Can I just take a moment to say how much I appreciate your music choices throughout this extensive review. You could have just quietly looped the same tracks over and over for 40 minutes. But the music changes and matches the various types and mon as you review them. Great work. Also, if people disagree, that's GREAT. It's more interaction in your comments section to be had. So long as they don't rage too hard at you.
I mean, Para, you gotta realize that "basing an entire deck on a specific thing" is how meta decks operate. What's good in casual will not be good in comp. And doing rankings based on a themeless "I have a shoebox full of cards" deck is gonna upset people who know better. "Ditto could be anything, even Dragonite" has such "the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!" energy.
Being right while others are wrong hurts zoomie fee fees. It’s “his truth” after all right? Who’s to say anyone is wrong about anything? That would be mean and confrontational!
Fossil Dragonite is probably my most nostalgic pokemon card. I had no idea how to play the game (still don't) but i thought the card art was so cute! That and the bk keychain i got from a yard sale are proboy big reasons as to why i love that line so much
If you want to learn the game TCG Online is pretty good, but, you're playing the current tcg which is fun, but different. For the original tcg, the Gameboy version available now on the switch gamenoy emulator is a fun afternoon or two
I mean, Wigglytuffs deck was incredibly strong, though, so of course youd build a deck around it to bring out that incredible strength. Any good card can be bad if played in a bad deck.
Wigglytuff still tends to be good in standard decks due to your draw power and how easy it is to fill out a bench, i don't think anyone was genuinely mad at you, if they were they didnt hear that you said it was your opinion. We all love ya Paraspectre.
He was coping instead of just admitting he was wrong. And the comments he posted showing people letting him know were polite as well. He’s just mad cuz bad.
Well as far as the comments he showed, a lot of them acknowledged that he mentioned that's his opinion, is just that his opinion is missing the forest for the trees
@@GhGh-gq8oomabe it's mid in the gameboy game? collecting, deck building, and opponents play patterns are way different there than when you're playing tabletop. i think it's 100% fair to see wigglytuff as mid given his experience with the card.
Fossil was one of the first sets I got my mum to buy me as a kid. So many great memories. Highlights for me a Omanite and Grimer (which I had both pulled from my first fossil pack). There is so much going on in those illustrations. From the placid temple ruins in Omanite’s background, to the moody nightly industrial view in Grimer’s. Also I was always so surprised by Mysterious Fossil. I used to ask myself how a Trainer card could have HP lol
My boyfriend got me a holo Dragonite from this set for Pride month last year. Its my second favorite pokemon and the rainbow background was adorabley thematic. I think its probably a reprint since the OGs are so pricey, but hes in a protective sleeve on my bulletin board above my desk and by my Dragonite plushie and they keep me company as I write my books. Thanks for the history lesson on the set he came from!!!!! Love your videos
Hello Paraspectre, nice video, looks like there was alot of work to make. I'm really glad to see people discussing old TCG expasions, i found your channel because of my love for the 2 pokemon tcg titles for the gameboy colour, I'm a big fan of the pixelart style and convertion the dev had to do to make the card art on a tiny screen. After watching alot of your videos and replaying the second pokemon tcg 2, i've started a project that sounded simple in my mind but was much more work than expected. The project idea was to make a pixelart version of all cards featured on the pokemon tcg2 (441 cards) and make them physical for playing in real life with friends (because like you mentioned in the video, old cards are kinda expensive). The first step of the project for me was to find the best and cheapest way to make the cards, after some experiences with diferent papers and using a laminating machine, i had an idea: - Print the cards with a thin photo paper and use cheap plastic to laminate (a box with 100 sheets is less than 2 dollars). For the holografic cards i got some holografic vynil sticker sheet (and it worked fine imo). But before all the printing i've spent some good 10 or 11 days designing the cards to be pixelart based, placing all arts from the pokemon tcg2, writing all text from all moves and placing in the limited space on each card. I did 440 cards, i just left one card out of it (that crazy random move mew that was exclusive for the gameboy colour games, the one that was impossible to get in the english speaking versions of the first game). After all that work i started printing, cutting and laminating each card. For sumery my project is to print 8 of each pokemon or trainer card and 40 of each basic energy, soo in total im gonna have more than 3.500 cards. And why im talking about this project here in the comment of this video? There are some reasons for that: 1- I think this is something that i think you will find interesting. 2 - I dont know a good way to share this project soo other people could enjoy the resources i've created. 3 - Maybe i could find other people who would be interested in helping on this project (Like feedback on changes to card designs, better ways to print, or maybe even make a small team to make a new related project : Making Unoficial Expasions based on this classic era in the same pixelart aesthetic) btw thanks alot if you read all this big all of text
I would like to collaborate with you comparing Antiquities to Fossil and Mirage to Jungle. I think Legends is like Gym Leader and Ice Age is like Team Rocket. Base Set and Base Set 2 are obviously to compare to ABU. I don't have a lot of experience as a RUclipsr but I've been wanting to see early Magic Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh get this sort of treatment since 2019. Arabian Nights/Pharonic Guardian Antiquities/Fossil/Metal Raiders Legends/Gym Leader/Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon The Dark/Team Rocket/Labyrinth of Nightmare Fallen Empires/Gym Challenge/Legacy of Darkness Ice Age/Legendary Collection/Dark Crisis Alliances/?/Magician's Force Tempest/Neo Genesis Stronghold/Neo Destiny Exodus/Neo Revelation Urza's Block/Invasion of Chaos Something like that!!!!!
I just take these as TCG deckbuild theory videos. Meta is strong, but deck styles are fun to build and theorize for on your own, too, though. That exploration is the best part. I've been enjoying these. I haven't played in a very long time, myself though
Aerodactyl is great on multi energy decks. Cause you don't need fighting type energy to use him. I tcg the game I run a Mew Anti Evo deck that took advantage of Mew's Evolution punishing abilites combined with Aerodactyl to keep things it devolved devolved.
