The comments on this video are gonna be fun :) Take just about anything I say in this video with a grain of salt, game hasn't been out too long so Im sure they're some things I got wrong, Anna for one is a unit thats probably better then I conveyed having pretty survicable base stats when reclassing but still has to go thru 5 levels and a master seal to be a good (magic) unit. So TLDR; I may be wrong but I want to hear all your opinions just be respectful plz luve you all mwah ❤
When I first saw Anna I totally agreed with you, she looked like a rough character to make good. I do have to say she seems to become a beast pretty quick if you second seal her asap into Mage instead of wasting levels on Axe Fighter. Also sad they didn’t include Clanne (not sure if I missed you mentioning your thoughts on him), but he’s a sleeper meta imho. He’s like a budget version of magic Anna in some ways since people underestimate him because of his growths at face value. He has low magic growth and decent strength growth with high dex and speed. He’s lowkey a beast as a Mage Knight. While he doesn’t hit as hard per attack as someone like Ivy, he can double nearly everything with decent damage per hit with the mid tier tomes or Killing Edge and has one of the highest crit chance in my team. He can even one turn a lot of enemies with the heavy high tier tomes or Levin Sword. His speed is second highest on my team only behind Yunaka (and the class skill boosts it even higher) and he is tied with Ivy for Def. I find Ivy good for taking out super low Res/slow enemies, but most of the time she is only good for getting an enemy low enough that another slow ally can finish it off (Alfred usually for me). Definitely recommend giving Clanne a go, imma use him in my maddening run as well since he is probably the best character I’ve seen in a long time for the role of Mage Knight.
No. Anna is ass and no amount of reclassing is going to help. Especially on maddening. On normal and hard you can make any unit broken so it doesnt matter.
@@claire6452 Anna is the only unit the in the game that solves the biggest problem in a maddening run. The lack of gold midgame. That’s why she’s so valuable
@@mwm776 She doesn't ever even come close to an amount of luck that make using her worth wasting a slot. So no, she doesn't. You also have enough gold to do what's important : beat the game. If you didn't, that's on your poor decision making.
Anna has 2 Mag... but that's because she's on the axe fighter class. After chapter 8, you can buy 3 seconds seals from the item shop (alongside 1 master seal). You can get her Tome proficiency by getting rank 6 w/ Celica, which only costs 700 bond points. That will let you second seal her immediately into a Mage, which will get her Mag at 9 if you kept her as a level 5 axe fighter. The chapter 9 map drops a spirit dust, which can get her +2 mag. On top of that, as a Mage, Anna will have a 75% mag growth. Coupled with her base 50 speed, she will be one of your best mages, if not the best. It's a bit of a time investment, but Chapter 9 also has a ton of armor knights in the south side, so you can farm her 1 or 2 levels just on chapter 9. Give her Tiki, and she will be very tanky for a lower level unit and can do some good damage. Anna is absolutely S tier, maybe A tier due to the investment you have to put into her. But I think it's worth it.
Bro this article has to be written by a bot or someone that's never even touched the game, It talks about rerolling for characters? and how they will update the list whenever a "big balance patch" hits lmao. Also says that some characters are better for different game modes? Where did you even find this 💀
Framme is hella underrated for me. Chain guard has been instrumental for most of my strategies so far, and I think mine is just Str and Spd blessed, but I gave her a mega-refined/Marth-engraved scroll and she deletes so many units, especially all of the colorless units, while also taking a hit. With the Deirdre bond ring with renewal or Corrin’s sync skill, she can chain guard like every turn, or the Lucina skill too.
Anna only has 2 base magic BECAUSE she is in the axe fighter class line. That translates to a base 9 magic as a mage. Celine starts at level 5, with 9 magic and a 35% magic growth Anna starts at level 5, with 9 magic and a 50% magic growth - but in the wrong class. The moment she get reclassed, she is a better mage then Celine or Clanne. Yes, she is not the greatest while still an axe fighter, but I just gave her Micaiah and let her be my healer for a bit until I could reclass her.
I mentioned in the pinned comment that I may have been a bit harsh to Anna, I think the 5 levels and one of your early master seals is a big cost but she def could be worth it for sure. It's between her and Citriene and Ivy for the best mage in the game imo. I also personally think the Miciah ring is best for farming early SP for canter/vantage/etc on other units before you lose the inital rings.
It's hard for Anna to shine because even with the reclass, and hypothetically if she got magic every level up to level 10, she would still have less magic then Citrinne. Who's only weakness to Anna is having a slightly lower magic growth (which with the magic class makes it like 65 or 70 versus Anna 75 or 80) so she's a lot of work for a unit that's just okay. Probably a good healer though.
@@qtpie1144 Imo, she is about on Par with Citrinne, and both are miles above Celine and Clanne. Citrinne beats Anna in Magic, while Anna beats Citrinne in Speed. (50% speed growth in Sage vs 30% speed growth in Sage). At Sage 1, Citrinne will have 3 more magic, and Anna will have 1 more Speed At Sage 10, Citrinne will have 2 more magic, and Anna will have 3 more speed. At Sage 20, Citrinne will have 1 more magic, and Anna will have 5 more speed.
@@LAaronB10 yeah no argument. Clanne shouldn't be a mage with a 10% growth and Celine is carried by Ignis to function really. Both are good though. It be down to max stats who is the better mage but even then it still very comparable. Citrinne having the higher magic and Resistance cap to Anna having the higher dex and spd cap. Citrinne plays more of a nuke as doing upwards to 50+ damage a spell isnt hard for her late game. Anna is more of a glass cannon as she has negative mods in both def and res but good spd to usually double.
I actually ended up using both Anna and Citrinne Xd Anna got Byleth ring to max out her luck and use the insane +2 range Byleth's relic staff gives her in sage class. Raining 2 magic attacks at a time at 4 range is hilarious especially with the maxed luck generating gold. While Citrinne got Olwen's S rank bond ring which had dire thunder letting her double despite her atrocious speed using a thunder tome. Both of them could easily one round most enemies other than the bosses at long range giving most enemies no chance to counter lol. 3+ range nuking will never not be hilarious.
One strat I really enjoyed with Alcryst was the Leif ring. Give him a mini bow and while engaged, he can switch weapons in enemy phase, quadruple attack is great, and it’s a great way to open up his class options with all the proficiencies. Lyn ring too is great not only for the Astra attack but the shadow clones can act as meat shields and of course backup attack with him. Speedtaker means he’ll double like crazy. Diamant is an Awakening Hero when he upgrades, so yeah, they definitely placed him way WAY too low.
Diamant, Silver Greataxe, Great Aether rush into a ton of units. Takes zero damage, heals if he does, kills everything instantly. Love him so much tbh.
So I'm playing on Hard and it actually isn't a lot of effort to get Anna's magic up because her natural growth of magic will happen as an Axe User naturally since it takes awhile for Second Seals to come into play. By the time I had my first Second Seal on my Hard Mode playthrough I had like 10 magic which isn't the best, but with her magic growth as good as it was I'm at like Chapter 12 I think and she is doing just fine.
28:20 Imo Lapis is a monstrous unit with Marth's avoid skill and during the Ring switch, she is insane with Lyn as the spd and clone's avoid makes her incredibly good at stalling and helping out. In my playthrough I made her a Paladin that rose her Res and she was pretty bulky for a avoid tank without major investment. I'd put her around solid A as a spd stat like that you cannot go wrong, there's a lot of classes lacking Res but give lots of Strength or Magic that making her a Mage or Wyvern would probably be amazing. I'm making her a Mage in my Maddening run and will test out if she's this incredibly good :)
23:55 Absolutely yes. Yunaka has some hella fun Crit builds. Upgrade the Peshkatz. Slap on an engraving with high Crit (Fates gives the highest Crit rate). Slap her on a terrain tile and watch the world burn. I have easily reached 80% Crit rate for her in game. It can definitely be pushed higher with Wrath, or the Seliph ring. Take her off of thief and you can give her a killing edge and upgrade that with fates stuff too. Reaching 100% Crit is definitely doable. Overall a really damn fun build for her. I can’t suggest it enough.
ok yeah this video already starts great. putting the dancer, the unit with the busted stat growths, and my 100% crit rate monster all in c tier. this list really doesnt know much.
