kris and Lisanne.
TL;DR - As mysterious as this case seems, and the only other companion of the girls was the homestays dog [who unfortunately cant share its POV of the story], I think the entire thing was a case of misfortune after misfortune. One or both of the girls slid or fell off the path and got so badly injured that they couldn't move easily to find help. They stayed where they were in hopes someone would come along and find them, only for days and days to pass while exposed to the elements & no cell service, ultimately sealing their fate.
You're forgetting the pants. One of the girl's pants were found dry and neatly folded and placed on a rock. That practically solves the entire mystery. They were obviously captured and r&ped, most likely by a tribesman.
That exactly what I believe happened! That's so sad
This is absolutely the most logical of conclusion without actually being there. Most people have these wild ideas of stalkers and wild men who eat humans ... Illogical thinking by people who have wild imagination. Your explanation mirrors my own.
Rip to these two young ladies. What a sad story 💔
"Help me, I need rescue!"
"Haha good one, see you in a few days!"
There are no words.
They didnt ignore his call , they sent out rescue units...
Yeah, that pissed me off a little bit
The read more won’t work ☹️
@Amelia Kang Nobody needs to take it seriously if they are not on the search team. Its his fault, because he kept pranking them in the past.
Are you serious ? A man calls for help on an emergency radio ? And they don’t believe him ?
God, it was so sad and heartbreaking 😢💔
Exactly, I was like what are you effing serious?!?!
They still sent a search party
He had a wife and a young son his dumb self shouldn't have been out there doing that stupid crap for no reason
I haven't watched the video but from I understand this guy probably made some fake calls before - for some laughs. That's why no one took him seriously cus they thought he was fooling around.
Or maybe they were angry at him for doing this type of shit all the time.
I just don't understand why he didn't call the police or some emergency rescue team ( I would have saved their number if I went somewhere isolated and dangerous) cus it's their job to find and rescue the person as fast as possible
those nighttime photos of the two girls are extremely creepy... I have a weird feeling... those photos were not taken by either of them....
I feel like it could be someone trying to use the flash to see in the dark or something. Or maybe if the tribe theory is real, they found the camera and were trying to see how the camera works?
But yeah, those photos really gave me chills. Those poor girls. 😔
have you seen the movie wrong turn.well that was based on a true story along time ago so I think it might of been one of those
Well fuckin duh
Not kidding here but couldn't a monkey taken those?
@@lainekrueger2183 Not entirely impossible, but the camera was inside the backpack found at the creek. I don't think a monkey would snap a few photos and then place it neatly inside a bag and just leave it there.
These missing person's cases are all so very sad. 💔 The "not knowing" has to be absolute torture. Sending love and hugs to all of the families of those missing, and of course, the missing as well. 💗💕💗
You know something, i almost skipped through the two girls missing because i have heard the story so many times but Mrs Lutch, you have included so much more detail i have not heard before that i had to keep listening
Thanks for the addition content
😎👍
I was ready to do the same and Lutch definitely impressed me by having additional information I hadn't seen before. Top notch content.
Sameee
@@rjchavers9267 Yeah. Had not seen many of those photos of the search before.
Same . This is a really informative video and really interesting additions .
@TheDodicat You ought to watch it though.
You will find more interesting information she took her time to research rather than just more theories.
3 things you shouldn't mess with. Caves, deep sea and high mountains
And deep jungles and or rain forests
deserts
And catacombs !
@@murdermysterymissing8044 They don’t call it “Death by Chocolate Cake” for nothin
@@CaitFalconer It was one in the morning. No need to be rude about it. Nothin is kind of missing a letter don't you think?
The photographs the two Dutch girls took at night are actually terrifying - they used the flash because they knew someone/something had alerted them and they were trying to find where it was hiding in the darkness. Very scary that you can't even go anywhere in pairs.
Time stamp?
@@eris_8363 the night time photos start at 14:57.
@@eris_8363 They're all over the Internet.
Unfortunately, two women can't go in pairs.
@@md-wg4bz Any people would be killed if they ran into a native tribe or some hardcore drug dealers.
