Mike Rowe says four-year degrees no longer resonate with pride, they’re ‘shameful’
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- TV host Mike Rowe discusses Americans' confidence in higher education on 'The Bottom Line.' #foxbusiness #thebottomline
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The funny part is the college-educated ones are complaining about their situation more than non-college educated. We know why but no one is talking about this.
I think this is gonna be like the 08 crash except instead of poor people getting the shaft it's gonna be the rich and well off middle class. In order to maintain their lives they have to foot the bill, we can live off nothing and as far as wages go for us they can't get much lower
My children have a college fund that was set aside by their late grandmother. Her brother is the executor of the will and these funds. He holds multiple master degrees and is a director at one of the nations top tier universities. He recently visited us and was stating how scared he is for his own grandchildren to go to college, including his own former elite university, also including the one in which he is tenured. Plainly saying, he doesn't want them going to college. I was shocked beyond any comprehension to hear him say this. I was also elated to hear him say this because I feel the same way. Hopefully, we can use those funds for another purpose.
Let the kids do what they want.
@charliebrown5611 😆 Those are some wise words 👏 smh 🙄
@@so5502 thanks.
It would really benefit them if those funds were used for a down payment on a house.
Trade school. Help them learn a skill that no one can take from them. No matter what they do they can fall back on a career in a trade.
People got college degrees to work at big corporations and be taken care of for life. But now, with blackrock, vanguard and other hedge funds owning the world's corporations, people are treated like numbers and let go at the drop of a hat.
But the small, family run buisnesses still take care of their employees and treat employees as human beings and not numbers.
For sure, the best places I ever worked at were always family owned. Every time without fail when the family would sell to a bigger company our work conditions and all around treatment went to the gutter.
The problem is that college is too expensive for a lack of competence
It doesn’t pay off anymore either
Thank you Mike Rowe! We have discussed this topic with our currently 16yo son, (sophomore in HS) and he has chosen to study welding!! I am so proud of him. He will have a great future with not much debt!! Love Mike Rowe for sounding the alarm and speaking up!
Great ... we're proud of him ... but please stop yelling (!, !, !).
For profit education is doomed.
I love how Mike Rowe stated the college educated might means, holding 1.7 trillion dollars in debt and can't get a job in your field.
I don't know, maybe it's indoctrination instead of education?
Well, nowadays if i had a degree in one of those expensive woke american colleges i would be ashamed and this comes from someone who has a good education.
No one wants to play in a rigged game anymore
I graduated high school, had the grades and scores to go pretty much anywhere. Went to a popular state college for one semester and left because I didn’t feel I should sacrifice my values for liberal education. Went to a local community college for automotive technician, GM ASEP program which also was a co-op program with local dealerships. I went to school full time for 8 weeks and worked full time for 8 weeks (paid) as part of my curriculum. When I graduated, I had a 2 year Associates Degree, 2 years of work experience, a guaranteed job, and no debt. I had multiple classmates who stayed in the automotive field and currently make well into 6 figure salaries as shop foremen or service managers.
Remember people something I discovered while at university here in Texas college is for a education it doesn’t prepare you for crap this was over 20 years ago who ever said college prepares you for your next job is fool of it
Cost and finding a college degree doesn’t mean you’re getting the job you want. Employers aren’t that impressed anymore
Doon't mistqaake education for intelligence.
atleast learn how to spell "mistake"
As a 52 year old trades worker, I would rather have a fake degree than be crushing my body in this crap work every day to make enough to die early or spend all my savings to live another year.
I hear that bro, trades is a pain. Seems like your doomed either way.
Learning a trade can be the answer for so many young people including veterans. High schools should do more to encourage students to weigh options and just maybe end up with a career that they are good at and like it! This is a great opportunity and I hope we hear more about it often. Thank you. Mary
I don't have a 4 year induction and retired at 43 and own property and three cars and don't owe a penny so much for education didn't need it for success
Kids are being indoctrinated in college...very sad
Yeah, but not everyone wants to be a drug dealer.
its about money. thats it. thats all. fewer and fewer people can afford it, and some of the ones who can afford it are smart enough to realize that they wont even make that much anyways...if they can even get a job.