Lapis and Anna are my Goats on my Hard classic play through. Anna as a sage and Lapis as a wyvern knight. And because I enjoy being wacky, Hortensia as a Thief c:
Anna’s magic jumps from 2 to 9 or 10 when you reclass into mage, leaving her strength at 2 instead, so she’s pretty fine for being level 5, even on maddening. Certainly passable enough to wait for her ridiculous bases to kick in (she doesn’t need to be level 10 to reclass)
Sure but if you second seal her into a mage before promoting her, she resets to level 1 so you're essentially delaying her promotion by 5 levels. That's a death sentence on maddening unless you're going to grind with skirmishes / ring exploits
@@leonardzein5056 Anna is probably one of the better uses of Micaiah. Since Jean (the one other growth unit that needs babying that's worth in the long term) also has staff access so he can level up to 10 relatively easily. EXP with Great Sacrifice or regular healing seems to be on parity with other difficulties or at least not nerfed as noticeably.
My madding mode Eite was popping at least. Gave her canto and the Claude S ring that gives bow range +1 at max HP. She one shots fliers and with the brave bow engraved with Ike kills most things that are not armors or great knight.
anna personally was super easy to level up on maddening if you save jean's paralogue. since you have framme as a healer anyways there's no reason at all not to. you can give her micaiah's ring, and spam heal on a villager until you reach level 10 in just one chapter, i repeated this for jean and both got an insane amount of levels for maybe 2k gold worth of healing staves
so im playing on hard mode and anna is very easy to get going, lvl her up to 10 ( arena fights 3x help alot) then promote her to an advanced class, second seal her to sage. it really doesnt take much effort.
Currently in my hard run, Lapis has over 20 DEF and I do not have Goldmary yet. I made her a sword armor since I wasn't using Louis or Jade. She's currently level 12 Armor with 23 DEF and 16 SPD. 16 SPEED! On am armor, that's been carrying me since she doubles almost any axe unit and all armors with Armorslayer by chapter 15.
I can see Anna being kinda sorta S tier in the long run due to luck stacking via Byleth and/or Tiki rings with her ability. Only because gold is so scarce though.
Yeah as soon as you shit on anna i had geard enough. Not cuz i love anna in particular but it showed a clear misunderstanding of how bases and reclassing actually works in this and how little time it takes her to dominate as a mage. If i had to guess you didnt even try if yourself
I’ve been using Anna and they’ve been really helpful as an axe warrior with an axe and bows. Passive money gain is just really nice and she does good damage. Granted I’ve never played FE before and I’m on casual normal mode
Anna isn't the best unit in terms of damage but she's arguably the best because gold in this game is hell to get ahold of without cheating and setting your switch clock forward and even with that cheat I feel like Anna gives me you can get anywhere from 5-12k a paralogue depending on how lucky you are compared to palty 1-5k a clear....and that's assuming you even get a mob to drop gold or having training for the 1-5k more often you are getting nothing without anna.
Anna is actually one of the strongest mages, she has the highest magic gain when she levels up. But yeah if you're playing on the casual normal it doesn't make a difference just have fun with it, but if you ever try maddening she really makes a difference as a mage.
These game magazine “reporters” play the game once on the easiest mode and on casual (or not at all). There’s nothing wrong, btw, with playing on those settings. You do you. But for character tier lists the bare minimum you should be playing on is hard, imo. Also, the best unit in this game is Kagestu. Reclass him into a sword/axe Wyvern knight. Give him milling edge, killer axe, tomahawk, and armor slayer sword or hammer. You’re welcome.
Halfway through the vid (at work) and I really agree with the Yunaka take. She carries and is so unbelievably helpful until Chapter 12 and later where she steadily drops in quality and shocking other units just surpass her. Idk if we're both unlucky as I looked at her stats and she is great. Though what I dislike is how squishy she is as that defense stats becomes a huge pain later on when he won't be able to dodge as much as she used to. Maybe Wolf class pulls her down and she's better off always a thief, idk.
Random thoughts from one hard playthrough and 2/3 of a maddening playthrough. Louis, Chloe, Yunaka, Ivy, and Kagetsu have been great, easy A tiers for me. Yunaka might even be S if you play with DLC because she can solo Tiki's paralogue on maddening as soon as you get her getting a ton of SP and over leveling. Anna is probably A too. Classing her to mage immediately basically fixes her base magic. It does delay her promotion to effective 15, but even before promotion she was a better mage than Clanne/Celine/Citrine. Celine, Alfred, Fogado, and Timerra ended up pretty mediocre for me. Maybe I just got bad level ups or maybe I just really dislike their Dex% abilities as they never work when needed. Diamant seems worse than Kagetsu, so I felt he couldn't justify being a third sword guy on the team, though I didn't do much reclassing so maybe that would help. I also liked Jade's stats, she doesn't have the insane def Louis has but the better res and spd makes her more of an all rounder. Unfortunately, she has innate axes instead of spears so she couldn't wield the Brionac as a general which I found to be a significant negative. Again, maybe she just needs a different class but I was mostly sticking with default classes.
Diamant being worse than Kagetsu doesn't mean that much when literally everyone is worse than Kagetsu. Diamant on promotion to Successeur/Hero ended up being one of my best axe users, they seem to be on a premium in this game if you don't swap peoples' classes because not too many have the Bld to wield the weapons without penalties (apart from Boucheron who is an interesting case).
Didnt reclass anna into mage class bc i wasnt aware in a blind run about her magic growth, but i put in the investment and benched her later, seeing panette as the worst in the game is actually crazy shes totally bonkers lol
rather then level Anna up to 10 you can reclass her as soon as second seals are available, changing her class to mage bumps her base magic stat up from 2 to 10.
That's a waste. If you do that then you have to level her all the way back up to 10 before you can use a master seal and she'll be in a weaker basic class at the midpoint of the game with worse growths because it's not an advanced class. Getting her up to level 10 as an axe fighter is incredibly easy. Just use an advanced seal and then second seal to sage. She'll be your best mage from then on.
Celine is one of the only units who can viably use the Levin sword. But the only time you need a Levin sword is vs Armored enemies, and you have armorslayer for that. Flame Lance on the other hand, is super solid. It's the only Lance that's viable against armor.
Eh, any unit with good magic can reclass into a mage knight with swords if you want. Also on Maddening mode, armor slayers are garbage, the armored units have such high defense that you aren't doing much damage even with effective weaponry, you have to target their resistance. Also Levin sword is useful against other things that happen to have less resistance than defense anyway like Wyvern knights and having a 1-2 range option on a swordmaster who normally can't have one is useful for chain attacks even if they have low magic.
I found that armor slayers are terrible. At most they let my units chunk an enemy down. Even with forge. Levin Sword does the job better without taking a massive hit in return.
Jean turned out amazing for me! I gave him avoid skills from marth and class promoted to high priest. He dodges practically everything. His magic stats are surprisingly nice, like probably the highest out of all my characters. He hits like a truck and doubles. Then later game I handed him Lucina so he can do chain attack damage. Really solid
Jean is the most flexible unit in your army. Due to how his personal skill works, he can pretty much excell no matter what you make him. Swordmaster, Sage, General, you name it, Jean does it. The problem on Maddening is the lower EXP gain and the very high Skirmish difficulty, making leveling up a trainee unit a complete slog. On Normal/Hard it doesn't take long for Jean to become one of your best units. It's just that he starts in arguably one of the worst classes for his personal skill, though he's also one of the only characters who can actually make Martial Master work.
i would argue anna is only good because of the perk she got. I was starved for gold my whole playthrough on maddening didnt pick her though. kagetsu was S tier for me i paired him with eirika he would sweep entire armies on maddening and he basically soloed the last boss. Louis is the best diver with sigurd honestly, alfred fell off for me. Bro just said the lucina ring sucks oml, 90% chance to proc her shield. Pairing that with pannette who is initiall squishy af she can sweep a lot of units. It is also a amazing aoe shield so choke points allow this skill to really be appreciated. I abused this skill so much and saved louis from dieing to mages countless times. Pair alcryst with lyn and see how fast you change your perspective. he gets luna procs with astra storm ive sniped so many mages that would kill louis or fliers who were in a annoying spot. i paired diamant with ike and he was a solid tank like louis but could also tank mages and not get doubled. i Used framme with byleth for the amazing dance and would purposefully setup seadall with the 4 box dance. It made things 100x easier having 3 dances in 1 turn. Byleth is probably the best emblem ring solely because of the 4 person dance.