Shuddering to think about what poor Will Tyrell may have suffered. Snatched right out of the front yard. What a bizarre and awful thing to have happen. Such an innocent and sweet child.
i remember when it happened. I mean i really hope his living his life unknown about who he is but i don't think so. we drove past the town when going to QL. and it just felt like gray if that makes sense
That's why I don't like to hike...never hike without a guide...
what if the guide ends up murdering you? gg ;) .... I don't trust nobody these days anymore. everybody looks suspicious to me. so sad
@@lucielu1230 i played too much damn among us, you dunno how much i agree with you rn
@@lucielu1230 atleast they would've known who the perpetrator was.
N. Taheri that’s why you DON’T go hiking alone without a group of friends, even if you’re 2. That’s not gonna save u from people trying to murder you.
Or a small army of friends armed to the teeth
Those people who didn’t take his call of help seriously should all lose their jobs. Disgusting people.
They DID take his call seriously. The "oh it was a hoax call" is a complete fabrication just to make a story out of it. It was all over the news here in NZ.
Hey Eren...
How's your plan going?
Motivation Exceeds Me Well that’s a stupid addition
@@erenthebombjaeger **cries in manga reader**
@@JamieLeeBornhorn shut up kid
how could you not take someone's distress call seriously? people never cease to amaze me.
Like what's the point of having option of making distress call when it's always seen a joke or hoax.
*has distress call option*
*someone makes distress call*
*surprised pikachu face*
Bystander effect.
you dont cease to amaze me, either
@@markelabanks4808 who were the bystanders?
Knowing that every hour a person missing in this world is chilling to my spine. I think I will just stay in my home.
Don't worry most are just out for milk.
Welcome back to “youtube is recommending me things to watch at 3am”
3am here too
2:19 AM, close one! :D
03:02
@@Gereon_ :(
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
how tf they aint think he was in trouble 🤦🏾♀️
What?
Mr Jones and me did you not watch the video?
Thats what I thought too, like how can you think someone calling for help is a joke 😡
Tou Moua literally could’ve saved his life if they took it serious
Octavia Marshay righttttt
The guy kayaking should’ve had some sort of boat with him that could give him help if needed
Well he called help,but they thought it was a joke
That’s why it’s called a solo trip...
Self inflating liferaft.
@@jowaller4051 no he’s talking about having like another kyak connected to the kayak he was on or those inflatable rescue boats
But that then makes it too safe and no challenge
this video was just insanely awesome! Your voice in this video sends chills down my spin along with the editing and music makes this video so creepy. Great vid!
The voice is TTS (Text to speech)
me: trying to find music just to relax at 2am
youtube recommendations: *let me show you some bedtime stories*
Right!! And then bladder says, “we gots to pee” and anxiety says, “hell naw we ain’t roamin the dark!”
@@wearethewades3077 this is the worstttttt omg
@@ilana8985 AHAHAHA
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Relatable lol
The two girls that went missing, doesn’t seem like much a mystery. Sounds like somebody abducted them, killed them, and disposed of the body parts weeks later
Every man worst nightmare no sound of his little girl 😑😔🤧💯💙🤟💜God bless um
They would more than likely have been eaten
I think they stumbled upon a native tribe and were killed, and maybe even eaten.
@Sun Bean ☀️ same thoughts.
@Sun Bean ☀️ I thought maybe they were taking night photos because they heard something out in the dark and was trying to catch a photo of it.
If you think about it.... the planet earth is a scary place.
The world was unfair and brings a mysterious future among us. You got to pay for freedom to hide yourself in protection, watched over and being watched. Those who weren't watched, can always have an advantage within their lives.
And it is about to get a lot more scarier!!
Always has been.
And were just a drop in a black void of infinity
space is much....much scarier.
Realm. but yes the earth is evil place. goverment chech out the that word on latin:)
Wait!?!?!? Did she just say "The fuh-jords" LMAOOOOO 😂😂😂
"This is an emergency, im going down"
*I LIKE YOUR FUNNY WORDS MAGIC MAN*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right!shame
What’s scary is the only one who might know what really happened to Kris and Lizzanne is the host families dog that returned to them without the girls.
if only dogs could talk .
.....and the person(s) who murder them and God.
@@motherofthreeb6337 If only God knows what happened, then why are you assuming it was a murder? Just kidding lol
So you believe a dog is a person?
@@bilcarter
Oops! Just realized I said “the only person” what I meant to say is “the only one”
i hate when people don’t take an emergency radio serious andrew he really could’ve made it
if someone who usually doesn't need help asks for help ... then it's something serious, and you should probably help
They responded, and started searching immediately. It is simply that things can happen really quickly when the ocean is a factor.
