@@dsalazarm I have my Habermas book on my table here, so will just re-read it. Glad I kept all my philosophy books; when the grid really goes down, I have something to do ~~ ponder.
Your (contemporary as of 3 years ago) videos got me through so many papers in my undergrad. Still, now I am working on my Master's in media studies so the theorists are getting more and more complex and I find myself back where I started, with this channel! You do such a great job explaining things and to see you have a Habermas video just saved my ass.
I hade completely misunderstood the concept of refeudalization. This made things alot clearer but also messy for the things i'm doing Thanks for a good explanation
This is really well explained; love it! I do have one suggestion: would be great if you could leave a link or two to scholary works about this subject (would be a great help to students)
5:32 "A good example of this is the way mass media operates in a single, vertical direction. There's no interaction between readers and editors. The mediam is simply consumed."
The background music only serves as a distraction. You should re-upload these videos without the music. Great content, you got me hooked to your channel.
I agree....and some of the background graphics (especially the videos that are rolling while displayed) DISTRACT ATTENTION from the simultaneous voice-over narration. This IS the current (and visually/aurally appealing) style of such 5-10 minute mini-lectures, but (apropos the topic of this particular video) some elements may fail to respect the need of viewers to concentrate on the verbal messages that are being delivered. It is an error to use "the language of film" (images, particularly moving images, rapid cuts from one image to another, complex images, etc.) when the use of these techniques masks the essential message and degrades the effectiveness of the video itself. Does the creator desire his/her audience to come away with as complete and accurate an understanding, and retention, of the intended message? Or does s/he wish viewers to be pleased by the visual and aural presentation, to the exclusion of real understanding? These are worthy of consideration. This is a very appealing video, and I appreciate it on its own merits--but I come away thinking that (were I to edit it and make revisions) I would tone down the volume of the background music, and assess whether the accompanying images contribute to, or perhaps detract from, my essential aim.
I don't think the music itself is a problem, It's more a matter of volumes; soothing music can aid concentration if kept in the background. In this video, however, the volume for the music is slightly too high
No one has said this out right, but language is the ultimate technology. Therefore as the video points out, in the evolution of the society the power that the printing publisher took was very notable. Perhaps its a platonic divide between the writer (an individual) and the reader (the mass) becomes even more significant. And there is a complex socio-typography that influences throughout the circulation of language. For example, usually the bible will have a very bible like typography. Language is never a medium free technology. So there will be a web like communication of language. While the bible and classical language will be extended in more organic fashion. Present language will have complexity that will be perhaps called socio-textuality. This video (Habermas) has captured a historical progression. But then we could always slice this world in the way most interesting.
Well, I’m not impressed with Habermas’ overall theory but he makes some good points. - A very messy situation of verticals and horizontals of various type groups....I can say that my father was a newspaper editor from the thirties to the mid sixties and dealing with various autocratic publishers was a constant source of anger and frustration for him leading to his self-destruction.
Thank you so much for this! Please, please, please make more Habermas videos, e.g. about The Philosophical Discourse of Modernity and The Theory of Communicative Reason. I think Habermas is needed more than ever in this day and age.
Very nice and reflective video about his thoughts regarding the Public Sphere. The background music is maybe a bit too loud compared to the voice over, I found it a bit distracting, trying to focus on the narrative. Regardless, you have a new sub! great content :)
Nice comment thread but I had to stop reading through it because of all of the complaints about the background music in the video, please rewrite your comments minus the complaints.
The problem is with the speed at which these new forms of communications pop up and how the traditional academic only have methods that take years and years to develop. They will always lag behind the cultural manipulation of the algorithm tampering of corporate interests.
Well, it is argued that the studies of media can only be done with a historical perspective for context, since it is hard to "see the forest" as we live it in the present. So, maybe this is not really a problem?