Anna's 50% Mag / 50% Skl / 50% Spd _character_ growths count for a lot if you can get her off the ground, it just depends if you feel she's worth the effort. I've had a lot of success with her. In terms of Emblems, I feel as though the most broken ones are like... Corrin, Byleth, Lyn, Ike and situationally Lucina. The DLC ones are pretty strong too, but Corrin has Draconic Hex, Dreadful Aura and creating fog terrain. Byleth has Goddess Dance. Lyn has clones, Speedtaker/Alacrity + Mulagir. Ike is just Ike. And Lucina can make the impossible possible because of Bonded Shield as you say, it's like Chain Guard on steroids. Dual Guard can even block ballistae.
i personally used anna as an axe user until like chapter 18 and she was very good, she one rounded a lot of enemies (i should say i'm playing on hard) and then i changed her into a hero and now i have her use the levin sword and micaiah ring and also the FEH sword if i need physical damage and she's quite good, only problem i have with her is that her defense sucks, she only has 10 defense at chapter 22
With Anna it wasn't so difficult to get her to lvl 10, using the master seal first then the second seal and reclassing her to Sage not mage, hence not much work required. Plus her sage class is broken beyond wonders, also give her Tiki and she's literally earning money left and right
Diamant is my team's ace, slap that Ike ring on him, let him tank damage with Great Aether, and one-shot most units in the game. I don't think I can remove him from any of my teams moving forward so seeing him at C tier is maddening lol
Panette is easily S+++ tier. She obliterates everything. Bad match-up? Not for Panette. Boss? Let Panette take up one of those entire revival stone health bars by herself. Enemy 2 squares away? No worries, nuclear Panette throws a Tomahawk warhead directly onto foreheads. You can build her to crit everything, but you literally don't even need to. Panette is all powerful anyway. Enemy group tries to gank our all-seeing, all-powerful Panette? Just throw on Vantage and watch as Panette lays waste to the entire goddamn playing field before they even get a chance. Anyway, you get the point. Panette is God, Panette is life.
@@JBRChannel for sure! I only found out today inherited skills on rings don’t apply to wearers, just sync skills. Really changed who I thought should wear what lol
I can confirm jade as a wyvern knight is my best unit the axe pegagasus level give her speed and res when she becomes w. Knight she have the same amount of def/res and good speed. Give her Ike and she can tank the world.
Diamant is S for me because of Sol. It’s completely nuts for tanking in his advanced class. For he he just ranks forever and heals up any damage he might take. Only weakness is medium Res…..but I’m at chapter 22 and he has like 25 res so he can tank a hit.
Ngl, zelkov with the Lyn ring kills most things before the enemy can counter and the can get hit he usually dodges, kinda really good. Also my Goldman as a wyvern knight is pretty good, like top 5 of my units because of her good bulk with lucina ring on hard difficulty. I do believe with time basically every unit can be good
No one's talking about him because he's obviously busted from the moment you get him. There's just not much interesting to talk about there. Put him in any physical class and he'll excel.
I thought anna was okay - maybe b tier, but definitely not c. with mag proficiency she can reclass at base level and she shines with a little investment, i was able to class upgrade her by chp 11
@@FennelRPG 30 spd is lower than Anna but not that low. Its patachable and her dex growth is low but base holds up. He res also makes her an easy mage tank.
Regarding Goldmary, I think she's a really good user of the Leif ring. She immediately can make use of the entire weapon triangle when you factor in Leif's Killer Axe, and unlike Lapis (the only other natural promotion into sword/lance Hero) she can take a hit. I actually replaced my Timerra with Goldmary since Diamant is my Ike user. Lapis is great as an unkillable evade tank if you give her a +40 evade engraved sword. Can't ever take that sword off though lol. Edit: Also, at least on Hard, Jean is absolutely insane as a martial master. Being able to level the "Villager" unit with a staff is pretty clutch, I am on Chapter 18 and my Jean hits most things for ~20 x4 damage, plus has staves and chain guard for utility. The way the villager passive works in this game is supposedly "rolling with advantage" from what I read, which would mean his growths are all effectively between 51 and 80 percent.
I think Jean's passive doubles class specific growth rates, so he ends up being pretty good no matter what you use him as. I went with Royal Knight and by the end of the game on Maddening, he has the highest stat total out of all units I'm using. He's not the strongest, but he's versatile (competent with both physical attacks and Flame Lance for magic - despite the weight - and staff usage). He is also decently bulky with both Def and Res. Too bad arts are nearly worthless on Maddening (tinks everywhere) but there are ways around it.
I ended up putting Lapis in the great knight class and let me tell you that lead me down a strange journey of watching majority of the enemies not even being able to damage her. I am currently on level 23 and her defense is 46 so she can indeed get a lot of defense if put into the right class.
you do know that anna gets strength and magic inverted when she changes to mage so saying she has 2 base magic is straight up wrong. also is alfred really good? he felt like abad unit when he came and also couldn't keep up
- Alfred not in bottom tier - Kagetsu not in S - Boucheron in the same tier as Louis and _Yunaka_ - Bunet in S?! - Diamant in C? - Jean?? - Zelkov??? - SEADALL???? What is this person thinking?
I'mma go ahead and flame you in the comments for the your anna opinion, her magic isn't what matters, it's her luck. maximize her personal skill and her decent magic growth by getting her into high priest ASAP, and watch her solo maps. now, I'm not gonna say the article has her in S tier for the right reasons, but it is absolutely where she belongs, at least below maddening difficulty where you can reliably use skirmishes to grind out some gold.
Okay, this is like the third time I've seen people say Alear is good. I'm playing on Maddening mode and he's absolutely dogshit. I'm on chapter 20 and he's easily my worst unit. He can't take a hit, he's not covert so he can't reliably dodge, his damage is overall quite low (Even though I always get +3 strength from push-ups), 1 range-locked because I'm not using reclassing, and contributes very little other than his personal skill. Most of the bonuses from dragon type aren't worth being his shitty sword-locked class (a lot of them are just a worse version of what another class type gets), at least swordmasters can chain attack which is amazing especially with dual assist. I wonder if most people give his statboosters because he's the main character and then think he's good because they forgot how much they invested in him. He was solid in the early game but hasn't mattered at all ever since chapter 11.
I really enjoyed this video I beat hard mode and I'm on chapter 8 of my maddening run. I disagree slightly with the celine in B tier argument. I think shes an A tier unit beause she is the only mage that one rounds consistently before all the rings are lost. Canne's magic is too low and Citrine's joins with 10 base speed so she will only one round armor knights. Celine has similar speed to clanne and even though she has a lot less magic than citrine she still has enough to one round(especially with Bolganone). After chapter 10 she falls off a bit but I still think shes serviceable
Céline has a strong early game but is destined for the bench later on unless you use her as Dire Thunder / staffbot imo. Shame because I do like her, and she at least does better than her brother.
@@Harkz0r yeah she is much worse on maddening mode. Now that I’m on chapter 20 she barely does any chip damage to anything that isn’t an armor knight. I could still see her in A tier for her great early game because there are some units in this game that don’t even have that but I’m settling on B tier for now
Not even a couple minutes in and gotta come here. Anna isn't S but definitely A tier. Her passive may seem meh but gold is a precious resource in this game, especially in Maddening. Also, sure her early game is a little weaker because you have to change her to magic, but her late game is busted. Easily the strongest magic use. And late game matters a lot. Chloe is 100% S tier. Easily one of the best units. Fogado comes in as the strongest bow user in Maddening in the first playthrough since stats are set. Also, Maddening Set Growths and Maddening Random Growths are 2 very different tier lists. This list definitely has Hard or Maddening Set Growths in mind. Though there are a few questionable placements. I don't like Dancers in FE but they are always S tier.
I think this was a shit list. Panette is easily an S tier unit. I feel that the author of that tier list never really botherd with crit mechanics. The high risk high reward effect. She only needs Vantage and she just wrecks.. Best unit for me aside from Alear in my maddening run. Diamant as you said is easily one of the best combat units availlable. He is tanky, speedy and I think that S in Swords and A in axes is the best weapon combination availlable in the whole game. You can give him the Brave Axe and the later swords like Georgis and Caladog, he is just amazing. The only unit I mostly agreed on was Kagetsu on B. He is one heck of an unit, but the game is actually the reason why he isnt A or S tier even. As Alear and Diamant are already your swordy guys and should not be replaced at all. And to me he truely shinies when Marth is finally back which is kinda late game. So due a bit competition with the main char and having not the right emblem availlable for him.. makes him a solid and strong B tier unit. A even..
