fixing the WORLD'S WORST lowering kit THE RIGHT WAY
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2022
- a MAJOR PROBLEM with the Tacoma needed to be taken care of before it gets shipped away. That's right, we're saying goodbye to the tacoma, but it hasn't been sold. You will see it again, just in another place and time. There were a few botched parts of the suspension install that someone did before I got my hands on this mini truck, and the problems had to be corrected. I couldn't stand to look at the truck, so it was time to get out the welder and fix the problem. Also in this video, we go on our first test drive of the 4l80e swapped AWD copo truck, and there are a few tweaks we'll have to make there as well. But overall, we took care of both problems and got the tacoma shipped off in time.
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8.1 in the Taco! 🤣 that would be insane!
But rear placement of engine, in the bed!
This guy... THIS GUY HAS THE RIGHT IDEA!
Ive always liked these little single cab tacomas.
Glad you've become attached to the Tacoma, a regular cab, 4 cyl, 5-spd Toyota mini truck is a keeper.
Definitely do the 4-link and coilovers. The 1UR or 2UR swap would be fun to watch. Everyone does an LS or 5.0 swap. This would be different.
22R would be a sweet build for the Taco, possibly add some boost! Hard to beat a turbo K-swap, if looking for an engine
GM Atlas
Nothing Beats a ls swap in terms of price, Any v8 in that tiny truck gonna be insane.
You’re videos keep getting better and better. Good content, good tech, good delivery. Keep going. Good luck
I appreciate that!
Lmao. LT at the end you were so about to say "next time on truck tech" oh yes you were lmao.
lol... 5 years of habit can be hard to break
Lol I'm sure and I did love the show but, I like what you're doing now better so, steady as she goes man.
Glad you factored in the pinion angle. I bought a kit for my truck that said to get max drop you remove the shims under the leaf. the shims had the angle built in. It ruined my rear end in no time.
Keep the Tacoma for sure I would love to see your iteration of it.
Howdy LT, all GM calibrations are configured to unlock the converter with a throttle lift or brake circuit sense. It becomes more apparent with higher stall speed converters and a stronger TCC. Also, the weak point in a 4L80-E is the overdrive roller clutch. This component was redesigned for 2001 moving forward with smaller rollers that are now each captive in alignment foots to prevent skewing which is apparently a problem that affected some units although I've never seen it happen personally. The smaller rollers unfortunately don't hold the torque the old larger pre-2001 ones did, so due to that component, having the TCC unlocked during the 3-4 should help it hold up.
I like the raise in the back. Looks great.
Minitrucks have always been special to me. I bought my 2000 S10 brand new and still own it today. 4" drop all around, 17x8 wheels, stereo system etc. I just love it! Hopefully in the future I can drop a 5.3 in it. Funny you mention seeing an Impala SS because I just picked up a 1995 Impala SS. It needs some TLC and paint but it is a solid car and the interior isn't trashed like most out there.
That is awesome!
I had an s 10 with zq8 and a Colorado with zq8. Love to get a new Colorado withzq8 and turbo 4 from my Sierra. Think it would be more fun and pretty fuel efficient. For a truck
I’m the new owner of the Tacoma! Funny to see this video because I was not expecting that lol
That last remark confirms LT is a motor head. 😂😏👍
guilty!
Makes me miss my old 98 Tacoma. Went from stock to a static drop, to bagged on 18’s
Tacoma needs a GM Atlus straight 6.
Any of the Updated Atlas would be good.
A little porting and chamber work and they make really good power
This would be pretty cool
A 5.3 would be cool in my humble opinion… I can go pound sand though if you’re against that lol. Had a 2003 Tacoma lowered and it was a beast on curvy mountain roads.. love the show!!
Really great difference looks a ton better
For the converter to stay locked when you let off the gas you can adjust the minimum throttle release low and high speed tps under trans , TQ converter, apply/release. And for the converter staying locked during the shift you have to have shift lock enabled under TQ converter general tab
Nevermind I seen in your tune you already have that enabled
Also maybe a small engine awd combo would suit the Tacoma? Sounds fun to have a fantastic 60ft time. Maybe a subaru STI motor and drive train in that. Or maybe a Honda k20 and awd drive train? Two super cool choices. Great channel..