Really excited for the next installment! Even if you already covered the Dark pokemon, it will be really need to see a comprehensive retrospective with the whole set. Good work as always! ❤
Actually energy search is extremely useful in a monotype energy if you follow more "modern" deck building strategies. Having 4 energy searches and 16 energies is much more useful than having no energy searches and 20 energies. Drawing an ES is basically drawing 2 cards at the same time which thins your deck by removing energies so that you can draw better cards down the line AND in the beginning of the game it's essentially a free prize check.
I remember when fossil was released I was in grade 4 or 5 living in Kamloops, BC, Canada at the time. This set is when the Pokemon craze was really taking off in my area. Every Kid was bringing their binders full of cards to school to trade. key word being WAS, because after a few fights broke out between students over stolen cards my school BANNED taking pokemon cards to school. This was catastrophic to my social life at the time where my sense of community was highly tied to playing and trading cards. Luckily the local toys r us hosted the pokemon trading card league which helped fill the void for the die hard fans that needed to get out and trade and battle. such a magical time and somehow i still have my cards and so many memories tied to them.
A few things to note. Wigglytuff's Do the Wave does indeed require you fill your bench up to be of use. However, because the game at that point relied heavily on drawing as much as possible with Bill and Professor Oak, you were likely to pull this off easily. Especially since Wigglytuff was Colorless, which made it easy to fit in just about any deck. As for Aerodactyl and Muk, neither were ever used for attacking. They were always meant to be used solely for their Pokémon Powers. Muk would see more use during Team Rocket and Neo Genesis to counter Dark Vileplume and Slowking, however Aerodactyl's main use was to counter Blastoise. During that point of the game, very rarely did people rely on evolutions due to there being so many strong Basic Pokémon. With Aerodactyl being comboed with Mew, the idea was to trap your opponent from ever being able to evolve anymore after they've likely gotten Blastoise. Meanwhile, Mew would use Devolution Beam on it once it's taken at least 40 damage, due to most decks opting to use Pokémon Breeder to skip Wartortle. Also, there's no way Porygon was ever considered useful for stall. Especially not with Hitmonchan and Machop being in the same set it was introduced in and having only 30 HP.
Another fun video. I'm kinda puzzled by how underpowered certain cards are. Like, Cloyster with only 50 HP, really? And Kabutops is a stage 2 with only 60? Slowbro's power would be so much better if it had more than 60. Still a fun set though with a lot of cool cards, and super nostalgic.
It's likely that the designers went off the original Pokemons' base health and didnt factor in any defensive stats, though some cards kinda deviate from this idea like Onix
Hope you do these for the following sets as well, real nostalgic! I never played the card game itself, just collected them, so its fun to hear what I was missing out on all those years ago.
"wax nostalgia and have fun" no pokemon TCG expert myself I like learning and just seeing stuff I haven't in over two decades and liking the images and analysis
Buddy, don’t care too much about what other people are saying. It’s fine if you mis-ranked the cards, most of us here are looking for entertainment, not validation. Don’t pressure yourself too much with what commenters are saying, really, it’s fine, we’re all just having fun here, retrospectively looking back into our childhood. Edit: looking forward to the Base Set 2/Team Rocket video! The trainer cards in the Rocket set are absolute monsters way back then.
It's nice to see a casual, nostalgic look at these cards. I've played the fossil format so much that my appreciation for some of these "garbage" cards have completely gone away
Energy Search is not worthless in a monocolour deck. It's deck thinning. You're less likely to draw more energy after playing Energy Search. Moreso if you play all 4.
I always really look forward to these set breakdowns. Even if I have every single one of these cards memorized, these looks back are both nostalgic and fun. I've always been a bit sour on how they handled Cloyster and Tentacruel, though. Both of them are not only super bulky in the main games (completely botched with the 50 and 60 HP they have, respectively) and Cloyster was one of the best Water-types you could use in a Gen 1 playthrough! My favorites here are probably the Gastly line, Magmar, Lapras and Golduck
I still have my fossil holos from when I was a kid. 2 Articunos, Haunter, Hypno, Magneton and Hitmonlee. This set definitely came out during peak Pokemania.
Kind of weirdly, I don't think Fossil really shook up the game very much, in contrast to Base Set and Jungle which had huge impacts. I think the only ones that saw much use were Psyduck, Muk, Aerodactyl, Arcticuno, Ditto, Magmar, and maybe Mr Fuji. The real big shakeup came from the Mewtwo promo that came out shortly after this set. I've also seen someone use Gambler as a way to save themselves from losing by milling out, which is funny.
Considering Base Set was the first set, it had to have a considerable influence on the game. In that it allowed it to exist in the TCG space to begin with.
@@NecromancyForKids Obviously. But I meant more that a lot of the cards in it were really good at the time, and kept being really good even as more sets were added.
Yeah, most of the Fossil cards are just being used to complement already existing strategies, eg. Magmar as another Haymaker candidate/Scyther counter, Aerodactyl to prevent Wigglytuff and Blastoise from getting on the field, Muk to counter Aerodactyl, and Articuno replacing Lapras in Raindancer decks. All are sound plan, but it didn’t really shake up the meta in general.
I think Kabutops is one of the worst card in the history of the pokemon tcg tho. 60 hp for a 2 stage is ridiculous, especially since it force you to play a do nothing card like mysterious fossil and the reward is really underwelming. .
I've had a ton of fun using Gengar and Hypno in a deck, because of how their attacks synergize with Gengar's pokepower. Takes a lot of setup given the 2 stage evolution, but man is it fun if it works (I only use it in the GBC game). My favorite of all the Fossile cards is definitely Ghastly though. Retrieving energy while being resistant to Fighting and having a decent 50 HP is really nice. I've actually used it without Haunter and Gengar in a few decks. The Sloepoke is awesome too. Retrieving Prof Oak? Yes please. Or you can retrieve fossils, which I think is why it's here. Speaking of the fossil pokemon, I never actually used any of them. I never found them to be worth it with the extra fossil stage. That said, Aerodactyl definitely seems strong, even though I never actually built a deck for it. It seems primed to work with the usual Haymaker bros. I also wanna say, I find it fascinating just how much more I like some of these artworks in high contrast pixel art. Aerodactyl and Tentacruel are prime examples, but the aforementioned Fossil Gastly as well. I'm probably biased since I played the GBC game so much more, but they look so much more impactful there I feel.