Yes if you want to be entertained, that is entirely true. Reading advice where this issue is specifically tackled: Neil Postman, Amusing ourselves to death (1985). Btw I believe Neil Postman follows after Habermas in many of his own points, so by reading this book you'll hit two birds with one stone: it will answer your question AND help you deepen your knowledge of the topic of this video.
@@PappyMandarine I struggle following your train of thought on the second part. I find the first part arguable, as I used this video to recap Habermas' theories for an academic aspect, since I wasn't too familiar with his theories.
What the video doesn't do is begin to explain why there is a perceived need to create a theory of communicative action. While trying to hold on to a concept of social transformation for the better inherited from Marx, it was obvious to western Marxists that dialectical materialism carries a vast amount of philosophical baggage unjustified by Marx's own materialist methodology. Key is the concepts "better", "justice", "the good", "happiness". That there is some shared meaning to these terms is taken for granted by Marx, but from a modern philosophical perspective they rely on Hegel's essentially theological worldview. To ascribe meaning or validity to these essential social concepts, Habermas envisages an "ideal speech situation" which assumes value concepts. The problem is that Habermas' work never escapes from the Kantian formalism of his starting point, so the leap from the formal criteria to meaning never really happens. You can see the same issue in the concept of the public sphere. Habermas retells the story of the emergence of mass politics, but the "sphere" is a formal concept which has no purchase on the content of what is being said. Again there is no successful link between form and content. The importance of mass politics is also in what is being said and not just the non-coercion of the context of the speech. But materialism cannot get from the form to the content without violating its formalist rules. In his later life Habermas spoke with Pope Benedict about his concern with collapsing values and the collapse of the family. But the question is whether you can defend the "traditional family" or any family norms from a materialist perspective.
Public discourse is only applicable to thinking or rational people. Other opinionated people idolizes their own opinions thus unable to engage in relevant discourse. Openess and widening ones horison could be helpful in public discourses.
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Thank you for this valuable commentary. (Background music super distracting)
So distracting
Sadly also second point is true. The audio mix is not quite right, since the music is too loud. :(
@@whoeverofhowevermany Very hard to discern the words of the narrator because of loud background.
It’s easy to loud and thrumming i agree
@@dsalazarm I have my Habermas book on my table here, so will just re-read it. Glad I kept all my philosophy books; when the grid really goes down, I have something to do ~~ ponder.
Your (contemporary as of 3 years ago) videos got me through so many papers in my undergrad. Still, now I am working on my Master's in media studies so the theorists are getting more and more complex and I find myself back where I started, with this channel! You do such a great job explaining things and to see you have a Habermas video just saved my ass.
Love the music from Habermas' album 'Live At the Public Sphere'!
I hade completely misunderstood the concept of refeudalization. This made things alot clearer but also messy for the things i'm doing
Thanks for a good explanation
This is really well explained; love it! I do have one suggestion: would be great if you could leave a link or two to scholary works about this subject (would be a great help to students)
Usually do in the description but must have forgotten for this one, unfortunately!
5:32 "A good example of this is the way mass media operates in a single, vertical direction. There's no interaction between readers and editors. The mediam is simply consumed."
I had to do a project on Habermas and this video was extremely informative
Sooo informative, thank you for this! Really helps me with my PHIL 3500 course on ideology!!
ja ja, credit points, credit points... that's all you want
This was awesome. Thank you so much for this! Please keep this up.
The background music only serves as a distraction. You should re-upload these videos without the music. Great content, you got me hooked to your channel.
I agree....and some of the background graphics (especially the videos that are rolling while displayed) DISTRACT ATTENTION from the simultaneous voice-over narration. This IS the current (and visually/aurally appealing) style of such 5-10 minute mini-lectures, but (apropos the topic of this particular video) some elements may fail to respect the need of viewers to concentrate on the verbal messages that are being delivered. It is an error to use "the language of film" (images, particularly moving images, rapid cuts from one image to another, complex images, etc.) when the use of these techniques masks the essential message and degrades the effectiveness of the video itself. Does the creator desire his/her audience to come away with as complete and accurate an understanding, and retention, of the intended message? Or does s/he wish viewers to be pleased by the visual and aural presentation, to the exclusion of real understanding? These are worthy of consideration. This is a very appealing video, and I appreciate it on its own merits--but I come away thinking that (were I to edit it and make revisions) I would tone down the volume of the background music, and assess whether the accompanying images contribute to, or perhaps detract from, my essential aim.