Hard disagree on Anna because of the DLC. She is unstoppable gold printer with the Tiki. Her only downside is you have spend 3-4 chapters baby sitting her but after that she takes off and will easily be your best unit.
What is the site he is using to see like everything about a character. I just beat the game on hard and I want to try maddening and I think it would really help making my team comp, Thanks
In my opinion Alfred stood out as the worst unit for me, I couldn’t find a niche for him. He was way too slow and could not take a hit or deal significant damage.
Alcryst and Louis are hard carrying my maddening run. MC isn’t S tier for me, basically a buff bot at this point. Alfred fell off in the midgame for me with no rings. Also Kagetsu and ivy do mega damage and Zelkov is a crazy good dodge tank. Shame AI ignores him when they can’t hit him 😢 So basically all the lower tier units are doing really well for me
The Lucina Ring is very great literally broken. Her Skill to guard 4 units all at once with 100% proc rate on cavalry and 90% on other units make it one of the best rush in and tank on maddening mode. Anyways this article is awful in rankings.
Amber isn't even on this list lmao. On maddening he oneshots almost all boss HP bars with Engage attacks, even late game with Longbow/Thunder/Thoron Draconic Hex support.
Tier list is pointless, cuz tbf tho while there have been some dog shit choices for the characters in engage like making etie an archer, I think even the worst characters can be reworked to not suck. Etie is a mess and it's torture to fix it because of her low hp at the start cuz IS in their infinite wisdom decided the unit with a personal skill that wants her to heal should be the one that's an archer it makes no sense. And hell even from a story perspective Etie's class makes zero sense considering she talks about muscles all the time, she would of been axe fighter or axe flier. Now just because I am complaining about etie's starter class doesn't mean she's actually a bad unit, it takes alot of work but you can fix it later reclassing her and making her more tanky.
Dancers used properly are a free extra turn for your best unit for the current situation. They're like a Ditto, only better because you can move further and do more than you normally can. IMO, under no circumstances are dancers bad unless the players are also bad. And you can't say that Emblem Byleth makes dancers less necessary because you only get one of those per engage. And it's not as though you can't include Seadall in the goddess dance, so he can dance twice in the turn. Combine this with using the 3H emblem engage attack next to Byleth, and also using the Raging Storm combat art and you can pull off some real shenanigans. Have turned the tide of battles on Maddening killing multiple health bars of bosses just due to all the extra turns.
Man, imagine ranking dancers as better than C tier, JBR you are good at fire emblem, but you should stop using dancers, they do no damage and can't fight, they suck
They’re always really good because even when they have sucked with attacking, their strength lies in basically giving your strong units extra attacks. They indirectly deal damage by letting other people attack again, so if you have a busted unit, the dancer can let them kill twice as many enemies, it’s so great. Def would recommend giving him a try when you get him
Why field mid/bad unit when my dancer can simply allow me to use better units more, or have more free movements around the map? Dancers are amazing lol.
the list is flat out horse s h i t LMAO There are a bunch of C tier characters that are objectively good Diamant is an absolute beast Jade is also incredibly good Jean has potential (i think is called expertise but is basically potential) Seadall is a dancer, and you were spot on about dancers being fantastic in all games EVEN WHEN they don't have the ability to fight which seadall has so not only is seadall a dancer but is also one of the better versions of a dancer. Framme for me was also fantastic but she was rolling with the Tiki ring so I cant' say for sure she's good or if Tiki ring made her good. Also you are spot on about Anna. Sure her magic growth is fine but for her to be good u'd need to grind which is still sort of possible in maddening and easily doable in lower difficulties but otherwise she's not even remotely close to S tier. Furthermore if you grind to make anna good there's no way Mauvier is good as well because if you grind for anna u gonna have lots of characters that are also heavily powered up which will make Mauvier a chump by the time he joins Regarding Anna even if you make anna a Sage at level 10 she will still take a while to get going she will get if im not mistaking 4-5 magic from sage promotion + another 2-3 magic from the 5 levels needed to reach level 10 for promotion so she'd be somewhere around 10 magic at level 1 sage. with 80% magic growth that you have as sage she should get 16 magic points on average in 20 levels so at level 20 sage she'd be at 26 magic To put things in perspective why 26 magic is not that special for a unit with 80% growth in that stat let's compare louis. My louis at level 10 general had 38-40 defense (i dont' remember exactly) and this was with me making the mistake of leveling Louis as armor knight all the way to 20 before reclassing to general. I disagree with you heavily tho on the goldmary stance. On my first playthrough (the hard playthrough) i grinded quite a bit and she still easily found a way into the team but you aren't wrong about Lapis she's just a worse version of goldmary and is not remotely comparable to Goldmary. I did use Lapis cuz I liked her cute character design but she's far from a good unit Also big props for mentioned how busted you can combo using byleth + dancer making your best unit act up to 4 times in the same turn The only thing that makes me insanely mad about Seadall is that is a male dancer WTF who the fk was the cretin who decided male dancer is a good idea.
The comments on this video are gonna be fun :)
Take just about anything I say in this video with a grain of salt, game hasn't been out too long so Im sure they're some things I got wrong, Anna for one is a unit thats probably better then I conveyed having pretty survicable base stats when reclassing but still has to go thru 5 levels and a master seal to be a good (magic) unit.
So TLDR; I may be wrong but I want to hear all your opinions just be respectful plz luve you all mwah ❤
When I first saw Anna I totally agreed with you, she looked like a rough character to make good. I do have to say she seems to become a beast pretty quick if you second seal her asap into Mage instead of wasting levels on Axe Fighter.
Also sad they didn’t include Clanne (not sure if I missed you mentioning your thoughts on him), but he’s a sleeper meta imho. He’s like a budget version of magic Anna in some ways since people underestimate him because of his growths at face value. He has low magic growth and decent strength growth with high dex and speed. He’s lowkey a beast as a Mage Knight. While he doesn’t hit as hard per attack as someone like Ivy, he can double nearly everything with decent damage per hit with the mid tier tomes or Killing Edge and has one of the highest crit chance in my team. He can even one turn a lot of enemies with the heavy high tier tomes or Levin Sword. His speed is second highest on my team only behind Yunaka (and the class skill boosts it even higher) and he is tied with Ivy for Def. I find Ivy good for taking out super low Res/slow enemies, but most of the time she is only good for getting an enemy low enough that another slow ally can finish it off (Alfred usually for me). Definitely recommend giving Clanne a go, imma use him in my maddening run as well since he is probably the best character I’ve seen in a long time for the role of Mage Knight.
No. Anna is ass and no amount of reclassing is going to help. Especially on maddening. On normal and hard you can make any unit broken so it doesnt matter.
@@claire6452 Anna is the only unit the in the game that solves the biggest problem in a maddening run. The lack of gold midgame. That’s why she’s so valuable
@@mwm776 She doesn't ever even come close to an amount of luck that make using her worth wasting a slot. So no, she doesn't. You also have enough gold to do what's important : beat the game. If you didn't, that's on your poor decision making.
Anna has 2 Mag... but that's because she's on the axe fighter class.
After chapter 8, you can buy 3 seconds seals from the item shop (alongside 1 master seal). You can get her Tome proficiency by getting rank 6 w/ Celica, which only costs 700 bond points. That will let you second seal her immediately into a Mage, which will get her Mag at 9 if you kept her as a level 5 axe fighter. The chapter 9 map drops a spirit dust, which can get her +2 mag. On top of that, as a Mage, Anna will have a 75% mag growth. Coupled with her base 50 speed, she will be one of your best mages, if not the best.
It's a bit of a time investment, but Chapter 9 also has a ton of armor knights in the south side, so you can farm her 1 or 2 levels just on chapter 9. Give her Tiki, and she will be very tanky for a lower level unit and can do some good damage.
Anna is absolutely S tier, maybe A tier due to the investment you have to put into her. But I think it's worth it.
Bro this article has to be written by a bot or someone that's never even touched the game, It talks about rerolling for characters? and how they will update the list whenever a "big balance patch" hits lmao. Also says that some characters are better for different game modes? Where did you even find this 💀
I was going to do my own tier list video so I googled "fire emblem engage tier list..."