It is also not about the suggestion that they did not believe him when he said he was in trouble. They just did not think they could get to him in time to save him, because the Southern Ocean is a really cold body of water even in summer, and it will kill people quickly when the body deteriorates.
Which is a sign that Andrew was not fully prepared for the attempt like he thought he was, because the NZ side of the Southern Ocean might as well be Antarctica for how cold it gets.
Especially when Milford Sound is the southern most settlement, and it is described in summer like anywhere from a chiller with a breeze, to a freezer in a gale. He basically needed the polar gear that Antarctic researchers use to get here safely. Which we all know he did not have. That is not his fault; he just did not conceive that the cold was his biggest challenge.
The fact that they didn’t go rescue this man blows me 🤯
@barebearburiesbarrysberries after only sending a small one first because they though it was a joke...
@@zodiac1515 they dont take these things seriously unitl people wind up dead ...
They did lmao watch again, they only assumed that it was a joke
They did. It was the family and friends that pressumed it was a joke not the rescue teams.
Those two girls must have gone through a lot before they died😢
See that's where my head goes too. They always talk about them being gone. But what about the horrific stuff that must of happened to them before the head and bones were scattered. Sickening.
@@bittersweet728 I don't know about murder. they were still alive for at least 6 days after. why would anyone keep them alive and let them use their phones to send out emergency calls?
@@jimskeuh ok so I know how this will sound. But I watched a video on a physic and she was getting that they were fed water and fish. Apparently it cleanses the system? If they sold organs then ate the rest since they don't waste. Again I know exactly how I sound. That's just what I watched. And even if I'm wrong I'm almost positive they suffered whether they were alive for days or alive until they weren't.
@@jimskeuh Having fun hunting them? Who knows what these tribe people were thinking.
And obviously you know, that there isnt going any calls out of that jungle.
Just a thought tho
@@bittersweet728 interesting. can you link me the video of that physic ?
This is why I stay in my room and never leave...
Thinking somebody wouldn’t break into your house
*Yup, you're doing good!* 👍🏼
Your weird
U not even safe there
@@bohemiangod3658 why did u have to tell me dat😭🤦🏾♀️
The fact the dog returned but not them makes me question the family
Uh why? The dog can go back home when he wants, I don't see why he should have any loyalty to people he barely knew.
Solved... It was the dog
@@kawaibakanekowe're used to lassie in the USA. The rescue dog. That dog didn't rescue them. Suspicious
it's always creepy when a dead person makes a statement that actually stands the test of time, like saying "You will never find him" or "You will never know what happened" and then years and decades later it remains true
Yeah
Yeah
yeah
Yeah
Yeah
My heart breaks for the Box family, but that image of him running thru the tunnel. That’s a great last image. Him as a hero.
He went out with his boots on.
These stories and photos of 9/11 responders still amaze all of us. True hero
For me as a firefighter, that hit hard.
Rest in peace brother, for you will never be forgotten
Amen.
@@derziegenmann8i734 🙏
@@derziegenmann8i734 ♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏
I think Timothy's mom took him out and showed him a good time, showered him with gifts, and killed him. She had that "if I can't have him nobody can," mentality.
Bingo!
I don’t think she would do that she really loved her son I think she was just planning this for a long time and didn’t want to leave her child alone with her husband yet she still wanted to die so she might’ve given Timothy up to another family
@@donnaporter5406 when a child is murdered it is almost always the mother
@@dw5116 then dont you think they wouldve found the body?
@@donnaporter5406 no, it's ridiculously easy to hide a body. It's not the movies where they are found in a few days or that night. There are so many factors that go into finding a body I wouldn't be surprised if they don't find bones for a 100 years
Regarding the disappearance of the two girls in Costa Rica: although you cannot change the fact that they are both confirmed dead, you can still track the whereabouts of the recovered phones through GPS. All smartphones have a GPS in them; the phones were still active after they were found, hence, you can track exactly where the phone was every minute of the day. (Google maps does this too: it will show you every place you have been since turning on the phone. I've used it for addresses I can't remember; cops use it to track a criminals activities) It won't bring them back, but it may reveal a bit more information about how the backpack ended up miles away from where their remains were found.
My girl & kids won’t let me go to the bathroom let alone across an ocean
Congrats 👏
Same bro.