I'm actually a big Kingler fan, if you take into account the Krabby it comes from. You can use the first Krabby to fill up your bench and soak up damage, then evolve it into Kingler for a powerful flail all for only 1 energy AND while safely setting up a crabhammer in the back. One of my favorite little strats for sure (that also synergizes well with Wiggly if you feel like giving that a shot) Also after all these years I still can't get over how perfect that Omanyte looks :)
Ive been loving your vidoes! Im so glad I've came across your channel, its been a small blessing in my life right now not gonna lie. Thank you for all you r great work and i hope to see the games ive played snd loved as a kid! I was wondering if you had plans on making a Fossil only deck? From my experience playing the old games, The Fossil pokemon are very slept on, one more so then the others for sure lol
I feel like you could maybe make something work by having slowbro take damage from your other mons, then use mews devolution beam to then use slowpokes self healing ability.
I get where you're coming from on your rankings and them being your opinion, but I still don't understand what you're getting at with the "basic deck" concept. Even if a deck isn't super optimized and calculated down to the card, isn't it still going to be built around actually using the Pokemon in it? Like, yeah a deck without a lot of pokemon isn't going to be good for Wigglytuff, but that means it's a deck Wigglytuff wouldn't go in, so why is that a factor? It comes across a little like saying "Wigglytuff isn't great because if you play it wrong, it's bad." For an example in this video, it feels like you really undervalued Aerodactyl's pokemon power. It's incredibly disruptive against any deck that relies on evolution, and there are several Base-Fossil era decks that are disrupted by that. Same with Muk being a defining card which shuts down any power based deck like Damage Swap, Venu-Center and Rain Dance. It feels like, unless there is a direct pokemon comparison like with the lightning types, you aren't really taking cross set synergy and effects into account?
What I mean by “basic deck” is more along the lines of a deck where you are just using Pokémon you like or even the packaged theme decks or something. And you’re exactly right. If your deck focuses on tons of Pokémon, Wigglytuff is ideal. If it doesn’t, it’s not ideal. So you wouldn’t use Wigglytuff. That was really my point. So many people were telling me that it’s objectively the best, and I take that accolade as that it should excel in every deck and I’m saying it won’t.
@@Paraspectreit seems like your idea of an "objectively best" card is a jack of all trades, which is counterintuitive to deck building in most TCGs. I think more thoroughly explaining your criteria will shut up any detractors
1:32 You did a rather poor job in trying to dig yourself out of this hole. Objectively there has to a card better than the rest, a card worse than the rest, and a bunch of cards ranked in the middle. Wigglytuff is objectively the best colorless rare in that set. You can see this by deck reports from back in the day. I get that you based what you said on your opinion and not actual thought to the game mechanics are a whole, but you didnt explain that and then doubled down in the beginning of this video. With thay being said, I still like these videos and calling them your personal favorites makes more logical sense.
I don't know how other people would feel about it, but I'd be interested if you did a video like this for the MTG sets that were coming out when you first started playing. It might be tricky though considering how big MTG sets are.
Right? I don’t play the game against real people so I really have no interest in building the best decks. I’m much more interested in think of fun challenge ideas and collecting the physical cards.
I mean, some of them might be, but, really, nobody is taking it that seriously with the comments. It’s totally understandable if he isn’t really well-versed in the meta and was just stating his opinions, we still respect what he has to say. But, of course, that doesn’t mean we don’t have a say on it too, since some of us here are actually well-versed in the meta back in the day. We’re just stating facts here, in a friendly manner. Relax, buddy, “why so serious?” (as the Joker says it lol).
I feel like rankings would probably vary a lot by strategy or deck preference so technically any card can be bad I don’t know how to play very well yet though so take this with a grain of salt
Energy Search thins your deck even in a mono color deck and fixes energy in a multi-color deck there is almost no reason not to run 4. Not the most powerful staple but its quite overpowered due to no downside and is a free tutor. It just not OP in the sense that Bill, Professor Oak, and Computer search is busted. But the fact it fixes energy in muti-color deck puts it as an A+ card. Gambler: In most other game context another ridiculously broken card, just dump your hand and then use gambler and it will either replace itself or net you +7 cards. It not as good only because Professor Oak exist and can be played in the same deck. It's also worse in most case because it shuffle your cards into your deck instead of a discard. It also slightly bad to have multiple gamble in hand as you cannot dump the extra gamble and it always correct to play Oak over gamble. However, it draws 4.5 cards on average so... OP card. Filling your bench a very easy task if you are abusing the computer search + Oak combo back in those days meaning Wiggletuff would be a very splashable card that can do 60 damage for 3 colorless energy and its 80 health is a very good number. It not as splashable as snorelax or scyther being an evolution but you do not actually need to completely fill your bench for it to be useful 2 or 3. As for Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan, Jab into Special Punch was comically Op giving you the opportunity to close out the game very quickly or when running multiple. Stretch kick cost 1 more and doesn't work if there are no bench pokemon if it had been a Hitmonchan it would have close out the game. There a reason it a crazy iconic card along with the Venesaur, Blastoise, and Charizard.
Geodude's attack averages 10 damage. For 2 energy, that's bad. Sandslash's Fury Swipes should average 32.5 damage, making it the better attack (assuming you have plenty of Fighting energy).
So yeah, at the very end of the video you mention you and your friends felt like you were too grown up for Pokemon and that Magic was for adults or whatever dumb shit teenagers think, well Wizards intended that. They started cutting the 15+ tournaments towards the end of their run to try and force young adults and adults into getting into Magic the Gathering instead. They did a lot of shitty stuff, to be honest. Base Set 2 was... um, well it's not a terrible idea these days but just after Fossil had come out making a set that was just Base Set and Jungle was really kind of weird. Definitely a cash grab. Imagine the alternate universe where instead of that we got the Vending series.
I think kabutops is probably the worst card in all of base through fossil. 60hp on a stage 2 is just sad and 4 fighting energy just to do 40 damage. at least aerodactyl stops pokemon from evolving which is way more useful.
