I agree with this. My parents owned and operated a mobile home park during the 1960s and 1970s. There were ones known to be well built (Marlette, Vindale, New Moon, Windsor) and ones known for being built poorly (Brookwood). And like an automobile manufacturer, most companies offered a budget, middle and top of the line models.
@@KerryTarnow My neighbor in North Carolina has a New Moon. She told me one time the model year, but I only remember that is between 1970 and 1973. It is still in great shape.
@@KerryTarnow I know that Vindale went out of business some time in the 1980s or possibly 1990s. Not sure about the others. Maybe they were bought out by other companies. I know that Marlette was known for their beautiful wood cabinets. My family lived in a 1965 Vindale. It was well made and featured 1 and a half baths, a tip out living room, built in china closets, a pantry and a GE refrigerator, dishwasher and disposal. It also came with a Chateau by magic chef cook top and eye level oven. Furniture also was included that lasted for years. My dad said it was top of the line for the time.
@@KerryTarnow Windsor went out of business, due to poor mgmt by Zimmer homes...Windsor was doing well, but ceo of Zimmer was trying to many other business ventures, and closed them down
I love these videos. We are a year to year and a half out from selling our house and moving out to the middle of no where down a five mile gravel road. I am a over planner and don’t want to wait till the time to move and not get what we can afford, we’re 60 years old and I don’t want a mortgage. Thank you for the sound advice, I am learning so much. God Bless.
I have already purchased and lived in 14 stick built homes. We are in our 70's and still have a mortgage. Today if we want to we could sell our stick built home and pay cash from the sale to purchased a manufacture home free and clear with no mortgage. The only exception is the land it sits on. Either you rent the space in a mobile park for $300-$1000 per month base on amenities or you buy your own land that allows mobile homes. If your mobile home doesn't increase in value at lease your land will increase in value. Leasing a t lot is forever until you sell but owning your own land is nice and you will have more space around your MH. A one arcre lot could cost you $10k or $150k depending the area. but your payment would be a lot less than paying a lease lot. The biggest thing especially where I am in Arizona that a stick built home comparison for exactly floor plan, the Stick built could be $400,000 and the same floor plan in a MH would be $100,000. I could cut my budget almost in half going with a MH. The only big CON is the MH will not increase in value as with a stick built home.
Your videos are so helpful! Full of education, resources, and a positive discussion on manufactured homes, I'm so happy to have found your channel! My fiance and I live in the states (just 30 mins south of the Canadian border in NYS). We were able to "rent to own" our current manufactured home and have fully paid it off, but to be honest it's in rough shape and pretty much worthless. We are currently saving our money and looking to buy a new manufactured home next year. I will keep looking to your channel for great information as we move ahead in the buying process, thank you so much 🏡💌
Another factor that gets overlooked is the company & crew that sets the home. You can have the best manufacured home in the world but if it isn't properly set or they cut corners, you will have problems...
@@CoCoFantastique Sure you can ask the sales person and they will say they have the best crew in the world. I think the best way to find out how good the setup and finish crew is is by talking to past customers to get the real truth. It's like going to the hair salon to get your hair cut. You find a person that cuts your hair to your satisfaction but they leave and you try another hair stylist and they are not good but work for the same company. So you need to talk to recent new customers that have just bought their MH and have moved in and have desalts with warranty work.
Hi Kerry, I’m from California and current starting educated myself the way you explain sounds so easy and My mind already blowing away. I have been watching videos to get familiar with permites, HOA, surveys is so much to learn. I’m already exhausted but thanks to your videos the idea of have a house is getting more and more real
I dislike how most MH parks have narrow lots wherein the units go in the long way. The plain-end side becomes the front-facing side but the fancy front door ends up facing the neighbor’s unit.
I got my brand new single wide Manufactured home as part of a land home package in 2019 in texas. It costs about $41,000 and the land was $40,000. The land already had septic installed all they had to do is the clear the rest of the trees for the house, place the base for the house , the driveway, hook Up the water and place and hook up the utility pole. All included in the 41,000 price. The land was a separate loan through the bank. The interest rate for the land was crazy if I would of done it through their bank I would of paid almost $100,000 at the end of the land loan if I made the minimum payments. Their land loan was more for people who couldn’t get a tradition loan due to credit or whatever.
