Percy Jackson and the Olympians 1x4 REACTION!! "I Plunge to My Death"
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Eric Janci Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss Percy Jackson and the Olympians season 1 episode 4 I Plunge to My Death - #percyjacksonandtheolympians
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0:53 - Reaction
11:55 - Gods Are Sucky Parents
14:53 - Hyperbole
16:01 - Chimera
18:48 - Gods Are Sucky Parents Cont.
20:38 - Pan & NSYNC
22:30 - How Are Demigods Made
25:33 - How Tall Is The Arch
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Puts out four episodes of Percy Jackson in one week……refuses to acknowledge the existence of the last eight episodes of Peaky Blinders 🤔
On Athena, she is Goddess of Wisdom and good counsel, war, the defense of towns, heroic endeavor, weaving, pottery and various other crafts. So, yes, she is the goddess of war. Aaron was correct on that.
She is more like the battle strategy and the planning of war than outright war the way Ares is.
And there's also Enyo, who is another goddess of war with a tilt toward destruction rather than strategy the same way Ares is.
More specifically she represents strategic war (tying into wisdom), whereas Ares is war in general. I believe they mention something like that in the next episode
I think chariots and flutes
I'd say art of warfare or something like that, not straight up war
"I thought it was over water!" Yeah, so did Rick Riordan lmao
Fun fact: in the original book Percy saw the water below him and jumped from the arch. This makes no sense because, unknown to the author at the time, the St. Louis Arch doesn't actually sit directly over the Mississippi. In order for Percy to have made it from the arch, he would've had to be falling at like a 30 degree angle all the way down. Hence why, in this series, they changed it so he fell and the river reached out to grab him.
I imagine the water spout wasn't a conscious creation by Percy. I like to think Poseidon created it for him.
@@Gestridit definitely was him right? Hence the river spirit
@@edwardguest1404 Yeah, that's what I think.
What I mean is that, while he may have intentionally jumped into the river in the book, he didn't intentionally create the water spout in the show.
I mean even by then Percy had already done some Superhuman things, I think a nice jump + some helpful wind from Poseidon would've made it plausible
@@phoebusapollo8365 Poseidon doesn’t control the wind though…
The impertinence isn't them killing Medusa, it's them sending the head to Olypmus.
I think their overlooking Percy being upset his father is absent because he’s just a kid, who’s had a shitty step dad and no real father figure.
Athena punishing her daughter for what Percy did just like she punished Medusa for what Poseidon did I call her the GODDESS OF PETTY
Okay, but facts. 🤣
Calvin saying he thought it was over water😭 so did the author
10:19 Rick Riordan thought the same - in the book, Percy jumps in.
can i just say, i really love janci and aaron's dynamic throughout these reactions. they really play off each other well during discussions and its really fun to watch them go back and forth on their thoughts and opinions
FYI: Echidna is not a goddess, she is a monster (half woman, half snake) that is called mother of monsters because she gave birth to many other monsters.
I mean, she technically is since she is the daughter of Titans Cetos and Phorcys, which makes her pretty much same "level" as the Gods.
(Or alternatively she can also be child of Gaia and Tartarus, which would imply that she is a Titan as powerful as Kronos himself.)
@@UlysseLaarwall Given the way she isnt able to interact directly with Percy but displays REALLY strong power (she ripped through part of the bridge by motioning her hand) she is likely more akin to a goddess and is not able to directly interact with the mortal world freely.
I think my favorite way I've ever seen Athena described is "Ares with braincells". Also, Athena is technically one of the maiden goddesses, so in my head, I've always imagined that Athena admires her kids' mortal parents- their intelligence, their potential, etc.- and bases her brain-children off of that. I don't usually think of her as having any sort of romantic or sexual relationship with mortals, it's more of an appreciation/respect/friendship that she wants to honor.
Athena is often depicted as a good willed Goddess, patron of a lot of heroes like Aquilles and Odysseus, the protector of Athens. But she was also incredibly spiteful as we saw with Medusa and she had no problem endorsing wars, she organized the Greeks against Troy after Paris didn’t choose her as the most beautiful.