It's kinda funny how every time they've added a new type to the video games they've added it to the TCG, but ground and rock still aren't distinct from fighting
Well yes and no. Dark and Steel coming to the TCG as Darkness and Metal were sorely needed additions as they were in the VG, but Fairy was eventually deprecated and rolled over into the Psychic types. Having too many types breaks the game, so you had to consolidate types where possible.
@@PkmnMstr10 Well they removed fairy, but that doesn't change the fact that all three times they added a type to the video game they added it to the tcg, it just means they rolled one of them back. Clearly they initially felt it had to be added.
You're sleeping hard on Fossil Gastly. I used to run a Chansey-Gastly-Aerodactyl deck in Base-Rocket. The idea was that decks from that time tended to focus on a lot of 70-80HP basics and concentrated almost entirely on getting an early prize lead, so having Chansey self-destruct and OHKO their Pokemon was something the decks didn't really have an answer for (their only real late-game option was having Mewtwo recover discarded energy, but it can't really do much to Chansey). Fossil Gastly pretty much carried the deck on its back, since it's the only card in the format that can reliably recover Double Colorless Energy, walls Hitmonchan, is a free pivot, and hits under Mime's barrier. Its first attack could also sometimes buy an extra turn or two in the early game. You could also run it for the same reasons in Wigglytuff. Legitimately one of the most underlooked cards in the set.
My friend flipped 22 heads in a row with Geodude once. Shit was wild. He killed what ever he was killing but we just let him keep flipping to see how long it could go.
@@Paraspectre big damage! Yeah unfortunately I can't remember who was getting attacked but I do remember where we were. We were in the back yard of my buddies house on the picnic table playing I was running my dark vileplum/muk deck
@@bradlauk1419 Even assuming the coin they were using was completely fair, it's not that hard to get reasonably consistent at flipping a coin, or to use some sleight of hand or other tricks to manipulate the outcome. At least enough to bring 22 heads down from "insanely improbable" to "pretty unlikely."
I used to play pokemon cards with a somewhat gullible friend and I flipped my coins so that they always came up heads so I would destroy him with Geodude
Can I just take a moment to say how much I appreciate your music choices throughout this extensive review. You could have just quietly looped the same tracks over and over for 40 minutes. But the music changes and matches the various types and mon as you review them. Great work. Also, if people disagree, that's GREAT. It's more interaction in your comments section to be had. So long as they don't rage too hard at you.
Thank you for noticing the music! I don’t put TOO much thought into it, but I definitely try and match the song as best as possible.
this is some insane nostalgia, like, "i can smell the cards freshly opened from booster packs" level of nostalgia :D
I’d love to find an unopened Fossil pack
fresh Pokemon cards smell the best
I’m pretty sure Porygon is terrible no matter what. 30 HP makes it impossible to stall with against a good deck.
Oh it certainly is terrible. But it can still not even be hit by attacks 30 or less if you get Conversion 2 off in time.
Or defenders
@@Paraspectreuntil they swap out or use switch or gust of wind. . . Mister mime on the other hand. . .
I would rather use Mr. Mime with no Psychic energy than have Porygon in my deck.
It isn't that bad but it's certainly made irrelevant by better Porygons later that have the same effect but more HP
It made sense for Mew to be in this set.
It's the ancestor of all Pokemon meaning it has to be Ancient.
has to be no. it is ancient.
That dragonite is still the most nostalgic for me. It's still just such beautiful artwork and of course I got the holo. I still remember that pull.
Wow, this video feels like the old school early 2010s Pokémon videos I used to watch as a kid. Absolutely amazing content!!
I mean, Para, you gotta realize that "basing an entire deck on a specific thing" is how meta decks operate. What's good in casual will not be good in comp. And doing rankings based on a themeless "I have a shoebox full of cards" deck is gonna upset people who know better.
"Ditto could be anything, even Dragonite" has such "the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!" energy.
Being right while others are wrong hurts zoomie fee fees. It’s “his truth” after all right? Who’s to say anyone is wrong about anything? That would be mean and confrontational!
True, saying Wigglytuff is bad cuz It cant be used "standard" deck, what?
Ranking the original tcg by what cards were competively best will read exactly like a list of "which cards broke the game the most" 😂
So a better way to phrase your ranking criteria would probably be "How good is this card if it's in a bad deck"
Much less confusion that way I think
I was thinking the same thing. As he was explaining, i thought to myself "aren't most viable decks built around a specific pokemon or set of pokemon?"
Gotta note that Energy Search even in a mono colored deck deck thins. It may not be relevant back then, it its relevant now.
Yeah I did not consider this at the time
Fossil Dragonite is probably my most nostalgic pokemon card. I had no idea how to play the game (still don't) but i thought the card art was so cute! That and the bk keychain i got from a yard sale are proboy big reasons as to why i love that line so much
Hey, you saw the top 10 most valuable list (at least you did if you watched to the end). Best card in the set right there
If you want to learn the game TCG Online is pretty good, but, you're playing the current tcg which is fun, but different. For the original tcg, the Gameboy version available now on the switch gamenoy emulator is a fun afternoon or two
I mean, Wigglytuffs deck was incredibly strong, though, so of course youd build a deck around it to bring out that incredible strength. Any good card can be bad if played in a bad deck.
Or you put a bunch of non synergistic good stuf cards then ya.
Wigglytuff still tends to be good in standard decks due to your draw power and how easy it is to fill out a bench, i don't think anyone was genuinely mad at you, if they were they didnt hear that you said it was your opinion. We all love ya Paraspectre.
He was coping instead of just admitting he was wrong. And the comments he posted showing people letting him know were polite as well. He’s just mad cuz bad.
Well as far as the comments he showed, a lot of them acknowledged that he mentioned that's his opinion, is just that his opinion is missing the forest for the trees
@@GhGh-gq8oomabe it's mid in the gameboy game? collecting, deck building, and opponents play patterns are way different there than when you're playing tabletop. i think it's 100% fair to see wigglytuff as mid given his experience with the card.