This list has to be a bot or rage bait, it seems so out of left field 😂
Sounds like the just copy pasted a heroes or Genshin tier list format.
ohio tier list
Framme is hella underrated for me. Chain guard has been instrumental for most of my strategies so far, and I think mine is just Str and Spd blessed, but I gave her a mega-refined/Marth-engraved scroll and she deletes so many units, especially all of the colorless units, while also taking a hit. With the Deirdre bond ring with renewal or Corrin’s sync skill, she can chain guard like every turn, or the Lucina skill too.
Anna only has 2 base magic BECAUSE she is in the axe fighter class line. That translates to a base 9 magic as a mage.
Celine starts at level 5, with 9 magic and a 35% magic growth
Anna starts at level 5, with 9 magic and a 50% magic growth - but in the wrong class.
The moment she get reclassed, she is a better mage then Celine or Clanne. Yes, she is not the greatest while still an axe fighter, but I just gave her Micaiah and let her be my healer for a bit until I could reclass her.
I mentioned in the pinned comment that I may have been a bit harsh to Anna, I think the 5 levels and one of your early master seals is a big cost but she def could be worth it for sure. It's between her and Citriene and Ivy for the best mage in the game imo.
I also personally think the Miciah ring is best for farming early SP for canter/vantage/etc on other units before you lose the inital rings.
It's hard for Anna to shine because even with the reclass, and hypothetically if she got magic every level up to level 10, she would still have less magic then Citrinne. Who's only weakness to Anna is having a slightly lower magic growth (which with the magic class makes it like 65 or 70 versus Anna 75 or 80) so she's a lot of work for a unit that's just okay. Probably a good healer though.
@@qtpie1144 Imo, she is about on Par with Citrinne, and both are miles above Celine and Clanne.
Citrinne beats Anna in Magic, while Anna beats Citrinne in Speed. (50% speed growth in Sage vs 30% speed growth in Sage).
At Sage 1, Citrinne will have 3 more magic, and Anna will have 1 more Speed
At Sage 10, Citrinne will have 2 more magic, and Anna will have 3 more speed.
At Sage 20, Citrinne will have 1 more magic, and Anna will have 5 more speed.
@@LAaronB10 yeah no argument. Clanne shouldn't be a mage with a 10% growth and Celine is carried by Ignis to function really.
Both are good though. It be down to max stats who is the better mage but even then it still very comparable. Citrinne having the higher magic and Resistance cap to Anna having the higher dex and spd cap. Citrinne plays more of a nuke as doing upwards to 50+ damage a spell isnt hard for her late game. Anna is more of a glass cannon as she has negative mods in both def and res but good spd to usually double.
I actually ended up using both Anna and Citrinne Xd Anna got Byleth ring to max out her luck and use the insane +2 range Byleth's relic staff gives her in sage class. Raining 2 magic attacks at a time at 4 range is hilarious especially with the maxed luck generating gold. While Citrinne got Olwen's S rank bond ring which had dire thunder letting her double despite her atrocious speed using a thunder tome. Both of them could easily one round most enemies other than the bosses at long range giving most enemies no chance to counter lol. 3+ range nuking will never not be hilarious.
One strat I really enjoyed with Alcryst was the Leif ring. Give him a mini bow and while engaged, he can switch weapons in enemy phase, quadruple attack is great, and it’s a great way to open up his class options with all the proficiencies. Lyn ring too is great not only for the Astra attack but the shadow clones can act as meat shields and of course backup attack with him. Speedtaker means he’ll double like crazy.
Diamant is an Awakening Hero when he upgrades, so yeah, they definitely placed him way WAY too low.
Diamant, Silver Greataxe, Great Aether rush into a ton of units. Takes zero damage, heals if he does, kills everything instantly. Love him so much tbh.
alcryst is so good with luna because of how high his dex was for me that was the only reason i chose him over fogado
Him with Lyn or Marth is insane with the multihits and Luna procks.
@@diegocorral8787 absolutely. the brodia brothers were the best royals easily in my opinion
@@jackproffit4127 Honestly all of Brodia are goated, none have left me down and put in work.
So I'm playing on Hard and it actually isn't a lot of effort to get Anna's magic up because her natural growth of magic will happen as an Axe User naturally since it takes awhile for Second Seals to come into play. By the time I had my first Second Seal on my Hard Mode playthrough I had like 10 magic which isn't the best, but with her magic growth as good as it was I'm at like Chapter 12 I think and she is doing just fine.
28:20 Imo Lapis is a monstrous unit with Marth's avoid skill and during the Ring switch, she is insane with Lyn as the spd and clone's avoid makes her incredibly good at stalling and helping out.
In my playthrough I made her a Paladin that rose her Res and she was pretty bulky for a avoid tank without major investment.
I'd put her around solid A as a spd stat like that you cannot go wrong, there's a lot of classes lacking Res but give lots of Strength or Magic that making her a Mage or Wyvern would probably be amazing. I'm making her a Mage in my Maddening run and will test out if she's this incredibly good :)
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Absolutely yes. Yunaka has some hella fun Crit builds. Upgrade the Peshkatz. Slap on an engraving with high Crit (Fates gives the highest Crit rate). Slap her on a terrain tile and watch the world burn.
I have easily reached 80% Crit rate for her in game. It can definitely be pushed higher with Wrath, or the Seliph ring. Take her off of thief and you can give her a killing edge and upgrade that with fates stuff too. Reaching 100% Crit is definitely doable. Overall a really damn fun build for her. I can’t suggest it enough.
ok yeah this video already starts great. putting the dancer, the unit with the busted stat growths, and my 100% crit rate monster all in c tier. this list really doesnt know much.
Lapis and Anna are my Goats on my Hard classic play through. Anna as a sage and Lapis as a wyvern knight. And because I enjoy being wacky, Hortensia as a Thief c:
Anna’s magic jumps from 2 to 9 or 10 when you reclass into mage, leaving her strength at 2 instead, so she’s pretty fine for being level 5, even on maddening. Certainly passable enough to wait for her ridiculous bases to kick in (she doesn’t need to be level 10 to reclass)
Sure but if you second seal her into a mage before promoting her, she resets to level 1 so you're essentially delaying her promotion by 5 levels. That's a death sentence on maddening unless you're going to grind with skirmishes / ring exploits
@@leonardzein5056 you can promote then second seal
@@matrixground yeah but then u have to suffer through 5 levels of her being a useless fighter lol, and exp gain is slooowww on maddening
@@leonardzein5056 Anna is probably one of the better uses of Micaiah. Since Jean (the one other growth unit that needs babying that's worth in the long term) also has staff access so he can level up to 10 relatively easily. EXP with Great Sacrifice or regular healing seems to be on parity with other difficulties or at least not nerfed as noticeably.
Anna was one of the easiest and quickest units to lvl up on hard so I have to disagree with that “super long term” quote.
My madding mode Eite was popping at least. Gave her canto and the Claude S ring that gives bow range +1 at max HP. She one shots fliers and with the brave bow engraved with Ike kills most things that are not armors or great knight.
Love the title 👀👀
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I had Diamant with Ike Ring solo a skirmish. Great Aether+Sol is pretty nuts lmao. Love this man.
anna personally was super easy to level up on maddening if you save jean's paralogue. since you have framme as a healer anyways there's no reason at all not to. you can give her micaiah's ring, and spam heal on a villager until you reach level 10 in just one chapter, i repeated this for jean and both got an insane amount of levels for maybe 2k gold worth of healing staves
so im playing on hard mode and anna is very easy to get going, lvl her up to 10 ( arena fights 3x help alot) then promote her to an advanced class, second seal her to sage. it really doesnt take much effort.
Currently in my hard run, Lapis has over 20 DEF and I do not have Goldmary yet. I made her a sword armor since I wasn't using Louis or Jade. She's currently level 12 Armor with 23 DEF and 16 SPD. 16 SPEED! On am armor, that's been carrying me since she doubles almost any axe unit and all armors with Armorslayer by chapter 15.
Ivy at B is crazy she was so bulky for me. I gave her byleths ring and she gained levels like crazy
I have celine the tiki bracelet and didn’t realise that it increased growths and by the end of the game her total stats were like 225
I can see Anna being kinda sorta S tier in the long run due to luck stacking via Byleth and/or Tiki rings with her ability. Only because gold is so scarce though.
especially reclassed as a high priest for that 70% luck growth and 80% magic
Yeah as soon as you shit on anna i had geard enough. Not cuz i love anna in particular but it showed a clear misunderstanding of how bases and reclassing actually works in this and how little time it takes her to dominate as a mage. If i had to guess you didnt even try if yourself
I’ve been using Anna and they’ve been really helpful as an axe warrior with an axe and bows. Passive money gain is just really nice and she does good damage. Granted I’ve never played FE before and I’m on casual normal mode
Anna isn't the best unit in terms of damage but she's arguably the best because gold in this game is hell to get ahold of without cheating and setting your switch clock forward and even with that cheat I feel like Anna gives me you can get anywhere from 5-12k a paralogue depending on how lucky you are compared to palty 1-5k a clear....and that's assuming you even get a mob to drop gold or having training for the 1-5k more often you are getting nothing without anna.