Love all the guesses this guy makes. The one way to know who builds the best home is to look at the weight of the home. I moved, set up and tore down Manufactured homes and will say weight is the best way to know who to buy from. I also was able to visit the factorys and will say they are all build by skilled labor. Also look at region rating on the home.
Thank You for This advice, KT! 🤓💯 I've also heard to be mindful of "Front Lot vs. Back Lot" differences. That is to say, that MH dealers (a lot like car dealers) will try to sell you "the latest, greatest" homes--which tend to be on the FRONT of the lot and usually cost more. However, don't "sleep on" the Back Lot Models. They can be a few years older, and may not have ALL the "bells and whistles" of the Front Lot homes, but they can STILL be sturdy homes for a much better price! 💯 Stick-Built Prices are INSANE in the USA! 🤯 And I DON'T WANNA live in a HOA Development. 😣 I judge that MHs are the best option to start with for me. I wish everyone the best along our MH journeys! ☺️🍀
That's what I'm saying, I don't want a HOA development in my community. I'm tired of pay HOA fees and not getting my monies worth and fighting tooth and nail for what I do get.
@EarlBalentine WOO! 💯✅️ I Hear Ya! 😄 I'm really concerned about all these developers sweeping up land all across the US. 😧 In the same way that The US created "Anti-Trust/Monopoly" Laws 150 years ago, the same needs to be done for developers snatching up and over- charging for land/houses--LOADED with HOA fees! 😣 Ugh! 😩 It's GOTTA BE a Better Way! 😣
Once again, you have provided an informative and sane approach when considering the right manufacturer. I might add one other step in the process and that is obtaining references of those who worked with the various builders to determine their level of satisfaction.
Excellent comments about workmanship, the standard features list, and how to gauge the quality of the factory workforce. I'd like to see any comments about negotiating the best price from a dealer, and perhaps vs. a factory showroom. Much thanks!
Wow, I didn't realize there was such a long lead time to get the house built. How do you handle renting a lot and getting the house built? Rent it for months while the house is being built? Or tell the mobile home park which space you want and ask them to hold it for you while you have your house built to the lot and placement? Or have the house built without having a rental space yet, and when it's close to being finished then find a rental spot and hope your house works with the lot? Sorry for the questions :) I'm just trying to figure it all out :)
Thank you for this informative video! I have asked myself the same questions that you are answering as I look at my retirement options. I appreciate the way you are able to explain things so succinctly. Thanks again and please keep up the good work!
Kerry, Kristina Smallhorn did a video about the 5 biggest lies about manufactured homes approximately a year ago which goes over a lot of what you covered here. It might be worth watching.
Thank you. So helpful. If possible could you talk about paying more to convert a home plan from manufactured to modular. Is it worth it? I like the idea of more insulation and better structure. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I find that it is like pulling teeth to get the standard fact sheet. I have seem some good reviews on Champion Homes but i can't find the standard fact sheets on their homes.
Hello Kerry from Texas! I’m primarily a land flipper looking to up my returns. When your dealing with the manufacturer of the home are you going through a local dealer or doing this directly? Also, I’m assuming the best returns are with new homes, correct? And finally, what manufacturer would you recommend? Found your channel doing what I’d like to switch to here in the very near future. Great content, hungry for more. Maybe a future show on what you’ve found adds the most additional value to you builds, i.e. fencing, driveways, garage etc. Thank you for any advice and cheers to you success!