Fossil was one of the first sets I got my mum to buy me as a kid. So many great memories. Highlights for me a Omanite and Grimer (which I had both pulled from my first fossil pack). There is so much going on in those illustrations. From the placid temple ruins in Omanite’s background, to the moody nightly industrial view in Grimer’s. Also I was always so surprised by Mysterious Fossil. I used to ask myself how a Trainer card could have HP lol
The music in this video is absolutely spot on.
Caves and Dinos 🦖
45:31 I will ALWAYS pick the Dome fossil simply because Kabutops is my favorite Pokémon.
My boyfriend got me a holo Dragonite from this set for Pride month last year. Its my second favorite pokemon and the rainbow background was adorabley thematic. I think its probably a reprint since the OGs are so pricey, but hes in a protective sleeve on my bulletin board above my desk and by my Dragonite plushie and they keep me company as I write my books. Thanks for the history lesson on the set he came from!!!!! Love your videos
Hey I can absolutely relate to that. My Parasect plushie is with me every time I write these. And I also do like the artwork on that Dragonite card
Hello Paraspectre, nice video, looks like there was alot of work to make.
I'm really glad to see people discussing old TCG expasions, i found your channel because of my love for the 2 pokemon tcg titles for the gameboy colour, I'm a big fan of the pixelart style and convertion the dev had to do to make the card art on a tiny screen.
After watching alot of your videos and replaying the second pokemon tcg 2, i've started a project that sounded simple in my mind but was much more work than expected. The project idea was to make a pixelart version of all cards featured on the pokemon tcg2 (441 cards) and make them physical for playing in real life with friends (because like you mentioned in the video, old cards are kinda expensive).
The first step of the project for me was to find the best and cheapest way to make the cards, after some experiences with diferent papers and using a laminating machine, i had an idea:
- Print the cards with a thin photo paper and use cheap plastic to laminate (a box with 100 sheets is less than 2 dollars). For the holografic cards i got some holografic vynil sticker sheet (and it worked fine imo).
But before all the printing i've spent some good 10 or 11 days designing the cards to be pixelart based, placing all arts from the pokemon tcg2, writing all text from all moves and placing in the limited space on each card. I did 440 cards, i just left one card out of it (that crazy random move mew that was exclusive for the gameboy colour games, the one that was impossible to get in the english speaking versions of the first game). After all that work i started printing, cutting and laminating each card.
For sumery my project is to print 8 of each pokemon or trainer card and 40 of each basic energy, soo in total im gonna have more than 3.500 cards. And why im talking about this project here in the comment of this video?
There are some reasons for that:
1- I think this is something that i think you will find interesting.
2 - I dont know a good way to share this project soo other people could enjoy the resources i've created.
3 - Maybe i could find other people who would be interested in helping on this project (Like feedback on changes to card designs, better ways to print, or maybe even make a small team to make a new related project : Making Unoficial Expasions based on this classic era in the same pixelart aesthetic)
btw thanks alot if you read all this big all of text
I think this is an excellent idea! I would like to see some of them
I would love to have a Zapdos from the gbc game as a real card
I would like to collaborate with you comparing Antiquities to Fossil and Mirage to Jungle.
I think Legends is like Gym Leader and Ice Age is like Team Rocket.
Base Set and Base Set 2 are obviously to compare to ABU.
I don't have a lot of experience as a RUclipsr but I've been wanting to see early Magic Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh get this sort of treatment since 2019.
Arabian Nights/Pharonic Guardian
Antiquities/Fossil/Metal Raiders
Legends/Gym Leader/Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon
The Dark/Team Rocket/Labyrinth of Nightmare
Fallen Empires/Gym Challenge/Legacy of Darkness
Ice Age/Legendary Collection/Dark Crisis
Alliances/?/Magician's Force
Tempest/Neo Genesis
Stronghold/Neo Destiny
Exodus/Neo Revelation
Urza's Block/Invasion of Chaos
Something like that!!!!!
I just take these as TCG deckbuild theory videos. Meta is strong, but deck styles are fun to build and theorize for on your own, too, though. That exploration is the best part. I've been enjoying these. I haven't played in a very long time, myself though
Aerodactyl is great on multi energy decks.
Cause you don't need fighting type energy to use him.
I tcg the game I run a Mew Anti Evo deck that took advantage of Mew's Evolution punishing abilites combined with Aerodactyl to keep things it devolved devolved.
Really excited for the next installment! Even if you already covered the Dark pokemon, it will be really need to see a comprehensive retrospective with the whole set. Good work as always! ❤
Actually energy search is extremely useful in a monotype energy if you follow more "modern" deck building strategies. Having 4 energy searches and 16 energies is much more useful than having no energy searches and 20 energies. Drawing an ES is basically drawing 2 cards at the same time which thins your deck by removing energies so that you can draw better cards down the line AND in the beginning of the game it's essentially a free prize check.
I will admit, I did not consider this.
@@Paraspectre It's ok, I really only started exploring the classic TCG after seeing some of your videos.
I remember when fossil was released I was in grade 4 or 5 living in Kamloops, BC, Canada at the time. This set is when the Pokemon craze was really taking off in my area. Every Kid was bringing their binders full of cards to school to trade. key word being WAS, because after a few fights broke out between students over stolen cards my school BANNED taking pokemon cards to school. This was catastrophic to my social life at the time where my sense of community was highly tied to playing and trading cards. Luckily the local toys r us hosted the pokemon trading card league which helped fill the void for the die hard fans that needed to get out and trade and battle. such a magical time and somehow i still have my cards and so many memories tied to them.
Oh wow is that Them Bones in the SM64 sound font. Very nice
A few things to note.
Wigglytuff's Do the Wave does indeed require you fill your bench up to be of use. However, because the game at that point relied heavily on drawing as much as possible with Bill and Professor Oak, you were likely to pull this off easily. Especially since Wigglytuff was Colorless, which made it easy to fit in just about any deck.