This is good advice - I will take it onboard. Thanks
Just tried to listen, but couldn't. Are you considering to offer this without music? It is a pity.
I don't think the music itself is a problem, It's more a matter of volumes; soothing music can aid concentration if kept in the background. In this video, however, the volume for the music is slightly too high
Let me pile on. The music is a distraction in its current form. But thanks for the talk.
Great video. I love me some Habermas.
Thank you! Me too
I'm impressed with the quality of this video. It's a great introduction to the subject.
No one has said this out right, but language is the ultimate technology. Therefore as the video points out, in the evolution of the society the power that the printing publisher took was very notable. Perhaps its a platonic divide between the writer (an individual) and the reader (the mass) becomes even more significant. And there is a complex socio-typography that influences throughout the circulation of language. For example, usually the bible will have a very bible like typography. Language is never a medium free technology. So there will be a web like communication of language. While the bible and classical language will be extended in more organic fashion. Present language will have complexity that will be perhaps called socio-textuality. This video (Habermas) has captured a historical progression. But then we could always slice this world in the way most interesting.
pretty cool dude. A great weave of theory and history without overburdening the other.
I don't mind the music... Great content.
This is a great video. Thankyou very much!
Great content and pace, thanks!
Well, I’m not impressed with Habermas’ overall theory but he makes some good points. - A very messy situation of verticals and horizontals of various type groups....I can say that my father was a newspaper editor from the thirties to the mid sixties and dealing with various autocratic publishers was a constant source of anger and frustration for him leading to his self-destruction.
I’m about to finish an essay on this, it’s been really interesting to learn about.
Thank you so much for this! Please, please, please make more Habermas videos, e.g. about The Philosophical Discourse of Modernity and The Theory of Communicative Reason. I think Habermas is needed more than ever in this day and age.
I absolutely agree
You should do a video on John Dewey and William James. There is almost nothing on RUclips done on them in a sophisticated way.
As an ADHD folk who can't study from notes, thank you so much!
Thank you for creating this video. It has helped me lots.
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Clear and concise
This is very good, nice depth of information in short time frame
great help in understanding Habermas. Thanks
Very helpful video!
cool music, fits Habermas totally
How do you pronounce 'sphere' Man.
severely
"Sah-Fear" apparently
very helpful and insightful thank you!
I like the background music. As long as it's not loud.
Very nice and reflective video about his thoughts regarding the Public Sphere. The background music is maybe a bit too loud compared to the voice over, I found it a bit distracting, trying to focus on the narrative. Regardless, you have a new sub! great content :)
wow this brings to mind also mcluhan
Your content is good, keep it up.
Thanks!
Please, whats the image at 4:47 ?
Great video!
Very helpful overview for my undergrads :}
I liked your video! However, where can i find online the book "The Permanent Campaign: New Media, New Politics"?
Thank you
He is still alive, you know. :P
the music...why
great vid dude!!!
great comment dude!
really great
This is veryy relevant right now.
The most relevant philosophy of the modern age.
He is GREAT!
Wish you could turn off the background music...
POV: your chillin with Audrey in the public sphere of the Twin Peaks coffee shop
Nice comment thread but I had to stop reading through it because of all of the complaints about the background music in the video, please rewrite your comments minus the complaints.
The problem is with the speed at which these new forms of communications pop up and how the traditional academic only have methods that take years and years to develop. They will always lag behind the cultural manipulation of the algorithm tampering of corporate interests.