Do your homework. If you know nothing about home construction. Find a builder that builds homes and ask general questions about construction. Order the home. Don't buy off the lot unless that home is perfect for you. Never buy a double wide off the lot as they have to tear the home apart and put it back together. Draw a diagram of every room from floor to ceiling. Point out where you want a TV outlet, a Cat5e or Cat6 or now Cat8 wires - for internet, electrical outlets, outside outlets, outside lights, outside water faucets, etc. Do the same for the outside. Ask where the modem and router goes. Never take anything for granted. If you want drawers in kitchen - note where and how many. If you want adjustable shelves in kitchen - ask. If you want metal faucets - ask. As they come with plastic faucets. If you want a shut off valve at each water/sink/toilet - ask. Upgrade almost everything. As standard doors are thinner than big box replacement doors. Same with windows. Too much inside home is non home industry standard. Get the largest electric panel offered. Seek better roof shingles. Ice and water shield on roof. Ask about floor joists. Ask about roof pitch. There is so much more. Visit multiple dealers as sadly most sales people do not know their product. Make sure to take a 5 or 10% holdback until house is completely placed on concrete pad and all items actually operate properly. Learn about the warranty. Get a copy of sales contract and take to an attorney - so that you fully understand what you are getting and what you are not getting. OK. Some will jump in and state that this is too much. Well, this is your money. Spend it as you wish. Good Luck.
Thank you again kerry!!! We’re looking for a single wide. We’ve been to a dealer and it has horrible reviews, also a lot of complaints from BBB. Kerry I know this is a long shot but can we buy through you??
Good info, before HUD set standards for mobile homes back in the mid 70's there were cheap homes with 2x3 studs on the outside walls and some had little insulation. Thanks for another good video.
Getting a 1.5 bath single wall plumbing 12' X 36' single wide built in the states is a three year wait minimum according to dealer response. I am sure going through a person like Kerry would speed up the process by 60%...
Take the Athens(CAVCO) Sandpiper Unit. It Has all the Parts and Pieces (short of the door to the outside in the Utility room) even the minor adjustment for better ergonomic traffic flow and Tiny Home sized appliances you would have to wait three years in the production line plus the 18 months for the engineering for the minor changes ALL AFTER you Plunk down the required $100K in ADVANCE...People who OWN factories do not LIVE in their manufactured homes.
Solid Advice....and all in under 9-minutes.... us RUclips viewers appreciate efficientcy ..... he also did a summary of his key points at the end👌🏽
Thank you for the feedback! Appreciate it
I had no idea there could be such a discrepancy in the workmanship. Something so important to know when weighing options vs price. Thanks for sharing!
I agree with this. My parents owned and operated a mobile home park during the 1960s and 1970s. There were ones known to be well built (Marlette, Vindale, New Moon, Windsor) and ones known for being built poorly (Brookwood). And like an automobile manufacturer, most companies offered a budget, middle and top of the line models.
Are they all still around? The only one I’ve heard of is Marlette
@@KerryTarnow My neighbor in North Carolina has a New Moon. She told me one time the model year, but I only remember that is between 1970 and 1973. It is still in great shape.
@@Jenny-dg4sb thats awesome! Thanks 🙏🏻
@@KerryTarnow I know that Vindale went out of business some time in the 1980s or possibly 1990s. Not sure about the others. Maybe they were bought out by other companies. I know that Marlette was known for their beautiful wood cabinets. My family lived in a 1965 Vindale. It was well made and featured 1 and a half baths, a tip out living room, built in china closets, a pantry and a GE refrigerator, dishwasher and disposal. It also came with a Chateau by magic chef cook top and eye level oven. Furniture also was included that lasted for years. My dad said it was top of the line for the time.
@@KerryTarnow Windsor went out of business, due to poor mgmt by Zimmer homes...Windsor was doing well, but ceo of Zimmer was trying to many other business ventures, and closed them down
I love these videos. We are a year to year and a half out from selling our house and moving out to the middle of no where down a five mile gravel road. I am a over planner and don’t want to wait till the time to move and not get what we can afford, we’re 60 years old and I don’t want a mortgage. Thank you for the sound advice, I am learning so much. God Bless.