So true lol
Right I know how u feel lol
🤣🤣 you’re loved sir
"I'm sinking!"
"Nah he fine!"
Like wtf
"Hey girl, I'm in the water"
"Hey girl, I have drifted out to sea"
"Girl where are you I can't swim"
"Girl I fucking drowned"
@@Luliho HAHAHAHSHS
Literally mad at that
No punishment could EVER be severe enough for those who abduct and abuse children.
people who abduct and abuse other people in general. there is no punishment severe enough.
Death. Slow painful death that perdures multiple days
Huni, skipping the details of my own experience think you will find a lot of people somehow escape punishment or even being exempt from question. In the UK the " authorities " can not be trusted so how can anyone
I bully people so I should get a death pentaly fkin cluck?
@@thefinalsay8330 I believe they meant people who kidnap any person but especially children and especially when they harm them in any degree. Not just bullying us.
You sound like a newscaster. Your voice is so clear and concise, like you put a lot of effort into making your video sound educational and informative. I respect the dedication.
This is TTS (Text to speech)
Except for so many mispronounced words…
Note to self: Never do anything related to water besides drinking.
Facts water scares the shit outta me
@@Tactical666 bruh me too i can’t get on a boat like my guy a 4 ft pool is the only time i got swimming
@@Iamzee1_ thats fucked up
@Jjturner10 🤣🤣😂guess not
M
These girls were intelligent and fit they were attacked by the worst out planet has to offer...humans.
True 💯
I agree, they found a foot and hip bone, they were killed by odd forrest people
@@detailermike Forrest? Forrest Gump? You probably meant "forest people", but since that is a jungle, it would be "jungle people".
@@walterbrunswick ya lol typo
*men*
The girls stories is extremely scary, can’t even begging to imagine the fright they must’ve endured.
William Tyrell is still a big case and often talked about in Australia. Many theories have come about and everybody has their own opinions on it. Sad that a little boy has lost his future, and that they have never found a body, but hopefully on day the case will be solved.. for the sake of his parents and sister at the very least.
The foster mother has been charged
@@Luclys yes I know. I suspected her all along. I’m glad they have finally taken steps to solve it.
@@teefarox92his foster mother’s charges are irrelevant to William’s case.
Tho his parents are still druggies and can’t keep their other children out of the foster care system they hate so much. Go figure.
I wondered if maybe his birth parents picked him up, but now hearing that the foster parent has been charged, that's really sad. 😢
I clicked on this video not expecting these stories to actually be this chilling. I regret it and am legitimately scared now.
I am too what did u do then to chill out tell me
@@surtisa1210 smoke weed lol
@@GBurdenG nice
I’m sad now
@@Naomihere Hmm, if you didn't find these stories saddening you must be very desensitized at this point lol
The dog is the only one who knows what happened
He set them up
They most likely met a group of villagers who were friendly at first, then turned violent.
@@et9120 i think they are not alone in the mountain
@@et9120 I totally agree. I for some reason, get the feeling that Cannibalism is involved after seeing the remaining body parts with little or no flesh attached.
@@MinjaeLee-c9z I feel like they met up with this group that seemed friendly but then turned violent with them. Maybe they were cannibals
This video is creepier than horror movies these days. Thank you.
True 👍 100%
Its only scarier because its true
Modern horror is pretty much extreme slapstick comedy lol
Because truth is much more horrific than any movie 🎬 can possibly be. True evil lurks behind a normal facade.
Fire fighters and all people at 9/11 were murdered by the American government who answer to Satan, 9/11 and the pentagon were printed on 20 dollar bills before the event happened, you have to fold the notes in a triangular fashion to see the building burning. The Strangest thing is this, if you look at video footage of the buildings burning its identical as if they printed the notes directly somehow from the video footage. i can understand a so called terrorist plan to destroy buildings but how is it possible to get an exact image of what it would look like before the event happened?????? is time travel possible?? The reason why we know Satan is involved is because the fold on the notes the triangle has to be facing down to see it, which is the sign of Baphomet and his evil sinister plans to murder innocent people. The weirdest thing is still to unfold. See the new 10, 50, 100 dollar bills, it depicts the future, New York is to be Nuked, a massive tidal wave is seen and a nuclear sky in the background a wave going over a 7 story building and New York destroyed and many dead, it also shows us the Hoover dam being destroyed by a man made earth quake, and this has not happened as yet, its on our future it could take place anytime for now and its 6 June 2022 as i type this message, again the triangle facing down telling us that Satan is involved in this sinister plan. Satan wants your soul and will get it if you are not paying attention. See kelsey Dawson on youtube for more info on how to save yourself before the end times! I pray and hope that each person reading this will choose to be saved by God the most high! this is not a joke check the notes out for yourself 9/11 and pentagon were printed on US currency in 1996 5 years before those events took place and it happened! maybe if enough of us the people looked into this maybe we could prevent this from ever happening??? but i doubt it! from someone who knows!