Yeah, it was Nereid the one that talked to Percy (not a mermaid since they aren't in greek mythology nor a Siren), although it seems that she was in disguise as some kind of Jellyfish, she is actually a sea goddess. In the books she looked like Percy's mom, so it was a nice touch that she said the same words as Sally did to young Percy in the flashback.
The Nereids are the 50 sea goddess, one of them being Poseidon's wife Amphitrite. It is kinda interesting that Poseidon sent one of his sisters in law to save Percy.
FYI, The Underworld (Hades) is not Hell. All of the dead, the good, the bad, and the meh, go there. The Good go to Elysium, the bad go to the Fields of Punishment, and the rest are in Asphodel.
There's also the Tartarus for those who are exceptionally good at being horrible
@@heyitsmira17 Imagine being bunkmates with Kronos
@@heyitsmira17yer Tartarus is basically Hell
@@maddoxio gonna need lots of double and triple beds for all of his little parts scattered around those dorms
The best way to traverse is the twin fists of Malphon
Aaron is right! Among Athena's titles is 100% Goddess of War
Battle strategy which usually gets mixed up with Bellona the Roman goddess who shares the domain of war with Mars
@@JustinVanTrump Mars doesn't exist in Greek mythology. Mars is the roman one, the Greek one is Ares, although there are other gods that are officially known as a god of war. One of Athena's titles is "Goddess of war", the aspect of war might be a different one than for other gods, though.
@@Nick-nt1sb I know that was why I said what I said lmfao
They point out the hedgehog thing in the book and Echidna gets upset about it
I think this is much more closer to the books in comparison to the Movies. Maybe not perfect, but still sooooo much better than the movies :)
Well, even notwithstanding the casting (which to my knowledge was colourblind mostly - Grover’s actor who is Indian, auditioned for Percy originally), Rick Riordan isn’t the same man he was back then and so won’t just retell it beat for beat here.
33:29 It's not like a force push. If you do a rewatch, you will notice the water fountain spouts kinda grabbed Nancy and pulled her backwards.
I love Calvin getting more and more upset about poisonous/venomous. I hate it too.
They are kids but it woulda been funny for annabeth to keeo correcting them
they’re children
@@ryuhitsuya21 It definitely feels like something she'd do in the earlier books
@@ryuhitsuya21 haha i was expecting her to do it in that scene
wisdom
Athena was one of the twelve chief Olympian deities and the goddess associated with wisdom, craft, and warfare. In wars-where she was most commonly depicted-Athena embodied cold rationality, tactics, and strategy. Athena's cold logic stood in direct contrast to her brother Ares' rage, violence, and impulsiveness
Rick just needed a way to have children of Athena while keeping her a virgin goddess, so he made it so her children are just made from a thought. In the books, when Percy asks about this, Annabeth deflects by being like "do you really want to talk about the specifics of my birth", so Rick didn't have to explain himself lol
It also goes with Athena's birth as well, she was born out of a thought from Zeus
@@kauanandre2066 I'm not saying it wasn't clever or based in myth, I'm just saying Rick needed a way to make Annabeth a daughter of Athena, so he had to find away around the virgin goddess aspect
Athena is the goddess of war and wisdom
Yes. _Both_ Athena _and_ Ares are associated with war, but Athena is usually more about tactics since she is also the Goddess of Wisdom.
I know the author originally thought the arch was over the Mississippi, which is why they changed it to a water spout grabbing him, but it’s funny to me that Calvin was saying he was kinda confused bc he thought the same thing when you could clearly see grass below when he’s dangling from the bottom lol
Riordan could have just Googled the Arch and pictures.
Love Calvins persistent on venomous, and the show used poisonous
details are important
“I thought it was over water that was gonna be perfect” yeah so did Rick Riordan 😂😂
This episode was criminally short but it was soooo good, inlove the sequence of action and how it ended too.
About Percy and poseidon....i feel like he's mad because he wasnt there you know? Even if you can rationalize why he wasnt there thrres still the emotional aspect of it, how he grew 12 ywars without him
He didn’t know he could breathe till now underwater
So lets clarify something that was said in the beginning....because people making incorrect statements as if they are facts makes my eye twitch and because I have no life....Aaron is right, drowning is what happens through the inhalation of liquid (for this example). When you are underwater holding your breath...you do so until your unconscious, then your body automatically tries to breathe.....Water gets in your lungs and you drown. You will never see a case where someone "drowned" in water and their lungs are dry. Its actually not possible, under normal conditions, to die from holding your breath.