I kinda like the idea of a wrx/sti motor in it. Possibly AWD, but even RWD would be cool!
I put the bell tech 5978 leafs on right before you bought it! Technically it's supposed to be lowered 6" after your mods, I don't think they lowered the truck 3" in reality.
The 5" blocks were also there so I can air the suspension all the way up and have it level with some engines/fab material in the bed vs level at lower air PSI in those air shocks
This sounds weird coming from a guy to a guy, but dude! Keep the longer hair! It actually makes you look younger. The shorter hair makes you look like an old guy trying to look young. IDK why but it just does. 😂
Keep up the great work! I love your videos.
That truck is screaming for a Lexus LS V8 drivetrain. Now I want a little blue truck too!
I can relook at my tune when I get home this evening and tell you which setting it was to keep the converter locked when it shows 0% throttle. It was bothering me locking and unlocking with the cruise set going down the highway so I fixed mine
I'd be curious to hear what you did to change that
Please, need this info
Under the transmission tab, go to torque converter tab, then apply/release and adjust the minimum throttle release parameters. You will need to fine tune your speed release and apply as well so it doesn't pull the engine down at slower speeds with the tc locked
That should work on the gen 3, my gen 4 has an actual minimum tps enable and disable option
Go ahead LT I know you just want to build that TACOMA 👍
Please LT do NOT put the big block in the COPO truck leave that one ls u already have a big block to play with. I did the brake conversion on my 03 Silverado this weekend used 14 Silverado 1500 parts and man what a difference it made in stopping power thanks for the content 2jz on the Toyota or an L33 5.3 there still pretty cheap and easy to get if you want an aluminum LS.
All 4l80e transmissions unlock the converter on deceleration so the engine can idle. I assume it’s for better fuel economy. It’s hardly noticeable in a heavy duty truck with stock exhaust. But it’s incredibly annoying in a lighter vehicle with exhaust. Also if your running a larger throttle body it’ll get annoying because it doesn’t take as much throttle angle to maintain a certain speed. There is a min tps unlock parameter in hptuners that allows you to set when it’ll unlock based on tps. I use the bluecat transmission tool and it makes setting up shift points and lockup fairly easy.
i set my triple to lock up in third around 120-130mph in third with tow haul mode. its a setting for the lockup during shifts. transmission tab> torque converter> general > shift lock disable or enable.
My 6l80 does the same weird torque converter lock up in 4th. Even after tuning, and a ZL1 6l90 converter, it still does it.
Minimum throttle release in the apply and release table is for lock when releasing the throttle
Once the COPO gets the bigger motor, put that 4.8 in there. Upgrade the brakes all the way around because every Tacoma I have driven from generation had horrible brakes. 4 link and coilovers would take a bunch of the roughness out of the ride so yes!
First gen facelift owner here. 2001 year model base with manual trans has PLENTY of brakes, I've moved over to 225/45/17 Lexani tires on Fauxbra SVT wheels and I stop reeaalllyy well. You're only as good as your tires are, not your brakes, but it really helps when your truck weighs like 2600 pounds lol
Show us more of those fab skills with diy defuser, spoiler, body kit, ect.
I was kind of hoping you were shipping it to Florida to have your own vehicle at the Freedom Factory at all times 🤣
Lol… that would be a fun place to send it
Like seeing it on the channel👍🏼
Put a heartbeat in it. Have a rocket Oma.😁👍
You sure don't get to see many of those SS's anymore. Fastest couch I've ever experienced!
Ok a 8.1 Tacoma would be absolutely insane and I would love to see that and it would be a lot more cost friendly considering the spare 8.1 from ugly truck but I would also really enjoy seeing a 1UZ build that does a little bit of drifting and drag racing.
I love that minitruck
I wanted a 6bt in the taco but the 8.1 is a fair compromise. Build it and do a giveaway? Best thing you could do for your channel. You'll make it to 100k this year buddy!
Not a bad idea!
I would be curious about the lockup under decel as well. Doesn't bother me but always thought it weird as well on my 4l80. Mines a towing application though.