As for Aerodactyl and Muk, neither were ever used for attacking. They were always meant to be used solely for their Pokémon Powers. Muk would see more use during Team Rocket and Neo Genesis to counter Dark Vileplume and Slowking, however Aerodactyl's main use was to counter Blastoise. During that point of the game, very rarely did people rely on evolutions due to there being so many strong Basic Pokémon. With Aerodactyl being comboed with Mew, the idea was to trap your opponent from ever being able to evolve anymore after they've likely gotten Blastoise. Meanwhile, Mew would use Devolution Beam on it once it's taken at least 40 damage, due to most decks opting to use Pokémon Breeder to skip Wartortle.
Also, there's no way Porygon was ever considered useful for stall. Especially not with Hitmonchan and Machop being in the same set it was introduced in and having only 30 HP.
Another fun video. I'm kinda puzzled by how underpowered certain cards are. Like, Cloyster with only 50 HP, really? And Kabutops is a stage 2 with only 60? Slowbro's power would be so much better if it had more than 60. Still a fun set though with a lot of cool cards, and super nostalgic.
It's likely that the designers went off the original Pokemons' base health and didnt factor in any defensive stats, though some cards kinda deviate from this idea like Onix
Theme decks!? Boy oh boy oh boy, will you be making videos of them too? I have so much nostalgia on those
that link to the past music around the 14 minute mark was hitting haha
great video, man! super nostalgic
Hope you do these for the following sets as well, real nostalgic! I never played the card game itself, just collected them, so its fun to hear what I was missing out on all those years ago.
"wax nostalgia and have fun" no pokemon TCG expert myself I like learning and just seeing stuff I haven't in over two decades and liking the images and analysis
That’s exactly how I felt before making card videos
Buddy, don’t care too much about what other people are saying. It’s fine if you mis-ranked the cards, most of us here are looking for entertainment, not validation. Don’t pressure yourself too much with what commenters are saying, really, it’s fine, we’re all just having fun here, retrospectively looking back into our childhood.
Edit: looking forward to the Base Set 2/Team Rocket video! The trainer cards in the Rocket set are absolute monsters way back then.
It's nice to see a casual, nostalgic look at these cards. I've played the fossil format so much that my appreciation for some of these "garbage" cards have completely gone away
Energy Search is not worthless in a monocolour deck. It's deck thinning. You're less likely to draw more energy after playing Energy Search. Moreso if you play all 4.
Yeah I did not consider this at the time
I always really look forward to these set breakdowns. Even if I have every single one of these cards memorized, these looks back are both nostalgic and fun.
I've always been a bit sour on how they handled Cloyster and Tentacruel, though. Both of them are not only super bulky in the main games (completely botched with the 50 and 60 HP they have, respectively) and Cloyster was one of the best Water-types you could use in a Gen 1 playthrough!
My favorites here are probably the Gastly line, Magmar, Lapras and Golduck
Just finished another video. And there is the paraspectre!
Enjoy the video, yall :)
What timing 😊
I still have my fossil holos from when I was a kid. 2 Articunos, Haunter, Hypno, Magneton and Hitmonlee. This set definitely came out during peak Pokemania.
Some solid holos to have too!
Aww yeaaa it's paraspectre time
Keep these coming!
Oh there will be more!
yay was waiting for it
Kind of weirdly, I don't think Fossil really shook up the game very much, in contrast to Base Set and Jungle which had huge impacts. I think the only ones that saw much use were Psyduck, Muk, Aerodactyl, Arcticuno, Ditto, Magmar, and maybe Mr Fuji. The real big shakeup came from the Mewtwo promo that came out shortly after this set.
I've also seen someone use Gambler as a way to save themselves from losing by milling out, which is funny.
I’ve run into a few occasions where a tails with Gambler would’ve been better ☺️. And I agree about Fossil not changing much up.
Considering Base Set was the first set, it had to have a considerable influence on the game. In that it allowed it to exist in the TCG space to begin with.
@@NecromancyForKids Obviously. But I meant more that a lot of the cards in it were really good at the time, and kept being really good even as more sets were added.
Yeah, most of the Fossil cards are just being used to complement already existing strategies, eg. Magmar as another Haymaker candidate/Scyther counter, Aerodactyl to prevent Wigglytuff and Blastoise from getting on the field, Muk to counter Aerodactyl, and Articuno replacing Lapras in Raindancer decks. All are sound plan, but it didn’t really shake up the meta in general.
I think Kabutops is one of the worst card in the history of the pokemon tcg tho. 60 hp for a 2 stage is ridiculous, especially since it force you to play a do nothing card like mysterious fossil and the reward is really underwelming. .
Yeah. Even Machamp is better than it, which is not saying much when Hitmonchad is too good in Gen 1 TCG.
That’s fair. If you are able to evolve it and get all of those energies, it can still hold its own with the self heal though.
The Fossil theme decks were definitely a display of clever packaging.
Babe wake up, there's a new Paraspectre video
I've had a ton of fun using Gengar and Hypno in a deck, because of how their attacks synergize with Gengar's pokepower. Takes a lot of setup given the 2 stage evolution, but man is it fun if it works (I only use it in the GBC game). My favorite of all the Fossile cards is definitely Ghastly though. Retrieving energy while being resistant to Fighting and having a decent 50 HP is really nice. I've actually used it without Haunter and Gengar in a few decks. The Sloepoke is awesome too. Retrieving Prof Oak? Yes please. Or you can retrieve fossils, which I think is why it's here.
Speaking of the fossil pokemon, I never actually used any of them. I never found them to be worth it with the extra fossil stage. That said, Aerodactyl definitely seems strong, even though I never actually built a deck for it. It seems primed to work with the usual Haymaker bros.
I also wanna say, I find it fascinating just how much more I like some of these artworks in high contrast pixel art. Aerodactyl and Tentacruel are prime examples, but the aforementioned Fossil Gastly as well. I'm probably biased since I played the GBC game so much more, but they look so much more impactful there I feel.
Yeah I pretty much agree with everything here. Some of that pixel art really does look great on the game
I have never played against or used the evolutions of mysterious fossil. The mysterious fossil card itself has proven to be useful for stalling.
It is nice just to throw into some random decks.
"Can i beat Pkmn Trading Card Game with only 4 Dittos?" i doubt this run is worth doing, but would be interesting.