The bottom line is a person needs to provide a skill that satisfies a need in the society- college degree or not.
My life's goal was to get "independent" and self financed - requires sacrifice, but do-able if you stay focused.
Live free or die.
I work for an ad agency representing electricians, plumbers, etc. Our clients are smarter than most college grads, and they're earning a better living, too.
Yes, I fully agree. I have a 4-year Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering. I make over $200K. It is a constant source of shame for me. I don't know how I will ever survive. The regret and embarrassment I feel is debilitating. I wish someone would have stopped me from going down this useless path in my life. If only I would have listened to Mike Rowe, I could have saved myself a lifetime of sorrow and remorse.
You are clearly speaking from a not egocentric point of view, as the genius you are.
@@enriconono3638 I've worked hard to get where I am, including getting an education. What's wrong with that? There are too many people in the US who expect things to be handed to them, and they don't want to work. Then they complain, and are jealous of people who have more than them. Hate to tell you, that's how capitalism works....
That Mr. wonderful shark tank Said there are three majors in college engineering engineering engineering if you go to college to become an engineer you’re the best a great exception to the rule
Sorry to hear bro. Many people have businesses and franchises, easily profiting $500k after expenses, and they do not have college degrees....Sorry to hear about your choices.
@@richbrake9910 when, you say "many", how many people are actually making $500K? And, what percentage of new business ventures fail within the first 5 years?
I’m a retired RN, who graduated from the three-year hospital diploma program.
Many times I oriented four year baccalaureate nursing students. Their programs wouldn’t give them enough clinical hours and I found they had difficulty with patient care .
I earned master and I am planning to vote for Trump
Master of Misinformation I presume 😊
@@Bluelu69 in math
So many College Educators have never experienced the real World of Work.
They finished High School, went on to College/Uni for 4 perhaps 6 years [or perhaps even more] and Whamo they are Doctors of something or other but apart from maybe cleaning dishes or waiting tables part-time to help pay fees etc. that is all the experience working they have had.
And now they are standing in front of Students not much younger than themselves and teaching them about aspects of life they have only read about in books.
Trades are the real thing and can lead to many other opportunities to go ahead in lfe..real life.
Is the fact that most college degrees don't translate into the sort of skills anyone can use really that much of a revelation - or is it just that it's taken this long for everyone to finally admit it? I graduated with a liberal arts degree in Psychology in 1990. It took me about four job interviews to realize how screwed I was.
Bro how did you end up getting led into that? Was it one of those career advisors they have in universities?
What did you think you were going to do with a liberal arts degree, with a focus on psychology?? People need to think about the degrees they go after and see if it is in demand.
@@BeastLegend91 You're preaching to the choir. I was a stupid 17 year-old who believed a college degree - ANY college degree - was the key to a lucrative career. Six years later I went back and got a bachelor's in Computer Science - which was worth its weight in gold.
The only part of Mike Rowe's take on four-year college degrees that most have been dumbed down to the point of being practically worthless that I'm not sure I agree with is that it's a recent phenomenon. I could have told you that 34 years ago.
In regard to public sentiment, being awarded a college degree today means about as much as being awarded a participation trophy in pee wee sports.
How many people do they have on this show without a college degree? I’m guessing very few. Why is that?
Almost all of the broadcasters come from Ivy League schools and have a law degree. Check it out. They are well connected. Our news casters "well educated" and pretty and they follow their parents.
Loved Mike Rowe in Dirty Jobs . Wish he would make more shows again he is a funny blue color man
He's a blue "color" man, like a Smurf?
Mike Rowe is not blue collar, he graduated from college with a communications degree (one of the degrees he calls dumb) and had worked in TV all his life give me a break
@@epikgamer4462 exactly, at least someone else is paying attention. Feels like a Mike Rowe book is about to be released, or in the works. It's all Theatrics.
