Juan Durandt I feel the same way, the weight of the tire would be on the hinges, not the actual tailgate. I feel like the steel “reinforcement bracket” just adds more unnecessary weight to be carried on the hinges when opened.
The hinge isn’t the weak point, the surface of the tailgate is more prone to bending than the hinges are. The reinforcement bracket spreads the extra weight over a larger surface area to prevent the tailgate itself from buckling.
To add, the tailgate of the JL is significantly more reinforced compared to the JK. The JL has a magnesium tailgate frame that not only twice as thick as the JK, but is lighter and stronger than the steel stamped JK tailgate. The JL also has more robust tailgate hinges, much larger than the JK. Overall, the entire tailgate assembly of the JL is superior.
@Yahsone If it is a JL Rubicon it will be fine. Jeep reinforced the tailgate over the JK considerable more. The JL Rubicon can run 35" tires without a lift.
Thanks, your videos are the best. One thing I think is a mistake, at 5:09 in the video, the spacer labeled "top" comes from the relocation kit where it comes with 4 top and 4 bottom spacers. I think instead of that piece, you are supposed to use the spacer that came with the tailgate reinforcement kit to go under that bracket. Its not labelled top or bottom. This leaves the 4 top and 4 bottom pieces that came with the spare tire relocation kit to be used on the *outside* portion of the bracket with the mopar stamp. You can choose to not use them at all, use 2 top and 2 bottom, or double stack them 4 top and 4 bottom, to give three different outward spacing options depending on your tire requirements.
Thanks for the vid - appreciate the content. Is it just me... probably a great kit but you're still technically carrying 100% of that wheel and tire weight on the tailgate and hinges even though the weight is distributed a little better with the Mopar kit? Nice easy install though.....
No way that 37’s over time on stock hinges will last. Also that tire carrier is made out of magnesium, that will not hold up overtime with a 35 or 37 inch tire. You are asking for trouble.
Thanks for the vid - I see how the weight is distributed across the tailgate but all the weight is still technically sitting on the two primary tailgate hinges correct? The tailgate is still forced to hold all the weight of the 37" wheel and tire? Thx
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. With this mod the hinges are not only carrying the weight of the larger tire but also the weight of the heavy reinforcement panel as well. Apparently the hinges can handle the weight, it's the back door panel its protecting by shifting some of that weight off the door panel and on to the hinges. The other thing is that stock, the hinges connect to the back door just a few inches on the end of the door with 4 bolts. This mod extends the length of the hinge half way across the door, and connects the hinge to the back door with 12 (the original 4 plus 8 more) bolts
What was used to relocate the 3rd brake light to where it can be seen over the tire? I thought it was only tall enough to be seen over a 35" tire. It looks like something has moved it up a few inches
What did you do with the 3rd rear light? In the video when you guys trial lifted that wheel up, it looked like the tire was covering it/hitting the brake light. But your final clips showed the brake light to be well above the tire.
I installed both the reinforcement and the tire lift both from Mopar and was as the third brake light relocation kit. My sensor is going off, anyway to fix or correct this issue?
I’d like to add this kit to my 2018 JL Sahara. I’m going from an 18” wheel (33” tire) to a 17” wheel (35” tire) Will I need anything more than what I see in the video?
How does this actually help the hinge weight? Also, why does one clip show the tire covering the third brake light then the final clip it doesn't? What did you do?
I don't see how is this going to help, all you are doing is adding more weight to the tailgate main hinges by installing the kit. I recommend Spartacus HD kit for 37" tires.
is there a way to tell how many spacers will be needed before hefting this tire up there? Going to mount 37 13.50 17 tire with a 17 x 9 wheels and 12mm offset (negative 4.5)
I have a 2018 JL Rubicon 2 door, it came with 33x11.50's BFGoodrich KO2'S and I have the same rims as in your video, if I want to upgrade to 35X12.50's will the factory spare carrier be good? also will the factory wheels work for the 35X12.50's? I m getting the mopar 2'' suspension lift before I upgrade to the bigger tires... thanks
did this but doesn't address what to do w/ the camera when using larger wheel for spare? How can we extend the camera? 90% will upsize wheel when they upsize tire so 90% of folks are going to be looking inside their spare when the reverse cam comes on! HELP!
How did you put the 37” tire with the stock rubicon rims on the tire carrier? My sport s with 35”s doesn’t have enough bolt sticking out to tighten it to the tire carrier.
Those are just threaded holes in the plate, from what i'm told by mopar they are just anticipating the aftermarket will design parts to be compatible with it.
The bracket itself is coated in that heavy duty truck bed material, like what they use on the bumpers and rock rails. Unless you know a good way to strip that coating off, these would be difficult to powder coat.
For normal driving you can adjust the steering stops a bit and the stock rims without spacers are fine. When at full flex spacers will keep it from rubbing the skid plate and control arms.
I just bought a 2018 Rubicon with the same rims. I didn't realize you could put 35 or 37 in tires on those rims being only 7.5" wide for the inside of the rim. What tires are those? Also, how does this reinforce the tailgate? Wouldn't the hinges need to be upgraded? It looks like this kit just adds more weight? Very interested in this. Not trying to sound sarcastic at all just very curious about doing this myself. Thanks. Great vid!