I was coming here to comment something like this as well 😂
Nothing at all against them, but never a bad thing to correct misinformation!
And if they did die from holding their breath that would be asphyxiation
Just to add to this, your body has a breathing reflex that will kick in as carbon dioxide increases in the body (this is why some people hyperventilate/breath quickly before freediving - this increases oxygen and decreases carbon dioxide in the body which allows you to trick your body into staying under water longer without this reflex kicking in), so you won't even be unconscious before you breathe in the water.
There IS something called dry drowning but even that is from water in the lungs. It is a situation where you inhale water but are rescued from drowning and don't realize you have water on the lungs. People can die on land hours after the event due to "dry drowning".
Calvin is wrong most of the time. I have no idea where he gets his info from, but it's a bad source.
I once saw someone comment how impressed they were with how confidently wrong Calvin is a lot of the time, no way to explain it better. It has to be at least twice a week, and Calvins occasional correct correction makes it so its not even like he's doing it as a gag to get more engagement in the comments@@user-gd3ot9mu1y
Ares: God of war like in aggression, pure force on combat and such.
Athena: Goddess of war in the strategic sense.
I’ve been to the arch and the steps are closed off and are only in case of emergency. Everyone has to take the little pods unless there is an emergency. Also the whole buffalo and Native American exhibit is under the arch.
There *is* technically a variant of Aphrodite in history who is a goddess of war, called Aphrodite Areia (Aphrodite the Warlike). It's one of her earliest portrayals, but it unfortunately fell out of favor the more Athens became powerful (Incidentally why they also liked to dunk on Ares, since both were predominantly worshipped in Sparta)
6:40 she wisdom, warfare (not war she’s the strategist) and architecture along with minor things like owl
Next episode gets so good! Loving the reactions!
Athena is the goddess of classical arts (including architecture, weaving, etc.) as well as Defensive Warfare (which is where she butts head with her half-brother Ares.
Even though it's called the Willis Tower now, I don't think I've heard anyone call it that yet. We still call it the Sears Tower
I had an ex bf. Who anytime someone called it the Sears tower he'd be like 'aCtUaLlY iTs tHe wiLIS tOwEr' it was incessant. I had no idea people talked about that tOwEr so much until he started correcting people all the time.
that sounds like the SkyDome in Toronto being renamed the Rogers Centre in 2005. It's been nearly 20 years, and while the press etc refer to it as the Rogers Centre, most people still refer to it as the SkyDome.
Up until this point in the show, I was pretty neutral towards Grover but he really starts to win me over this episode.
Last week, this became my favorite episode!
I love that they showed the Chihuahua because in the books it is a Chihuahua that grows into a Chimera in front of Percy's eyes and some humans. So when I saw the Chihuahua, I laughed so hard!
"I thought it was over water" Rick thought the same thing than Calvin. He thought the Mississippi River was under the Arch so in the book he made Percy literally "plunge" to his death. So he rectified his mistake here by making Percy "fall to his death" instead and Poseidon saving him. Percy is scared and doesn't trust his dad, which is also why he falls through the hole and struggles to accept himself just like the water nymph said.
Short episode (the runtime is all over the place) but love to see a longer discussion.
Gods do suck as being parents! The Chimera is young. The design is awesome. Almost identical to the description in the book "head of a lion, body of a goat, snake tail". Here we have body and head of a lion, goat horns, reptilian tail and if you pause at the right time you can see its hind legs have hooves.
Yes, Aaron is right. Based on what we are shown and told in the show so far, Athena is the Goddess of wisdom and battle strategy.
Same as Eric and Calvin. I'm afraid of heights so a couple feet and I'm freaking out and vertigo kicks in. Not fun!
Great reaction and discussion!
Aaron only noticing the trident in the series title now LOL
I'm completely new to this series and trying to understand how the 'the mist' works. when you say the dog grew into the chimera in front of Percy and some humans did the humans see the chimera? or do they just see a dog? or does it disappear? Or do they just never address it (which is fine)?