I'm actually a big Kingler fan, if you take into account the Krabby it comes from. You can use the first Krabby to fill up your bench and soak up damage, then evolve it into Kingler for a powerful flail all for only 1 energy AND while safely setting up a crabhammer in the back. One of my favorite little strats for sure (that also synergizes well with Wiggly if you feel like giving that a shot)
Also after all these years I still can't get over how perfect that Omanyte looks :)
YOooo I just happen to be wearing my Paraspectre shirt today!
From the bonfire store? Heck yeah.
Love the channel paraspectre!
8:42 Fossil Geodude seems crappy, until your friend gets 12 heads in a row and it smokes your Kangaskhan.
fossil magmar made me switch from electric to fire as a kid, still one of my favorite openers
horsea and seadra also so lowkey good
They really are. Smokescreen is super annoying to deal with
is it weird that I still love this game and play it daily ?
I love your content bro
Thanks! Not weird at all. I’m constantly thinking of video ideas for it every day
Ive been loving your vidoes! Im so glad I've came across your channel, its been a small blessing in my life right now not gonna lie. Thank you for all you r great work and i hope to see the games ive played snd loved as a kid! I was wondering if you had plans on making a Fossil only deck? From my experience playing the old games, The Fossil pokemon are very slept on, one more so then the others for sure lol
I just found my pokemon cards last weekend. I have some shadowless bur I also found my favorite. A first Edition holofoil fossil Aerodactyl
Very awesome. I have a bunch of 1sr edition commons for Fossil, but none for holos
I feel like you could maybe make something work by having slowbro take damage from your other mons, then use mews devolution beam to then use slowpokes self healing ability.
Nice
I appreciate you using music from Dino Domain in the video. Now make a video about Diddy Kong Racing
Kabutops really has me thinking about Ken Griffey Jr. in the 1992 Simpsons episode Homer at the Bat
I can see it
The Slowpoke art is so good
Gengar is way too fun. Love some Dark Mind/Curse action.
Gotta be a top 3 favorite original card to play with
Ahh that and the Team Rocket set were my jam, didn’t know how to play the game but still hahaha.
Still cool cards to own ☺️
The midified Alice in Chains, Them Bones at 41:17 goes crazy.
I get where you're coming from on your rankings and them being your opinion, but I still don't understand what you're getting at with the "basic deck" concept. Even if a deck isn't super optimized and calculated down to the card, isn't it still going to be built around actually using the Pokemon in it? Like, yeah a deck without a lot of pokemon isn't going to be good for Wigglytuff, but that means it's a deck Wigglytuff wouldn't go in, so why is that a factor? It comes across a little like saying "Wigglytuff isn't great because if you play it wrong, it's bad."
For an example in this video, it feels like you really undervalued Aerodactyl's pokemon power. It's incredibly disruptive against any deck that relies on evolution, and there are several Base-Fossil era decks that are disrupted by that. Same with Muk being a defining card which shuts down any power based deck like Damage Swap, Venu-Center and Rain Dance. It feels like, unless there is a direct pokemon comparison like with the lightning types, you aren't really taking cross set synergy and effects into account?
What I mean by “basic deck” is more along the lines of a deck where you are just using Pokémon you like or even the packaged theme decks or something. And you’re exactly right. If your deck focuses on tons of Pokémon, Wigglytuff is ideal. If it doesn’t, it’s not ideal. So you wouldn’t use Wigglytuff. That was really my point. So many people were telling me that it’s objectively the best, and I take that accolade as that it should excel in every deck and I’m saying it won’t.
@@Paraspectreit seems like your idea of an "objectively best" card is a jack of all trades, which is counterintuitive to deck building in most TCGs. I think more thoroughly explaining your criteria will shut up any detractors
1:32 You did a rather poor job in trying to dig yourself out of this hole. Objectively there has to a card better than the rest, a card worse than the rest, and a bunch of cards ranked in the middle. Wigglytuff is objectively the best colorless rare in that set. You can see this by deck reports from back in the day. I get that you based what you said on your opinion and not actual thought to the game mechanics are a whole, but you didnt explain that and then doubled down in the beginning of this video.
With thay being said, I still like these videos and calling them your personal favorites makes more logical sense.
Great soundtrack as usual! Jurassic park and chrono trigger!
I don't know how other people would feel about it, but I'd be interested if you did a video like this for the MTG sets that were coming out when you first started playing. It might be tricky though considering how big MTG sets are.
Oops I meant to reply to you but it went in response to the next comment down
yay
Love your vids man! Reminds me of a more chill Spoony 😋
Wow, I don’t really see it but I appreciate the compliment 😅. I was a Spoony fan back in the day
Play the game with only the legendary birbs
If u use defender, weezing can survive its own explosion.
Very true, most of them can. Is it only Fossil Magneton and Golem who can’t?
From this set, only weezing can survive, magneton from base set can't and i dont remember anyone else from this tcg era that explodes...
Base Magnemite has the same hp as it’s Selfdestruct too
Love this as always
Is 150$ a good price for a 11 card pack of fossil as of November 2023?
30:12 they flipped them in the neo sets.
I love this. This guy is just making his own "I remember liking this card videos" and the community cannot let go of the meta. This is hilarious.
"I just think parasect is neat"
"NOOOOO"
I would agree except for the fact that he actively talks about meta strategies. It's either one thing or the other.
Right? I don’t play the game against real people so I really have no interest in building the best decks. I’m much more interested in think of fun challenge ideas and collecting the physical cards.
I mean, some of them might be, but, really, nobody is taking it that seriously with the comments. It’s totally understandable if he isn’t really well-versed in the meta and was just stating his opinions, we still respect what he has to say.
But, of course, that doesn’t mean we don’t have a say on it too, since some of us here are actually well-versed in the meta back in the day. We’re just stating facts here, in a friendly manner. Relax, buddy, “why so serious?” (as the Joker says it lol).
They weren’t even flaming him. They were politely telling him he was wrong. You’re a simp.
Song list?