Thank you! 🙌🏼
I have already purchased and lived in 14 stick built homes. We are in our 70's and still have a mortgage. Today if we want to we could sell our stick built home and pay cash from the sale to purchased a manufacture home free and clear with no mortgage. The only exception is the land it sits on. Either you rent the space in a mobile park for $300-$1000 per month base on amenities or you buy your own land that allows mobile homes. If your mobile home doesn't increase in value at lease your land will increase in value. Leasing a t lot is forever until you sell but owning your own land is nice and you will have more space around your MH. A one arcre lot could cost you $10k or $150k depending the area. but your payment would be a lot less than paying a lease lot. The biggest thing especially where I am in Arizona that a stick built home comparison for exactly floor plan, the Stick built could be $400,000 and the same floor plan in a MH would be $100,000. I could cut my budget almost in half going with a MH. The only big CON is the MH will not increase in value as with a stick built home.
Your videos are so helpful! Full of education, resources, and a positive discussion on manufactured homes, I'm so happy to have found your channel! My fiance and I live in the states (just 30 mins south of the Canadian border in NYS). We were able to "rent to own" our current manufactured home and have fully paid it off, but to be honest it's in rough shape and pretty much worthless. We are currently saving our money and looking to buy a new manufactured home next year. I will keep looking to your channel for great information as we move ahead in the buying process, thank you so much 🏡💌
You're very welcome! If you ever have any questions when you get further into the process just let me know.
Another factor that gets overlooked is the company & crew that sets the home. You can have the best manufacured home in the world but if it isn't properly set or they cut corners, you will have problems...
100% correct. Thank you
@@KerryTarnow how do we know who has the best reputation in all or most of these areas?
@@CoCoFantastique Sure you can ask the sales person and they will say they have the best crew in the world. I think the best way to find out how good the setup and finish crew is is by talking to past customers to get the real truth. It's like going to the hair salon to get your hair cut. You find a person that cuts your hair to your satisfaction but they leave and you try another hair stylist and they are not good but work for the same company. So you need to talk to recent new customers that have just bought their MH and have moved in and have desalts with warranty work.
@@EarlBalentine Thank you
Hi Kerry, I’m from California and current starting educated myself the way you explain sounds so easy and My mind already blowing away. I have been watching videos to get familiar with permites, HOA, surveys is so much to learn. I’m already exhausted but thanks to your videos the idea of have a house is getting more and more real
I dislike how most MH parks have narrow lots wherein the units go in the long way. The plain-end side becomes the front-facing side but the fancy front door ends up facing the neighbor’s unit.
They build both long and deep or wide in front with entrance in front.
I got my brand new single wide Manufactured home as part of a land home package in 2019 in texas. It costs about $41,000 and the land was $40,000. The land already had septic installed all they had to do is the clear the rest of the trees for the house, place the base for the house , the driveway, hook
Up the water and place and hook up the utility pole. All included in the 41,000 price. The land was a separate loan through the bank. The interest rate for the land was crazy if I would of done it through their bank I would of paid almost $100,000 at the end of the land loan if I made the minimum payments. Their land loan was more for people who couldn’t get a tradition loan due to credit or whatever.
I love this video! So helpful starting out my modular home purchase venture. Thanks Kerry!
You’re welcome 🙌🏼
Love all the guesses this guy makes. The one way to know who builds the best home is to look at the weight of the home. I moved, set up and tore down Manufactured homes and will say weight is the best way to know who to buy from. I also was able to visit the factorys and will say they are all build by skilled labor. Also look at region rating on the home.
Thank You for This advice, KT! 🤓💯
I've also heard to be mindful of "Front Lot vs. Back Lot" differences.
That is to say, that MH dealers (a lot like car dealers) will try to sell you "the latest, greatest" homes--which tend to be on the FRONT of the lot and usually cost more.
However, don't "sleep on" the Back Lot Models. They can be a few years older, and may not have ALL the "bells and whistles" of the Front Lot homes, but they can STILL be sturdy homes for a much better price! 💯
Stick-Built Prices are INSANE in the USA! 🤯 And I DON'T WANNA live in a HOA Development. 😣
I judge that MHs are the best option to start with for me. I wish everyone the best along our MH journeys! ☺️🍀
That's what I'm saying, I don't want a HOA development in my community. I'm tired of pay HOA fees and not getting my monies worth and fighting tooth and nail for what I do get.