You kinda crack me up complaining about the firm shifts. You want a fast hard shift otherwise you're just wearing clutches and raising temps. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work
Actually what you want is a manual transmission.
Because otherwise it's not elite.
@@TravisFabel I have three automatic vehicles and two manual vehicles. Got to have a little variety. Oddly I prefer manual transmission in traffic. Especially if it's a sports car.
I like how the wheels look
The 4 link and coilovers would go well with a V8 NA build...we have seen you build with boost, maybe show how much power you can pull without boost? That little bit of extra tire looks great!
Im wondering if the lockup from 3rd to 4th then it unlocks is where the vehicle speed for lockup in 4th is set. Not sure ive never really messed with tuning programs other than TunerPro.
Man I love that Tocoma I have a 91s10 now I’m thinking of selling the s10 and getting a Tocoma I have always wanted one..
Put the 4.8 LSA in the Taco. Gale Banks duramax crate motor in the COPO truck.
you can defiantly leave the converter locked on the 2008 e38 t42 computer (silverado 80e swap). id have to check what i did in my tune.
Awesome truck! Do a 1UZFE swap with a manual.
For your converter unlocking issue: Trans>torque converter>apply/release
Under minimum throttle release, change high speed TPS Lo and High Speed TPS High both to 0%. Had this same issue on an 04 P59 with 4l80 segment swap. Stays locked on decel when cruising.
Stock was 2% Lo and 4% High. Weird glitch. I spent a while looking through forums.
somebody changed the title of the video, nice :)
Glen auto performance makes some very nice trans cooler lines with 6an fittings
8.1 swap the Tacoma with fully adjustable 4 link in the rear some extra bracing in the chassis and tub the bed to fit some drag slicks out back.
I could be wrong but I believe the TCC unlock with 0 pedal problem is under Torque Converter/Apply Release/Min Throttle Release. Set TPS fields to 0% and VSS to 256. ...Obligatory try at your own risk.
I'd put an aluminum block LS (LS3 maybe?) in the Tacoma and keep it NA built for high rpm and swap in a T56 or your choice of 6 speed. Keep the light weight theme going with it and gut it and make it a road course machine.
Have you ever considered mounting the trans cooler under the bed somewhere, maybe behind the rear axle? Then you could put an auxiliary fan on it and not have to worry about routing the lines past any heat sources.
I think it would be pretty awesome to see a built 5.7 from a Tundra in it.
Lean on it, let’s goooooo!
Do it in stages try taking the rad cooler out of the loop and retest before you start changing other things like the blower cooler the an lines would be a good idea or some sleeves for the hard lines
Honestly, if you can’t leave it as “the one i don’t mess with” so you always have a functioning parts go getter, then sell it to me, because I need one badly.
I will sell you a 4 cylinder extended cab S10.
Would the Taco have been shipped to a place such as a new work shop since a new work shop would be like free parking until decisions are made on the trucks fate?
What's in the fridge???? This is good, dare I say " Great " content!!!
PAT G. in victoria texas tuned my 02 HD, he has my converter staying locked when i let off the gas
also, the 3/4 converter lock unlock is probably due to your speed your commanding lockup at try 43-44mph. my truck was doing the same thing.
It looks much better.
The TCC lock up may unlock during DFCO. A throttle pedal module might let you set a minimum throttle percentage so the BCM, TCM, and/or ECM think the throttle still has a bit of "tip-in", as if your foot is holding it just barely above idle. Without it going to full idle, DFCO may not engage, which could be unlocking the TCC.
My converter in my 07 Classic does the exact same thing. Its a 4l70 with 3.23 gears and its like the converter is hunting, in high gear it can't decide if it wants to lock or not, its annoying.
I would drop in a 2uz-fe motor in it and add a little boost. Everyone is doing ls swaps.
You can get a low gear gear set for the 4L80E. They make a 1 and 2 gear set. 3.00 1.50 if I remember correctly.
Build it!! Please help me figure out how to LS swap mine with your guidance. Do a budget drift rig/auto cross
Have you considered tilting the top of the radiator back?