I've worked with 8 Harvard graduates and have been impressed with one of them. And those impressive characteristics were not from Harvard.
Bachelor of Science here (biology), I’m voting Trump
Attend The Citadel, the Military College of South Carolina.(Band Company, Class of 1984)
College is a horrible investment. Period. Go into massive debt for a $50K per year job, when you can go into the trades and pull $80K with experience with no debt? Until college becomes more affordable, this trend will continue.
Especially out of Harvard
Look at all those rich college-educated ppl on tv telling americans that they shouldnt go to college. Why aren't they plumbera, or sending their kids to trade school?
A friend once joked that a college degree and 3 dollars will get you a cup of coffee and not much more.
I've heard and personally known so many people who went to college, and they ended up either working in fast food to pay off the loans because they couldn't find any other jobs, or they were homeless. Most people dont need higher than a high school education, I know someone who only has high school but he makes more than enough to own his own house with the current career he has
I was a tutor in a college for years. People who shouldn't be there are allowed to be. Sorry, it's true. Not everyone is meant for college and grad school. And that's okay!!
I agree 100%. I will never forget when the doctoral college did nothing when another student was clearly cheating. When I was allowed to finally talk to someone in administration about it, they could care less. This student had copied my weekly online class discussion board postings verbatim for weeks. Luckily, the cheating student dropped out of the program due to the difficulty increasing for the dissertation.
The majority of trades jobs are hard work and it's a young man's jobs. Also they are not handing out six figure trade job salaries like candy. I'm not entirely sure where the idea of trades being a get rich quick scheme came from. Even considering debt, four year degrees from accredited institutions are extremely valuable and it's grift to say otherwise. People who own them not only tend to make more, they also tend to be healthier and be happier. Read literally any study on this topic. Computer scientists and engineers aren't getting back problems working slouched under a car hood or working on pipes all day. There's a place for trades but they should only be for people who cannot obtain degrees.
People want what they think is easy. They think oh I have to write papers and it takes four years, that's too hard. I will just go into trades and I can make six figures, not realizing you still have to put in work. Doing something like carpentry or woodworking is much different from your twenties into your thirties, and so on.
I’m a Registered Nurse and far from a 6 figure salary. We need higher salaries too, come on, we take care of people. The hospital I’m employed at paid for my BSN and now for my MSN. I wouldn’t have done this if it weren’t for the hospital paying my tuition. I love my profession, but need more money honey.
Mike I'm the author of EIGHT DAYS IN AN INNER CITY SCHOOL. Please say something about the out of control OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING for k-12 teachers in this country. That is why we have teacher shortages
He’s right
I love the way the media uses "college educated" and "non-college educated". That alone shows their bias. Why not divide into "small business owners" and "non-small business owners"?
Not everyone who is college educated is a small business owner. They shouldn't bring those distinctions up to begin with unless it is relevant to the conversation.
They started giving out these degrees to everyone - accepting them into programs - simply because they got a "B" avg, or they were the right color. It was hard to get accepted when I was applying back in the 70s. And then they stopped making them work to get As because that was racist. People started graduating but their degrees meant nothing, because you didn't really have to work like you did 50 years ago to get them. Back in the 70's I never took a class to get a high SAT - I got accepted because I excelled on good grades and hard work, passed tests. Never took a loan - worked my way through. The AA people were just starting to get in and boy, could you tell the difference. The thought was, why are they here? They can't compete. They failed out right away. There were tons of Ds and Cs given out in my classes. To make the Deans list was a big thing.
Now, they just lower the tests, because the govt doesn't dare let them fail. So now the entire system is failing because everyone knowsthe degree is worthless. Unfortunately, it is spreading through the system so badly that now our systems, such are our planes are failing. DEI is killing us.
Higher Education is nuclear physics, bio engineering & the like. Special Skills is the bread & butter of the middle/working classes.
I’m working on my Associates of Science Degree in Firearms Technology and Gunsmithing at Sonoran Desert Institute and after that I’m planning to go to University of Arizona for my Bachelor’s of Arts Degree in Law to become an attorney.