Wait what set will this series end please tell me your going to do aquapolis
I’m doing all wizards of the coast sets
Koffing is on the cover because of Team Rocket in the anime using it early on before it evolved
I feel like rankings would probably vary a lot by strategy or deck preference so technically any card can be bad
I don’t know how to play very well yet though so take this with a grain of salt
IF rare candy is a thing in the old sets then hitting a mon with the mew attack to de-evolve the mon would hurt the OP a lot
I lov that OLD pokemon cards are always gambling and makes MANY viable to use even if they "suck" , that is the BEAUTY of them.
Energy Search thins your deck even in a mono color deck and fixes energy in a multi-color deck there is almost no reason not to run 4. Not the most powerful staple but its quite overpowered due to no downside and is a free tutor. It just not OP in the sense that Bill, Professor Oak, and Computer search is busted. But the fact it fixes energy in muti-color deck puts it as an A+ card.
Gambler: In most other game context another ridiculously broken card, just dump your hand and then use gambler and it will either replace itself or net you +7 cards. It not as good only because Professor Oak exist and can be played in the same deck. It's also worse in most case because it shuffle your cards into your deck instead of a discard. It also slightly bad to have multiple gamble in hand as you cannot dump the extra gamble and it always correct to play Oak over gamble. However, it draws 4.5 cards on average so... OP card.
Filling your bench a very easy task if you are abusing the computer search + Oak combo back in those days meaning Wiggletuff would be a very splashable card that can do 60 damage for 3 colorless energy and its 80 health is a very good number. It not as splashable as snorelax or scyther being an evolution but you do not actually need to completely fill your bench for it to be useful 2 or 3.
As for Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan, Jab into Special Punch was comically Op giving you the opportunity to close out the game very quickly or when running multiple. Stretch kick cost 1 more and doesn't work if there are no bench pokemon if it had been a Hitmonchan it would have close out the game. There a reason it a crazy iconic card along with the Venesaur, Blastoise, and Charizard.
I have a Japanese holo gengar and an English holo dragonite. I was happy to see my card collection as a kid is worth a little something 😅
39:15 is that the hazy maze cave music?
Geodude's attack averages 10 damage. For 2 energy, that's bad.
Sandslash's Fury Swipes should average 32.5 damage, making it the better attack (assuming you have plenty of Fighting energy).
So yeah, at the very end of the video you mention you and your friends felt like you were too grown up for Pokemon and that Magic was for adults or whatever dumb shit teenagers think, well Wizards intended that. They started cutting the 15+ tournaments towards the end of their run to try and force young adults and adults into getting into Magic the Gathering instead. They did a lot of shitty stuff, to be honest.
Base Set 2 was... um, well it's not a terrible idea these days but just after Fossil had come out making a set that was just Base Set and Jungle was really kind of weird. Definitely a cash grab. Imagine the alternate universe where instead of that we got the Vending series.
I think kabutops is probably the worst card in all of base through fossil. 60hp on a stage 2 is just sad and 4 fighting energy just to do 40 damage. at least aerodactyl stops pokemon from evolving which is way more useful.
Fair point. Kabutops is weirdly similar to Butterfree in that sense, but worse
@@Paraspectre lol gotta love that card art though
I like Kabutpos.
Kabutops is awesome. I just prefer Omastar 😊
It’s impossible for any human being to give a statement without personal bias
It's kinda funny how every time they've added a new type to the video games they've added it to the TCG, but ground and rock still aren't distinct from fighting
Well yes and no. Dark and Steel coming to the TCG as Darkness and Metal were sorely needed additions as they were in the VG, but Fairy was eventually deprecated and rolled over into the Psychic types. Having too many types breaks the game, so you had to consolidate types where possible.
@@PkmnMstr10 Well they removed fairy, but that doesn't change the fact that all three times they added a type to the video game they added it to the tcg, it just means they rolled one of them back. Clearly they initially felt it had to be added.
You're sleeping hard on Fossil Gastly. I used to run a Chansey-Gastly-Aerodactyl deck in Base-Rocket. The idea was that decks from that time tended to focus on a lot of 70-80HP basics and concentrated almost entirely on getting an early prize lead, so having Chansey self-destruct and OHKO their Pokemon was something the decks didn't really have an answer for (their only real late-game option was having Mewtwo recover discarded energy, but it can't really do much to Chansey). Fossil Gastly pretty much carried the deck on its back, since it's the only card in the format that can reliably recover Double Colorless Energy, walls Hitmonchan, is a free pivot, and hits under Mime's barrier. Its first attack could also sometimes buy an extra turn or two in the early game. You could also run it for the same reasons in Wigglytuff.
Legitimately one of the most underlooked cards in the set.
I DO love Fossil Gastly. Is this because I placed it lower than Slowbro? If so, I can see your points.
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My friend flipped 22 heads in a row with Geodude once. Shit was wild. He killed what ever he was killing but we just let him keep flipping to see how long it could go.
There is a 0.000023% chance of that happening. . . So I don't think your friend did.
@@bradlauk1419 I saw what I saw
Why that would be 440 damage against a Wigglytuff!
@@Paraspectre big damage! Yeah unfortunately I can't remember who was getting attacked but I do remember where we were. We were in the back yard of my buddies house on the picnic table playing I was running my dark vileplum/muk deck
@@bradlauk1419 Even assuming the coin they were using was completely fair, it's not that hard to get reasonably consistent at flipping a coin, or to use some sleight of hand or other tricks to manipulate the outcome. At least enough to bring 22 heads down from "insanely improbable" to "pretty unlikely."
Using Cephalid Snitch as the Magic: the Gathering version of Omanyte was a deep cut.
I LOVE MUK!!!!!!! THIS IS MY GOAT IN THE TCG GBCGAME!!!
Second game is the birds... Zapdos to be accurate
Godzilla and Jurassic Park? Like !
Fossil was the last truly great TCG set imo
It’s the last one I collected regularly
I used to play pokemon cards with a somewhat gullible friend and I flipped my coins so that they always came up heads so I would destroy him with Geodude
I'm a rebel so I'll pick the Dome Fossil. 😎
LFG!!!
Shroom boys
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Is that Jurassic Park