Excellent video !! Very sad but well put together !!
I'm SO confused by people who go to a foreign country they have never been to before and "see what happens". "We might stay a week, 3 months who knows? Might teach a little"... like what?
lol I did that when I was in a long distance relationship (Now married and living together) I flew to Korea only knowing him and not knowing the language so I really put my life in his hands.
I did that when I went to Korea to teach English. Wound up staying for almost 8 years.
V C is Korea fun?
My friend's been teaching in Korea for three years and will probably stay for another two. She also taught in Istanbul. She's loving it. It's fine if your careful.
katie lee As a Korean(living in korea lol) I can at least confirm Korea is one of the safest and developed places, so you would have been fine :))
Crazy how the dog probably knows what happend to those girls
**hmmmmmm** Interesting!!
@sam569 only very few will understand this comment. Lol
@sam569 Without seeing your reply, I asked myself is there any technology that can scan and tell what animals have seen animals.
Weird how the dog was in none of the photos.
He wasn't with them as they never went on the trail. He saw nothing.
Andrew: *Literally calls for help*
Everyone: haha kayak man go splsh
Cold blooded
" The sea was angry that day my friends "
That’s not funny
I agree your cold to be so uncaring.
@@charlesradford7495 " You're " ... not ' Your ' Before all you people knock Kayak Andrew Video reply's, remember this man had a wife and child.. who are devastated by the loss of him. He should have attempted this long before he decide to marry and have children.. He was not a hero of any kind but a selfish and self-centered attention hound.
Excellent video, well made and narrated, thanks for posting.
It wouldn't make any sense for the woman to give her kid away if she was scared of losing custody of him. And then to kill herself guaranteeing she won't see him again? Chances are she killed him. Horrible.
I agree. Sounds like a classic psychotic break. She killed the boy so she could keep him or whatever she rationalized it as, then killed herself out of guilt (or to be with him).
Sigh I might sound insensitive and cold. Dealing with people of depression is tough. The feeling is like carry a volatile liquid when accidentally touches the forbidden area, it will boom 💥 casualty of themselves and those around them. A gestures or a word can trigger them to kill themselves and think radically. Sigh
@@venusyap5953 wtf are you talking about?
and she took him to amusement parks and bought him toys and stuff...clearly trying to make his last few days happy.
Horrible monster of a woman.
What a psycho
Those poor laddies definitely met some people they shouldn’t have run into. Judging by the missing body parts...
Yeah they were in a tribes territory so probably cannibalized
Animals reduce a corpse to scattered bones within days and the jungle's heat and humidity makes it happen even faster.
It's not strange that their bones were found that way, given the area in which they died.
@@kingayy9267 who (forensically) deleted the photo off their camera then?
@@Schimml0rd yeah and who captures a picture of the girl’s hair out of nowhere?
@@sarataha5095 they said she was bleeding there. She probably told here friend that the nack of her head hurt, and they took a flashlight photo to take a look at it. If they just used the flashlight without taking a photo it would drain battery, so they just took 1 photo. Of course this is just my guess and cant be confirmed
In 2005, a girl from Europe decided to travel Syria all by herself. A few days, she was reported missing from the hotel she was staying at. Lesson to girls, NEVER travel to a country you aren't familiar with or don't have any relatives. Those 2 girls surely were killed.
Be careful, they might take this in a sexist way and attack you for it. I wish women would open their eyes more and actually realize how fucked up humans (especially men) and the world can be.
I am a woman. You are 100% right.
I am all for woman’s rights but sadly that is the truth. You are right. I’m open minded so I see your point of view.
I understand what you mean. Even a couple going to explore a country they don’t know can get murdered. It’s scary to think about.