I still say 5VZ v6 in the Taco. That would be clean and fun.
Sb 350, and C notch the frame. Fill the bed with speakers and amps. 👍
Hey brother I had a question where did you get the 5” drop block ?
Rear engined supercharged wheelie machine! Come on let’s go!
Keep and build.
I think a cammed LV3 4.3 v6 would be a perfect swap for the taco
turbo'd
@@veronly2 even na with a cam the lv3 can kick 350hp out
Thats more than enough to be really fun
Then supercharge it for the full effect
For the Tacoma do a sbf nitrous set up. And keep the leafs and do some caltracs and an 8.8 rear
2JZ Tacoma with a six speed would be cool, by the time you put the 2JZ turbo fit and six speed what would the weight be? Maybe an all aluminum 4 cylinder turbo on methanol would be lighter?
Time to test that 4l80e out
Yup. I’ll get a few more miles on it and see what it can hold
On the 4l80,is there a way to lock the clutch on every gear to essentially make an 8 speed? I'm not a transmission guy so curious
Min throttle release. It drove me nuts when I did the 4L80 swap until I figured it out.
I like the 4.8 lsa swap an 8.1in the stepside
I think a 1JZ or possibly 2JZ would be awesome in the taco, but if you really want a lightweight sport truck you could do a 3S, or even a 2ZZ and turbo it. The 2ZZ revs to about 8200 RPM, it comes factory with forged rods, and it’s an aluminum block, so it should be lighter than just about anything else on the market.
I’d encourage you to do a 4BT swap with TKX trans and 3.05 gears. Won’t be the fastest, but it would be a ton of fun to drive and would cruise wonderfully. Should be able to get high 30’s, maybe 40mpg.
4bt and trans that goes with it is 1/4 the weight of the truck. A 6speed Camaro drivetrain could knock down 25 on the highway, weigh less so it handles better, and 2x the power.
I think a rev-happy V6 would be great for this truck. Nothing with too much torque to just blow the tires away. 300-350hp in this lightweight would be so much fun!!
Would of liked to see a comparison of before and after e.t. L.T.
yes
Keep it! Yes 4 link and lets see how low buck you can manual 1jz swap it. Or 1uz!!!!!!! 😲
My LS3 swapped Miata with full accessories/interior was 2550 with a 1/2 tank of fuel
I've got a premo 98 f-150 lariat 5.4, short wheelbase, step-side, white grey leather that I plan to build but it only has 180K and these are known for lasting 300K++ miles. So not sure I want to do it.
I've thought about buying a Toyota truck like yours and building it, so I would be very interested in seeing the little truck built. I knew the weight of the little trucks and know that 400-500 wheel horsepower would make a 2600 lb. scream.
Way better!
4g63t swap it. You saw what it did with the Mitsubishi Mighty Max you raced. And they're STUPID easy to get like 800-900hp out of. And ridiculously reliable.
Since the lowering blocks were angled to correct pinion angle, wouldn't shortening the blocks change the pinion angle and also change the angle that the block has built in?
This thing would be a beast with a turbo k24
3sgte would be great. And there's a company that makes the bell housing conversion and you can use a 3sgte clutch. 👌🏾👌🏾
Couldn't the converter lock up parameter be changed in the TPS? Example: Transmission/Torque Converter/ Apply-Release/Minimum Throttle Release (HP Tuners)
You officially need a name for your channel as you saw at the end of the video..
my 6l80 in my v6 reg cab short bed 2wd Silverado runs196 degrees commuting to work. Thats with the thermostat bypass installed
My fwd 01 Audi A4 without a sunroof and with me and my subs and amps weighs in at 3280lbs. And it didn't take much to make that a fun car. It would be wild if it was almost 700lbs lighter!
You could go 1jz with a turbo (much cheaper than the 2j) if u want to keep it as light as possible u could put a rotary in it. Or go crazy and put the 8.1 in her. Maby with some 3.33 gear to tone down the tq
Rotory isn't light at all man. I've had 2 lt1 swapped rx7 turbo 2s and they were 50 pounds light with that iron block aluminum headed v8 over the rotory drivetrain