The plate on the outside ties the hinges more into other locations making it stronger. The tires we chose are a 37x12.5 Cooper and they mounted up no problem.
Tom Pham you can change that to whatever color you want. I say that because I watch all the videos on here and the JL they have is a Sahara, they just recently got a 2 door sport as well
You don't need it. Had 35s on mine and had no issues. You'll need bumpstops though to stop the wheel from vibrating when hitting hard bumps. I only changed the tire carrier when I upgraded to 38s. (Didn't use Mopar).
@@wilp5991 do you know where I can find bump stops for it? I checked and all I've seen are jk stops. I did see guys using ovc and a rubber end cap as extensions for there over sized spares.
@@pinedac2001 the jk stops might be compatible. It's just a rubber piece that you stick in your tailgate.. i got mine for free so I don't know where he got it..
I'm quite surprised that you dont need reinforced tailgate hinges as well
Juan Durandt I feel the same way, the weight of the tire would be on the hinges, not the actual tailgate. I feel like the steel “reinforcement bracket” just adds more unnecessary weight to be carried on the hinges when opened.
The hinge isn’t the weak point, the surface of the tailgate is more prone to bending than the hinges are. The reinforcement bracket spreads the extra weight over a larger surface area to prevent the tailgate itself from buckling.
To add, the tailgate of the JL is significantly more reinforced compared to the JK. The JL has a magnesium tailgate frame that not only twice as thick as the JK, but is lighter and stronger than the steel stamped JK tailgate. The JL also has more robust tailgate hinges, much larger than the JK. Overall, the entire tailgate assembly of the JL is superior.
@Yahsone If it is a JL Rubicon it will be fine. Jeep reinforced the tailgate over the JK considerable more. The JL Rubicon can run 35" tires without a lift.
Thanks, your videos are the best. One thing I think is a mistake, at 5:09 in the video, the spacer labeled "top" comes from the relocation kit where it comes with 4 top and 4 bottom spacers. I think instead of that piece, you are supposed to use the spacer that came with the tailgate reinforcement kit to go under that bracket. Its not labelled top or bottom. This leaves the 4 top and 4 bottom pieces that came with the spare tire relocation kit to be used on the *outside* portion of the bracket with the mopar stamp. You can choose to not use them at all, use 2 top and 2 bottom, or double stack them 4 top and 4 bottom, to give three different outward spacing options depending on your tire requirements.
Thanks someone finally found out their mistake..
Thanks for the vid - appreciate the content. Is it just me... probably a great kit but you're still technically carrying 100% of that wheel and tire weight on the tailgate and hinges even though the weight is distributed a little better with the Mopar kit? Nice easy install though.....
No way that 37’s over time on stock hinges will last.
Also that tire carrier is made out of magnesium, that will not hold up overtime with a 35 or 37 inch tire. You are asking for trouble.
why is the whole kit $1045 plus tax on your website vs $429 plus tax on Mopar site?
I’ve noticed a lot of their stuff is overpriced
Thanks for the vid - I see how the weight is distributed across the tailgate but all the weight is still technically sitting on the two primary tailgate hinges correct? The tailgate is still forced to hold all the weight of the 37" wheel and tire? Thx
I don’t see how this will reinforce the tailgate cause all the weight of the tire is still on the hinges of the tailgate.
JL models come built for heavier loads on tailgate after customer feedback from JK models. Completely redesigned the construction of the gate
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. With this mod the hinges are not only carrying the weight of the larger tire but also the weight of the heavy reinforcement panel as well. Apparently the hinges can handle the weight, it's the back door panel its protecting by shifting some of that weight off the door panel and on to the hinges. The other thing is that stock, the hinges connect to the back door just a few inches on the end of the door with 4 bolts. This mod extends the length of the hinge half way across the door, and connects the hinge to the back door with 12 (the original 4 plus 8 more) bolts
You can adjust the third brake light as well
What was used to relocate the 3rd brake light to where it can be seen over the tire? I thought it was only tall enough to be seen over a 35" tire. It looks like something has moved it up a few inches
What did you do with the 3rd rear light? In the video when you guys trial lifted that wheel up, it looked like the tire was covering it/hitting the brake light. But your final clips showed the brake light to be well above the tire.
The stock one is adjustable up and down
Rugged ridge Spartacus is a lot beefier, mounts into the body over the hinges, is adjustable and a lot less expensive.
agreed but it started rusting after day3! My vanity got the better of me and went w/the weak looking OEM.
I installed both the reinforcement and the tire lift both from Mopar and was as the third brake light relocation kit. My sensor is going off, anyway to fix or correct this issue?
I’d like to add this kit to my 2018 JL Sahara. I’m going from an 18” wheel (33” tire) to a 17” wheel (35” tire) Will I need anything more than what I see in the video?
You will be good with this kit!
How does this actually help the hinge weight? Also, why does one clip show the tire covering the third brake light then the final clip it doesn't? What did you do?