Reminded me of Magdalene Zuk. She traveled to Egypt from Poland alone and some unknown things happened (there is also video footage) she ended up jumping/being thrown to her death out of a hospital where she should’ve been safe. It’s a mystery what really happened. She was healthy and mentally stable before leaving home but once she was there she acted strange. Very sad. Both cases.
I’ve got 2 theories for the girls
1) they did indeed get lost. One sustained an injury. They used their phones and camera as flashlights and tried to conserve battery while calling for help. One girl died, the other tried to get into her phone (her phone already being dead) and that explains the failed attempts. Deleted photo possibly the result of a glitch or some other technological explanation. The backpack put together by natives who stumbled on their remains and left it for the villagers. No foul play.
It should be noted it’s not true that the Jean shorts were found zipped and neatly folded.
2) Foul play but not by locals. Someone with technological experience and familiarity with the area took an opportune moment to stalk and attack the girls, possibly after they got lost or injured some other way. The girls were kidnapped and lord only knows what the perpetrator did to them. He kept them somewhere away from the elements, with trash nearby. He deleted one photo and maybe even took the others at night to confuse any investigators. He removed their clothing, put their belongings in a backpack as some kind of messed up calling card. And he got away with it.
The reality sometimes is so far with what we expecting..
I always think about that when I'm about to do a dangerous trip. Some weeks ago I climbed a hill and met some people there that helped me get to the top, and it was awesome, but really dangerous. Risks of falling were high and I even though about going down in some parts. It was at the same time scary and amazing so since that day I've been thinking about inviting some friends to go there but i always get that horrible feeling that it's so easy to fall from there but yet the reward is so unique so I'm still thinking about it.
The two women were probably murdered
daugther: "I just graduate i want a trip"
mum:' where to in the world?'
daughter: "Pánama's jungle"
mum: "sure"
@@alexisgeovann cannibals ate em🤔
@Brendan 5629 999 you mean i presume you're talking about something satanic?
Yes its 999 not 666
And lucifer come from "Luciferin" not the devil luciferin is what gives fireflies their glow..
You learn something everyday! 😊
Number two is definently a murder case that's been covered up.
Good theory but i think it's that tribe near the trail they took that was off of it and they found them and hurt them ams they ran off and then large animals killed them and the tribe people came and spreaded their bones as a warning to others
@@princeravnos6705 that would still be a cover up since it's covered up by the tribe.
@@usagifang yea i guess i am not a detective i am only 13
Agree, I’ve always thought they were killed. I think whoever murdered them were using their phone to take the night time photos, to make it seem like they were still alive. There are so many things that point to foul play in this case, it’s too bad no justice will ever be served.
@@princeravnos6705 the problem with the tribe theory is that those trails are apparently for tourists. The evidence presented in the video makes it seem like the people they came in contact(in any), had knowledge of how technology works(phone, cameras). What probably happened is that they ran into some dangerous people(locals) and the rest is history. You just dont walk into a rural parts of a 3rd world country and just expect everything is going to be fine. To think they went hiking in an unknown area, without a guide is idiotic at minimum. I also partially blame the host family for apparently not portraying the dangers of doing this alone.
The woman who committed suicide killed her son. Making statements like "He's mine" and "he will be with me" after taking him on a vacation for a kid, buying toys was her way of making him happy before killing him. It probably alleviated some of her guilt as well. Very sad.
I thought that maybe she selled him for drugs because they found out she died on too much of "medical" stuffs idk but is it just me or did anyone else almost cried of hearing those stories
Also the whole he will be taken care of and you will never find him also could mean that he is dead and buried and is now in heaven being taken care of by God or the term taken care of like as in killed
But Have You Ever Seen The Video Of The Crying Kid Singing "Somebody That I Used To Know"?
@@KandiKidd1738 that video scarred me. That is that sick fuk podesta.
@@mariannepeart8570 what vids?
This is a haunting, but well researched and produced video.
The girls got the murderer face...thats why he deleted it.
O.O that makes sense
it could be a female? not just a male.. or it could’ve been multiple people. so that if one of them was attacked the other couldn’t run.
Then if that's the case the tribe didn't do it, unless they have the knowledge
@@ducklingchief8289 exactly. some remote jungle tribe would have no idea how to open up fotos on a camera and go thru them to delete what they wanted to. some pervert couldve been following them for gosh knows how long. they girls couldve even got severly deydrated, walking for hours in the sun and heat, and died due to dehydration. maybe thats why one pair of shorts were neatly folded - one of the girls couldve taken them off to try to cool her body temperature down, and died from the heat and dehydration. maybe there is no sinister reason for a photo to be deleted. its a mystery that is most likely never to be solved.