Funny Mike Rowe calls degrees "shameful", especially since his degree is in theater and opera singing. Yet somehow that qualifies him to be the voice for the working class. Give me a break, the guy is a celebrity and CEO of his own company. Perhaps he should stick to counting his money, or go back to promoting products QVC since that's what he's good at.
But once they get you its hard to get out. They encourage more and more higher education.
Dude was was on fire at the end . They stopped his flow smh
Let's start with what degree vs. being indoctrinated . compound that with the social financial dept and loss of business due to this social woke b.s.
we have today demand for 25 dollar with a three dollar an hour attitude and work ethic .
typical of countries spiraling by design to stupidity and lack of knowledge, who are the easiest to control and predictive progeamimg works best on.
Forget college, maybe you should have paid more attention in HS English class and you would have learned proper grammar and punctuation. Hard to take anything you post seriously.
@@markm5677 Probably not his fault, public school education these days is more about indoctrination and less about education. But you are right, the level of spelling, grammar, and punctuation is appalling. It's hard to believe how far the writing skills have fallen in just in the last 5 to 10 years.
We need to start a new university.
Even an M B A can do it 😂😂😂
Wow higher tuition for zoom. Crazy
I make wayyy more with a college degree than if I didn’t
All depends on what you are willing to do.
Shamful is not correct. He is correct sbout not persuing one if you donot want. There are many well paying skilled jobs available.
I'm encouraging all my children (six of them) to go to trade schools to learn actual, real-world, problem-solving skills. Everything from Welding, to Nursing, to Robotics, to various computer certifications. With these types of certs/degrees, my children will learn to be "problem solvers," and actually contribute something to their little corner of the world. Kids who get 4-year bull hocky degrees in various political ideologies (scared to actually say which ones for fear that RUclips will censor this comment) are useless in the long term - instead of being able to solve problems, they are only capable of causing problems. You all know exactly what I mean when I say, "causing problems." Hats off to Mike Rowe who (as a well-known public figure) still has half a brain.
Save yourself a ton of dough and achieve the same objective, with the added bonus of your kids learning responsibility, respect for others and rapidly maturing: Have them join the military, especially the USAF or USN, and in four years they'll have become responsible adults with having mastered a marketable skill! My father did it (urged by the onset of WWII), I did it, and my son did it. I stepped out of uniform on the 24th. of October and began a 21 yr. career with IBM on the 5th. of December, and finished a 51 year career in the computer industry 7 yrs. ago. During that time I encouraged several co-workers, who were frustrated with the lackadaisical attitudes and unwillingness to accept responsibility of their male offspring, to do the same with their sons. Invariably, within a few years of their doing so, they came to me and thanked me for "showing them the light" as their respective sons had done a complete turnaround.
Two of my sons are in the Army National Guard right now; one just got promoted to Specialist, and his older brother just got promoted to Staff Sergeant. My youngest son will be going to Army Basic this summer so the Guard can pay for him to go to Veterinary school. ;) @@haidozo4732
Nursing requires you to have a degree and robotics more than likely will require someone to have an engineering degree. What I tell my kids is you don't have to go to college, but you do have to do something post secondary, such as trades, military, or a first responder type job. I also tell them, if you are going to go to college, pick something that is in demand or you can use to elevate your current position. I was in the military, I was a police officer and I have two bachelor's degrees. College isn't useless and a waste it all depends on what you put into it and what you take out of it, along with how you apply it.
Yep. I've been a registered nurse for almost 30 years. I got that "degree" at a technical college which emphasized technical competence over theory and ideology. I agree with you whole heartedly. If you do go to a university, get a degree in something that allows you to solve real world problems in order to elevate your fellow man. (Not to be confused with being a troublemaker in the name of so-called social justice.) @@BeastLegend91
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Unless you own your own business and make big money, today's woman doesn't want anything to do with an uneducated low wage man. You might get lucky and land a plumper.
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Mike Rowe is the devil😢
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