@@henrygreen2096 my memory is fuzzy but i believe some humans do see through the mist (edit: nearly forgot but percy's mom saw the minotaur so theres proof of that), so some may have seen the chimera. the rest of them will see a normal dog. the mist just hides/masks all the supernatural/magical stuff for most humans. they will not see monsters or magical items and stuff. they will instead see regular normal animals and common items.
like with mrs dodds in the first episode, the mist makes her seem like a normal human, while demigods will see her as a monster. basically it just makes everything seem ordinary
Exactly! But Sally knew Percy's father is a God, he told her about the magical world, that's why she saw the Minotaur.@@ChubuPeng
After that scene happens in the books, the cops ask the human witnesses what they saw and they respond a "huge fire-breathing Chihuahua".
Also -I don't know if the show is gonna mention this or not so spoilers- some humans are born with the ability to see through the mist.
me when Percy asked if the chimera was poisonous: *I bet Calvin’s gonna point out its venomous*
9:20
According to Grover last episode: no, that's bees.
I listened to a podcast interview with echidna's actress, and I think it's an example of how these showrunners are elevating the source material by an impressive amount.
book echidna felt pretty throwaway for being one of the most powerful monsters the trio meets, and even without transforming or anything, series echidna really sells her power and her role is so well-tied to the family themes.
the actress talked about how echidna in this episode is meant to contrast the godly parents; directly involving herself in her pup's development while the gods act distant to their children.. also love the arch being a temple to athena and how annabeth's 'punishment' proves medusa right in the end..
fun book fact; in the book, percy jumps off the arch and falls directly into the water- which was pointed out as being impossible.. when asked about it, rick riordan just admitted that he thought the arch was closer to the river and that it was a mistake😅 guess he got the chance to correct it here.
0:47 "To find the very pit of hell"
Weeelllll, not quite (cries in Mark of Athena)
The museum under the Arch is focused on Lewis and Clark expedition and the expansion west after the Louisiana Purchase.
Lmao Calvin thinking the arch is over the river is hilarious.
When I watched this episode, it never occurred to me until you guys said venomous, and immediately Percy said poisonous. I feel like that's something Annabeth would have corrected him on.
10:23 so did Rick 😂
Athena is sometimes consideres as a goddess of war related to strategic thinking, but also Aphrodite was considered the goddess of war for the spartans, that side of her isn't normaly portrayed
This the episode we was waiting for 😅
4:14 Omg you guys im so slow, i just realized Mother of monsters abbreviates to M.O.M 😭🤦🏾♂️
love this episode, thank you guys!~
I’m taking a class on Greek Mythology rn and I think it is interesting that Athena’s kids, like annabeth, have to prove themselves. Athena used to be a guide/mentor to young heroes even if they werent strong. There was a hero named Telemachus who was 20 when Athena took the form of Mentis and guided him to becoming a great hero
we're often harder on our own kids than on others'
Fun fact telemachus is Odysseus's son
@@ippokratismargiouklas2791 Yeah, he aas trying to live up to his dads standards but he was like 20 (which was war age) and he didnt do much. Thats why athena stepped in
This reminds me, I can't wait to see who ends up playing Telemachus in Epic: The Musical
33:38: He’s also not really accepted his dad as his own yet. He’s going to now because his dad recognized him
As someone who has visited the arch a few times, it looks like they filmed on location. That is pretty much what the entrance and surroundings look like and the museum at the bottom (last time I was there) was all about the Lewis and Clark expedition with talking animatronics and a stagecoach qnd a buffalo... and I think it's been more updated even since then.
Yes, they did film on location. People were spotting them with the filming crew in St. Louis 👍🏼
I've been to St. Louis too, it's about 4 hours from where I live (yet still in the same state LMFAO) but it's been over 10 years
Listen. I barely know janci. But her saying "another one" made me turn into rosa diaz with Arlo.
"I've only had janci for a day and a half, but if anything happened to her, I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself"
As someone who grew up in St Louis and has been to The Arch many times, it was a wild experience to see my city done justice. They definitely filmed this episode at the actual arch. I can actually recognize the displays that they show in The Arch Museum. (They haven't changed in decades.)