@EarlBalentine
WOO! 💯✅️
I Hear Ya! 😄
I'm really concerned about all these developers sweeping up land all across the US. 😧
In the same way that The US created "Anti-Trust/Monopoly" Laws 150 years ago, the same needs to be done for developers snatching up and over- charging for land/houses--LOADED with HOA fees! 😣 Ugh! 😩 It's GOTTA BE a Better Way! 😣
Excellent video. This is exactly what a new 1st time buyer of a manufacture home should know.
Thanks
Great....Kerry,...who do you recommend in the end then? I'm asking...so you can answer without getting into "trouble" in your video.
Great bottom-line info Kerry, thanx! Also noticed you on Chance's channel commenting. Good to see you there!
Thanks! His vids are great
Once again, you have provided an informative and sane approach when considering the right manufacturer. I might add one other step in the process and that is obtaining references of those who worked with the various builders to determine their level of satisfaction.
Thats a great idea, thank you!
@@KerryTarnow you are very welcome!
Excellent comments about workmanship, the standard features list, and how to gauge the quality of the factory workforce. I'd like to see any comments about negotiating the best price from a dealer, and perhaps vs. a factory showroom. Much thanks!
Wow, I didn't realize there was such a long lead time to get the house built. How do you handle renting a lot and getting the house built? Rent it for months while the house is being built? Or tell the mobile home park which space you want and ask them to hold it for you while you have your house built to the lot and placement? Or have the house built without having a rental space yet, and when it's close to being finished then find a rental spot and hope your house works with the lot? Sorry for the questions :) I'm just trying to figure it all out :)
Sometimes we rent an empty lot or sometimes the park will hold an open lot without rent. I would definitely secure a lot before buying a home thought
Excellent questions. I bet some people don't think of some of this stuff until too late. Thanks for the answers, also.
Thank you for your videos. My husband and I are looking to buy the land and put a manufactory home. Your videos are of great help. Thnks.
Thank you for this informative video! I have asked myself the same questions that you are answering as I look at my retirement options. I appreciate the way you are able to explain things so succinctly. Thanks again and please keep up the good work!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
I concur, very beneficial
Around my area, Clayton is the only dealer. Sucks.
Amen to all that. Ty, Kerry.
-subbed after SW vid-☺
Kerry, Kristina Smallhorn did a video about the 5 biggest lies about manufactured homes approximately a year ago which goes over a lot of what you covered here. It might be worth watching.
I'll check it out! I like her videos. Thank you
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you. So helpful. If possible could you talk about paying more to convert a home plan from manufactured to modular. Is it worth it? I like the idea of more insulation and better structure. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
I find that it is like pulling teeth to get the standard fact sheet. I have seem some good reviews on Champion Homes but i can't find the standard fact sheets on their homes.
Interesting, that seems odd to me they should be happy to give it to you. I’m a fan of Champion 🙌🏼
They aren’t built like a palm harbor or deer valley but they also aren’t as expensive either
Sunshine Homes are on par with Champion. Maybe even better because their factory isn't over-producing but still makes high quality homes.
Solid advice Kerry! Thank you for taking the time to make this. 👌
Glad it was helpful!
Hello Kerry from Texas! I’m primarily a land flipper looking to up my returns. When your dealing with the manufacturer of the home are you going through a local dealer or doing this directly? Also, I’m assuming the best returns are with new homes, correct? And finally, what manufacturer would you recommend? Found your channel doing what I’d like to switch to here in the very near future. Great content, hungry for more. Maybe a future show on what you’ve found adds the most additional value to you builds, i.e. fencing, driveways, garage etc. Thank you for any advice and cheers to you success!