I think it’s possible local authorities were involved in a cover up (deleting the photos) as to not lose tourists and get a horrible rap (IMO)
Hell no..you wont see me walking on a jungle alone.
White folks do that most of the time.
Not without a gun or something
@@aliwadani5970 I am not white and have done it plenty of times. I am Dutch. We travel all over the world. This trip to Panama the girls did plenty of Dutch people have done. I went to Panama by myself as well. Whenever you travel just like when you stay in your own country you just have to be careful. I wouldn't go into the jungle alone or only go to places where it is save enough. The same goes for when I am home in my own country. You don't visit certain areas at night. Although the Netherlands is for sure much saver than the US which is a very dangerous country. In my country after clubbing people cycle home alone. Many times they are drunk. But nothing ever happens when women go outside alone. If something happens that just means you are unlucky. I just ask locals when travelling what is possible and what not to visit by myself. Whenever travelling wherever you go you will see plenty of other travellers. Whether it is in Panama, Oman or Myanmar. Everywhere there are other travellers. Out of the 40+ countries I have been to about half of it I went to alone. Most places are not really adventurous anymore because you'll see other travellers even in the most remote places😂 it is crazy. Even when I went to Saudi Arabia at the beginning of this year there were some tourists and they literally only opened up their borders a year ago for tourists.
@Conor Brosnan nice English lol
Or at all...I'm good
The fact they were in the jungle essentially but the camera had deleted photos? How did that photo get deleted in the middle of nowhere? Also the photos in the dark likely for use as a flashlight is so creepy. The whole case is absolutely mind boggling. I've seen many cases, but this is one haunts me.
The photos taken at night might have been of them trying to escape something...
ALso, the cell phone was charged after it died from what I underwstabnd. For whatever reason I think the lady that found the bookbags knows a HELL of a lot more than she is saying. I think her and her husband killed those girls. Sick. I have read a lot on it....Not just this vid of them.
yah idk that one gives me the chills-
Same. This story burrowed under my skin and has never left me:".
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This is the most detailed account of the Dutch women in Panama that I’ve ever seen. Well done
The disappearing of the two girls still freaks me out.
They didn't disappear. Their chopped up flesh and foot were found. So they were eaten up apparently
@@bookofharvest5965 do you have a link to the story ?
@@bookofharvest5965 Yeah any links?
Me too... maybe the tribes ate them?
@@bookofharvest5965 the thought of investigators finding one's pelvis in the woods makes me shiver-
I know this is probably nothing, but why would you bring two EXTRA pretty bras on a hike? She was surely wearing a functional bra. They weren’t planning on hiking long. So why?
Are you trying to propose the idea of them going to visit someone?
Maybe in case something happened to the ones they had on? Idk
@@1sjmama You lowkey might have a point.
One of the girls' shorts was also found neatly folded somewhere. I'm assuming there was someone involved in their disappearance..
I don't think they were extra bras. Maybe they were the ones they were wearing on the hike. They were young women at the time and maybe still just wear pretty bras. I know I didn't own any 'ugly/functional' bras until at least 24. IDK but I thought the bras were weird to find in the bag as well. They also found one girls shorts folded and set aside and not with the bodies. So much evidence to prove someone else was with them, especially if the leading theory is that they were washed away from a broken bridge but all of the stuff in the bag was dry, including the electronics.
The girls were obviously attacked and murdered by people. Animals don't leave such clean cuts. Her foot was perfectly severed and the edges of the hip bone were sharp, which wouldn't make sense if it was animals. My bet is the local tribesmen killed them and possibly ate them. They didn't expect an investigation, but when it started they got worried they'd be found out, so they claimed to "find" the backpacks. In regards to the 911 calls, it's also possible the tribesmen chased them off the path and made a hunt out of it, as is common with cannibalistic tribes.
woah ur smart.
mia lol ikr I could never
That make sense holy shi-
Juliana Dumalag ikrrrr
@@flatops3973 what about the deleted photo?
This is the BEST telling of Kris and lissanne’s story. I learned so much new info after I thought I’d read and watched it all.