The explanation about the way in which Athena has children comes in a later book, but I'm glad the TV series put it here. Because I had been wondering how Annabeth could have one of the virgin goddesses for a mother (there's a paragraph about how Artemis had no children and so her cabin in camp was empty), and I kept worrying that the author was unaware of this basic fact (or had changed it). It was a relief to discover otherwise.
As a 33 year old man who's father left him at a very young age. I think it's super weird you all comment on how honoured Percy should be to have an absent father.
It is quite obviously a commentary on absent parents and just because they may give you life (or even power) doesn't mean they automatically deserve your respect, trust, or appreciation. That shit has to be earned and his friends earned it. His father is not his father, he is a man who dipped his wick in his mother and left. This is the second time this week (granted, I appreciate somethings are hugely filmed in advance) that Aaron has just stated something that is hugely weird and fundamentally wrong.
If your parent is a God, or someone with power, it doesn't give them the right to ignore you. That shit does damage to people. Sincerely, someone who has had damage done to them. lol
Goddess of War is Enyo - she's pretty cool "sacker of cities" and can be found out on the battlefield with Ares in Greek Mythology. Later she turned into the Roman Bellona.
Hades/The Underworld in not Hell. Tartaros/Greek Hell is only one part of the Underworld, the deepest part. It's named after the deity that created and embodies it, the Protogenoi (the First Born, the Primordial Greek gods) Tartaros.
Athena is the Goddess of Wisdom and Battle Strategy you're thinking of the Roman Goddess Bellona who shares the domain of War with Mars; also the lady talking to Percy in the water was a Naiad
Somebody has to got to tell these guys that the Underworld and Hell are very different.
The fact that someone thinks that Percy is wrong for saying that about his father makes me think you all had dads 😭(sorry if it's a wrong assumption tho) like it's pretty simple to understand his anger when he had a deadbeat father all his life LMAO (I don't have a father so I understand that part lol)
Always love a cool monster design!
Always, ill never forget it now 😂
not spoiler but Athena is also a Goddess of War, mostly the strategic side of war, while Ares represents the actual conflict/fighting part of war. They are the primary Patron Gods of War. We have to remember that Ancient Greece wasn't a unified single culture. it was just how we referred to a collection of City-states in the area we now know also as Greece. and Gods were normally more worshipped in an individual basis. people mostly prayed to local gods or gods of things they regularly interact with, blacksmiths would have prayed to Hephaestus more than any other gods. Athena was the Godess of Athens, but she would have been worshipped in numerous different cults in different ways, which is how we get the different personas of Gods.
The being under the water talking to Percy was Nereid, a water nymph.
Let’s go guys!
Athena is the goddess of wisdom and strategic warfare.
24:56 : In another version of this story, Zeus got fearful that the child of the tinaness Metis, his lover, would be a threat to him so he decided to eat her. In ancient Greece, the stomach/belly was the source of wisdom. Metis was the titaness of wisdom, so he put her where the source of his wisdom was.
Later, Zeus got a terrible headache and asked Poseidon for help. Poseidon opened Zeus head with an axe and out came Athena, in full armour.
The STL Arch is a fantastic place to find out you have claustrophobia and acrophobia for the first time.
Athens is goddess of war , wisdom, battle strategy and crafts/arts
It’s unfortunate they cut out so many foundational camp halfblood scenes.
I think I may be mistaken but here’s some context-
In the book when Percy goes around trying to figure out what he’s good at- he discovers that he has almost prodigious talent in sword fighting. He gets special training from the Luke the Hermes kid who is the camp’s best sword fighter. He learns several special moves including the switching move he pulls on Annabeth. The move makes a few appearances in the series. I don’t think this is how the arch scene plays in the books though
It’s not that serious. They can still figure out a way to show what he’s good at later.
@@devin6079didn't they show it with his battle with Clarisse
Ya'll should definitely visit the Arch. ❤
35:11: Zeus is thunderstorms and storms.