Anna is actually one of the strongest mages, she has the highest magic gain when she levels up. But yeah if you're playing on the casual normal it doesn't make a difference just have fun with it, but if you ever try maddening she really makes a difference as a mage.
Im in chapter 19 Hard and Diamant with Ike is my GOAT they massacred my boy in this tier list 😤
These game magazine “reporters” play the game once on the easiest mode and on casual (or not at all).
There’s nothing wrong, btw, with playing on those settings. You do you. But for character tier lists the bare minimum you should be playing on is hard, imo.
Also, the best unit in this game is Kagestu. Reclass him into a sword/axe Wyvern knight. Give him milling edge, killer axe, tomahawk, and armor slayer sword or hammer. You’re welcome.
Halfway through the vid (at work) and I really agree with the Yunaka take. She carries and is so unbelievably helpful until Chapter 12 and later where she steadily drops in quality and shocking other units just surpass her.
Idk if we're both unlucky as I looked at her stats and she is great. Though what I dislike is how squishy she is as that defense stats becomes a huge pain later on when he won't be able to dodge as much as she used to. Maybe Wolf class pulls her down and she's better off always a thief, idk.
Random thoughts from one hard playthrough and 2/3 of a maddening playthrough. Louis, Chloe, Yunaka, Ivy, and Kagetsu have been great, easy A tiers for me. Yunaka might even be S if you play with DLC because she can solo Tiki's paralogue on maddening as soon as you get her getting a ton of SP and over leveling.
Anna is probably A too. Classing her to mage immediately basically fixes her base magic. It does delay her promotion to effective 15, but even before promotion she was a better mage than Clanne/Celine/Citrine.
Celine, Alfred, Fogado, and Timerra ended up pretty mediocre for me. Maybe I just got bad level ups or maybe I just really dislike their Dex% abilities as they never work when needed.
Diamant seems worse than Kagetsu, so I felt he couldn't justify being a third sword guy on the team, though I didn't do much reclassing so maybe that would help.
I also liked Jade's stats, she doesn't have the insane def Louis has but the better res and spd makes her more of an all rounder. Unfortunately, she has innate axes instead of spears so she couldn't wield the Brionac as a general which I found to be a significant negative. Again, maybe she just needs a different class but I was mostly sticking with default classes.
Diamant being worse than Kagetsu doesn't mean that much when literally everyone is worse than Kagetsu. Diamant on promotion to Successeur/Hero ended up being one of my best axe users, they seem to be on a premium in this game if you don't swap peoples' classes because not too many have the Bld to wield the weapons without penalties (apart from Boucheron who is an interesting case).
Didnt reclass anna into mage class bc i wasnt aware in a blind run about her magic growth, but i put in the investment and benched her later, seeing panette as the worst in the game is actually crazy shes totally bonkers lol
We just gonna ignore how my boy Clanne wasn't on the tier list at all lmao?
That’s makes three now! Rip Vander and Amber…
rather then level Anna up to 10 you can reclass her as soon as second seals are available, changing her class to mage bumps her base magic stat up from 2 to 10.
That's a waste. If you do that then you have to level her all the way back up to 10 before you can use a master seal and she'll be in a weaker basic class at the midpoint of the game with worse growths because it's not an advanced class. Getting her up to level 10 as an axe fighter is incredibly easy. Just use an advanced seal and then second seal to sage. She'll be your best mage from then on.
Celine is one of the only units who can viably use the Levin sword. But the only time you need a Levin sword is vs Armored enemies, and you have armorslayer for that.
Flame Lance on the other hand, is super solid. It's the only Lance that's viable against armor.
Eh, any unit with good magic can reclass into a mage knight with swords if you want. Also on Maddening mode, armor slayers are garbage, the armored units have such high defense that you aren't doing much damage even with effective weaponry, you have to target their resistance. Also Levin sword is useful against other things that happen to have less resistance than defense anyway like Wyvern knights and having a 1-2 range option on a swordmaster who normally can't have one is useful for chain attacks even if they have low magic.
I found that armor slayers are terrible. At most they let my units chunk an enemy down. Even with forge. Levin Sword does the job better without taking a massive hit in return.
Jean turned out amazing for me! I gave him avoid skills from marth and class promoted to high priest. He dodges practically everything. His magic stats are surprisingly nice, like probably the highest out of all my characters. He hits like a truck and doubles. Then later game I handed him Lucina so he can do chain attack damage. Really solid
Jean is the most flexible unit in your army. Due to how his personal skill works, he can pretty much excell no matter what you make him. Swordmaster, Sage, General, you name it, Jean does it.
The problem on Maddening is the lower EXP gain and the very high Skirmish difficulty, making leveling up a trainee unit a complete slog. On Normal/Hard it doesn't take long for Jean to become one of your best units.
It's just that he starts in arguably one of the worst classes for his personal skill, though he's also one of the only characters who can actually make Martial Master work.
i would argue anna is only good because of the perk she got. I was starved for gold my whole playthrough on maddening didnt pick her though. kagetsu was S tier for me i paired him with eirika he would sweep entire armies on maddening and he basically soloed the last boss. Louis is the best diver with sigurd honestly, alfred fell off for me. Bro just said the lucina ring sucks oml, 90% chance to proc her shield. Pairing that with pannette who is initiall squishy af she can sweep a lot of units. It is also a amazing aoe shield so choke points allow this skill to really be appreciated. I abused this skill so much and saved louis from dieing to mages countless times. Pair alcryst with lyn and see how fast you change your perspective. he gets luna procs with astra storm ive sniped so many mages that would kill louis or fliers who were in a annoying spot. i paired diamant with ike and he was a solid tank like louis but could also tank mages and not get doubled. i Used framme with byleth for the amazing dance and would purposefully setup seadall with the 4 box dance. It made things 100x easier having 3 dances in 1 turn. Byleth is probably the best emblem ring solely because of the 4 person dance.
Anna's 50% Mag / 50% Skl / 50% Spd _character_ growths count for a lot if you can get her off the ground, it just depends if you feel she's worth the effort. I've had a lot of success with her.
In terms of Emblems, I feel as though the most broken ones are like... Corrin, Byleth, Lyn, Ike and situationally Lucina.
The DLC ones are pretty strong too, but Corrin has Draconic Hex, Dreadful Aura and creating fog terrain. Byleth has Goddess Dance. Lyn has clones, Speedtaker/Alacrity + Mulagir. Ike is just Ike. And Lucina can make the impossible possible because of Bonded Shield as you say, it's like Chain Guard on steroids. Dual Guard can even block ballistae.
Me: at chapter 23 still using Jean as my 3rd best unit "guess I'll go back in the bush then"
Bro Jean goes off. If you have the DLC the tiki skills make him absolutely cracked. Plus he’s just such a kind young man hahaha
@@Roonpuddle exactly, the moment I got Tiki I knew he was gonna be good in my party lul
I have Jean as his promoted class and he's unkillable.
Came here to say on chapter 18 my Jean is a monster as Martial Master.
i personally used anna as an axe user until like chapter 18 and she was very good, she one rounded a lot of enemies (i should say i'm playing on hard) and then i changed her into a hero and now i have her use the levin sword and micaiah ring and also the FEH sword if i need physical damage and she's quite good, only problem i have with her is that her defense sucks, she only has 10 defense at chapter 22
With Anna it wasn't so difficult to get her to lvl 10, using the master seal first then the second seal and reclassing her to Sage not mage, hence not much work required.
Plus her sage class is broken beyond wonders, also give her Tiki and she's literally earning money left and right
Diamant is my team's ace, slap that Ike ring on him, let him tank damage with Great Aether, and one-shot most units in the game. I don't think I can remove him from any of my teams moving forward so seeing him at C tier is maddening lol
Panette is easily S+++ tier. She obliterates everything. Bad match-up? Not for Panette. Boss? Let Panette take up one of those entire revival stone health bars by herself. Enemy 2 squares away? No worries, nuclear Panette throws a Tomahawk warhead directly onto foreheads. You can build her to crit everything, but you literally don't even need to. Panette is all powerful anyway. Enemy group tries to gank our all-seeing, all-powerful Panette? Just throw on Vantage and watch as Panette lays waste to the entire goddamn playing field before they even get a chance.