Well, it is argued that the studies of media can only be done with a historical perspective for context, since it is hard to "see the forest" as we live it in the present.
So, maybe this is not really a problem?
Sadly, the music is way too loud. It is disturbing :(
What the hell is the issue with the background music in the comments?
1. it isn't distracting
2. it makes the video more smooth
Yes if you want to be entertained, that is entirely true. Reading advice where this issue is specifically tackled: Neil Postman, Amusing ourselves to death (1985). Btw I believe Neil Postman follows after Habermas in many of his own points, so by reading this book you'll hit two birds with one stone: it will answer your question AND help you deepen your knowledge of the topic of this video.
@@PappyMandarine I struggle following your train of thought on the second part. I find the first part arguable, as I used this video to recap Habermas' theories for an academic aspect, since I wasn't too familiar with his theories.
background music interferes with the speaker. Can u lower it or better remove it?
Clear and succinct. Thank you.
Please keep volume of music in background very low or don't keep it. It is disturbing and makes it difficult to hear
Can we at least...turn down the music...?
Very nice :)
the audio is too loud in the mix.
b. free everything you hear is audio. Derp
Good video but the music is a big distraction.
what's with that music?
removing that would be of great help
The jazz music tho
@5.42 ooohhhh someone's got the big brainz
No bg music please!
the public sefear?
I like the music I am tired of people bitching about it.
Background music is too disturbing and therefore redundant.
subject : good, but the intonation of a voice is very important in a video like this....
Hey dude... the presentation is quite good but the bgm is annoying....
the background music is so annoying and distracting
Tam dixit quam voluit. Interpretazione dichiarativa. Art. 1364 e 1367 cc. vigente.
cfr. Francis Varvello.
Si, antenato del corrispondente RAI da Londra.
Eis Megaloprepeian, parola di Aristotele!!!
4:28 ... Wut?
What the video doesn't do is begin to explain why there is a perceived need to create a theory of communicative action. While trying to hold on to a concept of social transformation for the better inherited from Marx, it was obvious to western Marxists that dialectical materialism carries a vast amount of philosophical baggage unjustified by Marx's own materialist methodology. Key is the concepts "better", "justice", "the good", "happiness". That there is some shared meaning to these terms is taken for granted by Marx, but from a modern philosophical perspective they rely on Hegel's essentially theological worldview. To ascribe meaning or validity to these essential social concepts, Habermas envisages an "ideal speech situation" which assumes value concepts. The problem is that Habermas' work never escapes from the Kantian formalism of his starting point, so the leap from the formal criteria to meaning never really happens.
You can see the same issue in the concept of the public sphere. Habermas retells the story of the emergence of mass politics, but the "sphere" is a formal concept which has no purchase on the content of what is being said. Again there is no successful link between form and content. The importance of mass politics is also in what is being said and not just the non-coercion of the context of the speech. But materialism cannot get from the form to the content without violating its formalist rules.
In his later life Habermas spoke with Pope Benedict about his concern with collapsing values and the collapse of the family. But the question is whether you can defend the "traditional family" or any family norms from a materialist perspective.
Public discourse is only applicable to thinking or rational people. Other opinionated people idolizes their own opinions thus unable to engage in relevant discourse. Openess and widening ones horison could be helpful in public discourses.
if only you were more self-aware.
Tone down the BGM.
Voiceover inaudible over high pitched BGM. watched a minute, had to stop. Pity.
Dusseldorf
suhf-fear
The narrator makes me feel drowzyyy! "School of life" has a good energetic narrator but limited content ...
Suhfea
Stupid music made me stop listening. Can't stand that crap in videos. Pity as this had potential.
the music sucks
Please remove the bloody music
Why this idiotic music?
Get rid of the f*cking music
The way you pronounce sphere is beyond triggering. What is wrong with you?
SkittleBuk1 probably time to have your lithium level checked...
@@godwantsplastic ?
please please stop with the music, its almost the same volume of the talking and very hard to focus :(