Do your homework. If you know nothing about home construction. Find a builder that builds homes and ask general questions about construction. Order the home. Don't buy off the lot unless that home is perfect for you. Never buy a double wide off the lot as they have to tear the home apart and put it back together. Draw a diagram of every room from floor to ceiling. Point out where you want a TV outlet, a Cat5e or Cat6 or now Cat8 wires - for internet, electrical outlets, outside outlets, outside lights, outside water faucets, etc. Do the same for the outside. Ask where the modem and router goes. Never take anything for granted. If you want drawers in kitchen - note where and how many. If you want adjustable shelves in kitchen - ask. If you want metal faucets - ask. As they come with plastic faucets. If you want a shut off valve at each water/sink/toilet - ask. Upgrade almost everything. As standard doors are thinner than big box replacement doors. Same with windows. Too much inside home is non home industry standard. Get the largest electric panel offered. Seek better roof shingles. Ice and water shield on roof. Ask about floor joists. Ask about roof pitch. There is so much more. Visit multiple dealers as sadly most sales people do not know their product. Make sure to take a 5 or 10% holdback until house is completely placed on concrete pad and all items actually operate properly. Learn about the warranty. Get a copy of sales contract and take to an attorney - so that you fully understand what you are getting and what you are not getting. OK. Some will jump in and state that this is too much. Well, this is your money. Spend it as you wish. Good Luck.
Nive info thanks!
Binary person, Excellent information and suggestions well put. Thank you!
Thank you again kerry!!! We’re looking for a single wide. We’ve been to a dealer and it has horrible reviews, also a lot of complaints from BBB. Kerry I know this is a long shot but can we buy through you??
Do manufactured homes use drywall like in stick built homes? The manufactured homes that I've seen have walls that look like laminated panels.
Drywall is an upgrade in manufactured homes. They can, you just have to order it when the home is built.
So which brand are good? Like in cars I know I can buy Toyota brand and I be good for 20 years...
Wise words. Thank you.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Awesome video, if you wanted to really knock it out of the park you could physically show us a bad one vs good
Thankyou very informative 👍🏽
You’re welcome 🙏🏻
👏👏👏Great Video! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
So true! Just like buying anything major - research everything to make a factual decision. :)
100%!
We are currently purchasing a used MH, is there a way to get the standards sheet on it?
You can contact the manufacturer. They should provide it for the model you purchased.
Good info, before HUD set standards for mobile homes back in the mid 70's there were cheap homes with 2x3 studs on the outside walls and some had little insulation. Thanks for another good video.
Thank you!
The big question is....Does Kerry respond to his Facebook messages? Why I advocate buying 80s or 90s unit from a salesman like Kerry to remodel...
Good subject
Thank you!
Are Clayton and Fleetwood good homes? If so wich one is better?
Did you find out more information on Fleetwood homes ?
What are your thoughts on Champion? Where I live there is only 1 mobile home dealer and they only have Champion homes on there lot.
Champion owns the factory I buy from (SRI-Regent). Every factory could be different but I’m really happy with them 👍
@@KerryTarnow awesome thank you :) I really fell in love with the homes that they have, just doing my research before I pull the trigger
What are the best companies for cold weather in Ohio USA? , Canada weather
You can increase insulation with any factory.
Thank you for this information.
Glad it was helpful!
Getting a 1.5 bath single wall plumbing 12' X 36' single wide built in the states is a three year wait minimum according to dealer response. I am sure going through a person like Kerry would speed up the process by 60%...
Take the Athens(CAVCO) Sandpiper Unit. It Has all the Parts and Pieces (short of the door to the outside in the Utility room) even the minor adjustment for better ergonomic traffic flow and Tiny Home sized appliances you would have to wait three years in the production line plus the 18 months for the engineering for the minor changes ALL AFTER you Plunk down the required $100K in ADVANCE...People who OWN factories do not LIVE in their manufactured homes.
No sleepovers, ha! Check!
Haha 👊🏻
I live in this trailer park in Canada and it has been taken over by these pot growing thugs who are in and out of prison.What should I do?
Call the trailer park supervisor Mr. Lahey and his assistant Randy, they will take care of it.
There should be a video about steel manufactured home instead of wood it's steel
Got that right watch Never Buy A Clayton Manufactured Home on RUclips
Yada yada yada
This guy is cute
No sleepovers? Fail.
Stay far away from Clayton Homes and its subsidiaries
After doing weeks of research go stick built.