Anyway, you get the point. Panette is God, Panette is life.
i may have been RNG screwed because my level 7 promoted diamant had worst stats than base level goldmary in all stats except for magic
Super interested in a best emblem pairings vid - I've tried tons of pairings but have no idea what's optimal. I never thought of Lucina with Seadall 🤯
Hopefully I’ll have that out soon! Wanna make sure I’m properly informed on the game before I fully make that
@@JBRChannel for sure! I only found out today inherited skills on rings don’t apply to wearers, just sync skills. Really changed who I thought should wear what lol
@@calyxatlas give Panette Ike and watch her destroy everything.
Panette is a goddamn nuclear bomb
Just found your channel a little bit ago. Lowkey simping ngl lol. My new favorite Fire Emblem channel.
I can confirm jade as a wyvern knight is my best unit the axe pegagasus level give her speed and res when she becomes w. Knight she have the same amount of def/res and good speed. Give her Ike and she can tank the world.
Celine for me was amazing as i just dropped +5 Levin Sword and thats all she ever needed
Diamant is S for me because of Sol. It’s completely nuts for tanking in his advanced class. For he he just ranks forever and heals up any damage he might take. Only weakness is medium Res…..but I’m at chapter 22 and he has like 25 res so he can tank a hit.
Panette with Roy ring + wrath + vantage isnt a Dodge tank, it just a one shot tank
100% crit
Ngl, zelkov with the Lyn ring kills most things before the enemy can counter and the can get hit he usually dodges, kinda really good. Also my Goldman as a wyvern knight is pretty good, like top 5 of my units because of her good bulk with lucina ring on hard difficulty. I do believe with time basically every unit can be good
I invested a lot on Kagetsu. No one is talking about him and he’s insanely flexible. Best unit I have discovered by far.
lyn ring and he becomes invincible
For real, he dodges everything, double attacks, and with forged and engraved wo dao he has like 70% crit chance
No one's talking about him because he's obviously busted from the moment you get him. There's just not much interesting to talk about there. Put him in any physical class and he'll excel.
I thought anna was okay - maybe b tier, but definitely not c. with mag proficiency she can reclass at base level and she shines with a little investment, i was able to class upgrade her by chp 11
Anna is S tier. Maybe you can say A tier if you think the small bit of extra work.
That base is too low unless you grind. Citrinne has 15 magic with less investment and only a slightly lower magic growth.
@@FennelRPG 30 spd is lower than Anna but not that low. Its patachable and her dex growth is low but base holds up. He res also makes her an easy mage tank.
This is genuinely a cerified journalist moment.
Regarding Goldmary, I think she's a really good user of the Leif ring. She immediately can make use of the entire weapon triangle when you factor in Leif's Killer Axe, and unlike Lapis (the only other natural promotion into sword/lance Hero) she can take a hit. I actually replaced my Timerra with Goldmary since Diamant is my Ike user.
Lapis is great as an unkillable evade tank if you give her a +40 evade engraved sword. Can't ever take that sword off though lol.
Edit: Also, at least on Hard, Jean is absolutely insane as a martial master. Being able to level the "Villager" unit with a staff is pretty clutch, I am on Chapter 18 and my Jean hits most things for ~20 x4 damage, plus has staves and chain guard for utility. The way the villager passive works in this game is supposedly "rolling with advantage" from what I read, which would mean his growths are all effectively between 51 and 80 percent.
my jean didn't really have much strenght so i reclassed him into a mage, and now he's a sage with emblem byleth and destroys everything
I think Jean's passive doubles class specific growth rates, so he ends up being pretty good no matter what you use him as. I went with Royal Knight and by the end of the game on Maddening, he has the highest stat total out of all units I'm using.
He's not the strongest, but he's versatile (competent with both physical attacks and Flame Lance for magic - despite the weight - and staff usage). He is also decently bulky with both Def and Res. Too bad arts are nearly worthless on Maddening (tinks everywhere) but there are ways around it.
Literally I'm in chapter 15 and Anna, Jean and Cittrine are my best units in the game🤣
I ended up putting Lapis in the great knight class and let me tell you that lead me down a strange journey of watching majority of the enemies not even being able to damage her. I am currently on level 23 and her defense is 46 so she can indeed get a lot of defense if put into the right class.
Holy shit lmfao! 46?! That’s actually amazing. I have her as a cavalier right now so I’ll keep this in mind 😂
Yeah, in my run I got hard carried by Lapis and Yunaka. Both of them got blessed hard in my run.
Even in normal mode, Anna takes a lot of investment
you do know that anna gets strength and magic inverted when she changes to mage so saying she has 2 base magic is straight up wrong. also is alfred really good? he felt like abad unit when he came and also couldn't keep up
- Alfred not in bottom tier
- Kagetsu not in S
- Boucheron in the same tier as Louis and _Yunaka_
- Bunet in S?!
- Diamant in C?
- Jean??
- Zelkov???
- SEADALL????
What is this person thinking?
I'mma go ahead and flame you in the comments for the your anna opinion, her magic isn't what matters, it's her luck. maximize her personal skill and her decent magic growth by getting her into high priest ASAP, and watch her solo maps. now, I'm not gonna say the article has her in S tier for the right reasons, but it is absolutely where she belongs, at least below maddening difficulty where you can reliably use skirmishes to grind out some gold.
Let's be honest. If you are playing on Normal or Hard, every unit is S tier.
Okay, this is like the third time I've seen people say Alear is good. I'm playing on Maddening mode and he's absolutely dogshit. I'm on chapter 20 and he's easily my worst unit. He can't take a hit, he's not covert so he can't reliably dodge, his damage is overall quite low (Even though I always get +3 strength from push-ups), 1 range-locked because I'm not using reclassing, and contributes very little other than his personal skill. Most of the bonuses from dragon type aren't worth being his shitty sword-locked class (a lot of them are just a worse version of what another class type gets), at least swordmasters can chain attack which is amazing especially with dual assist. I wonder if most people give his statboosters because he's the main character and then think he's good because they forgot how much they invested in him. He was solid in the early game but hasn't mattered at all ever since chapter 11.
Chloe is the only character I agree with being in S.
Alear is an S support unit, combat wise they kinda okay.
bunet actually has horrible stats for his level/join time, it's just that great knight has pretty great bases
I’m my game, Diamont is my best character (even better than Alear). He can single handedly kill 5 enemies with counters and dodging.
*Stares at my Anna Tiki Bezerker who Stomped everything*
Idk I agree with her at S
How could they put alcryst in b tier. He became a crit machine once Lynn was added. He soloed zephia in chapter 17
I really enjoyed this video
I beat hard mode and I'm on chapter 8 of my maddening run. I disagree slightly with the celine in B tier argument. I think shes an A tier unit beause she is the only mage that one rounds consistently before all the rings are lost. Canne's magic is too low and Citrine's joins with 10 base speed so she will only one round armor knights. Celine has similar speed to clanne and even though she has a lot less magic than citrine she still has enough to one round(especially with Bolganone). After chapter 10 she falls off a bit but I still think shes serviceable
Céline has a strong early game but is destined for the bench later on unless you use her as Dire Thunder / staffbot imo. Shame because I do like her, and she at least does better than her brother.
@@Harkz0r yeah she is much worse on maddening mode. Now that I’m on chapter 20 she barely does any chip damage to anything that isn’t an armor knight. I could still see her in A tier for her great early game because there are some units in this game that don’t even have that but I’m settling on B tier for now
Chloe as an griffin knight is extremely good for me for me she is an easy s class. Ivy also extremely strong imo Alear kinda falls of for me a bit
I'm a big fan of making mage knights dodge tanks so I have Lynn on Clanne and my boy cannot be touched
What about jeans growth ability tho
Damn so many lists have Alfred at the bottom saying he's ass but you have him up top
I think he’s well worth using, I find him running up and one shotting things, definitely have to keep giving him attention to stay good
Not even a couple minutes in and gotta come here. Anna isn't S but definitely A tier. Her passive may seem meh but gold is a precious resource in this game, especially in Maddening. Also, sure her early game is a little weaker because you have to change her to magic, but her late game is busted. Easily the strongest magic use. And late game matters a lot. Chloe is 100% S tier. Easily one of the best units. Fogado comes in as the strongest bow user in Maddening in the first playthrough since stats are set. Also, Maddening Set Growths and Maddening Random Growths are 2 very different tier lists. This list definitely has Hard or Maddening Set Growths in mind. Though there are a few questionable placements. I don't like Dancers in FE but they are always S tier.