I don't see how is this going to help, all you are doing is adding more weight to the tailgate main hinges by installing the kit. I recommend Spartacus HD kit for 37" tires.
Don't back that tire into anything. That is sheet metal that the hinge bolts to. My friend backed his into a tree, and bent the body a bit.
Jeez, thanks for the tip!
I have a 38” spare with 22” Fuel contra can that bracket work for me?
Great video . I have one on my jl rubicon. Any idea what the hole is for? On The top left above the badge . Thanks
is there a way to tell how many spacers will be needed before hefting this tire up there? Going to mount 37 13.50 17 tire with a 17 x 9 wheels and 12mm offset (negative 4.5)
Use all the spacers that come with the kit, if you need more just throw on some washers.
Thanks
Yeah no problem!
I have a 2018 JL Rubicon 2 door, it came with 33x11.50's BFGoodrich KO2'S and I have the same rims as in your video, if I want to upgrade to 35X12.50's will the factory spare carrier be good? also will the factory wheels work for the 35X12.50's? I m getting the mopar 2'' suspension lift before I upgrade to the bigger tires... thanks
did this but doesn't address what to do w/ the camera when using larger wheel for spare? How can we extend the camera? 90% will upsize wheel when they upsize tire so 90% of folks are going to be looking inside their spare when the reverse cam comes on! HELP!
did you solve it? How?
Am I crazy but he ever use the T35 torx bit? 🤔
How did you put the 37” tire with the stock rubicon rims on the tire carrier? My sport s with 35”s doesn’t have enough bolt sticking out to tighten it to the tire carrier.
Nice, it will rust a lot faster now that you crushed the pinch weld together 😅
Those three threads you put the plugs in to, what are those for?
Those are just threaded holes in the plate, from what i'm told by mopar they are just anticipating the aftermarket will design parts to be compatible with it.
What are the extra threaded holes for? Installed the kit and couldn't help but wonder.
So its just a riser.... Doesn’t change the fact all that weight is still on that hinge..🥴
The problem with this is that it does not address the most important part- the hinges.
A T35 Torx bit? Where did you get that? You mean a T30... :)
Anyone know how much one of these weighs?
Probably around 10 pounds.
Excellent vidéo. It assisted me greatly during the install on my JLUR 2019 Ocean Blue! Thank you! Keep up the good work! 👍
Te falto elevar la tercera luz.
The music is Fing annoying
Great job. Anyone get this thing powder-coated to match colors?
The bracket itself is coated in that heavy duty truck bed material, like what they use on the bumpers and rock rails. Unless you know a good way to strip that coating off, these would be difficult to powder coat.
Nice video. Thanks
Thank you!
Not worth the price tag.
The High Mount stop light will need adjusting up to clear a 37" as well.
CORRECT!
another excellent video man
not a fan of this kit. It doesn't address any stress put on the hinges themselves.
what size tire was that? 37X?
On stock rims do do 35s and 37s need spacers
For normal driving you can adjust the steering stops a bit and the stock rims without spacers are fine. When at full flex spacers will keep it from rubbing the skid plate and control arms.
I completely agree with the comment below, no spacers needed until you're at full flex or bump!
Does this Jeep run spacers on the stock wheels?
Will this work on a jk, or do you have one for the jk?
I doubt this will work for a JK. If you go to the mopar website they probably have one for a JK.
I just bought a 2018 Rubicon with the same rims. I didn't realize you could put 35 or 37 in tires on those rims being only 7.5" wide for the inside of the rim. What tires are those? Also, how does this reinforce the tailgate? Wouldn't the hinges need to be upgraded? It looks like this kit just adds more weight? Very interested in this. Not trying to sound sarcastic at all just very curious about doing this myself. Thanks. Great vid!
The plate on the outside ties the hinges more into other locations making it stronger. The tires we chose are a 37x12.5 Cooper and they mounted up no problem.
You did not torque the spare to the recommended 59 foot pounds. Starting at 5:36, is there a torque spec to tighten those bolts to?
Says on his 2018 JL Rubicon but it's a Sahara 😂
0:44 red dashboard = rubicon. but if you're saying that cause of the painted fenders, they are offered with painted or unpainted.
Rubi's with the Brown leather interior get vehicle colored dash. My Billet Silver/Brown leather Rubi has a silver dash not the cool red anodizes dash.
Tom Pham you can change that to whatever color you want. I say that because I watch all the videos on here and the JL they have is a Sahara, they just recently got a 2 door sport as well
This was in fact a Rubicon, actually a good friend and customers vehicle!
Do I need this kit for a 35x12.50.17? They will be mounted on 2020 factory rubicon wheels.
You don't need it. Had 35s on mine and had no issues. You'll need bumpstops though to stop the wheel from vibrating when hitting hard bumps. I only changed the tire carrier when I upgraded to 38s. (Didn't use Mopar).
@@wilp5991 do you know where I can find bump stops for it? I checked and all I've seen are jk stops. I did see guys using ovc and a rubber end cap as extensions for there over sized spares.
@@pinedac2001 the jk stops might be compatible. It's just a rubber piece that you stick in your tailgate.. i got mine for free so I don't know where he got it..