Poseidon is earthquakes and hurricanes
that dog looks more like a Miniature Pinscher rather than a pomeranian. and the Greek goddess of victory is Nike. yes, the shoe and clothes company is named after her.
When you're riding on the elevator at the St. Louis Arch it is like stair steps going up... rise and run.
2:05 Up until this episode I was so sure the voice of [CENSORED] is Mark Hamil... Now, not so much.
V8 energy drink, those are my favorite! I’m drinking on rn, strawberry lemonade!! Also love this show, great reactions!!
The action is realistic for a group of 12-year-olds, this is not arrow Eric
Lol that's not even an argument bad action is bad action. Lots of kids shows/movies have good action
The museum attached to the Arch is actually really good. Getting up to the Arch is also kind of crazy because those pods can't just go up like a normal elevator. As the pods ascend, pivot to the shape of the Arch. It's a weird experience.
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Sleeping on a train is better than on a plane. It isnt as loud and the motion is actually soothing. While it's in motion. The stops make things... complicated. For someone like me, who is a light sleeper, it means i wake up whenever there is a stop, but i was able to drop back off when moving.
Reaction as a whole is almost longer than the episode itself 💀
What!😂 if u passed out underwater your body would automatically try to breathe hence you’d breathe in water, if u held your breath on land you’d pass out and your body will automatically start to breathe but u wouldn’t die unless this happens in water 😂😂
Calvin The Wrong!
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WHY AM I JUST FINDING OUT YOUR REACTING TO PJO I FEEL SO DREADFUL. IMMA START TO WATCH YOUR REACTIONS IMMEDIATELY.
Enyo is also a Goddess of War often accompanying Ares in battle
Yo guys 🤚
Lol, Annabeth literally explained as you talked about it
Rick is sort of right about the no water in the lungs when someone drowns. You know how when someone does while holding something, their hand can lock around that object and it's very difficult to remove the object? It's kind of the same thing. There are some people whose throat remains closed up until their heart stops. That is called a dry drowning, however, it only happens in 7% to 10% of drownings. The majority of them have water in the lungs and are "wet drownings".
You could argue that Zeus was considerate in the Iliad since he was convinced to allow Priam to take his son’s body back and have their funerary rights.
Sleeping on a train is great.
I wish The Echidna, the Mother of all Monsters, had transformed like in the book. The Chimera transforming was still cool. But I wish Echidna also transformed. It would have been cooler.
9:52: I feel like ebony maw and echidna would make a good team hahah
ECHO REACTION WHEN HELLO??
Athena is the Goddess of War and is far superior to her male counterpart because she is a tactician.
It's like if you pit a street fighter against a trained martial artist.
But despite how smart she is petty as fuck!
Yup, which is why the greeks worshipped Athena so much. She was their everything. The romans kind of left her behind though and found another goddess of war to worship, Belona, since Athena (now Minerva)'s image was too tied to the greeks
@heyitsmira17 You know... we praise the Romans so much for their innovation, but when it came to gods, they just stole and renamed the Greek Gods.
@@mugenshiratori6825 most of what the romans had came from other cultures. But that's how they were innovative: the way they colonized others by incorporating elements of their culture is what made their impact last until now, even after their empire tanked
Im not sure thats completely accurate, most of what we know is from Athen's writing, and like even if you ignore the name of the city state, with how much they hated Sparta and valued wisdom, it's almost guaranteed that there's an incredible amount of bias in what writings we have, and Ares being inferior and a punching back wouldnt be universally recognized.
Good thing: apparently this is the shortest episode of the season
Bad thing: you feel it heavily and makes what could be a great episode just okay
They make up for it with episode 5 so I can’t really complain too much but damn. At least add 2-3 minutes at the end of this episode
Echo reaction when????
"Why is it Athena's?" they ask, WHILE ANNABETH EXPLAINS IT. Seriously, sometimes this is so annoying.
I like Aaron’s vasectomy shirt.
React on Bahubali movie ❤❤
Calvin continues to be wrong about the random "facts " he spits out. Aaron is completely right about drowning. I'd say Calvin is wrong about 70% of the time.
Man the ancient Greeks had like 5 different gods of war they really worshiped war so yeah athena and ares are both gods of war but athena is like the smart one and ares is the strong one