I think this was a shit list.
Panette is easily an S tier unit. I feel that the author of that tier list never really botherd with crit mechanics. The high risk high reward effect.
She only needs Vantage and she just wrecks.. Best unit for me aside from Alear in my maddening run.
Diamant as you said is easily one of the best combat units availlable.
He is tanky, speedy and I think that S in Swords and A in axes is the best weapon combination availlable in the whole game.
You can give him the Brave Axe and the later swords like Georgis and Caladog, he is just amazing.
The only unit I mostly agreed on was Kagetsu on B.
He is one heck of an unit, but the game is actually the reason why he isnt A or S tier even.
As Alear and Diamant are already your swordy guys and should not be replaced at all.
And to me he truely shinies when Marth is finally back which is kinda late game. So due a bit competition with the main char and having not the right emblem availlable for him.. makes him a solid and strong B tier unit. A even..
I wanna know what you think about panette
I like her bases and she joins at a good time, I want to try her out a bit more but she seems like a fun vantage/wrath user
@@JBRChannel in my run, she was INSANE with ike, her base attack is wild and her crit rate ended up being around 60% on most axes too
Hard disagree on Anna because of the DLC. She is unstoppable gold printer with the Tiki. Her only downside is you have spend 3-4 chapters baby sitting her but after that she takes off and will easily be your best unit.
What is the site he is using to see like everything about a character. I just beat the game on hard and I want to try maddening and I think it would really help making my team comp, Thanks
This is the website I used game8.co/games/Fire-Emblem-Engage
Serenes Forest is also good but they’re behind on Info at the moment
@@JBRChannel thanks so much!
Alfred has been absolute garbage for me. I took Sigurds ring from him and gave it to Louis and never looked back. Louis is a beast
In my opinion Alfred stood out as the worst unit for me, I couldn’t find a niche for him. He was way too slow and could not take a hit or deal significant damage.
Man really put boucheron above seadall
Hey thanks yes pls. Witch ring for witch hero that i hope for
I think Diamant is dragged down by a Dex cap of 23.
Alcryst and Louis are hard carrying my maddening run.
MC isn’t S tier for me, basically a buff bot at this point. Alfred fell off in the midgame for me with no rings.
Also Kagetsu and ivy do mega damage and Zelkov is a crazy good dodge tank. Shame AI ignores him when they can’t hit him 😢
So basically all the lower tier units are doing really well for me
Liking to watch later
The Lucina Ring is very great literally broken. Her Skill to guard 4 units all at once with 100% proc rate on cavalry and 90% on other units make it one of the best rush in and tank on maddening mode. Anyways this article is awful in rankings.
Amber isn't even on this list lmao. On maddening he oneshots almost all boss HP bars with Engage attacks, even late game with Longbow/Thunder/Thoron Draconic Hex support.
27:10 the lucina ring is legit the best one in the game
Nah but the only thing I do want to agree is that seadoll is not that good.
Also don’t agree with you about Chloe , I do agree she belongs in S tier
Bunet was the most baffling
Bunet was God tier in my run, I know he's not even that good- but I guess I got lucky lmfao
Good bases, only problem seems to be speed but that could be fixed
WARNING:
36:32 Nerd Rage
Was Amber that forgettable?
There’s a couple missing units on this list funnily enough. I believe Vander and the last unit aren’t there either.
Didn’t even notice vander lol I quit using him early on, I am kinda building Amber and I guess got lucky on his stats, way better than Alfred
Anna is S tier for farming gold :)
The Vander placement goes crazy
frrrr, same with Amber and Clanne
They forgot Citrinne too
Tier list is pointless, cuz tbf tho while there have been some dog shit choices for the characters in engage like making etie an archer, I think even the worst characters can be reworked to not suck. Etie is a mess and it's torture to fix it because of her low hp at the start cuz IS in their infinite wisdom decided the unit with a personal skill that wants her to heal should be the one that's an archer it makes no sense. And hell even from a story perspective Etie's class makes zero sense considering she talks about muscles all the time, she would of been axe fighter or axe flier. Now just because I am complaining about etie's starter class doesn't mean she's actually a bad unit, it takes alot of work but you can fix it later reclassing her and making her more tanky.
I remember seeing this and instantly leaving. Probably written by AI.
Anna C tier Chloe B tier and your making fun of the list 😂
Dancers being good is purely subjective I would personally say no dancer is good although I javent got the one in this game yet
@@FennelRPG That's like saying they're less good in 3H because Stride Gambit exists. Just use both.
@@MH_Zard That's like saying they're less good in 3H because the Dance of the Goddess gambit exists. Use both
Dancers used properly are a free extra turn for your best unit for the current situation. They're like a Ditto, only better because you can move further and do more than you normally can. IMO, under no circumstances are dancers bad unless the players are also bad.
And you can't say that Emblem Byleth makes dancers less necessary because you only get one of those per engage. And it's not as though you can't include Seadall in the goddess dance, so he can dance twice in the turn.
Combine this with using the 3H emblem engage attack next to Byleth, and also using the Raging Storm combat art and you can pull off some real shenanigans. Have turned the tide of battles on Maddening killing multiple health bars of bosses just due to all the extra turns.
how are you not gonna pronouce chloé like "klo-AYE"
Man, imagine ranking dancers as better than C tier, JBR you are good at fire emblem, but you should stop using dancers, they do no damage and can't fight, they suck
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THEY'RE EVEN BETTER IN THIS GAME AHHHHH
OH REALLY, I'm still at chapter 5 xD So I have no idea to be fair
Dancers are one of the best units in the game 💀
They’re always really good because even when they have sucked with attacking, their strength lies in basically giving your strong units extra attacks. They indirectly deal damage by letting other people attack again, so if you have a busted unit, the dancer can let them kill twice as many enemies, it’s so great. Def would recommend giving him a try when you get him
Why field mid/bad unit when my dancer can simply allow me to use better units more, or have more free movements around the map? Dancers are amazing lol.
the list is flat out horse s h i t LMAO
There are a bunch of C tier characters that are objectively good
Diamant is an absolute beast
Jade is also incredibly good
Jean has potential (i think is called expertise but is basically potential)
Seadall is a dancer, and you were spot on about dancers being fantastic in all games EVEN WHEN they don't have the ability to fight which seadall has so not only is seadall a dancer but is also one of the better versions of a dancer.
Framme for me was also fantastic but she was rolling with the Tiki ring so I cant' say for sure she's good or if Tiki ring made her good.
Also you are spot on about Anna. Sure her magic growth is fine but for her to be good u'd need to grind which is still sort of possible in maddening and easily doable in lower difficulties but otherwise she's not even remotely close to S tier. Furthermore if you grind to make anna good there's no way Mauvier is good as well because if you grind for anna u gonna have lots of characters that are also heavily powered up which will make Mauvier a chump by the time he joins
Regarding Anna even if you make anna a Sage at level 10 she will still take a while to get going she will get if im not mistaking 4-5 magic from sage promotion + another 2-3 magic from the 5 levels needed to reach level 10 for promotion so she'd be somewhere around 10 magic at level 1 sage. with 80% magic growth that you have as sage she should get 16 magic points on average in 20 levels so at level 20 sage she'd be at 26 magic
To put things in perspective why 26 magic is not that special for a unit with 80% growth in that stat let's compare louis. My louis at level 10 general had 38-40 defense (i dont' remember exactly) and this was with me making the mistake of leveling Louis as armor knight all the way to 20 before reclassing to general.
I disagree with you heavily tho on the goldmary stance. On my first playthrough (the hard playthrough) i grinded quite a bit and she still easily found a way into the team but you aren't wrong about Lapis she's just a worse version of goldmary and is not remotely comparable to Goldmary. I did use Lapis cuz I liked her cute character design but she's far from a good unit
Also big props for mentioned how busted you can combo using byleth + dancer making your best unit act up to 4 times in the same turn
The only thing that makes me insanely mad about Seadall is that is a male dancer WTF who the fk was the cretin who decided male dancer is a good idea.